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* sil2100 can't get on mumble15:03
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slangasek#startmeeting15:05
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Mar 31 15:05:06 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:05
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:05
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:05
slangasekinfinity barry tdaitx robru xnox caribou doko sil2100 slangasek chiluk bdmurray pitti cyphermox15:05
cyphermoxouh, last15:05
infinityslangasek: Gimme a few minutes, just woke up. :P15:05
slangasekok15:05
slangasekno barry?15:05
slangasektdaitx: you want to go first?15:05
tdaitx* JCK 815:06
tdaitx   - Down to 4 runtime failures (3 locale, 1 ssl, 1 graphical/opacity)15:06
tdaitx   - Tested various window managers under Xvfb, dummy Xorg, and Xpra; wmaker so far has the fewest intermittent failures under Xvfb or Xorg (still requires one or two additional runs to get everything to pass)15:06
tdaitx   - Setup Xpra to improve interactive tests (automatic sound redirection)15:06
tdaitx   - Improving scripts to handle both JCK 7 and JCK 815:06
tdaitx* JCK 715:06
tdaitx   - A bit over 20 failures on runtime (waiting to redeploy the environment with additional fixes and integration with from the JCK 8 scripts)15:06
tdaitx* Checked OpenJDK 8 build failure on arm64; tracked down to missing #includes on an earlier changeset15:06
tdaitx(done)15:06
robrushort week due to easter15:06
robru- chased down some issues related to the recent dpkg-buildpackage speedups in the train15:06
robru  * pre_release_hook conversion for media-hub and trust-store15:06
robru- began working on further GLES automation in the train (in progress)15:06
robru(done)15:06
dokotdaitx, in the past I used twm (or still using it for the packages)15:07
xnoxhello15:07
xnox!skip15:07
xnoxcaribou, go =)15:08
caribou Bugfix :15:08
caribou - opencontrail panic15:08
caribou   Invesitage Juniper support15:08
caribou - LP: #1546260 - kexec-tools purgatory failure on PowerPC6415:08
caribou   Uploaded test package to PPA15:08
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1546260 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1546260). The error has been logged15:08
caribou Development work:15:08
caribou - DEP8 tests for makedumpfile15:08
caribou   Finalized first pass15:08
caribou - Kernel crash dump enablement on s39015:08
caribou   Investigating zfcpdump15:08
caribou - vsftpd DEP8 regression15:08
caribou   Pursueing Debian bug #81954615:08
ubottuDebian bug 819546 in vsftpd "vsftpd no longer starts with systemd because of listen_ipv6=NO from Bug: #803999" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/81954615:08
caribou Misc:15:08
caribou - clamav setup & debug15:08
caribou ☑ Done15:08
tdaitxdoko: yes, I used twm, fluxbox, and wmaker... I was getting too many intermitent failures with twm15:09
xnoxwas out last week, plus this is a short week due to pagan holidays.15:10
xnoxbeta-2: testing, test report, shipped by dannf, all good15:10
xnoxbeta-programme: responding to inquiries, kicked off community too15:10
xnoxresponding to bug mail / fixing things: uploaded netcfg, s390-dasd|zfcp, looking into ftbfs regressions15:10
xnoxupstreamish: send trivial patch for openssh, updated germinate/curtin merge proposals15:10
xnoxdone15:10
slangasekinfinity: you ready now?15:10
infinity* Very short week, due to 4-day weekend:15:11
infinity  - Rename powerpc-utils and powerpc-ibm-utils in Debian, merging to Ubuntu soon15:11
infinity  - Update librtas and powerpc-utils to new upstream, with some local fixes15:11
infinity  - Work on glibc security updates15:11
infinity  - New tzdata version updates15:11
infinity  - Investigate glib2.0/s390x failures, still ongoing15:11
infinity  - Lots and lots of queue reviews and a bit of mentoring to go with15:11
infinity(done)15:11
doko- openjdk-6 and openjdk-7 removal15:11
doko- fixing build failures15:11
doko- transitions: qwt,15:11
doko- gcc-5 update, updating from the IBM branch15:11
doko- various +1 maintenance work15:11
doko(done)15:11
sil2100- Shorter week due to national holidays15:12
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:12
sil2100- RTM status meetings15:12
sil2100- Quick meetings about the joiner buddy program in Canonical15:12
sil2100- Turbo enablement15:12
sil2100  * Preparing an emergency snapshot for the team to build factory image15:12
sil2100  * Re-spinning images with different custom/device tarball combinations15:12
sil2100  * (more re-spins coming)15:12
sil2100- OTA-1015:12
sil2100  * Tracking required landings, coordinating custom tarball releases15:12
sil2100  * Spin a new custom tarball for BQ-channel mako with new apps per request15:12
sil2100- Touch language packs:15:12
sil2100  * Changing exports to Fridays, langpack-o-matic to few hours later15:12
sil2100  * Look into why we're missing some languages in touch (missing potemplate stats)15:12
sil2100  * Manual spins of translations15:12
sil2100- Clean-up in assigned bugs15:12
sil2100- Quick preliminary look at the system-image charm15:12
sil2100- Documenting click-package staging with the lock mechanism15:12
sil2100- Booking flights for sprint15:12
sil2100- Seed changes per product team request15:12
sil2100- Various work and tweaks on some LT tools (safe-copy and snapshotter)15:12
sil2100(done)15:12
chilukslangasek you're up.15:13
slangasekyes15:13
slangasek * short week, off last Friday15:15
slangasek * php sponsorships x 30015:15
slangasek * proposed-migration cleanups15:15
slangasek * NEW reviews, FFe processing for 16.0415:15
slangasek * head-scratching over the 14.04 SIGKILL-the-world upgrader bug, bug #155523715:15
ubottubug 1555237 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 14.04.4→ 16.04 dies midway taking out the session." [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155523715:15
slangasek * nudging launchpad team about scalingstack builders being out of date, possibly caused a build failure due to a kernel bug15:15
slangasek * nudging people about archive reorg changes15:15
slangasek(done)15:15
chiluk- Worked a bit on bug 1012629.  Determined the issue to be a bios/efi one at least for me.15:15
chiluk- Snappy stuffs.15:15
chiluk- Some more Vacation *(i.e. moving).15:15
chiluk- done -15:15
ubottubug 1012629 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "grub-installer ignores "bootdev" setting in preseed file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101262915:15
slangasekbdmurray:15:16
bdmurraybackfilled BucketVersionsCount in real cassandra DB15:16
bdmurrayfixed (combined FirstSeen, LastSeen) BucketMetadata in real cassandra DB15:16
bdmurraysetup local Errors frontend to point at new cassandra DB15:16
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have mojo spec reviewed15:16
bdmurraymade modifications to mojo spec based off reviewer feedback15:16
bdmurrayconfirmed rsync access to apport's duplicate db works15:16
bdmurraymodified component-mismatch MIR bug creator to do more stuff15:16
bdmurrayopened some MIR bug reports15:16
bdmurraysprint travel arrangements15:16
bdmurray✔ done15:16
pittionly a 2-day week (plus some extra hacking over holiday)15:16
pittiautopkgtgest:15:16
pitti - add testbed package list to artifacts.tar.gz (#1559629)15:16
pitti - fix retries for silos when corresponding Ubuntu release does not have any result for given package (#1544917)15:16
pitti - some post-holiday maintenance, update armhf boxes15:16
pitti - britney: add some more tests15:16
pittiddebs.u.c.:15:16
pitti - analyze ddeb-eating issue from last week, add working --regenerate-all option, refresh indexes for new GPG key/hash algorithm (#1558823)15:16
pitti - add xz index compression, by request from Colin (#1559987)15:16
pitti - prepare for Packages.bz2 disappearing from master Ubuntu archive15:16
pittidistro:15:16
pitti - cmake: clean up merge, sponsor (#1534263)15:16
pitti - debug why libpam-systemd is missing in a ppc64el server install, fix seeds (#1561658)15:16
pitti - investigate deadlock with lots of LVMs, some experiments wrt. fixing watershed, create watershed tests; eventually opted for fixing lvm2 (#1560710)15:17
pitti - PostgreSQL: prepare new upstream security/bug fix releases for all supported Ubuntu releases (#1564268)15:17
pittimisc:15:17
pitti - help Saviq with getting access to scalingstack instance for debugging unity8 failure15:17
pitti(END)15:17
cyphermoxxenial:15:17
cyphermox- finishing network-manager updates for FFE15:17
cyphermox- investigating ubiquity crashes (bug LP: #1551285)15:17
cyphermox- minor libcxl fixes15:17
cyphermox- ubiquity oem-config fixes (network and users) (bug LP: #1508865, bug LP: #1552621)15:17
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1551285 could not be found15:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1508865 in One Hundred Papercuts "oem-config: networking not enabled during user config" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150886515:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1552621 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Can't login to desktop autometically after oem-config is finished on OEM mode" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155262115:17
cyphermoxother stuff:15:17
cyphermox- I am in upgrade testing hell15:17
cyphermox- Secure Boot /efi/boot paths on broken firmware15:17
cyphermox- add u-r-u quirk for dbus's setuid helper permissions15:17
cyphermox- upgrade testing w/ timetravel (bug LP: #1555237)15:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1555237 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 14.04.4→ 16.04 dies midway taking out the session." [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155523715:17
cyphermox  - includes setup time for said timetravel w/ meta-release15:17
cyphermox- systemtap tracing signals on upgrade15:17
cyphermox(done)15:17
bdmurraytimetravel?15:18
cyphermoxyeah, some code I stole from cjwatson with minimal changes so that you can pick at the archive's state at a specific date15:19
slangasekcyphermox: hmm. the NM from the FFe has not landed yet?15:19
cyphermoxslangasek: no, it has not15:19
slangasekFFes normally expire once we hit final beta15:19
cyphermoxslangasek: the work is useful anyway, it will be ready for next cycle15:20
slangasekok; is someone (desktop team?) expecting this still for 16.04?15:20
cyphermoxI don't know, I'm certainly not getting much help15:20
slangasekcyphermox: re: upgrade testing, did you get a handle on systemtap for this?15:20
cyphermoxbdmurray https://github.com/cyphermox/apt-mirror15:20
cyphermoxslangasek: yes, I have output from a stap script, hold on15:21
cyphermoxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15568151/15:21
cyphermoxit does show that systemd-udevd goes on a murder spree15:21
infinityWhee.15:21
* xnox bets that cjwatson's traveler is based on my traveler which is based on tumbleweed's traveler15:21
slangasekcyphermox: ah, so it is udev that's doing it15:22
cyphermoxxnox: quite likely, which is also based on some other thing from some other people15:22
slangasekcyphermox: maybe you want to grab pitti in to help with this?15:22
pittiudisks2.postinst does this: udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=block --action=change15:22
pittiwhich at least connects updating udisks to some udev activity15:22
cyphermoxalready pinged15:22
slangasekok15:22
pittibut this still  looks a bit weird -- why would dbus-deaemon send SIGKILLs too?15:22
xnoxbecause dbus activation timedout....15:22
xnox(dbus is a mini-init)15:23
slangasekalrighty, any other questions over status?15:23
cjwatsontimetravel> it sure is15:24
slangasekand tumbleweed's traveler is based on tumbleweed's traveler is based on tumbleweed's traveler?15:24
cjwatsonFYI the archive reorg status is that I have a couple of LP branches up for review to add a flag which changes build-dep resolution behaviour, and xnox's germinate branch is probably OK now though I need to take another look after I get the LP stuff reviewed15:24
slangasek\o/15:24
cjwatsonif all goes well it should be possible to roll it out early next week15:24
cjwatsonI'm guessing that if it's after next week, it's too late for 16.0415:25
infinitycjwatson: Yay.  I've been intentionally merging my packages with main/universe build-dep deltas at lower-than-Debian versions, so I can sync when that lands. :)15:25
cjwatsonand the security team will hate me forever15:25
slangasekcjwatson: we still have component-mismatches in the current report that we are NOT "fixing" for 16.04 :)15:25
slangaseknodejs is blacklisted from main15:25
slangasekbecause of its known Communist sympathies15:25
* xnox TRUMP15:26
xnoxslangasek, he is a Communist right?15:26
infinityNot last I checked.15:26
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:27
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xnoxinfinity, btw that systemctl bug looks like a libsystemd dbus / kdbus serialisation/deserialisation library bug15:27
xnox....15:27
infinityNifty.15:28
infinityDoes it appear to have any actual runtime effect, or just hilarious cosmetic effect?15:28
slangasekapparently it has the runtime effect of making xnox disappear15:30
xnoxinfinity, pretty sure any uint communication between any *ctl clients and systemd is borked15:31
infinityAwesome.15:31
xnoxbut e.g. gdbus client over dbus1 daemon does work correctly15:32
slangasekok, anything else?15:32
sil2100uh15:33
pittixnox: do you have some details about that? bug report or so?15:34
infinitysil2100: That's how I feel too.15:34
infinitypitti: My "bug report" was just an IRC ping consisting of "wtf lol" and:15:35
infinity● z13-02815:35
infinity    State: running15:35
infinity     Jobs: 1197795576 queued15:35
infinity   Failed: 1197795576 units15:35
sil2100That's how I feel all week15:35
xnoxpitti, filing one now. will link15:35
infinitypitti: Obviously an endian bug, both from the hilariously large representations of "0", and that I see it on both s390 and powerpc.15:37
pitti*nod*15:37
xnoxpitti, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/292715:40
xnoxinfinity, but i like that pid1 has the right value, and reports the right thing over system dbus115:40
slangasekalrighty, seems we're at and end15:46
slangasek#endmeeting15:46
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Mar 31 15:46:13 2016 UTC.15:46
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-03-31-15.05.moin.txt15:46
slangasekthanks, all!15:46
caribouslangasek: thanks!15:46
pittixnox: confirmed, I'll look15:48
xnoxpitti, was there a cli dbus tool but shipped by systemd...?15:49
xnoxsomething like gdbus, but better (using libsystemd et.al)15:50
pittixnox: busctl, yes15:50
pittixnox: see the issue followup that I just wrote15:50
pittixnox: functionally it's more or less the same, but the command completion really rocks15:51
xnoxbusctl get-property org.freedesktop.systemd1 /org/freedesktop/systemd1 org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager NJobs15:53
xnoxworks fine15:53
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