[04:54] <dax> cfhowlett: I note that the Ubuntu on Win10 stuff is not an April Fools day thing. For one thing, it was announced two days before April 1st
[04:55] <cfhowlett> ehhh, true.  but msoft officially supporting ubuntu?
[04:55] <cfhowlett> seems ... sketchy.  and MSFT has made no such announcement, right?
[04:56] <dax> It was announced during the Microsoft BUILD keynote
[04:56] <cfhowlett> !!
[04:56] <cfhowlett> I retract my former statement and bow my head in shame.
[04:56] <cfhowlett> got link?
[04:56] <dax> It's fine, I talked crap about it being a cygwin clone before I knew what I was talking about (it's not) :)
[04:56] <Ben64> looks like it's less a ubuntu on win10 and more of an app you download from the store that adds functionality
[04:57] <dax> it's basically mirror-universe WINE
[04:57] <Ben64> where everyone has goatees
[04:57] <dax> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html and http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx cover the details pretty well
[04:57] <cfhowlett> so ... nothing I can't live without then
[04:57] <dax> (first is Dustin from Canonical, second is his MSFT counterpart)
[04:57] <Ben64> it'll be cool for the rsync, grep, find, etc
[04:57] <Ben64> but mostly meh
[04:57] <dax> cfhowlett: indeed, it's not something most people are gonna be using by any means
[04:58] <cfhowlett> still trying to process who would *want* to do this
[04:58] <Ben64> i wish every windows computer had rsync
[04:58] <elky> developers who are stuck on windows because of corporate policies
[04:58] <dax> I use Windows in my day job. Having those sorts of command-line tools would be very nice.
[04:58] <dax> Dual-booting and having to reboot to use them is tedious
[04:58] <dax> cygwin is clunky
[04:58] <dax> so, me :)
[04:59] <Ben64> on some random windows computer... ok i need to upload this file to my server...
[04:59] <Ben64> download winscp? :S
[04:59] <cfhowlett> then again, I'm still for nuking any and all mentions of wubi, yet it still carried in the repos.
[04:59] <elky> why did you have to mention that :(
[04:59] <cfhowlett> I know, right?
[04:59] <elky> i need trauma counselling.
[04:59] <dax> lol wubi
[04:59] <cfhowlett> sorry, elky
[04:59] <dax> isn't it still on the liveiso even
[04:59] <Ben64> who do we have to prod to get that deleted forever
[05:00] <elky> it's probably only still around because sunk cost fallacy.
[05:00] <cfhowlett> it is.  and every, *EVERY* time someone comes crying that their "dual boot" broke or worse, broke their machine ...
[05:00] <cfhowlett> and we KNOW wubi has been a lost cause for years
[05:02] <elky> we do. i'm not sure canonical people have had to deal with the fallout so much. it's not exactly the kind of thing the people who buy support are going to use.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> wubi was the direct cause of me quitting ubuntu for a few years
[05:03] <cfhowlett> in fact, wubi 9.04 had an infamous bug that many suffered from
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !find 361
[06:26] <ubot5`> Found: libghc-chart-dev, libghc-chart-prof, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=361&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !find nvidia-361
[06:27] <ubot5`> Package/file nvidia-361 does not exist in wily
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-announces-ubuntu-on-windows-an-ubuntu-userspace-for-windows-10-devs-502379.shtml
[07:11] <dax> !ubuwin
[07:11] <ubot5`> Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality has not yet been released. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss.
[07:11] <dax> cfhowlett etc. ^ for all your redirection needs :)
[07:11] <dax> (just made it)
[07:11] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:12] <dax> IRC team will have to figure out if/how to support it when it's released, but until then that should work
[08:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> dax: url project locked on !svn trigger
[08:34] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: fine mate tnx and you?
[08:41] <lordievader> Doing okay, brewing coffee :)
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> dax: both url's dead on !alot
[12:01] <l4m8d4_> Wow, I think #ubuwin this is a typical case of "embrace, extend, extinguish", what do you guys say?
[12:05] <Ben64> i don't think ubuntu is planning anything nefarious like that
[12:06] <l4m8d4_> Ben64: Haha, that's a good one. Of course I am referring to microsoft, everyone who didn't get it
[13:25] <BluesKaj> howdy all, again
[22:59] <stochastix> there is no one in here to listen to me, This is like ubuntu version of free speech areas lol
[22:59] <daftykins> what?
[22:59] <daftykins> i see users in here, just fine.
[23:00] <stochastix> Yea, only 49 of us though :)
[23:01] <daftykins> anyway, if you have something ubuntu to discuss - that's what is relevant here
[23:02] <stochastix> I was talking about MS getting ready to run linux apps in windows. Then I wondered if MS might do the same thing in return and make windows apps able to run more native in linux.
[23:02] <stochastix> guess I cant talk about that stuff in #ubuntu
[23:05] <EriC^^> !info bla > EriC^^
[23:05] <daftykins> well i didn't actually see you say any of that
[23:05] <daftykins> but that's a stupid topic
[23:06] <gde33> I was kinda hoping ms would end with a gamers community competing with blizzard and sony for a market of children
[23:06] <stochastix> Im still waiting to play americas army in linux again lol
[23:07] <stochastix> one of these days
[23:07] <daftykins> #ubuntu has a lot of people that buy windows 10 based gaming laptops these days, then install ubuntu
[23:08] <daftykins> strikes me as extremely foolish, "oh hey let me just buy this and then try to game on it using something that doesn't run games well"
[23:08] <stochastix> lol
[23:08] <daftykins> might as well buy a car and take it out on the lake with some skis fitted, towed behind a boat
[23:08] <daftykins> "well it's not quite a water skiier, but hey it's getting better"
[23:08] <stochastix> Some brands like toshiba screw you and conspire with MS to change the ACPI standards
[23:09] <gde33> it is called dual boot
[23:09] <stochastix> So when you run linux, nothing on your soutch bridge works half the time
[23:09] <daftykins> no, often they have limited spec models that don't have enough space to put win10 beside ubuntu - and actually a lot of the time gde33 - since believe it or not i wasn't born yesterday, they are installing ubuntu as the sole OS.
[23:09] <stochastix> HP has usually been a good laptop to run linux on for me
[23:10] <gde33> daftykins: at least the ubuntu obstacle course doesn't involve killing things the whole day
[23:11] <daftykins> i've no idea what that statement means
[23:11] <gde33> ubuntu is the best game ever :P
[23:11] <daftykins> and have you not killed any processes recently? ;)
[23:12] <gde33> yes but not one after the other for years in a row
[23:12] <gde33> I always joke to my gamer friends that alcoholics and prisoners at least get outside the house
[23:13] <daftykins> i'm gonna switch back to channels where i understand the folks now