[01:13] <blueFive> Anyone here using Voyager Live based on Xubuntu?
[01:13] <Unit193> Well, it's not supported here, so only if they dual-boot.
[01:39] <blueFive> "What can I say about Voyager Linux that I haven’t said before? It’s my favorite Linux distro of choice. It’s based on Xubuntu but surpasses Xubuntu in every way. "
[01:40] <blueFive> "Again Voyager is a Swiss Army knife of Linux distros for me. It comes with a lot of great software that isn’t bloatware at all. However, be aware, their website and some of the instructions are in French but you can get a translation of the website and most of the distro defaults to English."
[01:42] <Unit193> blueFive: Okay...?  Please see their support mediums for support, thanks.
[01:42] <blueFive> No need for support.
[01:42] <blueFive> But it's Xubuntu based but better so I thought the folks here would be interested.
[01:43] <Unit193> Nope, please take it elsewhere.
[01:46] <blueFive> LOL. Stubborn :P
[03:33] <MarkusDBX> Hi, I'm looking for a really nice rss reader, any recommendations?
[04:06] <Unit193> MarkusDBX: I like newsbeuter, but liferea is a GUI one.
[04:09] <ajhlinuxuser_> I love xubuntu, it is my distribution of choice!
[04:12] <ajhlinuxuser_> I just find I never come to talk about it because I'm always in the chat rooms for other distros that I'm experimenting with, finding bugs etc.
[04:20] <Unit193> ajhlinuxuser_: FWIW, there's also #xubuntu-offtopic but not a lot of chat now since it's night/early morning US/EU time.
[04:36] <ajhlinuxuser_> yeah, I might join offtopic when it is busier.
[07:13] <senpos> Good morning. I want to install Xubuntu 16.04 Beta 2. Will i be able to update to Final release from Beta 2 without any problems? I'm asking about that, because i've just read on site, that Beta 2 isn't recommended as an upgrade medium, but i don't clearly understand what does it mean.
[07:17] <flocculant> senpos: if you tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 with the update-manager you would know exactly what we meant when it all went black :)
[07:18] <flocculant> you can update to final from b2 - but you'll need to do so often - so if bandwidth is an issue then I wouldn't
[07:18] <flocculant> also - it's still dev obviously - so it could go south tomorrow ... it probably won't - but be aware of that
[07:20] <senpos> flocculant: in will be a clean install on brand new laptop and bandswitch is not a problem. Thanks for answer. :-)
[07:24] <flocculant> senpos: welcome - ftr I've been running it since November and the only time it's gotten really broken - I shouldn't have done that ;)
[09:02] <Mindiell> hi there! By downloading the release for desktop, do I have do download some packages from the internet in order to install everything (xfce, libreoffice, etc) ?
[09:02] <Mindiell> I don't think so within 1GB
[09:09] <Unit193> Nope, not unless you choose the option in the installer for some 3rd party codecs.
[09:32] <Mindiell> Unit193: thx, so is there a "bigger" install iso to dl ?
[09:32] <Mindiell> with everythin out of the internet ?
[09:45] <knome> Mindiell, what exactly would you need to be on the ISO?
[09:46] <Mindiell> knome: I want to be able to install the xubuntu completely : with xfce and base programs (libre office, maybe gimp, and so on)
[09:46] <knome> the desktop ISO will do that
[09:46] <Mindiell> I don't know what is inside basic install of xubuntu
[09:46] <Mindiell> knome: without downloading any packages from the net ?
[09:46] <knome> yes.
[09:46] <Mindiell> (I know they won't be up to date, but it's not important)
[09:47] <Mindiell> ok, so the 1GB iso contains everything ?
[09:47] <knome> yes.
[09:47] <Mindiell> thx !
[09:47] <Mindiell> you made my day ;o)
[09:47] <knome> note that depending on the release the applications shipped can be/are different
[09:48] <knome> but if you want the default xubuntu desktop, you will always get it with the desktop ISO
[09:50] <Mindiell> great!
[09:50] <Mindiell> the applications I need are firefox, libreoffice (and maybe gimp) for the basic install
[09:51] <Mindiell> after that, users could access the internet and so dl/update/install whatever they want
[09:54] <knome> what "users?
[09:55] <Mindiell> well, I want to install xubuntu on some PCs
[09:56] <Mindiell> for an install party
[09:56] <Mindiell> so I want to be able to do it without beng connected in order to be more independant (I had some issues sooner :o) )
[09:59] <knome> but if you have connection issues during installation, why wouldn't the user have connection issues later?
[10:11] <Mindiell> knome: because once installed, the user can get back to his home and connect to the internet but, the minimum has been installed and I teach them how to use linux ;o)
[10:13] <knome> Mindiell, i don't think it's good publicity for linux that you do the minimum work required or that you don't want to try to connect to the internet because there might be connection issues (there might be connection issues when the user gets home, what do they do then when they have no idea what they should do?)
[10:14] <knome> ...just that you can be more "independent"
[10:14] <Mindiell> hmm, I mean I had connection issue because we were in the fablab and WiFi didn't work correctly.
[10:14] <Mindiell> I want to be safe next time I do this :o)
[11:55] <xubuntu81w> Hello, I can't shutdown or restart my machine, using Dell Inspiron 14R 5421, Xubuntu 15.10 (all updates/upgrades applied) and Mint XFCE 17.3 (all updates and upgrades applied). Trying to restart/shutdown results in logging off only. Even trying "sudo reboot" in terminal for example results in error: "Please enter passphrase for disk ST1000LM024_HN-M101MBB (cryptswap1) on none! *Failed to start reboot.target: Transaction is destr
[11:56] <xubuntu81w> Also when booting Xubuntu, it gives this message ""Please enter passphrase for disk ST1000LM024_HN-M101MBB (cryptswap1) on none! " during boot.
[11:56] <bazhang> you are dual booting with mint?
[11:56] <xubuntu81w> Yes. My disk is GPT
[11:56] <bazhang> mint with what de
[11:56] <xubuntu81w> XFCE
[11:57] <xubuntu81w> Just like Xubuntu.
[11:57] <bazhang> so its a mint q
[11:57] <xubuntu81w> Nop, it has nothing to do with Mint, Mint is working okay. The swap is working okay.
[13:02] <Waldschrat> Hallo, kann mich jemand hoeren (lesen)?
[13:02] <knome> !de | Waldschrat
[13:03] <Waldschrat> oh - i see
[13:03] <Waldschrat> I observed something what can possibly be a bug
[13:04] <knome> okay
[13:04] <Waldschrat> if someone can compare that: i used a password with a caret "^" in it and couldn't login over console
[13:05] <Waldschrat> tried several times; with gui = all o.k., with console : nothing
[13:06] <knome> i imagine the console might have a different keyboard layout in use
[13:07] <knome> can you type the caret in the username field?
[13:07] <knome> well, username input...
[13:07] <Waldschrat> I  entered the password visible, just to see just that, but all was visible as expected
[13:08] <Waldschrat> i need to enter another character after the caret in the console to get the caret itself
[13:08] <dkessel> it could be that ^+ the character after it get combined into something like ô â û (umlaut with caret / "dach") in the console
[13:08] <dkessel> that's just normal console behaviour
[13:09] <Waldschrat> that is possible, but the console doesn't show something of that
[13:10] <dkessel> i always type ^ + spacebar to get a "clean" caret
[13:11] <Waldschrat> I will try that
[13:11] <Waldschrat> thankyou for hints
[13:12] <knome> (it might still be a valid bug though, if the workaround dkessel suggested doesn't work)
[13:56] <Waldschrat> o.k. - I could verify: the caret with the following character was the problem: caret + e.g. a - all ok: gui and console behave the same; caret + "j": console and gui act different. there are other characters with similar different behaviour: caret + "b" - seemingly no character at all comes up and different behaviour in console and gui; I expect more.
[13:57] <Waldschrat> (caret and "j" gives a character in the gui)
[13:57] <Waldschrat> oh - it is a german keyboard here
[13:58] <Waldschrat> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[13:58] <Waldschrat> LANGUAGE=de_DE
[13:58] <Waldschrat> that is, what set shows
[13:59] <Waldschrat> GDM_LANG=de_DE
[14:01] <Waldschrat> if someone could redirect these info to the coders please
[14:40] <Waldschrat> o.k. - good bye, thankyou for help
[22:28] <xubuntu57w> hello?
[22:29] <xubuntu57w> I have found a bug in the latest 14.04 LTS Release
[22:33] <Azelphur> xubuntu57w: IRC isn't the best place for bugs, I'd recommend you file a bug on launchpad
[23:56] <Maratus> Hey, what's the best way for me to have an application launch without a border without being fullscreen?