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| hexahive | Hello ppl :) I need an advice, especially if there's someone having experience with fwknop-server... I'm getting an error "[*] Access file: 'access.conf' was not found." ... I've checked that the file exists in /etc/fwknop, also tried to chmod it to 777 and chgroup it to my username instead of root, but nothing of those usual things help... Any ideas ? | 03:40 |
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| andol | hexahive: I have no experience with fwknop-server, but as a general approach I would try running it using strace, and see which access.conf paths are tried. | 03:55 |
| sarnold | I hadn't noticed that he rejoined here before replying in another channel... if my hunch is correct he ought to be on his way soon :) | 03:56 |
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| sarnold | (my suggestion: give the full pathname in the configuration file, based on the logging messages given here http://sources.debian.net/src/fwknop/2.6.0-2.2/server/access.c/#L1018 ) | 03:56 |
| hexahive | sorry for generating confusion ;) | 03:57 |
| hexahive | sarnold: you were absolutely right, when i run it with "sudo fwknopd" while in /etc/fwknopd, it works | 04:01 |
| sarnold | \o/ | 04:02 |
| sarnold | bonus points to the author for giving decent error messages :) that's not always the case | 04:02 |
| sarnold | (I went looking in fact expecting it to be terrible.) | 04:02 |
| hexahive | yep, i've noticed he made the code give different messages whether the file exists or the permissions aren't right, which is cool :) | 04:03 |
| DanDreamPipe | So I'm trying to redirect defunctsite.com/path/file.html or defunctsite.com/path to newsite.com/path/subpath/file.html while using DNS | 05:22 |
| DanDreamPipe | But DNS does not support file paths | 05:22 |
| DanDreamPipe | What do, what are my options here | 05:22 |
| DanDreamPipe | I've been trying to figure this out for many hours | 05:24 |
| ChibaPet | DanDreamPipe: You can't do it with DNS. You need your load balancer or web server or other intermediary to do that translation. | 05:33 |
| DanDreamPipe | I'm willing to set such servers up, but by setting said devices DNS settings to my server will the queries to defunctsite.com/path/etc still resolve to newsite/etc/? | 05:48 |
| DanDreamPipe | And queries to undefined.com go to google DNS | 05:50 |
| ChibaPet | With no offense intended, I think the sort of advice you need would best be supplied by a local expert - local professional services or something. You're confusing a couple concepts that could end up making your life difficult if you don't get them right. | 05:54 |
| jvwjgames | Hello | 06:00 |
| jvwjgames | I am wondering if there is a way that if a demon | 06:00 |
| jvwjgames | *could if it receives certain data that all programs could stop except for Apache and another program | 06:02 |
| jvwjgames | Is that possible? | 06:02 |
| jvwjgames | Anyone? | 06:04 |
| jvwjgames | I need to know if this is possible | 06:05 |
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| FuriousGeorge | im running openvpn and trying to ping server subnet from client (i can ping the server itself) | 09:59 |
| FuriousGeorge | in tcpdump i see pings reach the server and seem to die there | 09:59 |
| FuriousGeorge | i expected them to be routed to the computer with the matching destination which is on the same subnet, | 09:59 |
| FuriousGeorge | if i go to the destination computer and listen for pings on eth0 i see none, but if i try to ping the source computer i can. i can ping any computer on the subnet behind it for that matter | 10:00 |
| FuriousGeorge | i made sure ip forwarding was enabled on the server, and that iptables/firewalld was not even installed | 10:00 |
| FuriousGeorge | im at a loss at this point | 10:00 |
| lordievader | Still sounds like a firewall, tcpdump sits before the firewall. | 10:18 |
| caribou | nacc: jgrimm asked me to sponsor the logwatch merge | 12:15 |
| caribou | nacc: oh, looks like kirkland already sponsored it | 12:18 |
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| devster31 | hi, I have multiple ssh servers in a LAN, but I want to access them from outside the network and the best option seems a VPN (correct me if I'm wrong), is there a tutorial that I can follow to set up openVPN so that only traffic towards those hosts is passed through the VPN and all the internet traffic isn't? | 12:58 |
| caribou | jgrimm: is it still useful to merge the latest clamav bits now that we're so close to release ? | 13:05 |
| caribou | jgrimm: debian has a new 0.99-1 as of a march 11th | 13:05 |
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| beisner | jamespage, ddellav - fyi, pushed neutron 2014.1.5-0ubuntu4~cloud0 from proposed to icehouse-updates in uca re: bug 1393391 | 13:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1393391 in neutron "neutron-openvswitch-agent stuck on no queue 'q-agent-notifier-port-update_fanout.." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393391 | 13:37 |
| beisner | jamespage, ddellav - also, promoted qemu 2.2+dfsg-5expubuntu9.7~cloud2 from kilo-proposed to kilo-updates in uca re: bug 1546445 | 13:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1546445 in qemu (Ubuntu Wily) "support vhost user without specifying vhostforce" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1546445 | 13:42 |
| BlackDex | hello there.. I have a dell server and installed ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS on it. When i type `dmesg` the console is very very slow with the output. How can i speed this up? | 13:45 |
| younder | Anyone have any experience with setting up a bind9 (DNS) server? My server name is pandora and my domain name the same. A nslookup on pandora fails on the master node while the 10 cluster nodes it succeeds. The resolv suceeds on all. What is the problem? | 13:45 |
| younder | BlackDex, It is fine on mine ( a Dell PowerEdge T110 II) | 13:47 |
| younder | mongodb has a powerful diagnostic util that I tried earlier today. | 13:48 |
| BlackDex | younder: i have an dell poweredge R430 | 13:48 |
| younder | It basically dumps all the diagnostic data of your system. It's up to you to make sense of it though | 13:53 |
| younder | I could make a dump of it into pastebin if you like | 13:54 |
| jgrimm | caribou, skip it | 13:58 |
| caribou | jgrimm: ok! | 13:59 |
| jgrimm | thanks sir! | 13:59 |
| younder | Altso I have a problem with a cluster node L1 which can't access apt-get-ng while all the other nine nodes can. Seems to be in the network setup, but I can't find it. Any suggestions? | 14:01 |
| younder | They have identical (via ansible) setups | 14:04 |
| younder | But originally they were set up one by one. and L1 seemed to have internet connectivity while the other nodes did not. To mak it update i change /etc/resolv.con etc | 14:05 |
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| designbybeck | I'm trying to learn more about the cloudimg setups. I am using the vhd here: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/wily/current/ | 14:51 |
| designbybeck | the vhd boots, but I'm not sure what the username and password are? | 14:51 |
| younder | You need werewulf.. | 14:52 |
| designbybeck | this is wily younder is that what you mean? | 14:53 |
| younder | http://warewulf.lbl.gov/trac | 14:54 |
| designbybeck | HHHmmmm | 14:54 |
| younder | is what I mena a cluster manager which takes old prootocols like boot and works by identically configuring all nodes. | 14:55 |
| younder | I don't use it in my cluster but it gets good reviews on HPC | 14:57 |
| crazybluek | just wonder what to do... firewall/gateway need some implementation of a few lines with 6to4 and 6in4 Tunnels in shorewall or/else remove shorewall and install ufw instead... what are best thing to do ? | 14:58 |
| designbybeck | I was just trying to follow some of these guides for settings up openstack in a VM to play with: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-vm.html | 14:58 |
| younder | Anyhow Admin magasin and HPC magazine will better see you throght than a random question on ubuntu srever which is for more spesicic ubuntu related questions | 14:58 |
| designbybeck | I figured it was an Ubuntu CloudImg build on UbuntuServer so I thought this group might know | 15:00 |
| younder | crazybluek, have you tried ufw (uncomplicated firewall) | 15:00 |
| younder | There is a book on IPTABLS I can recommend called 'linux firewalls' by michael rash but i reccomend UFW for starters. It is build on to of IPTABLES anyhow so co can eassily use hat insted | 15:02 |
| jrwren | does ufw have ipv6 and 6to4 and 6in4 support? | 15:04 |
| younder | There is a book on IPTABLES I can recommend called 'linux firewalls' by Michael Rash but recommend UFW for starters. It is build on to of IPTABLES anyhow so co can easily use that | 15:04 |
| younder | jrwren, yes | 15:04 |
| crazybluek | younder never been into ufw | 15:04 |
| younder | I use it every day | 15:04 |
| younder | But not for ipv6 | 15:05 |
| younder | It's the 6to4 and 6in4 I wonder about. | 15:05 |
| younder | Dangerous to combine anyhow | 15:06 |
| younder | you get the ip6 over ip4 attacks. Blow your firewall sky high to combine them | 15:08 |
| younder | As usual read a book about it but not implemented it yet. O'reilly IPV6 | 15:11 |
| jrwren | what are these attacks? | 15:12 |
| younder | http://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-and-threats/windows-ipv4-networks-vulnerable-to-ipv6-attack/d/d-id/1097153? | 15:15 |
| younder | http://www.rmv6tf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/5-IPv6-Attacks-and-Countermeasures-v1.2.pdf | 15:16 |
| younder | Particularly you network if opened to IPV6 from he firewall is open to scan. | 15:23 |
| younder | Even if yo have IPV4 internally they also have IPV6 addresses. | 15:24 |
| jrwren | looks like scare tactics to sell firewalls ;] | 15:30 |
| younder | jrwren, No just my own fear | 15:42 |
| jrwren | younder: I classic stateful connections only firewall works quite well *shrug* | 15:43 |
| younder | I like IPTABLES too :) | 15:45 |
| jrwren | :] Me too | 15:45 |
| teward | server team meeting today? | 15:58 |
| jgrimm | teward, yep | 16:00 |
| younder | what do you have to say about port 53 and the DNS.? | 16:25 |
| younder | Is it all it is? I seem to believe there are more prots. | 16:26 |
| younder | ports | 16:26 |
| patdk-wk | heh? | 16:26 |
| patdk-wk | dns uses udp port 53 and tcp port 53 | 16:26 |
| patdk-wk | it uses nothing else | 16:26 |
| patdk-wk | unless you are not talking about dns, but talking about mdns, then it uses port 5353 | 16:27 |
| younder | I use ufw allow 53 | 16:27 |
| younder | You are wrong | 16:27 |
| * ogra_ has never seen anything else but udp/tcp 53 being used for DNS | 16:31 | |
| jrwren | no, you are wrong ;] | 16:32 |
| jrwren | ^ that is my way of saying, "how about instead of saying, 'you are wrong', you show facts." | 16:33 |
| younder | ports for rndc | 16:33 |
| patdk-wk | I would love to see some facts that show I'm wrong | 16:33 |
| patdk-wk | rndc != dns | 16:33 |
| jrwren | rndc isn't dns. | 16:33 |
| patdk-wk | hell, what even is rndc | 16:33 |
| jrwren | AFAIK DNS servers that aren't ISC BIND do not do rndc. | 16:33 |
| younder | Port 953 | 16:33 |
| jrwren | patdk-wk: rndc is an ISC BIND9 management protocol | 16:34 |
| maswan | patdk-wk: rndc is bind's remode daemon control protocol | 16:34 |
| patdk-wk | ya, not dns | 16:34 |
| jrwren | well, ISC BIND, not just bind9 | 16:34 |
| younder | no it is used to magege a BIND9 DND server though | 16:34 |
| patdk-wk | I haven't used bind since well, 2004? | 16:34 |
| maswan | which you might like to have for a "dns server" in general, but you might also want to have ssh for the same reasons. Doens't make it dns. | 16:34 |
| jrwren | yes, words are important. bind isn't dns, bind is A dns server. | 16:35 |
| younder | and so port 953 is also a port bind9 CAN listen to | 16:35 |
| patdk-wk | one should not expose ports that one does not need | 16:35 |
| younder | absoutely | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | (and one should not blame others of being wrong if one didnt explain the actual problem correctly at all) | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:40 |
| patdk-wk | ogra_, it's ok, I'm wrong, wife tells me all the time | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | lol :) | 16:41 |
| jrwren | its ok, its only human to use a close but inacurrate word and assume others know what you mean. My wife does it all the time, as do I. ;] | 16:42 |
| younder | anyhow if you are uing a bind9 server as am I guard port 953 ;) | 16:42 |
| jrwren | you are blocking individual ports? | 16:42 |
| patdk-wk | block all ports | 16:42 |
| jrwren | is there a reason you cannot block all and open what you want? | 16:42 |
| patdk-wk | only unblock a few | 16:42 |
| patdk-wk | otherwise anyone *user* account can run stuff on the server | 16:43 |
| patdk-wk | not good | 16:43 |
| younder | I use ufw It bocs all pots unless i explicitly open them | 16:43 |
| younder | I use ufw It blocs all ports unless i explicitly open them | 16:43 |
| GeekDude | I installed a new 14.04.4 box yesterday and chose 'no' when asked if I wanted to automatically update/important update. If I wanted to change that, would 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades' be the correct way to go about that? Does it produce the same results as picking yes during installation, or does it just accomplish the same thing by different means? | 16:44 |
| younder | but you mileage may vary. I alto like going straight to the metal and using iptables | 16:45 |
| younder | GeekDude, A simple "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y " will do that | 16:46 |
| GeekDude | younder: I want it to be automatic, and only important/security updates though | 16:47 |
| younder | The -y is king in a cluster | 16:47 |
| younder | GeekDude, the you don't want upgrade | 16:47 |
| younder | GeekDude, anyhow your system should do that once a week. | 16:48 |
| younder | when you install it | 16:48 |
| jaywink | hey all. Any idea what could cause when running a python script that does "os.system('service foobar restart')" in root terminal, everything works, but the same script in root crontab gives 'unrecognized service'? The upstart conf file is in /etc/init and as said, service works normally but not via root | 16:48 |
| younder | jaywink, permissions | 16:49 |
| jaywink | younder, even if running via root crontab? | 16:49 |
| GeekDude | younder: The thing is, during install I explicitly disabled that option. I am now wishing I had picked it. | 16:49 |
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| patdk-wk | service isn't in bath :) | 16:49 |
| patdk-wk | path | 16:49 |
| jaywink | patdk-wk, tried also full path to /usr/sbin/service - and it is service which says "unrecognized" ;) | 16:50 |
| jrwren | jaywink: 'unrecognized service' or 'unrecognized command service'? Sounds like /sbin is not in the path. | 16:50 |
| younder | GeekDude, sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low unattended-upgrades | 16:51 |
| younder | should do it | 16:51 |
| jaywink | jrwren, definitely service command is found, tried full path | 16:51 |
| jrwren | jaywink: i cannot imagine what is wrong. does using invoke-rc.d or initctl directly work? | 16:54 |
| younder | dkpg-reconfigure is overall underrated | 16:54 |
| jaywink | jrwren, yes. this is the script (sorry, jinja template, vars are replaced correctly and script works otherwise) - https://github.com/jaywink/ansible-diaspora/blob/master/templates/restart_on_memory_capped.py | 16:55 |
| younder | jaywink, have you checked premissions | 16:55 |
| younder | ? | 16:55 |
| jaywink | something python + cron session related maybe... since same os.system in root shell works | 16:55 |
| younder | sudo chown root <program> | 16:56 |
| jrwren | jaywink: cron's environment is often different from root shell environment | 16:56 |
| jaywink | younder, it's running in root crontab, how could it be permissions sorry? the script executes, only error is the os.system call | 16:56 |
| lordievader | jaywink: Does 'initctl list' list the service you are trying to control if that command is ran from the crontab? | 16:56 |
| GeekDude | younder: what is the significance of 'priority=low'? | 16:57 |
| younder | jaywink, correct me if I a wrong but isn't hat just python for a shell command? | 16:58 |
| younder | GeekDude, one a week vs one a day | 16:58 |
| lordievader | GeekDude: The man page reads that the priority setting sets the minimum priority level of questions asked, see 'man dpkg-reconfigure'. | 17:01 |
| GeekDude | lordievader: I did check that page, but I have no clue what that means | 17:01 |
| lordievader | It seems that questions dpkg might pose are put in different priority classes. The default is low, so setting it to low can be ommited. | 17:02 |
| jaywink | lordievader, finally got cron to output :P yes, initctl list executed from root crontab does contain the service .. sigh... I made a python script for expansion flexibility, seems that is biting back now | 17:03 |
| lordievader | jaywink: Upstart being as strange as it is, it might work with initctl instead of 'service'. I had it before that service didn't know a particular service while initctl did. | 17:04 |
| younder | jaywink, can't you use a shellbang #/path/python | 17:04 |
| younder | nad no py | 17:05 |
| younder | and no. py | 17:05 |
| younder | WELL THEN IT WILL WORK!!! ;) | 17:06 |
| lordievader | younder: His problem has nothing to do with how the interpreter is called. | 17:07 |
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| younder | lordievader, I know | 17:08 |
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| younder | lordievader, It's just a feeling I get sometimes.. This SHOULD work and then NOT | 17:09 |
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| jaywink | lordievader, awesome, initctl totally worked :) thanks! | 17:21 |
| lordievader | jaywink: Ah, good to hear ;) | 17:21 |
| younder | so you are moving to systend finally! | 17:22 |
| younder | systemd | 17:23 |
| younder | wonderful inprovement over init | 17:23 |
| jaywink | yeah but on trusty on this server | 17:23 |
| younder | I am relly looking forward ti 16.06 in fact I have a alpha in a VM right now | 17:24 |
| younder | 16.04 | 17:24 |
| lordievader | The beta of Xenial is already released ;) | 17:25 |
| younder | enoght words read https://wiki.debian.org/systemd | 17:26 |
| jrwren | both upstart and systemd are excellent IMO. | 17:32 |
| jaywink | compared to initv scripts yeah... :P | 17:33 |
| younder | now we have something except aptitude to work on | 17:34 |
| arcsky | hey there is differnt keyboard layout in my shell how can i switch back? i have only ssh access. | 17:49 |
| RoyK | arcsky: keyboard layout is a local thing, meaning the ssh client reads through the client's OS - it doesn't matter what sort of layout the server's using | 17:51 |
| arcsky | i have used this putty windows client to connect ot my ubuntu machine for years and now it has switched.. | 17:53 |
| younder | arsky what is putty windows? | 18:23 |
| teward | younder: putty windows client - i.e. PuTTY SSH client for Windows | 18:23 |
| younder | Iv'eused ssh for years. | 18:23 |
| teward | arcsky: "now it has siwtched" <-- this is fairly vague, so it's unclear what exactly you're asking | 18:23 |
| younder | OOH. yes. I remeber them now | 18:23 |
| teward | arcsky: the SSH client can sometimes 'override' the key mapping in use; but so can the Server | 18:24 |
| younder | So you wans an encryped tynnel | 18:24 |
| younder | tunnel? | 18:24 |
| teward | younder: no, that's not his issue. | 18:24 |
| younder | lol ok | 18:24 |
| teward | RoyK: i noticed an odd instance in some qemu-run VMs of Ubuntu where the SSH client's keymapping isn't honored | 18:24 |
| teward | rare, but odd | 18:24 |
| sarnold | back in the day we used to spend forever trying to get the backspace key to work reliably everywhere. good times. | 18:25 |
| teward | heheh | 18:25 |
| teward | sarnold: i think i heard horror stories of those days xD | 18:25 |
| younder | I use quemy too mostly for the pi's | 18:25 |
| younder | so the por bastards on a doze. What can we do to help him? | 18:26 |
| sarnold | we can help him better formulate problem descriptions | 18:26 |
| younder | You havent considered .. no | 18:27 |
| younder | so you don't wnat the whole linux hell thing just the 'telnet'? | 18:28 |
| younder | hell = RHELL = shell | 18:28 |
| younder | The robot deamonds have taken over so much. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | what do you mean^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?sarnold: what do you mean? | 18:30 |
| sarnold | jrwren: lol | 18:30 |
| younder | Imagine a elf atabbing a dwark. Or a child killing a parent after being forked mind you, to become a deamond. Now thts just unix | 18:31 |
| Pici | younder: Er, can we keep these random comments to a minimum please? | 18:31 |
| Pici | younder: If you're looking for a chat channel there is #ubuntu-offtopic, otherwise these channels are for support unless otherwise specified.. | 18:32 |
| RoyK | sarnold: stty erase ^H # ;) | 18:32 |
| sarnold | RoyK: heh if only it had been that easy.. :) | 18:33 |
| RoyK | sarnold: some old unix wiz taught me back then ;) | 18:40 |
| sarnold | RoyK: the trick was getting all layers involved to agree that ^H is the One True Backspace | 18:41 |
| younder | what? | 18:42 |
| jcastro | jgrimm: got a sec? Our team needs help getting an FFe for Xenial for charm-tools | 18:42 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/charm-tools/+bug/1546776 | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1546776 in charm-tools (Ubuntu) "[FFe] charm-tools 2.0" [Undecided,Triaged] | 18:42 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1545913 | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1545913 in juju-core (Ubuntu) "[FFe] juju-core 2.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:42 |
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| rsevero | Hi. I have a server whose network interfaces were named through a /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file. My really strange problem is that now that I removed my 70-persistent-net.rules file and reboot, the interfaces I keeping the names I invented. Why? How can I make it get the automatic names again? | 19:03 |
| rsevero | the interfaces are keeping the names I invented | 19:04 |
| nacc | rsevero: just removing that file doesn't regenerate the initrds | 19:05 |
| younder | Have you flushed the DNS cache | 19:05 |
| rsevero | nacc: I don't kow this file nor how to regenerate it. How can I do it? | 19:06 |
| sarnold | nacc: ooo | 19:07 |
| rsevero | younder: Why DNS caches would have any influence on the naming my network interfaces are named by the kernel? | 19:07 |
| younder | rsevero, actulaly the arp cache | 19:07 |
| nacc | rsevero: I believe it is `update-initramfs -u -k all`, iirc | 19:07 |
| nacc | sarnold: was that "good guess, nacc"? Or "you're wrong, nacc"? :) | 19:08 |
| sarnold | nacc: "good guess nacc" :D | 19:08 |
| sarnold | something I wouldn't have considered and yet once I hear it, seems plausible enough :) | 19:09 |
| nacc | sarnold: whew | 19:10 |
| rsevero | nacc: It seems you are right nacc. Having most of my experience on Gentoo, I would never have thought about regenerating initramfs to apply network interface name changes. Am I correct in understanding that every time I edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I have to regenerate initramfs? | 19:13 |
| patdk-wk | you shouldn't ever have to, no | 19:15 |
| nacc | rsevero: right, the issue is those rules get copied into the initrd, iirc | 19:15 |
| patdk-wk | oh? | 19:15 |
| nacc | i might be wrong, but i recall doing that in the past | 19:15 |
| patdk-wk | something change with that lately? | 19:15 |
| patdk-wk | or is that a requirement due to the biosdev... package? | 19:16 |
| rsevero | nacc: Ok, thanks. | 19:17 |
| nacc | i don't have it in front of me right now, but i think the files are copied into the initrd during update/creation | 19:17 |
| nacc | patdk-wk: --^ | 19:17 |
| nacc | patdk-wk: presuming that's the case, they would get out of sync if you locally modify them and don't regenerate the initrd(s) | 19:18 |
| rsevero | On a completely unrelated issue: how can I fix a computer that starts to show "error: invalid video mode specification 'text'. Booting in blind mode" just after initial Grub screen after it got hard reseted? | 19:18 |
| rsevero | And never completes the boot process? | 19:19 |
| nacc | rsevero: can you provide the kernel cmdline? should be viewable in grub too | 19:20 |
| rsevero | linux /vmlinuz-4.2.0-35-generic.efi.signed root=/dev/mapper/vg-root ro | 19:21 |
| rsevero | nacc: Is this the line you want? | 19:21 |
| nacc | rsevero: yeah | 19:23 |
| nacc | rsevero: hrm, seems that message is from grub itself | 19:23 |
| nacc | rsevero: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2013-01/msg00016.html | 19:23 |
| rsevero | nacc: Yes. I think so. | 19:23 |
| nacc | rsevero: not sure, sorry | 19:24 |
| rsevero | nacc: I had already seem that page. Thanks anyway. Will try my luck on grub channel ;) | 19:29 |
| nacc | rsevero: yeah that's probably more likely to succeed, sorry! | 19:30 |
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| randymarsh9 | hello | 20:13 |
| randymarsh9 | ntop is a network display tool as well as web server? | 20:16 |
| nacc | randymarsh9: yes, per it's description, i think it has an embedded web server | 20:18 |
| DirtyCajun | this is why i love linux. why Raid 0 when you can juust keep them seperate and symlink. | 20:32 |
| patdk-wk | you can do that on windows too | 20:33 |
| patdk-wk | but simlink doesn't increase the speed of a single file | 20:33 |
| patdk-wk | or a database | 20:34 |
| bekks | Or anything else ;) | 20:34 |
| DirtyCajun | but it decreses total data falure when 1 drive fails in a raid 0 | 20:36 |
| bekks | thats why you use RAID 1 :P | 20:37 |
| DirtyCajun | you are losing space. | 20:37 |
| Deeps | DirtyCajun: 'why raid0 when you can do something that doesn't offer the benefits of raid0' 'because of the benefits of raid0' 'but then you get the drawbacks too' well, yeah. | 20:37 |
| DirtyCajun | the only benefit i know of raid 0 is speed. wrong? | 20:38 |
| Deeps | no | 20:38 |
| Deeps | but if speed matters, then it's a significant benefit | 20:38 |
| maswan | well, space too | 20:38 |
| DirtyCajun | i cant count the number of people i know that raid 0 NOT for speed but for a "single large disk so they dont have to split files" | 20:39 |
| Deeps | just because you know a lot of people who make poor choices for their requirements doesn't make the technology bad | 20:39 |
| DirtyCajun | this is being misconstrued. lord. s/why raid 0/why raid 0 for space consolidation/ | 20:40 |
| Deeps | ('a lot' may be inaccurate, i dont know how high you can count) | 20:40 |
| randymarsh9 | anybody know what nprobe is and how it relates to ntop? | 20:41 |
| randymarsh9 | is it a plugin or standalone application? | 20:41 |
| Deeps | looks like a netflow collector | 20:42 |
| Deeps | similar to nfdump i guess | 20:43 |
| Deeps | ah no, looks like it has flow manipulation capabilities as well | 20:44 |
| gpiccoli | Hello, sorry to bother you. I tried to joing #ubuntu-cloud, but it "redirected" here, so I believe this is the channel for cloud questions, right? | 20:48 |
| Pici | yep | 20:49 |
| gpiccoli | I wanna boot a x86 cloud image using qemu in another arch. The problem: | 20:49 |
| gpiccoli | I boot the image, it works but end up giving lots of n/w problem, related to cloud-init | 20:49 |
| gpiccoli | is there a way to disable cloud-init and boot directly to terminal, as usual? | 20:50 |
| gpiccoli | the error messages are like "request error [(<urllib3.connectionpool.HTTPConnectionPool object at 0x7f8fc1a1d890>" | 20:51 |
| randymarsh9 | Deeps: so does it sound like it integrates with ntop or it runs on its own? | 20:57 |
| Deeps | it runs on it's own, but it still needs to feed into ntop or something else like it | 20:58 |
| randymarsh9 | i installed both ntopng and nprobe and can't figure out what's running what so troubleshooting is pretty freaking hard | 20:58 |
| Deeps | Fully interoperable with commercial collectors such as IsarFlow, Fluke, Cisco, Dartware, AdventNet, Arbor Networks, Plixer, NetFlow Auditor, SolarWinds Orion NTA. | 20:58 |
| Deeps | from the nprobe page | 20:58 |
| randymarsh9 | pretty lame that none of the switches work on windows when they claim it runs on windows | 21:01 |
| randymarsh9 | guess i should have this running on linux | 21:01 |
| Deeps | i'm assuming you haven't paid for it | 21:04 |
| Deeps | given that you're asking in here | 21:04 |
| Deeps | rather than using the 5 days installation support that they give you when you pay | 21:05 |
| Deeps | and from what i can tell, nprobe isn't free | 21:06 |
| randymarsh9 | what makes you think it's not free? | 21:10 |
| randymarsh9 | it's open source and they link to the download page right on their site | 21:10 |
| Deeps | randymarsh9: the text on the site that says it's not free | 21:26 |
| lordievader | IIRC, the software is free, the appliance/support isn't. | 21:27 |
| Deeps | randymarsh9: nProbe™ is available for a little fee, that’s used for running the project and funding the new developments. You can purchase online your copy of nProbe™ at the ntop e-shop site, that includes one year support. After the transaction is completed you can download your nProbe™ copy immediately | 21:27 |
| Deeps | nProbe is distributed under the EULA and requires a license per system. | 21:27 |
| Deeps | just because source is open, just because the download is freely available without drm, doesn't make it free | 21:27 |
| Deeps | the website seems to contradict itself regarding availability of source code, but it doesn't appear that the source is freely available either | 21:30 |
| lordievader | They provide a deb didn't they? | 21:32 |
| Deeps | the text suggests it's a binary package distribution | 21:35 |
| lordievader | Ah, in such a way. | 21:35 |
| * lordievader is happy with pmacct | 21:35 | |
| Deeps | oh that looks like it could be good at home | 21:36 |
| Deeps | and more | 21:36 |
| randymarsh9 | Deeps: then maybe don't link to it from the same directory where you store all your free license binaries | 21:43 |
| Deeps | randymarsh9: maybe better to tell them that rather than me, it's not my license you're violating | 21:45 |
| randymarsh9 | their page says it's free to try | 21:45 |
| Deeps | \o/ | 21:45 |
| randymarsh9 | are you the dmca police or something | 21:45 |
| randymarsh9 | jesus christ | 21:46 |
| Deeps | nope, but you asked why i thought it wasn't free, i explained. just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean you need to take it out on me /o\ | 21:46 |
| randymarsh9 | you made it sound like i shouldn't be asking for help in here because i didn't pay for it | 21:48 |
| randymarsh9 | very helpful of you | 21:48 |
| Deeps | sorry if you got that impression, given that i've been the only person to try and help you so far, i'll leave you to the rest /o\ | 21:48 |
| Deeps | gl, nn! | 21:49 |
| randymarsh9 | by telling me i didn't pay for support..... | 21:50 |
| randymarsh9 | right, thanks | 21:50 |
| crazybluek | hmm, it seems net hangs every time dhclient renew ip given by fibermodem ? any workaround this ? | 21:55 |
| sarnold | does it renew the same or a different address? | 21:57 |
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| sarnold | does it set e.g. bad dns server names? | 21:57 |
| sarnold | does it mess with the routing tables? | 21:57 |
| sarnold | are there any errors or warnings in the logs? | 21:58 |
| crazybluek | should be same address as it have had same IP all the time | 22:00 |
| crazybluek | havn't found warnings in logs yet | 22:00 |
| randymarsh9 | anyone know of any better alternatives to ntop for collecting netflow traffic? | 22:01 |
| crazybluek | I loose net connectiong at 18-20 minute | 22:01 |
| crazybluek | 24/7 I loose netconnection every 18-20 minute | 22:02 |
| sarnold | crazybluek: dang.. | 22:02 |
| crazybluek | for 1-2 minute | 22:02 |
| lordievader | randymarsh9: As I said, I'm happy with the pmacct and nfsen combination. | 22:02 |
| crazybluek | 18-20 min about same time as renew time 1065 second I've seen in logs | 22:03 |
| sarnold | nfsen? is that packaged? | 22:03 |
| randymarsh9 | lordievader: does it have a pretty dashboard ? | 22:04 |
| lordievader | sarnold: Not that I know of. | 22:04 |
| lordievader | randymarsh9: It's functional. | 22:04 |
| randymarsh9 | ahah | 22:05 |
| sarnold | lordievader: hah, apparently I've already visited http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/ and even looked at screenshots. sigh. :) | 22:05 |
| randymarsh9 | guess that's most important | 22:05 |
| randymarsh9 | lordievader: do you have it running on ubuntu? | 22:05 |
| lordievader | randymarsh9: Nfsen, yes. Pmacct, no. | 22:06 |
| randymarsh9 | if i download nfsen do i need to use pmacct? | 22:06 |
| randymarsh9 | i just want to see what's using the most bandwidth | 22:07 |
| lordievader | Nfsen is just something to collect/display flow data. It doesn't generate it. | 22:07 |
| randymarsh9 | so pmacct is the collector and nfsen displays it? | 22:07 |
| lordievader | Yes, pmacct listens on an interface and sends the flow data to nfsen. | 22:08 |
| randymarsh9 | does nfsen come with its own web server or do i have to set one up? | 22:09 |
| lordievader | No, you need your own. | 22:11 |
| randymarsh9 | why don't you run pmacct on ubuntu? | 22:12 |
| randymarsh9 | i'm thinking of setting them both up on the same box | 22:12 |
| lordievader | Because the box that I want to run it on doesn't run Ubuntu? | 22:12 |
| randymarsh9 | what does it run | 22:12 |
| lordievader | Gentoo. | 22:13 |
| randymarsh9 | so why not put nfsen on gentoo as well? | 22:14 |
| randymarsh9 | or are you trying to keep them separated | 22:14 |
| lordievader | Since my webserver vm runs Ubuntu. | 22:16 |
| randymarsh9 | cool | 22:19 |
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