/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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soeegood morning06:16
soeeclivejo: what is the muon FFe status ?08:35
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telegram1<Clifford>: In need of a sponsor10:21
BluesKajHi folks12:22
clivejoregarding libqapt3-runtime, should this not pull in libqapt3 which is the actual library?13:15
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: Muon - I built it yesterday, it Crashes when checking for updates13:16
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: Might be a Lib problem, but need to debug13:16
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: Ovidiu is assiting me on this13:16
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: But...13:16
clivejoSick_Rimmit it needs libqapt13:17
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: I have no authority with KDE, and am still trying to work out how to assign myself as maintainer13:17
clivejoIve built it too and its in my PPA13:17
clivejoDid you see my email on devel list?13:17
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: Ah ha alrighty, so I could test with that, perhaps this evening13:17
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: No at work at moment13:17
clivejoI was in touch with Carlos13:18
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: I am not MOTU, and have no commit rights, so I too will need a Mentor / Sponsor to work with me13:18
clivejoCarlos has commit access13:18
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: But am happy to dash around breaking the code 😃13:18
clivejoits him that fixed the close and cache bugs13:19
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: Ah ha, alright I will send him an email this evening13:19
clivejohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-March/010299.html13:19
clivejobut that cache bug fix requires an updated libqapt13:20
clivejoto correctly handle the signals13:20
telegram1<Sick_Rimmit>: OK, well happy to work on this, this evening if you're around13:21
clivejohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-March/010340.html13:21
clivejothere been a few people testing the latest git version, including myself and it works great13:22
clivejoI opened a FFE to try and get it into Xenial13:23
clivejobut need a sponsor (Bug 1562406)13:23
ubottubug 1562406 in muon (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update to latest upstream version" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156240613:23
geniiYay, all the Kubuntu PPA keys seem to have fixed now! apt is no longer complaining about weak keys on any of them 14:28
telegram1<marcinsagol>: ;)16:45
sick_rimmitclivejo: Hi there19:35
sick_rimmitovidiu-florin: You about good buddy ?19:36
clivejoyup19:39
sick_rimmitHi 19:39
clivejoHi19:39
clivejohows you?19:39
sick_rimmitGood, been a busy day, but back home now19:39
soeehiho19:39
sick_rimmitWanted to try out MPM with you libqapt on 16.0419:40
clivejoIm trying to get back control of my system19:40
sick_rimmitWas hopinf ovidiu-florin was about as he was doing some debugging yesterday19:40
clivejoleft KCI open in firefox and its using 5Gb of memory and maxing out a CPU core19:40
sick_rimmitI'm just getting a 16.04 VM ready now, which will take me about 30 mins19:40
sick_rimmitRestart Firefox, and it'll stop doing that19:41
sick_rimmitI think FF could do with a little optimisation work19:41
clivejoso to bring you up to speed on NPM19:42
clivejoMPM even19:42
sick_rimmityes please do19:42
clivejoacheron88 reported that he had built from git19:42
clivejoand it was working up until the start of March19:42
clivejoso we debugged it19:43
clivejohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15490905/19:44
sick_rimmitI built it from the Master branch which I pulled about 4 days ago. builds and runs, but crashes when checking updatres19:45
clivejoyup19:45
clivejosame as that bug report19:45
clivejocrashes on QObject::connect: No such signal QApt::Backend::cacheReloadStarted()19:45
clivejoCarlos fixed two bugs on the 3rd March19:46
clivejoone was to do with closing the main window19:47
clivejothe other was that updating caused a blank package list19:47
sick_rimmitAh yes I saw those in the commit logs19:47
clivejoso he added code that allows qapt to signal 19:47
clivejohttps://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git19:47
clivejoso basically you need the two packages updated to make it work19:48
clivejowe found that if we reverted the last commit to muon, it worked19:48
clivejobut Carlos explained to me what he was doing and I realised it was better to include that fix19:49
sick_rimmitAh alright19:49
clivejoso  packaged libqapt and muon19:49
acheron88build I did that worked straight off was on 2nd March19:49
clivejohi acheron88 :)19:49
acheron88hi :)19:49
sick_rimmitOK, and you have a ppa with the latest lib in it yes ?19:49
clivejoyes, both libqapt and muon19:50
sick_rimmitOh both right cool, do they work ?19:50
clivejoI added a dep on the latest version of qapt too 19:50
clivejoseems to19:50
clivejoabout 6 people have been testing it19:50
sick_rimmitAh ha, right that excellent19:50
clivejoso I opened a FFE19:50
acheron88not tested exhaustively, but not managed to crash it yet19:50
clivejoto try and get the fixes into Xenial19:51
sick_rimmitand the status is ?19:51
clivejobut if you could get in touch with Carlos I think hes interested in keeping Muon updated19:51
clivejoI need a sponsor19:51
sick_rimmitYep, I will do that 19:52
clivejolike yofel or someone with MOTU 19:52
sick_rimmitCarlos I mean19:52
clivejohes talking about giving it a face lift19:52
clivejonew QML/declarative UI19:52
clivejobe nice if we could have some input in that and maybe help him out19:53
clivejocoding is not one of my strong points19:53
sick_rimmitWell, I know ovidiu-florin and I will assist19:53
clivejohavent coded since uni19:53
acheron88nor here. can build it, but not code it that much19:54
clivejoI can usually follow what its doing19:54
sick_rimmitmine neither, but am happy to try pussling with it19:54
sick_rimmitpzzuling19:54
sick_rimmitoh you know what I mean19:54
clivejobut sitting down and actually writting code is beyond me19:54
clivejowell it seems that discover and updater have been stripped out of Muon and are now in the plasma-discover package19:55
clivejoso Muon is now the stand alone package manager19:56
acheron88good. that means you can apt purge them and not affect anything else :)19:56
clivejoacheron88: do you know how to find build deps?19:57
sick_rimmitEmailed Carlo20:00
acheron88clivejo: build-deps on source without packing/debian folder?20:02
clivejoseems a nice guy :)20:02
acheron88or something already packaged?20:03
clivejoyeah, I hacked the packaging from old muon packaging20:03
clivejothere is probably some build deps in the packaging that arent needed any more20:03
clivejoIve messed up my pbuild20:03
acheron88I think there is some script/command or something that does a build or dummy build and logs what depends are actually needed by the compilation?20:05
acheron88can't recall what is is or where to find it though20:05
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/muon.git/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive20:05
clivejothats the old control file, listing the build dep's LP installs in order to build it20:06
acheron88apt-cache showsrc | grep Build-Depends ?20:06
clivejoacheron88: do you know how to package?20:06
acheron88I know how to make some adjustments to what other people have packaged, and then rebuild20:07
acheron88but not really from the ground up or in detail20:07
sick_rimmitwhich of your PPA's has Muon and LibQapt20:11
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial20:12
sick_rimmitAh perfect, I'll install that on my test VM now20:13
clivejouninstall the local build first, if you have it20:13
clivejoacheron88: are you using the one from my PPA?20:13
acheron88at present, yes20:17
clivejosorry, his name is Carlo Vanini 20:17
clivejono s20:17
clivejo:/ my bad20:17
acheron88Any use? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html20:18
acheron88http://paste.ubuntu.com/15562746/20:21
* sick_rimmit dives off to look at debian link20:21
clivejoacheron88: I think thats runtime deps20:21
acheron88then -dev packages for those20:21
clivejoits libQApt.so.3 that was causing us the problem20:22
sick_rimmitAh brilliant20:23
acheron88"and for each library listed, e.g., libfoo.so.6, and for each library listed, e.g., libfoo.so.6, execute dpkg -S libfoo.so.6"20:23
sick_rimmitIs debian where you guys go for your documentation about how to package etc.. etc..20:23
acheron88"Then just take the -dev version of every package as a Build-Depends entry."20:23
clivejowhat Im looking for is a list of packages we would need to install on a clean system in order to build the source code into binary 20:23
clivejosick_rimmit: yes, debian is our upstream20:23
clivejomost of our packaging is on debian git too20:24
sick_rimmitI've been trying to use the Ubuntu docs, and failing or getting lost20:24
acheron88That is what the debian link to gets to in the end, the build deps 20:24
clivejosick_rimmit: yeah, they need updated20:24
acheron88supposedly20:25
clivejoacheron88: but you will also need things like extra-cmake-modules and other package building tools20:25
acheron88yes, but that's easily worked out from trying to build yourself from git20:26
clivejosick_rimmit: this is the current packaging for muon on debian git - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/muon.git/20:26
acheron88cmake/configure moans about what it needs but doesn't have20:27
clivejoacheron88: do you have a clean system in order to do that?20:27
clivejolike a pbuild or something20:27
clivejosick_rimmit: kubuntu_xenial_archive is our branch20:28
acheron88mostly I'm just building for myself, and have plenty of HD space, so just install what I need on that machine itself20:28
clivejobut that packaging is for the old muon (updater, discover and muon PM) all in one20:29
clivejoacheron88: no problem, Im just looking for a short cut!20:29
acheron88chroot of a basic system to try builds in?20:30
clivejoyeah20:30
acheron88rather than pbuilder20:30
clivejothats what pbuild is really, just a chroot of a nice clean system20:30
sick_rimmitSo the muon packaging, is that basically the contents of the /debian directory /20:31
sick_rimmit?20:31
clivejosick_rimmit: yup20:31
sick_rimmitAh ha, now I think I see what your doing20:31
sick_rimmitso you not doing dh_make and all that20:31
clivejothe packaging actually does that too20:32
sick_rimmityou're merging KDE packages with Debian packaging and doing a Debuild20:32
acheron88the last standalone packaging for muon was v5.4.3 presumably?20:32
clivejosee the debian/rules file20:32
clivejowe take the source code and mash it together with the packaging and if all goes well we get .deb files at the end20:33
clivejothe packaging is like the recipe of how and where everything goes20:33
sick_rimmitSo are you using git subpackages ? 20:34
clivejoI take a git snapshot20:34
clivejobasically git clone the kde archive20:34
acheron88should really learn how to package properly20:34
clivejothen create a tarball of that, I called it muon_5.5.0+git20160326.orig.tar.gz20:35
sick_rimmitacheron88: Are you comfortable with packaging to .deb from scratch ?20:35
acheron88sick_rimmit: not a chance20:35
sick_rimmitOK20:36
clivejoacheron88: feel free to ask :)  Also, come to the packaging party!20:36
acheron88may well do20:36
sick_rimmitYes, to be fair I think we are all at different stages of trying to figure packaging out20:36
sick_rimmitI'm following you clivejo20:37
acheron88debain devs do seem to have gone that extra mile out of their way to make it complicated20:37
clivejosick_rimmit: true, but we can help each other.  There are always things one person picks up and understands better20:37
sick_rimmitYes that's right20:38
clivejoacheron88: it does look that way, and I feel your pain.  But I think they designed in a way to make you think about what you are doing and therefore flag mistakes easier20:38
acheron88keep meaning to start here and go through the guides: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/20:39
sick_rimmitWe'll be doing that at the party20:39
clivejoacheron88: I wouldnt!!  I read those things for ages20:39
sick_rimmitGoing through getting everything setup20:39
clivejoonly way to learn is to get your hands dirty and actually do it20:39
acheron88clivejo: fair enough20:39
sick_rimmitAt the party on the 15th, you can follow along ask questions etc..20:40
acheron88sounds a plan20:41
acheron88OK. gotta go20:42
acheron88hope you get muon in xenial :)20:42
sick_rimmitOK, c u later20:42
clivejothanks for your help acheron8820:42
* clivejo re-creates pbuild environment20:45
* sick_rimmit setting my bzr and DEBFULLNAME crudentials20:47
sick_rimmitthere we go, I'm all setup20:50
sick_rimmitI'll be going through those steps again on yofel server at the party so folks can have a crack at it themselves20:53
clivejosick_rimmit: do you know how to get the packaging from LP?20:54
sick_rimmitNo.. the way I did it when Riddell showed me was to copy the /debian folder from the current package,20:55
sick_rimmitsomething like that it was quite some time ago20:56
sick_rimmitI have a sense that dh_make is the right way to go as it will make all that for you20:56
sick_rimmitbut of course that for new20:56
sick_rimmitI it's an update then the old stuff needs to be kept too20:57
sick_rimmitAh I get mixed up anyways20:57
sick_rimmitthere is jusy too many ways to do too many things20:57
clivejook, well lets grab my muon packaging20:57
clivejoso go to the packages page on my PPA - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+packages20:58
clivejoclick the arrow beside muon20:58
sick_rimmitk20:58
clivejoand you can see the package files?20:58
sick_rimmityes see em20:59
clivejoso you can either download the packaging by downloading muon_5.5.0+git20160326-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2.debian.tar.xz20:59
clivejoor you can use dget which will grab the packaging and source code20:59
sick_rimmitAh yes dget I remember21:00
clivejoso dget https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+files/muon_5.5.0+git20160326-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2.dsc21:00
clivejodget needs a dsc file to work with21:00
clivejothat will grab both the source code and the packaging21:01
sick_rimmitgot it21:01
clivejoso if you do an ls, you should have 3 files21:02
clivejo*.orig.tar.gz is your source code21:02
clivejoand *.debian.tar.xz is the packaging21:03
sick_rimmityep I see that21:03
clivejoso unpack the packaging - tar -xvf muon_5.5.0+git20160326-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2.debian.tar.xz21:04
clivejoyou will get a debian folder21:05
sick_rimmitah yes21:05
clivejonow unpack the source code - tar -xvf muon_5.5.0+git20160326.orig.tar.gz21:05
clivejoyou will get a muon folder21:06
sick_rimmitlibmuon21:06
sick_rimmit?21:06
sick_rimmiti.e /debian/libmuon21:07
clivejoyeah, there are still issues we need to clean up with the packaging21:07
clivejowas going to go through it with you21:07
clivejothe first "problem" is the way I grabbed the git snapshot21:08
clivejodo you notice in the sourcecode there are .git folders?21:08
clivejocd muon21:09
clivejols -al21:09
sick_rimmithmm21:10
clivejothere is a folder called .git21:10
sick_rimmitI have /muon folde missing21:10
clivejodid you unpack the source code?21:10
sick_rimmitdo I need to upack muon..orig.tar.gz too21:10
clivejo tar -xvf muon_5.5.0+git20160326.orig.tar.gz21:10
sick_rimmitno21:10
clivejoyes21:10
sick_rimmit2 secs,  now its making more sense21:11
sick_rimmitOk got /debian /muon/.git21:11
sick_rimmitwe're there21:11
clivejoorig.tar.gz is the source code I grabbed from KDE git here - https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git21:12
clivejook cd into muon21:12
sick_rimmitk21:12
clivejoso basically .git and .reviewboardrc shouldnt be there21:12
* clivejo was hacking and didnt do it properly21:13
sick_rimmitHmm21:14
clivejothat is a hidden folder git uses to track changes and history21:14
sick_rimmitso we probably want to do a git checkout rather than a snapshot21:14
sick_rimmityou reckon >21:14
sick_rimmit?21:14
clivejoyes, thats what I should have done21:15
clivejobut I cloned it21:15
clivejotaking up space for no reason21:15
sick_rimmitI'm starting to figure what KCI might be doing now21:16
sick_rimmitPulling KDE source from GIT, Debian packaging from Debian. running Debuild21:16
sick_rimmitmaybe ?21:16
clivejoexactly21:17
sick_rimmitah ha brilliant21:17
sick_rimmitIdeally we would want to develop Jenkins jobs for each new package we want in Kubuntu then right ?21:18
clivejoLaunchpad doesnt like sourcecode with the same name21:18
clivejoso I cant just delete these files and upload again21:18
sick_rimmitAh right21:18
clivejoso my plan is to rename the new sourcecode (minus the git faff) and use a current date stamp21:19
sick_rimmitYes that sounds like a good solution21:19
clivejoso my new source will be muon_5.5.0+git20160330.orig.tar.gz21:19
sick_rimmitrepack and dput ?21:19
sick_rimmitperfect21:20
clivejoyes, but there are few more problems!21:20
sick_rimmitoh21:20
clivejoso go back up and cd into debian folder21:21
sick_rimmityep21:21
clivejooh actually, we'll grab the source and prepare the orig file first21:22
sick_rimmitk21:22
clivejoso back to your working folder21:22
sick_rimmitk21:22
clivejothe one with debian and muon in it21:22
sick_rimmityep21:22
clivejoso we will delete the muon folder21:22
clivejoand muon_5.5.0+git20160326.orig.tar.gz21:23
sick_rimmitdone21:23
* clivejo scratches head21:29
clivejoIm not sure how to grab a snapshot without those files!21:30
clivejoI usually just delete them manually21:34
sick_rimmithang on I have a git book link one sec I find it21:35
clivejook I used git clone kde:muon21:37
sick_rimmitv21:37
clivejothen git archive --prefix=muon/ -o ../muon_5.5.0+git20160330.orig.tar.gz HEAD21:37
sick_rimmithttps://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v221:37
clivejothat seems to do what we need21:38
clivejothats something I need to ask yofel or sgclark21:38
sick_rimmithmmm I deleted muon folder, and so now have not git config for kde:muon21:39
sick_rimmitDoh!21:39
clivejodo you have the settings for your .gitconfig file?21:41
sick_rimmitNope. so git doesn't know what kde is21:42
sick_rimmitwell kde:21:42
sick_rimmitis21:43
clivejohttps://sysadmin.kde.org/services/code-repositories/21:43
sick_rimmitgit clone git://anongit.kde.org/muon.git21:44
sick_rimmitworks21:44
clivejoyou can use that21:45
sick_rimmitBingo21:45
sick_rimmitnice git archive command foo clive21:45
clivejojust learned something myself21:46
clivejoisnt this fun!21:46
sick_rimmitYes, it's good crack when working together21:46
clivejoso you got a clone?21:47
sick_rimmityes, I archived from it to21:48
sick_rimmitwas just going to see if that removed the .git folde21:48
sick_rimmitr21:48
clivejoso you cd into the muon folder21:48
clivejoand run git archive --prefix=muon/ -o ../muon_5.5.0+git20160330.orig.tar.gz HEAD21:49
sick_rimmitYes, 21:49
clivejoyou can then delete the muon folder21:49
sick_rimmitI unpacked it and there is no .git folder, so Woo Hoo that's one bit21:50
clivejophewww21:50
sick_rimmitnow for .reviewboardrc21:50
* clivejo wipes sweat off brow21:50
clivejothat can stay21:50
clivejoit is part of the KDE archive21:50
* sick_rimmit copies git archive command to packaging Basket21:51
clivejousually I just delete the .git and .reviewboardrc manually21:51
clivejoIm not sure what is best practice, we need to ask21:51
sick_rimmitInteresting21:53
sick_rimmithttps://git-scm.com/docs/git-archive21:53
clivejousually with KDE software we download the tarball from http://download.kde.org/21:53
sick_rimmitTake a look at --remote21:53
sick_rimmitIt might be possible to pull an archive from the remote all in one command21:54
clivejopossible, this is all new to me21:55
clivejomost sofware is pre-tarballed ready for use21:56
sick_rimmitlike this21:56
sick_rimmitgit archive --remote=git://anongit.kde.org/muon.git --prefix=muon/ -o ../muon_5.5.0+git-tester.orig.tar.gz HEAD21:56
sick_rimmitThat will work with any KDE remote21:56
sick_rimmitNow that's groovy21:57
clivejowow yes it is21:57
clivejoyou dont need the ../ then21:58
sick_rimmitAh yeah ! that's right21:58
* clivejo adds command to his packaging bible21:58
clivejoI wonder is that a proper tar.gz file format though?22:00
sick_rimmitAh no, I don't think it is22:01
sick_rimmit--format=<fmt>22:02
sick_rimmit    Format of the resulting archive: tar or zip. If this option is not given, and the output file is specified, the format is inferred from the filename if possible (e.g. writing to "foo.zip" makes the output to be in the zip format). Otherwise the output format is tar.22:02
sick_rimmitSo its just a plan tar22:02
sick_rimmitor you can specify zip with the --format switch22:02
sick_rimmitBut that's OK as a .tar file for the purpose of packaging22:03
sick_rimmitjust need to change the -o filname.tar22:03
clivejoI guess we could just untar it 22:05
clivejoand then use tar -cvzf to create a tar.gz22:05
sick_rimmitYes just tar -xvf22:05
sick_rimmitor just gzip it22:06
sick_rimmithmmm I wonder22:06
acheron88I would just grab a snapshot from quickgit22:08
sick_rimmitHere is some more Bash sauce22:09
sick_rimmitgit archive --remote=git://anongit.kde.org/muon.git --prefix=muon/ -o ./muon_5.5.0+git-tester.orig.tar HEAD; gzip muon_5.5.0+git-tester.orig.tar22:10
sick_rimmitThat'll pull it, tar it, and gzip it22:10
sick_rimmityou end up with *.orig.tar.gz22:11
acheron88http://i.imgur.com/RDsRRRb.png22:11
acheron88but good to know how to do it from git all the same22:11
sick_rimmitAh yes, but with the CLI above it removes the .git folder from the source22:12
sick_rimmitso we don't have go rm'ing it22:12
acheron88so does the snapshot link it the git web gui22:12
clivejoMore than one way to skin a cat!22:12
acheron88not .git folder in each snapshot22:13
sick_rimmitOh 22:13
sick_rimmitlol22:13
acheron88no. your way is good, as you may not always have a handy way to do that via the web22:14
sick_rimmitMaybe just needs to be a bit more fancy...22:14
clivejowell Ive learned something tonight!22:16
sick_rimmit#!/bin/bash; git archive --remote=$REMOTE --prefix=$PROJECT -o $PATH+FILE+DATE HEAD; gzip $PATH+FILE+DATE 22:16
sick_rimmitThat's pseudo code, but we could rap that into a shell script, and have do some magic across a set of proejcts22:17
sick_rimmitanyways.. maybe I muck about with that another time22:18
clivejosick_rimmit: its worth noting this is more advanced packaging :P22:18
sick_rimmitI'll have a crack at shell scripting something, not right now though22:19
sick_rimmitanother day22:19
clivejojust dont make the same mistake I did and forget about the .git folder22:19
clivejobut to go in the archive we need to fix these rooky mistakes22:20
sick_rimmitalright where we up to with the packaging22:21
clivejoIm gonna have to go soon, but Ill give you an idea of what needs fixed22:21
clivejoso in the debian folder22:22
sick_rimmitk22:22
clivejowe need to change the version to muon 5.5.0+git2016033022:23
clivejowe need to check the build deps in the control file22:23
clivejoremove the libmoun stuff22:24
sick_rimmitOK then repack and dput to your PPA >22:25
sick_rimmit?22:25
sick_rimmitAfter debuild -S 22:26
clivejoI think we can delete the not-installed22:27
clivejomuon-exporter doesnt seem to be built any more22:27
clivejotheres a patch called no-canonical-support22:29
clivejoneed to see if that can be applied still22:30
clivejoIm not sure what that patch is about22:30
clivejoPatch out Canonical support information used for Ubuntu - We're Debian22:31
clivejowell we're Ubuntu, so we want that :P22:31
clivejothat could probably be removed22:32
clivejoremember that xapian error on install?22:33
clivejomight have something to do with muon.postinst22:33
sick_rimmitOK, well I'll have another look tomorrow22:35
clivejoyeah22:36
sick_rimmitI need to go back over the packaging basics, to refresh my memory about changelog, and which tools do what etc...22:36
clivejodch is the tool for working with changelog22:36
sick_rimmitMy Xenial VM is almost done upgrading, and pulling in your PPA22:36
sick_rimmitAh yes thanks22:37
clivejomy PPA was a hack to test the new git versions22:37
clivejoboth libqapt and muon need cleaning up22:37
sick_rimmitOK, well I can continue work on that.22:37
sick_rimmitWill my keys let me push to your PPA..22:38
clivejonope22:38
sick_rimmitah didn't think so22:38
clivejobut you can sign it and send it to yours22:38
sick_rimmitI can push to mine, but I don't have a sponsor either22:38
clivejowell we need to fix the packaging before then22:39
sick_rimmitThat is what I will try to do, and try get it working22:39
clivejothe packaging will need to be pushed to debian git for yofel to review22:39
clivejoand a debdiff for the FFE22:39
sick_rimmitWhen do you expect the FFE 22:40
clivejowhen I get the packaging fixed!22:40
sick_rimmitAh OK, let me work on it tomorrow night.22:40
clivejoI wasnt completely sure that it was working22:40
sick_rimmitWorst that could happen is nothing gets any better22:40
clivejobut Ive been testing it for a few days now and it seems to be very stable22:41
clivejoothers have reported the same22:41
sick_rimmitOK, so packaging tidy up should get us in22:41
clivejoI think so22:42
sick_rimmitOK, until tomorrow then22:42
valorie\o/22:42
sick_rimmitHi valorie22:42
valorieso happy to see you guys working together, having fun, fixing stuff22:42
sick_rimmitYes, it been rather good this evening22:42
valoriewhile I was out digging dandelions22:42
valorielol22:43
sick_rimmitOoo send them to me I will make wine from them22:43
valoriedandelions were jeering at me, I couldn't stand it22:43
valoriehah!22:43
sick_rimmitDandelion wine is really rather good22:43
valorieI think they would be rather dried up by the time they crossed the pond22:43
sick_rimmitOK...22:44
sick_rimmitI Know22:44
sick_rimmitI'll send you the recipe. 22:44
valoriesurely you have some where you are?22:44
sick_rimmitwhen your done, you can ship me the wine22:44
clivejobit early for dandelions here22:44
sick_rimmitlol22:44
valorieah22:44
valoriewell, no matter how many times I dig them out, even when I get the whole root -- there are more22:44
valorieand their jeering is loud and rude!22:44
clivejoanyways, I have doctors tomorrow so I better go shower and get some sleep22:45
sick_rimmitTraditionally we pick Dandelion flowers on April 23rd St Georges day,  and make wine form then22:45
sick_rimmitcool clivejo22:45
sick_rimmitThanks, had a lot of fun tonight22:45
valoriewe're having an early spring here22:45
sick_rimmitcatch you later22:45
valorietulips almost blooming!22:45
clivejome too22:45
valoriesweet dreams22:45
clivejolearned few things too!22:45
sick_rimmitme too22:45
clivejobut just play with it22:46
clivejoand when you hit a problem ask22:46
valoriewe should get Carlos in here22:46
clivejoyou can build it locally22:46
sick_rimmitOkey dokey22:46
clivejoor dput it to launchpad22:47
valoriebtw, did you hear: http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/30/be-very-afraid-hell-has-frozen-over-bash-is-coming-to-windows-10/22:47
clivejoif you have the energy look into pbuild22:47
sick_rimmitAh yes I have used pbuilder before, I quite like it 22:47
clivejoits good for testing packaging locally22:48
sick_rimmitRight lets wrap it and get off to bed..22:48
sick_rimmitSee you tomorrow22:48
clivejoif you can figure out the build deps that would be a great help22:48
sick_rimmitBye valorie got to go busy day tomorrow, and its later here22:48
clivejoni ni22:49
* clivejo waves22:49
sick_rimmitttfn22:49
valorieo/22:49

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