[00:43] <client> hello I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Android tablet and I seem to hit a snag when I get to unlocking the device
[00:43] <client> can anyone help?
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> !devices | client
[00:44] <ubot5`> client: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[01:01] <ecanes> hello, could somebody tell me a link where I can to know what can I do and what not whit the Ubuntu mark
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> ecanes: mark?
[01:02] <ecanes> with software
[01:02] <ecanes> ubuntu software
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> ecanes: ubuntu touch apps you mean?
[01:03] <ecanes> What I can do without express authorization ( negotiated ) with the brand "Ubuntu " used with respect to software? URL giving us directions ?
[01:09] <ecanes> Is a work for the University and cant find the directions
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> ecanes: does your question about ubuntu or ubuntu-touch for mobiles?
[01:10] <Elleo> ecanes: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy <-- sounds like this is what you're looking for
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> Elleo: nice find! +1
[01:12] <ecanes> Tks Elleo and lotuspsychje by the answer
[01:12] <Elleo> no problem :)
[01:12] <ecanes> where can I put  your +1?
[01:12] <ecanes> bye
[02:07] <rgb-one> Hey
[02:07] <rgb-one> How does the Ubuntu Touch approach mobile security?
[02:19] <swalladge> is it possible to run another desktop environment with ubuntu-touch?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: yes there are multirom tools out there
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> to dual/triple/.. android, ubuntu-touch etc
[02:20] <swalladge> not multirom, i mean start ubuntu-touch, login and start i3
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: no thats not possible
[02:20] <swalladge> :(
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: but never say never right...
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: who knows what the future will bring
[02:23] <swalladge> yeah i've been looking at ubuntu-touch for a while and was excited thinking it was full linux with the converged desktop, but it seems it's taken the locked down approach of ios/android for sandboxed apps, won't work with x11 apps, readonly system by default :\
[02:24] <swalladge> my search continues....
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: why not install ubuntu-desktop on a touch based laptop then
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: 16.04 will be able to install unity8 also
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: then install i3, logout and start :p
[02:26] <swalladge> yeah that would work - i'm looking for something to be running on a tablet though
[02:26] <swalladge> unfortunately most tablets are android based and you can't just install linux - it has to be through flashing and roms and all that
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: maybe a good idea to ask the #i3 guys first how touch support is like from there
[02:27] <swalladge> touch support isn't the problem ;) i want to get a base system installed first
[02:27] <swalladge> i've heard micro$oft tablets can have linux installed...
[02:27] <swalladge> hmm
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: yes, most tablets that have win8 on them, ubuntu-desktop can probaly install too
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: 16.04 will be very interesting mixing unity7 and unity8
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: so on a regular tablet, you will have the ubuntu-touch feeling with unity8
[02:30] <swalladge> so what i'm still not sure about - when you plug in an external monitor to an ubuntu-touch phone, and it becomes that full desktop, can you then use/install desktop apps? or is it still limited to the qml android
[02:30] <swalladge> -like apps?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: didnt test convergence myself yet
[02:31] <swalladge> maybe i should just get myself a ubuntu phone/tablet and see how it gois
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> swalladge:  i have the Bq 4.5 phone and a nexus7 tablet both running touch
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: but the new m10 tablet from bq might rocknroll :p
[02:32] <swalladge> :)
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: i tested unity8 on my ubuntu-desktop pc already and lookin neat
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> swalladge: so now its wait for final to see what it will bring us
[03:45] <p1und3r> hello all, i am curious if it is possible to use ubuntu sdk to develop cross platform for ubuntu touch/ios/android all from the re-branded qtcreator called "Ubuntu SDK"
[04:29] <lpotter> you might have to manually add the android/ios kits/compilers
[04:37] <p1und3r> lpotter: ok ty
[06:55] <mike00> hi
[08:10] <MasseR> Hey, I was trying to build some of the ubuntu-touch applications (namely ureader), but they seem to use QtQuick 2.4, but ubuntu-sdk installs QtQuick 2.0. I'm on 14.04. I found ubuntu-sdk-api-15.04-* from the same ppa, which seemed promising, but at least just installing them didn't seem to help
[08:28] <MasseR> So.. it seems to do something with schroot. I tried entering the click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-i386 chroot to find ubuntu-sdk is not installed there (not sure if it is even supposed to), nor can I install it there because 404 not found on some packages
[08:32] <MasseR> nevermind on the 404, some hitch with internet
[08:32] <mariogrip> Why haven't i found this before, this is gold! https://uappexplorer.com/app/blamepopey.nskaggs popey
[08:34] <mariogrip> popey: also, great wifi names you got there :P https://youtu.be/WD_MrQAvAvY?t=42m4s
[08:35] <popey> :)
[08:35] <popey> the rude one isnt mine!
[08:35] <mariogrip> lol :P
[08:38] <mariogrip> popey: do you have a link to the screencast script (there was no link on youtube)
[08:47] <popey> mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15558153/
[08:48] <mariogrip> popey: thanks :)
[08:48] <popey> np
[09:22] <MasseR> Also, I have a feeling that the html5-youtube (webapp or browser) doesn't use as high quality as it could
[10:57] <MasseR> Got ubuntu-sdk with click somehow installed. It now generates projects with QtQuick 2.4, but complains about not having 2.4 installed when trying to run. If I try to select one of the 15.04 environments, it complains about device not existing. If I try to create a device it waits a bit and then does 'nothing'
[11:13] <Moe> hey everyone
[11:13] <Moe> I was wondering .. does anybody know what type of bluetooth keyboard and mouse are used for the Ubuntu tablet presentation on ubuntu.com/tablet ?
[11:29] <popey> Moe: looks like http://www.amazon.co.uk/OMOTON-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Devices/dp/B019O1WSL4 to me
[11:32] <MasseR> Now ubuntu-sdk has been creating an emulator for something like 30 minutes
[11:38] <MasseR> as much as I want to like ubuntu on a tablet/phone, this just seems .. broken
[11:42] <MasseR> Wish it at least logged something somewhere
[11:46] <MasseR> And I'm pretty sure it isn't doing anything
[11:46] <MasseR> qtcreator has negligible cpu usage, there is next to none io-traffic on hard drives
[11:47] <MasseR> yeah ... not sure what to try next
[11:51] <MasseR> Where does it try to save the emulators?
[11:52] <MasseR> oh well .. fudge
[11:52] <MasseR> I opened ubuntu-sdk from terminal
[11:52] <MasseR> and it tried asking me for a password in the terminal
[11:52] <MasseR> now it's doing something
[11:53] <Moe> popey: I see .. it doesn't seem to be the same model though, the keys are different
[12:04] <popey> Moe: tbh you could use any generic bluetooth keyboard really
[12:04] <Moe> Sure, of course .. I was just wondering about the brand/model of the devices shown in the ad
[12:05] <popey> ah okay
[12:05] <popey> it looks _very_ similar to the one I linked to
[12:05] <popey> perhaps it's just an older / newer model
[12:06] <popey> there's a bunch on amazon
[12:11] <jgdx> timp, hey, I'm seeing a crash pressing the back button of a PageHeader that doesn't specify leadingActions. I'm a bit baffled by it
[12:14] <Moe> popey: True, I think it'd do just fine .. I was just curious
[12:15] <Moe> The mouse I have found under a different brand name already ..
[12:24] <timp> jgdx: do you have a log of the crash?
[12:24] <timp> jgdx: are you using AdaptivePageLayout?
[12:25] <Moe> popey: Also, I would've expected Ubuntu to kind of "endorse" a brand for accessories (at least for the very beginning), but to no avail
[12:27]  * ogra_ guesses the logitech k480 would be among them :)
[12:27] <Moe> It's said be pretty good, you're right
[12:27] <Moe> The K810 is impressive as well
[12:28] <jgdx> timp, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15559131/ and no, but it's really specific. Only happens when I'm using a Page from another plugin which then defines header: PageHeader { title: i18n.dtr("local-domain", "string") }
[12:29] <timp> jgdx: where does the back button come from?
[12:29] <timp> it should come from a PageStack or AdaptivePageLayout
[12:30] <jgdx> timp, the page is pushed onto a PageStack, but I'm not defining any back button explicitly
[12:33] <timp> jgdx: does your app have a BottomEdge?
[12:34] <jgdx> timp, no
[12:34] <timp> jgdx: ok. I have a meeting now but I'll have a look at your pastebin when it is done.
[12:35] <jgdx> timp, cheers
[12:59] <timp> jgdx: I haven't seen that before
[12:59] <timp> jgdx: what's on  /home/jonas/Work/Canonical/SystemSettings/wd/src/main.cpp line 100?
[13:00] <jgdx> timp, app.exec()
[13:01] <jgdx> maybe there's an ownership issue here since it requires a page from an import
[13:01] <timp> jgdx: do you think it is possible to create a small test program to reproduce the crash?
[13:01] <jgdx> timp, yeah, I think so
[13:02] <timp> jgdx: ok, that would be great
[13:02] <timp> jgdx: if you can report a bug and attach the test program, I'll have a look at that
[13:28] <kenvandine> Mirv, i have a question about QStorageInfo::mountedVolumes on the device
[13:28] <kenvandine> on the device it returns much more than mounted volumes, i think it's returning every directory
[13:28] <kenvandine> or maybe even file, on krillin it returns 4900
[13:29] <kenvandine> on the desktop it actually only returns mounted file systems
[13:29] <kenvandine> Mirv, is there something in our QPA plugin that affects this?
[13:29] <kenvandine> Mirv, and if so, do you know what source i should look at?
[13:44] <Mirv> kenvandine: our plugins are qtmir and qtubuntu, but no I don't think they have anything that could affect it. I thought u-s-s was successfully using mountedVolumes before though? https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-storage-page/+merge/250119
[13:45] <Mirv> it comes from http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/plain/src/corelib/io/qstorageinfo_unix.cpp?h=5.4
[13:50] <jgdx> timp, sure, not sure when though. Thanks
[13:54] <kenvandine> Mirv, we are using it, but it's really slow
[13:55] <kenvandine> because mountedVolumes returns 4900 volumes that we have to iterate over
[13:57] <kenvandine> Mirv, i had looked at that, and it doesn't make sense to me that it would behave differently on the device
[13:59] <kenvandine> Mirv, /etc/mtab has 76 lines but mountedVolumes is returning 4900... something's wrong :)
[14:07] <MasseR> ~7h on and off testing of the sdk. So far I've gotten emulator running but no software on it
[14:39] <tathhu> 
[14:39] <tathhu> woops
[14:46] <touchy> hi....
[14:46] <touchy> can't seem to find any answers on google xda-developers or youtube....
[14:46] <touchy> is there a more recent build for Ubuntu Phone  for Nexus 5?
[14:47] <ogra_> ubports.com should have the last ... you want the rc-proposed channel for the very latest
[14:49] <touchy> i'm annoyed with android actually
[14:50] <touchy> saw a youtube review of Ubuntu Phone 16 for nexus 5..... loved the fact that it had a full core ubuntu with apt
[14:50] <touchy> :)
[14:50] <mcphail> touchy: using apt isn't encouraged or supported on the phone
[14:51] <touchy> why not
[14:51] <touchy> i need to use the command line a lot
[14:52] <mcphail> touchy: different way of doing things, so the phone can get well tested OTA updates. You can use command line tools, but are encouraged to install extra apps in a chroot on the device
[14:53] <touchy> would be great to have telegram messenger on it :)
[14:54] <mcphail> touchy: there is a telegram app installed by default. I don't use it, so no idea if it works
[14:55] <touchy> well, i shall let you all know :)
[14:56] <V99> 6:50  touchy saw a youtube review of Ubuntu Phone 16 for nexus 5..... loved the fact that it had a full core ubuntu with apt
[14:56] <V99> 16:50  touchy :)
[14:56] <V99> 6:50  touchy saw a youtube review of Ubuntu Phone 16 for nexus 5..... loved the fact that it had a full core ubuntu with apt
[14:56] <V99> 16:50  touchy :)
[14:56] <V99> where is the video?
[14:56] <touchy> you want me to search youtube for you for  "nexus 5 ubuntu phone" ?
[14:57] <touchy> :P
[14:57] <touchy> https://devices.ubports.com/#/hammerhead
[14:58] <touchy> looking on the hardware list there of things working and not working..... see no mention of NFC
[14:58] <touchy> that's odd
[14:58] <ogra_> there would be no API on the ubuntu side, even if the HW worked
[14:59] <touchy> why not?
[14:59] <ogra_> because it isnt implemented in the ubuntu SDK yet
[14:59] <touchy> it should be
[14:59] <touchy> lol
[14:59] <ogra_> well, patches accepted
[15:00] <ogra_> dont hold back ;)
[15:00] <touchy> i don't do low-level stuff unless it's on ATmel architecture ...
[15:00] <touchy> :P
[15:00] <SnoopyDoge> hi everyone, just flashed ubuntu-touch dev version (newest) to my oneplus one with multirom, but when i try to boot to it, it just give me oneplus logo and nothing happens, little while later brings back to multirom boot-option.
[15:00] <touchy> call me picky ^__^
[15:00] <touchy> that means your flash failed
[15:00] <ogra_> SnoopyDoge, dont use devel ... it isnt supposed to be booting or working or anything
[15:00] <touchy> something went wrong
[15:00] <SnoopyDoge> oh
[15:00] <ogra_> SnoopyDoge, you want rc-proposed ... thats the actual devel channel
[15:01] <SnoopyDoge> and that suppose to work? rc-prposed?
[15:01] <ogra_> yes
[15:02] <ogra_> thats the daily build that becomes "stable" after QA tested it
[15:02] <SnoopyDoge> ogra_ okay, ill try newe install :)
[15:02] <ogra_> (you can indeed alos just go for the stable channel if you prefer ... just dont use anything with devel in the name )
[15:03] <dobey> problems with multirom are probably more related to the version of android you have
[15:03] <dobey> touchy: you don't want to make / writable and use apt though, if that's what you're doing
[15:04] <dobey> touchy: and telegram is in the app store. just install it
[15:04] <touchy> actually, there is some software that i need to use on my phone ..as i use it daily ....
[15:05] <touchy> Sqlmap, and Nmap
[15:05] <dobey> touchy: if you need to install things via apt, use a chroot
[15:05] <dobey> touchy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311
[15:07] <botus> hi there. is it possible to install ubuntu touch on a laptop with touch and work from there?
[15:08] <touchy> it should be
[15:10] <botus> i think so to. but do you know if it is a way alrady or do i need to reinvent the wheel? x)
[15:10] <touchy> grab the sources ...compile on an X64 system...
[15:10] <touchy> :)
[15:13] <SnoopyDoge> ogra_: that rc-propoced didn't work neither, is it so that multirom and ubuntu touch doesn't work if you have android 6.0.1 (CM13 stable edition)
[15:13] <dobey> botus: not exactly
[15:13] <touchy> have you tried not using multirom ?
[15:14] <mcphail> botus: you can install unity8 on a laptop, which will have a similar feel to ubuntu on a phone or tablet. But it isn't so simple to get a full "ubuntu touch" installation
[15:14] <dobey> SnoopyDoge: yes, android 6 made some things more incompatible
[15:15] <SnoopyDoge> dobey, okay, i wait a little and try again later when it's more stable with android 6.0
[15:15] <dobey> SnoopyDoge: or just go ubuntu only :)
[15:16] <SnoopyDoge> dobey no, i want primary rom to be stable, and i read that ubuntu is not fully stable with oneplus one
[15:17] <dobey> SnoopyDoge: how are you defining stable? afaik it is stable on opo, there is just some bits which don't work work fully, like on nexus 5
[15:18] <touchy> stable as in...   bipolar ;)
[15:18] <dobey> i've been using only ubuntu on my nexus 5 for like 2 years
[15:18] <SnoopyDoge> hmm, headphones don't work, bluethoot doesn't work, camera doesn't work?
[15:19] <touchy> maybe the instability is due to the oneplus phone having a chinese backdoored  GSM firmware
[15:20] <dobey> oh, i didn't realize headphones didn't work
[15:21] <SnoopyDoge> ubports wiki says so
[15:21] <dobey> ok
[15:21] <SnoopyDoge> how about applications to ubuntu touch?
[15:21] <touchy> and george bush said : "read my lips"
[15:21] <touchy> HAHA :P
[15:22] <SnoopyDoge> is there many?
[15:22] <dobey> sure there are many apps
[15:22] <dobey> whether they are the ones you want though, i can't answer
[15:22] <SnoopyDoge> i mean like facebook, whatsapp,  9gag etc etc
[15:22] <SnoopyDoge> "normal" apps
[15:22] <dobey> no whatsapp
[15:23] <SnoopyDoge> big minus :(
[15:23] <dobey> what's normal for you isn't normal for everyone
[15:23] <dobey> i don't use any of those, for example
[15:23]  * ogra_ neither
[15:23] <SnoopyDoge> i use, thats why asking ^^
[15:23] <touchy> i prefer a phone with a removed GSM firmware
[15:24] <dobey> touchy: so don't buy a phone then
[15:24] <ogra_> you prefer a phone that cant do calls ?
[15:24] <dobey> or data
[15:24] <ogra_> get a very small tablet then :)
[15:24] <touchy> i didn't say data
[15:24] <SnoopyDoge> that is the most reason why i want primary rom to be android, and stable
[15:24] <dobey> yes you did
[15:24] <touchy> wifi + bluetooth
[15:24] <touchy> i said a removed GSM firmware
[15:24] <dobey> lol, because those chips didn't come from china, but the rest of the SoC did?
[15:25] <dobey> anyway, whatever, time to get lunch
[15:26] <touchy> having a physical proxy between the GSM network and your device is the best way to keep a lot of phones from being backdoored within the first 2 minutes on a GSM network
[15:26] <touchy> i have a 4G pocket router that i use for that purpose
[15:28] <touchy> even if the pocket router gets exploited, the only weird way to exploit the phone would be through OOB (out of band) wifi (aka low-level) attacks
[15:29]  * ogra_ wonders what anyone would gain backdooring via GSM into an ubuntu phone ... given the drivers are totally sandboxed
[15:29] <ogra_> all you could do is look around inside that container ... wouldnt gaet you any user related bits ...
[15:30] <ogra_> *get
[15:30] <touchy> LOL
[15:30] <touchy> we're from two very different wrolds
[15:31] <touchy> GSM radio runs with root access
[15:31] <ogra_> dunno, i was serious, what would such a backdoor gain you ?
[15:31] <touchy> it's not usermode
[15:31] <ogra_> yeah
[15:31] <touchy> ah..well..
[15:31] <ogra_> root of a container that has about 100MB of binaires and no users
[15:32] <touchy> depends on which apps you use and what websites you visit i suppose....and your location
[15:32] <ogra_> there is no way for you to get to any user data outside of the container
[15:32] <touchy> allthat fun stuff that turns the smartphone into a fun spy device
[15:32] <ogra_> and no, you wont find a way to do it through apps since you cant even see any apps from the container
[15:32] <touchy> not sure exactly how the RIL is setup in ubuntu phone
[15:33] <touchy> but since it uses an android kernel (or so i read) ...there are bad things that can happen
[15:33] <ogra_> and even if you could the ubuntu security conceopt would only get you into another "container" (the confined app space) which only allows you to see data of the app but nothing else
[15:33] <ogra_> this isnt android ...
[15:33] <touchy> as far as i know the GSM modem runs in Kernel Mode
[15:33] <ogra_> fine for it
[15:33] <ogra_> you still wont access anything from it
[15:34] <touchy> anything with kernel mode access can access everything. this is my point
[15:34] <touchy> from a low level , obviously
[15:34] <ogra_> not really, unless you overcome apparmor and seccomp
[15:35] <ogra_> you would need a very very buggy kernel for that ...
[15:35] <touchy> stranger things have happened
[15:35] <touchy> :P
[15:35] <ogra_> (and the ubuntu phone kernel is properly maintained ...)
[15:35] <touchy> like apple's encryption being subverted this week... LOL
[15:35] <ogra_> (including regular security reviews)
[15:36] <touchy> that's good to hear :)
[15:37] <ogra_> and while it is based on an android source tree (it has to because there are binary drivers) it is in no way comparable to the binary android kernel the device would be shipping with when running android
[15:38] <Silver^> Hi there, Was wondering if someone could tell me the diffrence between Aquarius M10 FHD vs Aquarius M10 HD, cant compare them on the store site, Also do you know if MediaTek released sources for their MT8163A, they been very bad complying with GPL licenses previously
[15:38] <touchy> so... monitor mode on the BCM wifi chipset should actually work?
[15:39] <ogra_> Silver^, well, obviously one does 1080p and the other does 720p ... the 1080p has a slightly higher clocked SoC
[15:39] <ogra_> (this is where my knowledge ends though :) )
[15:40] <touchy> i like to be aware when some random skiddy is sending  Deauth packets or Deauth Broadcast packets on wifi
[15:40] <touchy> lol
[15:45] <touchy> btw, has anyone tried ubuntu phone on a Nexus 5?
[15:46] <Silver^> touchy: yes, quite long ago tho
[15:49] <MasseR> Damn, disappointed that gps doesnt work on nexus 7
[15:51] <touchy> btw, another interesting thing is i currently live in china...
[15:51] <touchy> so when china's 0day payloads stop working... apparently they have scripts that keep trying them
[15:51] <touchy> lol
[15:53] <touchy> they still don't work...
[15:53] <touchy> but it drains the battery pretty quick
[16:14] <MasseR> Oh yeah, forgot to ask. Are you supposed to be able to rotate to portrait mode on the home screen and/or lock screen?
[16:20] <pmcgowan> MasseR, nope
[16:20] <MasseR> ah ok
[16:24] <Guest18280> Hi all, I have a BQ Aquarius 4.5 and am loving it... However, im desperately trying to find a way to update the hosts file on it using the method described here : http://www.putorius.net/2012/01/block-unwanted-advertisements-on.html im trying it on desktop ubuntu first but it doesnt seem to be working, where could I go to suggest the development of an app or script be developed to do this as my linux knowledge is too
[16:24] <Guest18280>  poor at the moment to figure out myself
[17:27] <sakrecoer> i hade this funky idea for an application. maybe it exists?i'll just put it out here since i lack most of knowledge riquired to do it...
[17:28] <sakrecoer> a ehm.. freestagram, adressed to people who run a server/VPS.
[17:28] <sakrecoer> basically, you share a photo to the app, and the app generates an html page for the photo, updates an index.html and an rss of all photos while integrating an RSS reader.
[17:28] <sakrecoer> and uploads everything to the given folder with scp...
[17:37] <mariogrip> mhall119: ping?
[17:50] <MasseR> damn, can't get the emulator to start on my home system at all now :/
[17:50] <MasseR> failed to start user service: unknown unit: user@32011.service
[17:53] <dobey> mariogrip: oh, do you know what change is needed for the new installer splash? on my nexus5 it still has the old installer splash when flashing rc-proposed
[17:54] <mariogrip> dobey: installer splash?
[17:54] <mariogrip> do you mean the first time setup thing?
[17:55] <mariogrip> if yes, isn't that just in xenial atm?
[17:55] <dobey> mariogrip: yeah. on my mako it is the same as the bootsplash but with a progress bar instead of dots now. but on my n5 it's still the old spinny thing
[17:55] <dobey> mariogrip: no, it's on rc-proposed
[17:55] <dobey> mariogrip: afaik, there's nothing specific to xenial, other than a lack of testing
[17:55] <mariogrip> oh, on the recovery?
[17:55] <dobey> and most things not working
[17:55] <dobey> i guess
[17:56] <dobey> i don't know enough technically about it
[17:56] <mariogrip> I haven't updated that, i need to do that manually
[17:56] <dobey> ah ok
[17:57] <dobey> would be nice to have that done before the ota10 image is released, so people on ubports phones get it too :)
[17:57] <mariogrip> dobey: jup, will add to my todo list
[17:58] <dobey> mariogrip: awesome, thanks :)
[17:59] <mariogrip> dobey: I thought you was thinking about this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Convergence.jpg and i think that's only on xenial if im not wrong
[17:59] <mariogrip> mhall119: have you forgot me?
[17:59] <dobey> mariogrip: no, that's the first setup wizard i guess, and it wouldn't be only on xenial either
[18:00] <mariogrip> oh ok
[18:01] <dobey> mariogrip: i'm talking about the first screen you see immediately after the first reboot immediately after flashing a new image
[18:01] <dobey> the one right after the google logo
[18:02] <mariogrip> dobey: yeah, that's the recovery
[18:02] <dobey> the rotating ubuntu logo
[18:02] <dobey> ok
[18:05] <mhall119> mariogrip: sorry, got carried away with lunch
[18:06] <mhall119> mariogrip: do we have anything new to talk about? I still don't have the new device, have you made any progress with yours?
[18:06] <mariogrip> mhall119: did you talk with the fp devs about a call=
[18:06] <mariogrip> im in the chat if u want to join
[18:28] <MasseR> Alright, let's do another clean install and see if it hels
[18:39] <MasseR> ohhh.. a little bit more success. Still errors in the log, but at least I'm getting the ubuntu touch dots on the emulator
[18:47] <MasseR> This is slower than before.. I wonder if it's using qemu instead of kvm on the background
[18:51] <dobey> are you not using the x86 image?
[19:01] <MasseR> Yeah. But I hadn't enabled virtualization from bios.
[19:03] <MasseR> Only one of my dozens of problems with ubuntu-sdk today :)
[19:29] <MasseR> Assuming I'm creating a software of some kind. I would like to test it by myself before. I can start the application from ubuntu-sdk, but can I somehow install it to the device?
[19:31] <dobey> if the device is registered in the sdk, there is a "Deploy to device" feature
[19:37] <MasseR> let's see, where's my usb cablse
[19:43] <MasseR> hah, success
[19:45] <MasseR> thank you
[19:54] <MasseR> I'm using ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework, straight from 'create new project'
[19:54] <MasseR> If I try to run it in the emulator, I get 'Module "Ubuntu.Components" version 1.3 is not installed'
[19:55] <pmcgowan> 1.3 is in the latest 15.04.4 framework
[19:55] <pmcgowan> not sure if thats the issue
[19:56] <pmcgowan> there is also the #ubuntu-app-devel channel but its a bit quiet right now MasseR
[19:56] <MasseR> is it packaged inside the click target (as in the application should be self-contained), or does it have to exist in the channel
[19:58] <pmcgowan> its on the image
[19:58] <pmcgowan> not in the click
[19:58] <MasseR> thanks