| === Sazpaimon is now known as Sazpaimon_ | ||
| === Sazpaimon is now known as Sazpaimon_ | ||
| dax | cfhowlett: I note that the Ubuntu on Win10 stuff is not an April Fools day thing. For one thing, it was announced two days before April 1st | 04:54 |
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| cfhowlett | ehhh, true. but msoft officially supporting ubuntu? | 04:55 |
| cfhowlett | seems ... sketchy. and MSFT has made no such announcement, right? | 04:55 |
| dax | It was announced during the Microsoft BUILD keynote | 04:56 |
| cfhowlett | !! | 04:56 |
| cfhowlett | I retract my former statement and bow my head in shame. | 04:56 |
| cfhowlett | got link? | 04:56 |
| dax | It's fine, I talked crap about it being a cygwin clone before I knew what I was talking about (it's not) :) | 04:56 |
| Ben64 | looks like it's less a ubuntu on win10 and more of an app you download from the store that adds functionality | 04:56 |
| dax | it's basically mirror-universe WINE | 04:57 |
| Ben64 | where everyone has goatees | 04:57 |
| dax | http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html and http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx cover the details pretty well | 04:57 |
| cfhowlett | so ... nothing I can't live without then | 04:57 |
| dax | (first is Dustin from Canonical, second is his MSFT counterpart) | 04:57 |
| Ben64 | it'll be cool for the rsync, grep, find, etc | 04:57 |
| Ben64 | but mostly meh | 04:57 |
| dax | cfhowlett: indeed, it's not something most people are gonna be using by any means | 04:57 |
| cfhowlett | still trying to process who would *want* to do this | 04:58 |
| Ben64 | i wish every windows computer had rsync | 04:58 |
| elky | developers who are stuck on windows because of corporate policies | 04:58 |
| dax | I use Windows in my day job. Having those sorts of command-line tools would be very nice. | 04:58 |
| dax | Dual-booting and having to reboot to use them is tedious | 04:58 |
| dax | cygwin is clunky | 04:58 |
| dax | so, me :) | 04:58 |
| Ben64 | on some random windows computer... ok i need to upload this file to my server... | 04:59 |
| Ben64 | download winscp? :S | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | then again, I'm still for nuking any and all mentions of wubi, yet it still carried in the repos. | 04:59 |
| elky | why did you have to mention that :( | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | I know, right? | 04:59 |
| elky | i need trauma counselling. | 04:59 |
| dax | lol wubi | 04:59 |
| cfhowlett | sorry, elky | 04:59 |
| dax | isn't it still on the liveiso even | 04:59 |
| Ben64 | who do we have to prod to get that deleted forever | 04:59 |
| elky | it's probably only still around because sunk cost fallacy. | 05:00 |
| cfhowlett | it is. and every, *EVERY* time someone comes crying that their "dual boot" broke or worse, broke their machine ... | 05:00 |
| cfhowlett | and we KNOW wubi has been a lost cause for years | 05:00 |
| elky | we do. i'm not sure canonical people have had to deal with the fallout so much. it's not exactly the kind of thing the people who buy support are going to use. | 05:02 |
| cfhowlett | wubi was the direct cause of me quitting ubuntu for a few years | 05:02 |
| cfhowlett | in fact, wubi 9.04 had an infamous bug that many suffered from | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:04 |
| lotuspsychje | !find 361 | 06:26 |
| ubot5` | Found: libghc-chart-dev, libghc-chart-prof, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=361&searchon=names&suite=wily§ion=all | 06:26 |
| lotuspsychje | !find nvidia-361 | 06:26 |
| ubot5` | Package/file nvidia-361 does not exist in wily | 06:27 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-announces-ubuntu-on-windows-an-ubuntu-userspace-for-windows-10-devs-502379.shtml | 06:27 |
| dax | !ubuwin | 07:11 |
| ubot5` | Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality has not yet been released. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 07:11 |
| dax | cfhowlett etc. ^ for all your redirection needs :) | 07:11 |
| dax | (just made it) | 07:11 |
| cfhowlett | :) | 07:11 |
| dax | IRC team will have to figure out if/how to support it when it's released, but until then that should work | 07:12 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: url project locked on !svn trigger | 08:32 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje, how are you? | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: fine mate tnx and you? | 08:41 |
| lordievader | Doing okay, brewing coffee :) | 08:41 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: both url's dead on !alot | 08:46 |
| l4m8d4_ | Wow, I think #ubuwin this is a typical case of "embrace, extend, extinguish", what do you guys say? | 12:01 |
| Ben64 | i don't think ubuntu is planning anything nefarious like that | 12:05 |
| l4m8d4_ | Ben64: Haha, that's a good one. Of course I am referring to microsoft, everyone who didn't get it | 12:06 |
| BluesKaj | howdy all, again | 13:25 |
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| stochastix | there is no one in here to listen to me, This is like ubuntu version of free speech areas lol | 22:59 |
| daftykins | what? | 22:59 |
| daftykins | i see users in here, just fine. | 22:59 |
| stochastix | Yea, only 49 of us though :) | 23:00 |
| daftykins | anyway, if you have something ubuntu to discuss - that's what is relevant here | 23:01 |
| stochastix | I was talking about MS getting ready to run linux apps in windows. Then I wondered if MS might do the same thing in return and make windows apps able to run more native in linux. | 23:02 |
| stochastix | guess I cant talk about that stuff in #ubuntu | 23:02 |
| EriC^^ | !info bla > EriC^^ | 23:05 |
| daftykins | well i didn't actually see you say any of that | 23:05 |
| daftykins | but that's a stupid topic | 23:05 |
| gde33 | I was kinda hoping ms would end with a gamers community competing with blizzard and sony for a market of children | 23:06 |
| stochastix | Im still waiting to play americas army in linux again lol | 23:06 |
| stochastix | one of these days | 23:07 |
| daftykins | #ubuntu has a lot of people that buy windows 10 based gaming laptops these days, then install ubuntu | 23:07 |
| daftykins | strikes me as extremely foolish, "oh hey let me just buy this and then try to game on it using something that doesn't run games well" | 23:08 |
| stochastix | lol | 23:08 |
| daftykins | might as well buy a car and take it out on the lake with some skis fitted, towed behind a boat | 23:08 |
| daftykins | "well it's not quite a water skiier, but hey it's getting better" | 23:08 |
| stochastix | Some brands like toshiba screw you and conspire with MS to change the ACPI standards | 23:08 |
| gde33 | it is called dual boot | 23:09 |
| stochastix | So when you run linux, nothing on your soutch bridge works half the time | 23:09 |
| daftykins | no, often they have limited spec models that don't have enough space to put win10 beside ubuntu - and actually a lot of the time gde33 - since believe it or not i wasn't born yesterday, they are installing ubuntu as the sole OS. | 23:09 |
| stochastix | HP has usually been a good laptop to run linux on for me | 23:09 |
| gde33 | daftykins: at least the ubuntu obstacle course doesn't involve killing things the whole day | 23:10 |
| daftykins | i've no idea what that statement means | 23:11 |
| gde33 | ubuntu is the best game ever :P | 23:11 |
| daftykins | and have you not killed any processes recently? ;) | 23:11 |
| gde33 | yes but not one after the other for years in a row | 23:12 |
| gde33 | I always joke to my gamer friends that alcoholics and prisoners at least get outside the house | 23:12 |
| daftykins | i'm gonna switch back to channels where i understand the folks now | 23:13 |
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