| coffeeguy | well that was interesting | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| coffeeguy | hehe | 00:20 |
| coffeeguy | thanks for the help x1l | 00:20 |
| k1l | np | 00:21 |
| Beladona | How can i upgrade from 14.x LTS to 16.x LTS despite beta | 00:32 |
| Beladona | ? | 00:32 |
| k1l | Beladona: you need to use the -d for developer switch | 00:32 |
| Beladona | k1l, in which command? | 00:32 |
| k1l | update-manager or do-release-upgrade | 00:33 |
| Beladona | oh ok | 00:33 |
| k1l | Beladona: and keep in mind you dont get support in #ubuntu until release. and most PPAs dont work. | 00:34 |
| Beladona | k1l, once the stable release is released, I will auto be upgraded to stable if I just do apt-get upgrade? | 00:34 |
| k1l | it will become the final release, yes. but you need to run apt full-upgrade to get all updates | 00:35 |
| Beladona | ok. I can run it now too? | 00:36 |
| Beladona | after the do-release thing? | 00:36 |
| Beladona | I wonder whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get full-upgrade | 00:36 |
| k1l | not apt-get | 00:37 |
| Beladona | I wonder whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt full-upgrade | 00:37 |
| k1l | http://askubuntu.com/questions/605719/the-difference-between-the-different-apt-upgrade-commands | 00:40 |
| Beladona | thanks | 00:49 |
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| lotuspsychje | !info redshift xenial | 07:32 |
| ubottu | redshift (source: redshift): Adjusts the color temperature of your screen. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.10-5ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 56 kB, installed size 311 kB | 07:32 |
| eoli3n | hi | 08:14 |
| eoli3n | i removed network manager on the beta | 08:14 |
| eoli3n | and declarated eth0 in etc/network/interfaces | 08:14 |
| eoli3n | when i ifup eth0, it says that if cant find eth0, cannot bring up the interface | 08:15 |
| eoli3n | s/if/it | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | eoli3n: upgrade or clean install? | 08:15 |
| eoli3n | clean install | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | eoli3n: why removes nm? | 08:15 |
| eoli3n | why not | 08:16 |
| eoli3n | i prepare the image for 800 clients | 08:16 |
| eoli3n | i'm at work | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | eoli3n: xenial is still in developing mode right, things can still break in this stage | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | eoli3n: you could try to file a bug perhaps? | 08:17 |
| eoli3n | seriously... /etc/network/interface declaration is basic network configuration | 08:17 |
| eoli3n | if ubuntu depends to network-manager to get network working, i leave | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | !info network-manager | 08:18 |
| ubottu | network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-0ubuntu10 (xenial), package size 1222 kB, installed size 5408 kB (Only available for linux-any) | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | optional | 08:18 |
| snadge | https://juliank.wordpress.com/2016/03/14/dropping-sha-1-support-in-apt/ | 08:54 |
| snadge | this is horrible! | 08:54 |
| snadge | i want to punch this guy in the face ;) | 08:54 |
| snadge | "Technical restrictions prevent us from just showing a warning in a sensible way." | 08:59 |
| snadge | so now i can't install hipchat :| | 09:02 |
| daedric | IIRC sha1 is not safe so I was more surprised to see that it was still in use than the fact they are removing it now | 09:07 |
| snadge | dpkg -i did the trick | 09:08 |
| daedric | *not safe for a long time | 09:08 |
| snadge | i was more offended that there wasn't an option to just ignore that.. ie.. --do-it-anyway | 09:08 |
| snadge | --allow-unauthenticated only works for installation of packages.. not the update or get package list part | 09:09 |
| daedric | I see | 09:11 |
| snadge | part of me thinks.. this *should* hopefully light a firecracker under repo maintainers to update their hashes to something about more secure, more quickly | 09:12 |
| snadge | rather than.. "oh just use --ignore-any-kind-of-security" | 09:12 |
| daedric | I guess this is the goal | 09:12 |
| daedric | we can see that when people are nice, it takes years to migrate stuff (e.g. Python 2 and 3) | 09:13 |
| pastafarian_guru | i'm not responsible for the spaghetti code | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:22 |
| MonkeyDust | BluesKaj | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | hi MonkeyDust | 12:29 |
| clivejo | is there a channel for questions about packaging? | 13:15 |
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| MonkeyDust | clivejo try #ubuntu-app-devel | 13:15 |
| MonkeyDust | clivejo or ask here and wait | 13:16 |
| clivejo | Im trying to use dch but its now behaving how Id expect | 13:16 |
| MonkeyDust | dch? | 13:16 |
| lordievader | Debian change log, IIRC. | 13:19 |
| lordievader | Quite a usefull utility. | 13:19 |
| jubo2 | Hey. Happy LTS. | 14:00 |
| jubo2 | Is even year and spring. Ist Zeit für LTS release | 14:01 |
| jubo2 | The New Kubuntu seems much more responsive | 14:01 |
| jubo2 | I heard the 4.4-series kernel has some significant improvement over 4.2-series | 14:02 |
| jubo2 | and it just feels so fast | 14:03 |
| jubo2 | then again I run JACK sound server on it | 14:03 |
| jubo2 | the 15.10 | 14:03 |
| jubo2 | The only thing that bugs me in this new system is there is some drawing issue causing black flashes on screens | 14:06 |
| === hasselmm1 is now known as hasselmm | ||
| genii | apt is no longer complaining of weak keys for some Kubuntu PPAs, so this is good. | 14:33 |
| k1l | the maintainers will have to make new keys/proper signing to get the users rid of that message. | 14:34 |
| k1l | google will change it on the next chrome release, too, they said in my bug report to them | 14:34 |
| jubo2 | Really good idea to make 2 rows of apps in the panel. I like to keep it bigger so I can see the CPU load, speed and and memory usage with numbers and graphics | 14:41 |
| snadge | hmm.. april fools has started early on slashdot? | 14:41 |
| jubo2 | one should be able to select sets of apps from repos | 14:51 |
| jubo2 | I tried to dpkg --set-selections route of getting my apps | 14:52 |
| jubo2 | but KXStudio repos are not ready for Genial Genux | 14:53 |
| jubo2 | so it installed none of the apps.. prlly hit some error rate threshold that says that nothing will be installed | 14:53 |
| jubo2 | what is the name of the package of the screen capture program? | 14:56 |
| lotuspsychje | jubo2: kazam is nice | 14:56 |
| bjornar__ | is btrfs the default filesystem for xenial? | 14:57 |
| lotuspsychje | bjornar__: no | 14:57 |
| jubo2 | bjornar__: I like EXT4 | 14:57 |
| lotuspsychje | !btrfs | bjornar__ | 14:57 |
| ubottu | bjornar__: Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs | 14:57 |
| jubo2 | is very nice | 14:57 |
| jubo2 | is journaling since version 3 | 14:57 |
| jubo2 | In the 90's students needed to write statements and commits... in SQL. Now the filesystem does the same, journaling. | 14:59 |
| jubo2 | if statements without commits are found they can be rolled back to previous state | 14:59 |
| jubo2 | genial! | 14:59 |
| jubo2 | less broken files this way | 15:00 |
| daedric | yeah, like adding feature was a way to remove bug :) | 15:02 |
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| daedric | http://danluu.com/file-consistency/ | 15:07 |
| daedric | was quite nice to read | 15:07 |
| k1l_ | Mikerhinos: i would file a bugreport if the setting doesnt work | 17:02 |
| Mikerhinos | Hi, I'm on Ubuntu Gnome and the mouse button swap (I'm left handed) doesn't work, in the gnome settings panel or dconf editor, I can activate it but it has no effect (still right handed), any idea ? | 17:02 |
| k1l_ | Mikerhinos: did you try to logout and in again already? | 17:03 |
| Mikerhinos | Wow, I get an answer before I even asked the question lol, talk about efficiency... :D | 17:03 |
| Mikerhinos | Yeah, actually I'm on it since day 1 (not so along ago lol), and it worked 1 time when using dconf editor for 1st time, but when I rebooted, setting was gone :/ | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: getting crowdy in discuss :p | 17:18 |
| MonkeyDust | i'm struggling with my tv, sound but no image | 17:18 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: brand? | 17:19 |
| MonkeyDust | medion, i guess it's the 'elco', electrolytic something | 17:20 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: hmm doesnt sound good | 17:20 |
| MonkeyDust | no | 17:21 |
| MonkeyDust | well, there is sound | 17:21 |
| MonkeyDust | ;) | 17:21 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: does it have a chip at the back? | 17:21 |
| MonkeyDust | 'chip' sounds rather vague | 17:24 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: yeah i dont know the exact name for it | 17:24 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: but you could try to unplug it/re-insert | 17:24 |
| MonkeyDust | done | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | no luck? | 17:27 |
| salamanderrake | is this real? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=105320 | 17:38 |
| MonkeyDust | salamanderrake yes, we had plenty rants about it, today | 17:39 |
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| Han | Hi all, everything's working great so far. :-) | 18:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Han: great to hear mate | 18:40 |
| Han | Let's try that new kernel. They always seem to break my wireless with suspend mode | 18:42 |
| Mikerhinos | speaking of wireless, people like me with a RTL81XX chip still needs to compile our own module with https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes , several years later to get it working fine... :/ Why isn't it in the kernel ? :( | 19:01 |
| Han | Mikerhinos, is there an open bug for that problem? | 19:11 |
| psycrafts | hi there | 19:18 |
| psycrafts | i wish to report a strange bug | 19:20 |
| psycrafts | i'm also using lots of proprietary software | 19:20 |
| Mikerhinos | Han, how can I check it ? Because I know that I'm far from the only one to own a wifi usb key with that chips, and that bug is present since several years | 19:20 |
| psycrafts | on Xenial Xerus atm | 19:21 |
| psycrafts | are there people here atm? | 19:22 |
| psycrafts | and is this a place where can i report a bug? | 19:22 |
| xemacs | ya never know | 19:22 |
| psycrafts | okay | 19:22 |
| psycrafts | sometimes left clicking with mouse gone | 19:23 |
| xemacs | there is a bug list check that 1st | 19:23 |
| psycrafts | no physical problems with the mouse | 19:23 |
| psycrafts | i can't just left click | 19:23 |
| psycrafts | i said, this is a strange one | 19:24 |
| psycrafts | what can it be related with | 19:24 |
| psycrafts | if you can give me some direction i believe i can fix this | 19:25 |
| xemacs | drvier issue, hardware failure | 19:25 |
| Han | Mikerhinos, google bugzilla ubuntu ;-) | 19:25 |
| psycrafts | which hardware | 19:25 |
| xemacs | cable or button | 19:26 |
| psycrafts | no it is fixed when i reboot | 19:26 |
| xemacs | i am doing this off the top of my head ;) | 19:26 |
| psycrafts | it shouldn't be hardware stuff | 19:26 |
| xemacs | so driver issue | 19:26 |
| xemacs | most likely | 19:26 |
| psycrafts | xinput issue or something other? | 19:26 |
| xemacs | buffer not aligned hardware and software not on same page .... | 19:27 |
| psycrafts | okay this is happening while i'm browsing on firefox or using a java application | 19:28 |
| psycrafts | very random i can say | 19:28 |
| psycrafts | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcLrdgvGJxU this is some music | 19:28 |
| xemacs | maybe low level common issuue or 2 bugs | 19:29 |
| xemacs | or a buffer that is to small ...... | 19:30 |
| psycrafts | which bugs can you forward them to me? | 19:30 |
| psycrafts | the bugreports | 19:31 |
| xemacs | there is a link i dont have it handy sorry. | 19:31 |
| psycrafts | oh man what is everyone doing here? | 19:32 |
| xemacs | waiting for more ontopic things | 19:32 |
| psycrafts | like what, please tell me | 19:32 |
| xemacs | i just had lnuch | 19:33 |
| xemacs | the current bugs and fixing them !! | 19:33 |
| psycrafts | okay..there may be more serious bugs that i can understand but an unworking left mouse button is quite annoying when it happens | 19:35 |
| Han | psycrafts, nice music. | 19:35 |
| psycrafts | is there anything i can volunteer to fix things up | 19:35 |
| psycrafts | thank you Han ^^ | 19:35 |
| psycrafts | i can understand in some extent | 19:36 |
| xemacs | try to character rize the problem more | 19:36 |
| xemacs | then file the report | 19:36 |
| Han | psycrafts, officially you should report bugs to bugzilla of course. But this is a great place to help you formulate a proper report. | 19:37 |
| psycrafts | is it the place where i can characterize the issue? | 19:37 |
| psycrafts | Linux xenial 4.4.0-16-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 24 22:32:30 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 19:37 |
| psycrafts | i'm using Oracle's java | 19:38 |
| psycrafts | it first happened when i was using a java application | 19:38 |
| psycrafts | but a couple of hours ago it happened when i was browsing on firefox | 19:38 |
| psycrafts | the problem is, left clicking on mouse suddenly brokens | 19:39 |
| psycrafts | but the right clicking works | 19:39 |
| Han | can you run the application from a terminal, so you can see the console output? | 19:40 |
| psycrafts | i can use keyboard shortcuts like alt-f2 so i can open terminal | 19:40 |
| psycrafts | only mouse doesn't work when it's broke | 19:40 |
| psycrafts | only right click of mouse man first i thought it's a hardware issue but it's not | 19:41 |
| psycrafts | how can i trace this when this happens? | 19:42 |
| Han | How do you know it's not a hardware issue? | 19:43 |
| psycrafts | when i reboot, the problem is gone | 19:43 |
| psycrafts | but i didn't tried with different mouses, for real | 19:44 |
| Han | Did you check the dmesg? | 19:44 |
| psycrafts | ok i will check it now | 19:44 |
| Han | You should check the dmesg right after the problem occurs. | 19:46 |
| psycrafts | for the mouse or mice? | 19:46 |
| psycrafts | i'm really open for suggestions | 19:47 |
| psycrafts | which device should i check for when it happens? | 19:47 |
| psycrafts | input, mouse, mice? | 19:48 |
| psycrafts | or even usb | 19:48 |
| Han | If there is a problem which involves the kernel the dmesg messages at the end are relevant. | 19:49 |
| psycrafts | if it's not kernel related it may be cause of current xinput drivers | 19:49 |
| psycrafts | this is what i foresee | 19:50 |
| psycrafts | i'm using mate desktop | 19:50 |
| Han | in that case you would not see any kernel messages. You need to eliminate to be sure. | 19:50 |
| psycrafts | it may be in some codes of mate-developers | 19:51 |
| psycrafts | thank you for caring this stuff | 19:52 |
| psycrafts | if this persists badly i'll contact with them | 19:52 |
| Han | And if it's an x driver problem you should check the X.org log file. | 19:52 |
| psycrafts | i'm using nvidia's prop drivers | 19:53 |
| psycrafts | how can i contribute to ubuntu? | 19:55 |
| psycrafts | i really want to | 19:55 |
| xemacs | start at main page. documenation, and testing and mainting alway could use more help | 19:57 |
| psycrafts | that mouse issue happened now | 20:04 |
| psycrafts | i checked some dmesg message how can i paste them without any mouse action? | 20:05 |
| Han | with dmesg|tail -n 10 |xsel and shift-insert | 20:07 |
| psycrafts | i see some network issues after the command | 20:12 |
| psycrafts | ipv6 and some "non-volatile memory driver" | 20:12 |
| psycrafts | lol left clicking is not working now but right clicking is ok | 20:15 |
| psycrafts | [ 27.926637] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp3s0: link is not ready | 20:16 |
| psycrafts | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 20:16 |
| psycrafts | kerem@xenial:~$ [ 29.486060] Non-volatile memory driver v1.3 | 20:16 |
| psycrafts | bash: [: missing `]' | 20:16 |
| psycrafts | kerem@xenial:~$ [ 55.433083] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp3s0: link is not ready | 20:16 |
| psycrafts | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 20:16 |
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| psycrafts | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 20:17 |
| psycrafts | kerem@xenial:~$ [ 62.234362] wlp3s0: RX AssocResp from 14:cc:20:39:74:b8 (capab=0x1411 status=0 aid=2) | 20:17 |
| psycrafts | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 20:17 |
| psycrafts | kerem@xenial:~$ [ 62.234458] wlp3s0: associated | 20:17 |
| psycrafts | bash: [: missing `]' | 20:17 |
| psycrafts | kerem@xenial:~$ [ 62.234517] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlp3s0: link becomes ready | 20:17 |
| teward | !pastebin | psycrafts | 20:18 |
| ubottu | psycrafts: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:18 |
| psycrafts | pastebin is censored in my country af | 20:18 |
| k1l_ | psycrafts: use termbin.com | 20:19 |
| k1l_ | or any other you like | 20:19 |
| psycrafts | i'll do it when i get some beers | 20:19 |
| teward | psycrafts: there's paste.ubuntu.com too ;) ('pastebin.com' is just one of many pastebin sites) | 20:19 |
| k1l_ | because this is just annoying on irc. | 20:19 |
| psycrafts | i really wish to trace of the cause of this issue | 20:19 |
| psycrafts | touchpad works but the usb mouse doesn't also other usb mouses | 20:20 |
| jonnycoats | Anyone excited for Bash on Windows? | 20:52 |
| k1l_ | jonnycoats: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :) | 20:53 |
| jonnycoats | k1l_: Thanks! | 20:53 |
| MoPac | Hello. I'm experiencing a regression in 16.04 with touchscreen multitouch, but I'm not sure what package to file the bug against, what logs or tests to look at, etc. | 21:13 |
| MoPac | I'm pretty sure it's not the kernel, since I tried the old 4.2 one and still have the same problem | 21:14 |
| MoPac | (which is, essentially, that multitouch gestures have stopped working...) | 21:14 |
| Han | MoPac, which driver is the touchscreen using and what changed recently in that package? | 21:25 |
| Han | or did is another driver used altogether? | 21:26 |
| MoPac | Han: Not sure how to check on what driver is being used | 21:28 |
| MoPac | (xinput doesn't seem to say exactly) | 21:28 |
| Han | Isn't it mentioned in the Xorg logfile? | 21:29 |
| Han | Well mine is. | 21:32 |
| MoPac | okay, looks like the Xorg log says it's using input driver evdev | 21:34 |
| Han | and the device name as it is recognised by Xorg should also be there. Is there anything about those 2 in the bug tracker? | 21:36 |
| Han | Now that you mention it... I noticed 2 finger scrolling didn't work. | 21:37 |
| vertago1 | Anyone figured out how to work around the plasmashell crashes in kubuntu 16.04? | 21:37 |
| MoPac | Han: Re the bug tracker, I'm not sure exactly which package to be checking. This one seems a bit sparse https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 21:39 |
| Han | Can you check the workaround by Michael Wainberg? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504618 | 21:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1550704 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1504618 Type Cover (3) touchpad not working on Surface Pro 3" [High,Confirmed] | 21:41 |
| Han | Also check the last comment. Changes are you have to use a different VendorID | 21:44 |
| Han | *chances | 21:45 |
| MoPac | Han: Trying to verify if it could be the same thing (since my touchpad works just fine, and my touchscreen also works fine except for multitouch gestures) | 21:48 |
| MoPac | Yeah, so my evdev confs in the X11 confs folder really just have a touchscreen catchall, which is in 10-evdev, and the Xorg log shows that the touchscreen is assigned the "evdev touchscreen catchall" inpt class | 21:52 |
| Han | cool | 21:55 |
| MoPac | Han: I'm finding a version of the Xorg.conf files from a system backup to see if they used to have something better in them | 21:57 |
| Han | good thinking | 21:59 |
| bjornar | Hrmm.. | 23:04 |
| bjornar | 24,7MiB [##########] libicudata.so.55.1 | 23:04 |
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