| raul_ | Hola | 08:14 |
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| raul_ | Hello | 08:14 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| RoadRunner | keyboard layout question: my xubuntu before login shows a "en-CA" layout in panel but when I go into Keyboard layout this option isn't even in the list: only English (UK) and English (US). How/where do I fish en_CA out of? | 20:44 |
| RoadRunner | anybody around? | 22:52 |
| xubuntu77w | Hello everyone -- is the software center being replaced in the new LTS release? | 23:03 |
| xangua | Replaced with what? | 23:04 |
| xubuntu77w | gnome software center | 23:04 |
| xubuntu77w | I'm reffering to this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3017152/linux/ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-dump-the-ubuntu-software-center-for-gnome-software.html | 23:05 |
| pleia2 | yes | 23:06 |
| xubuntu77w | Thanks | 23:06 |
| pleia2 | the beta images released on thursday have it | 23:06 |
| xubuntu77w | Now, is it the case that all changes to Ubuntu' | 23:06 |
| xubuntu77w | carry over to the derivative distros? | 23:06 |
| xangua | If you mean Xubuntu, that would imply it ships with more gnome dependencies | 23:06 |
| xubuntu77w | Yes | 23:07 |
| xubuntu77w | So the developers of Xubuntu essentially make interface changes to the Ubuntu releases by applying the XFCE environment? | 23:08 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu77w: each flavor makes their own decision, we decided to use gnome software | 23:08 |
| xubuntu77w | I see | 23:08 |
| pleia2 | interface, themes, different default packages, a lot goes into making an alternate flavor | 23:08 |
| xubuntu77w | Right, I understand that its much more complex than simply applying a new interface | 23:09 |
| xubuntu77w | Though I'm not very knowledgable about how that is done, as I am a very basic user | 23:09 |
| xubuntu77w | Thanks for the info | 23:10 |
| pleia2 | you're welcome | 23:10 |
| === bazhang__ is now known as bazhang | ||
| xubuntu77w | Very excited about the new release. Would it be not smart to download the current beta release? | 23:11 |
| xubuntu77w | Or would you say it's stable enough | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu77w: you'll want to read the release announcement so you're aware of the known issues http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-lts-beta-2/ | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | it's beta, so if you want a stable system, you should wait until the release :) | 23:12 |
| xubuntu77w | Thanks, will do | 23:12 |
| RoadRunner | pleia2: on the subject of flavors, have you, by any chance tried and can comment on using these themes with xubuntu http://nayk1982.deviantart.com/art/Greybird-dark-xfce-485266183 http://killhellokitty.deviantart.com/art/DeLoreanDark3-10-8-05232014-408652063 | 23:12 |
| RoadRunner | ? | 23:12 |
| pleia2 | RoadRunner: I haven't | 23:13 |
| xubuntu77w | Do you guys (the developers) work in conjunction with the Xfce team? | 23:14 |
| xubuntu77w | Or is xfce indepedent of xubuntu? | 23:14 |
| pleia2 | some of the xubuntu developers are also xfce developers | 23:15 |
| pleia2 | (and not everyone on our team is a "guy") | 23:15 |
| xubuntu77w | Right, my mistake | 23:15 |
| RoadRunner | pleia2: a keyboard layout question, if I may? | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | RoadRunner: I saw your question earlier and I don't know the answer, sorry :\ | 23:17 |
| RoadRunner | np | 23:18 |
| knome | my gut feeling is that those are installed with some default package | 23:19 |
| RoadRunner | knome: not certain which? | 23:21 |
| knome | nope, but i also have a gut feeling that if you remove that, you might be in problems | 23:22 |
| RoadRunner | remove the default keyboard layout? | 23:22 |
| knome | something like that | 23:22 |
| knome | but as i said, it's my gut feeling | 23:23 |
| RoadRunner | hmm, I didn't actually remove anything in Keyboard layout choices (just added one) but the only one that was visible there was English(US). It's interesting, cause I am in Canada and somehow something new it even though its not a visible choice... | 23:25 |
| knome | RoadRunner, re: themes, the delorean one doesn't look like it supports recent gtk versions, and since the other is just a clone of greybird... | 23:28 |
| RoadRunner | I am running 14.04, which gtk version is in it? | 23:29 |
| knome | !info gtk-3.0 trusty | 23:29 |
| ubottu | libgtk-3-0-dbg (source: gtk+3.0): GTK+ libraries and debugging symbols. In component main, is extra. Version 3.10.8-0ubuntu1.6 (trusty), package size 4844 kB, installed size 16851 kB | 23:29 |
| RoadRunner | knome: as I read delorean's requirements: gtk-3.10.* is supported | 23:32 |
| RoadRunner | and one guy in comments actually says he is using it with ubuntu 14.04 | 23:33 |
| RoadRunner | also, any advice on how where I could learn how to customize greybird? | 23:35 |
| knome | ugh. | 23:35 |
| knome | well, the gtk documentation is not the best there is... | 23:35 |
| knome | and at this point, greybird is huge (and needs a SASS/sth rewrite) | 23:36 |
| RoadRunner | ok, if all I want is to have a light on dark look (reversal), are there specific areas in specific files you could just reffer me to? | 23:37 |
| knome | RoadRunner, unfortunately it isn't that trivial... | 23:39 |
| RoadRunner | it wasn't trivial under win either but I sorted it out (with some mentorship)... | 23:40 |
| knome | i guess i'm sorry to say it's likely even less trivial with gtk3 theming... | 23:41 |
| knome | this is OLD so i can't recommend it for daily usage, but https://github.com/shimmerproject/Blackbird might get you some idea of the scale of the opeartion | 23:42 |
| knome | note that greybird has been getting updates for a year longer, and even a year ago, blackbird wasn't "ready" | 23:43 |
| knome | it might get you somewhere though. | 23:44 |
| knome | and if you feel like helping out with greybird/blackbird, we do hang out on #shimmer and happily welcome new contributors | 23:44 |
| RoadRunner | so is Blackbird an attempt to go exactly in the direction I am talking about? | 23:49 |
| knome | it was/is supposed to be a dark theme with light text, yes | 23:50 |
| RoadRunner | so when you say its old, is there a newer source (as in latest code...)? | 23:51 |
| knome | greybird is "latest" | 23:51 |
| knome | blackbird is a fork of greybird | 23:51 |
| knome | and no, there is no newer code for blackbird than in that repository | 23:51 |
| knome | anyway, it's soon 3am and it's time to go to bed | 23:52 |
| knome | good night and good luck | 23:52 |
| knome | and maybe we'll see you contributing to the shimmer project :P | 23:52 |
| knome | --> | 23:52 |
| RoadRunner | thanks :) | 23:52 |
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