[01:06] <bluesabre> Unit193: great! I'll test that out in a vm and give you the go ahead once I have it :)
[01:18] <bluesabre> vm's gotta update, this might take a while
[01:34] <bluesabre> Unit193: looks good to me, might want to make it close that bug while you're at it
[01:48] <Unit193> Mmmmm, right.
[01:57] <bluesabre> found the bug flocculant was having in mugshot
[01:57] <bluesabre> :D
[01:58] <bluesabre> (stupid typo by me)
[01:59] <Unit193> Hah, niiice.  And sure, will upload now.
[02:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: thanks!
[02:02] <bluesabre> (grabbed an extra comma with the split, making home phone always edited https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mugshot-dev/mugshot/trunk/revision/209)
[02:10] <Unit193> bluesabre: How's your MOTU application going?
[02:32] <bluesabre> Unit193: it's not currently
[02:32] <Unit193> :(
[02:32] <bluesabre> haven't had much time to work on it
[02:32] <bluesabre> mainly been doing bug fixes, research, or sleeping
[02:33] <bluesabre> Unit193: good work on the xfwm upload
[02:34] <Unit193> Sure.
[02:52] <bluesabre> flocculant: uploaded a new, fixed mugshot to -staging
[02:53] <bluesabre> flocculant: think I have a fix for blueman, I might upload it tonight if I can get a preliminary test in
[02:53] <bluesabre> its not a great fix, but likely acceptable
[03:03] <bluesabre> flocculant: patched blueman also uploaded to -staging - if we could get some 32/64 testing with/without bluetooth hardware, we can confirm the patch and propose it for ubuntu
[03:04] <bluesabre> flocculant: with your approval on mugshot, I'll do a new release and start the upload process tomorrow... next up, catfish fix for UTC
[03:04] <bluesabre> but now its bed time
[03:04] <bluesabre> night all
[04:32] <dkessel> Can anyone fix the typo in the clementine article? "and and run => "and runs"
[06:34] <flocculant> dkessel knome : fixed that typo
[06:34] <Unit193> \o/
[06:35] <flocculant> morning Unit193 :)
[06:46] <flocculant> bluesabre: mugshot in normal user - can change face without issue, changing phone number requires password which fails
[06:51] <flocculant> added blueman to this install - not seen it pop up yet - but yesterday it appeared that 64bit was no longer seeing it anyway
[06:51] <Unit193> In case you didn't see, "new" xfwm.
[06:52] <flocculant> added your new one to 32bit vm
[06:52] <flocculant> restarted the vm - got the blueman crash there
[06:53] <flocculant> Unit193: yea I saw it ^^ then I saw it in updates as well :)
[06:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: I've not got 32bit hardware to test that on - at least not quickly, can look when I'm back from work
[07:23] <flocculant> bluesabre: 32 bit then - forgot it only takes a couple of mins to install on ssd - installed - got the bm crash - updated to ppa version, rebooted - left it for 10 minutes - no crash
[07:23] <flocculant> can't confirm 64 bit anywhere - as it's disappeared there
[07:26] <flocculant> on another note - don't believe Software when it says it's installed a package ... seems not
[07:30] <flocculant> 32bit vm left with new version - not crashing 
[09:39] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, Can confirm that the Blueman error still affects the 32bit image
[09:45] <bluesabre> flocculant: so 32bit... crash or no crash (confused)
[09:46] <bluesabre> flocculant: phone numbers, probably the only thing I can do there is disable those when a user is not in sudoers... but I'll try a few things and disable them if not possible
[09:47] <bluesabre> (since it sounds like everything else should be good now)
[09:47] <bluesabre> ah
[09:47] <bluesabre> I see akxwi-dave's comment now
[09:48] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[09:48] <bluesabre> flocculant, akxwi-dave: is it the same crash (Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out)?
[09:48] <akxwi-dave> give me 2 mins.. I'll restart the VM.. testing it as we speak
[09:48] <bluesabre> akxwi-dave: thanks!
[09:52] <akxwi-dave> bluesabre, yep   thats the error
[09:53] <bluesabre> akxwi-dave: thanks, I'll take a closer look tonight
[10:57] <knome> dkessel, and nuns tooo
[10:57] <Unit193> gtk+3.0 3.20.1-1 just hit experimental.
[11:04] <krytarik> bluesabre: Just "details = line.split(':')[4].split(',')" seems to be the proper way there though?
[11:06] <bluesabre> krytarik: possibly, but for some reason I was forcing it down before .split(',', 3) so I just did that a bit better
[11:06] <bluesabre> ah
[11:06] <bluesabre> but by doing that, I drop home phone alltogether
[11:07] <krytarik> Yep.
[11:07] <bluesabre> lovely
[11:07] <bluesabre> thanks for catching that
[11:07] <knome> what's home phone?
[11:07] <knome> :P
[11:07] <krytarik> Sure.
[11:07] <bluesabre> null
[11:08] <bluesabre> krytarik: fix pushed
[11:11] <bluesabre> eh
[11:11] <bluesabre> diverged
[11:11] <bluesabre> :D
[11:11] <knome> haha
[11:17] <bluesabre> krytarik: now its pushed :D
[11:19] <krytarik> Yep, noticed. \o/
[11:26] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, i already received a bugreport against greybird (for not supporting 3.20 yet) a few weeks ago. so this'll soon be even more fun
[11:28] <knome> ochosi, should i file you a bug saying greybird doesn't support 3.22 yet?!
[11:30] <flocculant> bluesabre: with the NEW package from staging > NO crash - sorry for confusion - I ended up with enough time before work
[11:32]  * flocculant reports that greybird doesn't support flocculant and he has to work for money 
[11:32] <knome> :(
[11:33] <bluesabre> :(
[11:34] <flocculant> bluesabre: but blueman news is good :p
[11:35] <bluesabre> flocculant: yes, except it still crashes for akxwi-dave, so I'll be poking it more later
[11:36] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: you get fails using the staging version? 
[11:36] <flocculant> reads to me like he's talking about the image - which still fails 
[11:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: ^^
[11:38] <bluesabre> it *shouldn't* crash, at least not with that error, so the patch catches that error and basically ignores it
[11:38] <bluesabre> s/so/since
[11:39] <flocculant> bluesabre: are you saying that the iso version shouldn't crash? 
[11:39] <flocculant> well - when I say crash I mean apport gets called
[11:42] <bluesabre> flocculant: no, the -staging version should not crash
[11:42] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging
[11:42] <bluesabre> flocculant, akxwi-dave: ^ :)
[11:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - so this got very confusing 
[11:44] <flocculant> I have the error with the iso - if I grab staging and install that I don't have the error
[11:44] <flocculant> I installed 32bit on hardware - grabbed staging - I don't have the error
[11:44] <flocculant> all we need is for akxwi-dave to confirm that he's JUST looking at the iso version
[11:49] <bluesabre> flocculant: ok good :)
[11:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: though I am making the assumption that installing the fixed version on live then logging out, in and restarting bluetooth should trigger the isse
[11:50] <bluesabre> things in this channel have been more on the confusing/edgy side lately
[11:50] <bluesabre> but I'm glad we're clear on this topic :D
[11:51] <flocculant> yea - I really should wait till the afternoon before I do these things ... but I like to get them done earlier enough for you to see some sort of response asap
[11:52] <flocculant> and tbh - getting this fixed makes the boot the live *look* better than with a bug showing all the time :)
[11:54] <bluesabre> flocculant: that should trigger the issue, also installing the fixed version, rebooting, and logging in should trigger the issue
[11:55] <flocculant> now I'm really confused :(
[11:56] <flocculant> reboot a vm from the live and you're back where you started
[11:56] <bluesabre> right
[11:56] <bluesabre> ammended:
[11:56] <bluesabre> install the vm, reboot, see bug, install fixed package, reboot, see no bug
[11:57] <flocculant> oh right
[11:57]  * bluesabre is confusing today
[11:57] <flocculant> that makes sense - I can do that later - but I did do that on hardware and that works fine
[11:57]  * bluesabre will wear headphones and avoid people at work today
[11:58] <knome> hah
[11:58] <flocculant> unless you're just wanting to confirm the fix in virtual as well as hardware - which is fine by me
[11:58] <flocculant> hey knome 
[11:58] <knome> hello flocculant 
[11:58] <knome> (again)
[11:59]  * flocculant tried headphones at work once - didn't hear the fire engine right behind me :p
[11:59] <flocculant> talking of which - toodle pip :)
[11:59] <knome> hah
[11:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: if you want vm  install fix confirmation - let me and akxwi-dave know and the first one to it will :)
[11:59] <knome> i was told that the baby screamed very loud this morning at 6am
[11:59] <knome> right next to me
[11:59] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:59] <knome> but i didn't wake up...
[12:00] <knome> no headphones whatsoever
[12:00] <flocculant> or should that be 
[12:00] <flocculant> HA HA HA 
[12:00] <bluesabre> flocculant: actually testing it myself right now
[12:00] <flocculant> knome: you're doing that right - second lesson in fatherhood - don't hear the baby :p
[12:00] <flocculant> bluesabre: okey doke - have a good day with the 'phones on :p
[12:02] <akxwi-dave> sorry back from Lunch..... yes it was Just The ISO i was looking at
[12:02] <knome> flocculant, did you allow akxwi-dave lunch breaks already?
[12:02] <knome> lazy leading
[12:02] <akxwi-dave> sneeked out when he wasn't looking
[12:04] <bluesabre> seems fixed for me in an installed 32bit xenial vm
[12:04] <bluesabre> time for work, bbl
[12:04] <akxwi-dave> cya.. just testing todays now as well
[12:13] <akxwi-dave> http://i.imgur.com/JUDhjls.png  this is from todays ISO image.. plain live iso session
[12:14] <akxwi-dave> 32bit that is
[16:09] <flocculant> knome: see he admitted sneeking off
[16:47] <dkessel> meh. typo fixes in the docs last week? *sigh*
[16:47] <dkessel> oh well - still more complete than finnish :p
[16:50] <dkessel> ... or not? what page have i just looked at? i need to get away from the screen
[18:03] <knome> flocculant, yep...
[18:03] <knome> dkessel, i haven't translated the contributor docs at all, so maybe that's the difference :)
[18:08] <flocculant> knome: evening :)
[18:10] <flocculant> I'm going to add video of running on the spot while testing an installed version and running a vm of daily to http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-team.html
[18:10] <flocculant> then leave :p
[18:10] <knome> huh
[18:11] <flocculant> to deal with the sneaking off 
[18:11] <knome> :P
[18:11] <flocculant> "this is what we need" 
[18:14] <flocculant> hoping to get ochosi do that with 32 bit 
[18:41] <ochosi> flocculant: do what with 32 bit?
[19:04] <flocculant> a "video of running on the spot while testing an installed version and running a vm of daily "
[19:42] <Noskcaj> Is anyone able to test if https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=812804 affects xenial?
[19:44] <flocculant> Noskcaj: not seen any references to that issue
[19:46] <Noskcaj> flocculant, neither, but i don't see why it would work in ubuntu but not debian
[19:46] <flocculant> even so
[19:47] <flocculant> are we going to drag around various bug trackers looking for things that *might* affect us? 
[19:48] <Noskcaj> I just noticed a merge i had my name on, it's bugfix only, so if there's a reason to merge it i'd like to.
[19:49] <flocculant> talk to bluesabre perhaps
[19:51] <flocculant> would be better to see if anyone is actually being affected 
[21:54] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:05] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:06] <bluesabre> hey Unit193
[22:10]  * bluesabre totally thinks we should have screenshots on our blog posts
[22:10] <Unit193> Ooooh!  You going to shoot some?
[22:12] <bluesabre> I'd be in favor of taking screenshots of having text-only blog posts when talking about "the small details"
[22:13] <bluesabre> supposed to be an "instead" in there somewhere :D
[22:15] <bluesabre> after idling for half a day, my patched blueman is not running away with memory in a 32bit vm, so that seems acceptable
[23:15] <knome> bluesabre, i'm happy to do those, and even edit already published posts
[23:16] <knome> bluesabre, but i don't think my time/motivation can stretch to take the screenshots myself
[23:26] <bluesabre> knome: happy to help out :)
[23:27] <knome> also, we're publishing the menu editing article on friday, maybe you want to see if it's sane at all ;)
[23:28] <bluesabre> knome: I'll see about reviewing it tonight/tomorrow
[23:28] <knome> flocculant went through it already, so it's two of us now, but more eyes never hurt, especially from the app author
[23:28] <knome> (maybe you want to highlight something that's less known) 
[23:30] <bluesabre> ok
[23:38] <bluesabre> alrighty, think I'll upload my blueman fix now
[23:49] <bluesabre> oh
[23:49] <bluesabre> new blueman in the archive
[23:49] <bluesabre> uploaded 2 hours ago
[23:50] <knome> :)
[23:50] <bluesabre> flocculant, we'll need to check that I suppose before I try adding a patch
[23:50] <bluesabre> going to review it myself a bit tonight
[23:50] <knome> allright, going to bed
[23:50] <knome> good night and ttyl :)
[23:51] <bluesabre> nighty knome