[00:34] <ali1234> okay it's installing
[00:34] <ali1234> it did in fact ask me for a product key
[00:34] <ali1234> but it allows you to skip it. no idea what will happen on first boot
[00:36] <daftykins> yeah but i said it doesn't need one
[00:36] <daftykins> which is the same
[00:41] <ali1234> "Hi"
[00:41] <daftykins> we're glad that you're here
[00:41] <daftykins> we're getting this ready for you!
[00:41] <ali1234> i wasn't forced to create a microsoft account
[00:42] <ali1234> and i was able to turn off all the tracking... or at least some of it
[00:42] <daftykins> no, but you have to use one with insider preview builds
[00:42] <daftykins> nope
[00:42] <ali1234> oh, what do i have then?
[00:42] <daftykins> in terms of?
[00:42] <ali1234> in terms of what i jus downloaded and installed?
[00:43] <daftykins> likely without an MS account signed into, it won't allow further insider updates from that point
[00:43] <daftykins> but that might not be necessary for a quick play
[00:43] <ali1234> Win10_1511_1_English_x64.iso
[00:46] <daftykins> cmd would state the build #
[00:46] <ali1234> well this is a huge improvement over 8
[00:46] <ali1234> or maybe not
[00:47] <ali1234> 10586
[00:47] <daftykins> yep so that's the same as is out right now
[00:47] <daftykins> too old
[00:49] <ali1234> lots of updates tho
[00:49] <ali1234> oh here's a button to get insider updates
[00:49] <daftykins> mmm not really ;D you'll need to sign into an MS account instead, then change windows update to the fast ring in start -> settings -> update
[00:50] <ali1234> now it is asking me to sign in
[00:51] <ali1234> keyboard has stopped working
[00:51] <ali1234> oh, there's just a 30 second delay on typing
[00:51] <daftykins> classic vbox ;D
[00:52] <daftykins> sounds like you gave it quite few resources perhaps
[00:52] <ali1234> first forced reboot
[00:52] <ali1234> i gave it 4GB
[00:53] <daftykins> processors
[00:53] <ali1234> 1?
[00:53] <daftykins> ouch
[00:54] <ali1234> okay i appear to be all set for the fast track
[00:55] <daftykins> mmm i got that far then it just didn't appear
[00:55] <daftykins> not even after 10586's updates were on
[00:55] <ali1234> did you enable developer mode?
[00:55] <daftykins> that's not necessary to get newer builds on the fast track
[00:56] <ali1234> but apparently it is necessary for the bash
[00:56] <ali1234> according to a blog i read
[00:56] <daftykins> as mentioned that's not even available yet
[00:57] <ali1234> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx
[00:57] <ali1234> i wonder what "adding the feature" means
[00:58] <daftykins> could be programs and features
[00:58] <diddledan> right-click start, choose programs and features, select add features to windows
[00:58] <daftykins> super+X -> control panel
[00:58] <daftykins> oh yeah it's there
[00:58] <ali1234> wow it's like a proper start menu
[00:59] <daftykins> with all the real things IT folk really want to get to
[00:59] <daftykins> \o/
[00:59] <diddledan> like Netflix :-p
[00:59] <ali1234> that's actually pretty nice. does 8 have that?
[00:59] <daftykins> mmm possibly, i forget
[00:59] <daftykins> 8's dead as far as i'm concerned :D
[01:00] <diddledan> 8 and 8.1 have a start screen rather than menu
[01:00] <ali1234> still has a thing in the bottom left though doesnt it?
[01:00] <daftykins> it's a fake, but you get the same by right clicking i think
[01:00] <daftykins> which is also how you get it on 10
[01:00] <diddledan> it's similar to the 10 menu but it's full-screen and the icons are under a down-arrow on that screen
[01:01] <ali1234> i specifically mean the right click thing
[01:01] <ali1234> the actually useful start menu
[01:01] <diddledan> aah, 8 has similar
[01:01] <diddledan> that goes back to vista but it's grown in features
[01:02] <ali1234> so what do insider updates look like when they are available?
[01:02] <ali1234> they appear in the updates bit and say "insider update 12345"?
[01:02] <daftykins> the list of what it's downloading shows a newer build coming down
[01:03] <daftykins> and you get to watch 3GB get downloaded
[01:03] <diddledan> I've been running 10 for two years this September (on and off) so it's been a long while since I last played with an 8/8.1
[01:03] <ali1234> "We speak gmail" lol
[01:04] <diddledan> the insider update behaves like an upgrade install similar to the initial install
[01:04] <ali1234> let's see if they can handle my 4GB of emails
[01:04] <daftykins> he didn't do one though :D
[01:04] <daftykins> that update process is gonna crawl with 1 CPU, i'd give it 2 or 4 perhaps
[01:04] <ali1234> my computer is busy doing other stuff anyway
[01:05] <diddledan> I've not had any success running 10 in vbox - it just crawls no matter what resources I assign
[01:06] <ali1234> er...
[01:06] <ali1234> why does the email client go really thin when i maximize it?
[01:06] <diddledan> bug
[01:06] <diddledan> ?
[01:07] <ali1234> oh i see
[01:07] <ali1234> you click an email and then you see it at the side
[01:07] <ali1234> it's like android
[01:07] <ali1234> except on a computer
[01:07] <ali1234> awful.
[01:07] <daftykins> gotta be honest, i wouldn't go back to the days of a mail client
[01:08] <daftykins> much less the OS stock one
[01:08] <ali1234> as usual, conversations are not threaded properly
[01:08] <ali1234> i got inbox soup
[01:09] <ali1234> "We are adding some new features to windows"
[01:09] <ali1234> "this could take a few minutes"
[01:09] <diddledan> \o/
[01:09] <ali1234> sounds promising
[01:11] <ali1234> hmm this email client... you can't just scroll down and read a whole conversation. it's pretty bad
[01:11] <ali1234> i can see how hard they want to make convergence
[01:11] <ali1234> this is a tablet app running in a window
[01:12] <ali1234> second forced reboot
[01:14] <ali1234> "working on updates"
[01:14] <ali1234> once i had a windows 7 stuck on this screen for four hours
[01:14] <ali1234> that was reasonably quick
[01:14] <daftykins> yeah i don't make much money doing 10 installs that's for sure ;)
[01:14] <ali1234> oh, it just rebooted back to this screen
[01:26] <ali1234> fully updated and no ubuntus
[01:26] <ali1234> guess i'll just try again in a week or so
[01:26] <ali1234> http://imgur.com/IV9xGMN
[01:26] <ali1234> i wonder what /dev/adss is?
[01:27] <ali1234> and /dev/fb0
[01:27] <ali1234> still think it's command line only?
[01:28] <diddledan> fb0 is an interesting one
[01:28] <diddledan> adss was the name of the dll for the android subsystem that the lxss (Linux subsystem) was partly based-upon
[01:29] <ali1234> exactly
[01:50] <diddledan> interesting. fork (the big bugbear of Cygwin implementation devs apparently) is gonna be handled by threads
[01:51] <diddledan> https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2016/C906
[01:52] <diddledan> a discussion with an MS Project Manager, Dustin Kirkland from canonical and an MS developer
[01:58] <daftykins> ooh in the devils lair
[02:01] <diddledan> interesting that each windows user has their own ubuntu install
[02:02] <diddledan> so you will be able to useradd new users to your own ubuntu which are unrelated to my ubuntu users
[02:02] <diddledan> even though we're on the same machine
[06:49] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:53] <knightwise> morning everyone
[06:55] <MooDoo> morning knightwise
[06:55] <knightwise> hey moodoo :) how are you dude
[06:56] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah good thanks, just watching dusting on channel9 about the bash on windows thing
[06:56] <knightwise> I think its not bad at all :) i would love to have some bash tools in windows
[06:57] <knightwise> currently enjoying linux apps on osx thanx to homebrew , so i'm not complaining at all :)
[06:57] <knightwise> I for one welcome our new bash overlords :p
[06:57] <MooDoo> no i'm quite excited, out of acorns and all that
[06:58] <MooDoo> next it'll be gui apps, if they go that way
[06:58] <knightwise> i mean : if there ever was a sign that linux "matters" to microsoft then it has to be that !
[06:58] <knightwise> Oh yes ! that would be cool as well
[06:58] <knightwise> if people keep this up my cross platform podcast is going to become irrelevant :)
[06:59] <MooDoo> on the flip side, i wonder if there is something super duper secret to get windows apps ported to linux?
[06:59] <MooDoo> or exe running natively etc
[06:59] <knightwise> God ...
[06:59] <knightwise> Word and shit on my linux machine ? I would be in heaven
[06:59] <knightwise> i could finally take my Linux OS into the corporate world !
[06:59] <MooDoo> yeah exactly :D
[07:00] <MooDoo> can't see it happening just yet, but you never know do you
[07:00] <knightwise> true.
[07:01] <knightwise> in the end operating systems arent gonna matter anymore. I love microsofts strategy of embracing other platforms
[07:01] <knightwise> The best client to check your Gmail on IOS is Outlook (go figure)
[07:03] <MooDoo> well all we can do is wait and see, i mean, this new feature won't be available until their summer release build
[07:03] <MooDoo> and then you have to put the system in developer mode.
[07:03] <knightwise> true.
[07:03] <knightwise> in the meantime .. there is putty :p
[07:04] <knightwise> hmm.. i'm thinking about getting an older T520i (Lenovo) this weekend as a system to tinker with.
[07:04] <knightwise> do you think its still worth it to get something like that ?
[07:04] <MooDoo> lol I use than my self :)
[07:04] <MooDoo> i have no idea about older machines :(
[07:05] <knightwise> MooDoo: you do ? what are your specs on that machine ? an I5 .. and...
[07:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:05] <knightwise> heya brobostigon
[07:06] <brobostigon> moin knightwise
[07:06] <MooDoo> knightwise: the machine i'm on at the moment [work] is a dell latitude laptop i5 4gb ram nothing special
[07:07] <knightwise> And what specs do you hacve on the I520  ?
[07:10] <Oli> I think you're getting a little ahead of yourselves here. Actions to date suggest they're just trying to stop Windows-users who need to develop for Linux servers (websites/etc) from moving to Linux. I'll happily eat those words when they show off MS Office Linux Edition, but they still make considerable money off enterprise Windows subscriptions so I don't think that'll be any time soon.
[07:11] <MooDoo> Oli: we can dream :D
[07:12] <knightwise> My thoughts exactly
[07:12] <Oli> And/or Linux developers who like to game. These recent changes mean I could now [easily] perform my dayjob on Win10. I'll admit I'm a little tempted.
[07:12] <knightwise> Oli: Win10 isn't bad , i run it on my Surface pro 4
[07:12] <Oli> BURN THE HERETIC
[07:13]  * knightwise = Cross platform slider
[07:13] <knightwise> I use windows, linux , ios, android and Osx on a daily basis
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy World Backup Day! 😃
[09:02] <knightwise> JamesTait: :) Backup Backup Backup
[09:03] <knightwise> I backed up into the garage door this morning :)
[09:03] <JamesTait> Oops.
[09:03] <zmoylan-pi> *beep* *beep* *beep*
[09:05] <JamesTait> Crunch!
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> parking by ear... a noble tradition
[09:06] <JamesTait> I tend to use my hands on the steering wheel and my feet on the pedals, but I recognise that might not be everyone's cup of tea.
[09:06] <knightwise> I call it Auditory Navigation tactics
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> no true jedi certificate for JamesTait...
[09:07] <JamesTait> It's true. :(
[09:12]  * knightwise waves hand "This is not the insurance document you are looking for"
[09:18] <zmoylan-pi> it was either you or the garage door...
[09:24] <bashrc_> jedi certificate authority
[09:24] <knightwise> This is not the cert you are looking for ?
[10:47] <Myrtti> oh no
[10:47] <Myrtti> Ronnie Corbett has died
[10:48] <SuperMatt> source?
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> bugger... if 2016 would stop killing great people that'd be great...
[10:48] <Myrtti> BBC News right now
[10:48]  * zmoylan-pi goes to get fork handles...
[10:51] <TwistedLucidity> Urf, more sad news
[10:54] <MooDoo> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35934024
[10:55] <Myrtti> time to stock up on four candles, I think. More apt than fork handles.
[10:57] <bashrc_> I know my place...
[11:07] <knightwise> oh :(
[11:08] <MooDoo> :)
[11:14] <Myrtti> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/your-smartphone-could-soon-replace-your-passport_uk_56fcf4e8e4b0884065f053bd?j75fv94otlrt2ihpvi
[11:16] <knightwise> minsky: i love that sketch
[11:21]  * knightwise realy needs a dose of friday 
[11:29] <diplo> Guys, two adsl lines from the same provider, would like to bond them... any recommendations for cheapish routers ( ie : not 1k ) more like in the low hundreds if possible
[11:31] <diplo> I've found dsl/vdsl routers, dsl, ethernet routers but no dual dsl ones s o far
[11:55] <diplo> Seems using a stanard drayek and one of their modems will work on the secondary wan port
[14:17] <bigcalm> I think it's almost time to wrap up the date poll for this year's RAT. Does anybody else want to have a ponder before this happens? http://doodle.com/poll/qw7ehwk5dnweviyp
[14:18] <diddledan> 2016 is being a bad year for celebs
[14:18] <diddledan> poor Ronnie C :-(
[14:19] <TwistedLucidity> bigcalm: RAT...Real Ale Tiddlywinks?
[14:19] <TwistedLucidity> bigcalm: And do I get a CAMRA discount? :-P
[14:19]  * diddledan twiddles TwistedLucidity's wink
[14:19] <diddledan> tiddles**
[14:19] <bigcalm> !rat
[14:20] <bigcalm> That was last year's
[14:21] <TwistedLucidity> Looks like fun. But I probably lack the chops for the technical stuff and I'm a dirty Kubuntu user anyway. (Also it's a bit far to drive...)
[14:21] <diddledan> beer is technical?
[14:22] <bigcalm> There is almost a negative amount of tech talk
[14:22] <bigcalm> Very drunk people are created instead
[14:22] <diddledan> \o/
[14:22] <diddledan> I'm betting everyone here make awesome drunks
[14:22] <TwistedLucidity> bigcalm: I'd have to drive home drunk. That's not happening!
[14:23] <TwistedLucidity> But this *IS* happening: https://linuxbierwanderung.com/ It's on the IoM this year.
[14:24] <bigcalm> My wife and I book a hotel in Farnham or Farnbrough and go home on the Sunday
[14:28] <diddledan> wonks are worried about the security of trident computers: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/trident-upgraded-to-protect-against-cyber-attack/
[14:28] <diddledan> lets upgrade to win10!
[15:42] <diddledan> Miguel de icaza is on-stage
[15:42] <popey> directhex: look busy
[15:44] <directhex> this might be an interesting presentation
[15:44] <diddledan> is that insider knowledge? :-p
[15:48] <zmoylan-pi> he's going to announce that the tesla 3 will run on .net? :-P
[15:49] <diddledan> no extra charge!
[15:49] <diddledan> that's a good price
[15:51] <diddledan> open sauce, too
[15:51] <popey> heh
[15:51] <popey> "any device, any backend operating system"
[15:51] <popey> hmm
[15:52]  * zmoylan-pi and my s40 phone laughs at him... :-)
[15:53] <popey> :)
[15:55] <popey> awkward
[15:55] <popey> asking for applause
[15:55] <diddledan> don't type your password!
[15:56] <popey> http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu
[15:57] <bigcalm> That link doesn't give me a product page
[15:57] <diddledan> me either
[15:57] <popey> http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu/pd.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=bsd&fl=p
[15:57] <popey> soz, busted it
[15:59] <bigcalm> Looks nice
[15:59] <bigcalm> Though 13" feels a little small to me
[16:01]  * TwistedLucidity hugs T430
[16:03] <popey> yeah, T460 is currently top of my "to buy" list
[16:03] <popey> but spendy
[16:04] <zmoylan-pi> cheaper than a lifetime addiction to apple... :-)
[16:11] <Seeker`> *cough* :bigcalm : Though 13" feels a little small to me
[16:26] <Myrtti> I love my xps13
[16:26] <Myrtti> best laptop I've ever had
[16:30] <diddledan> that's an impressive scaling of a game backend they're demoing right now
[16:34] <ndf> I'm still running an AlienWare m11xR1 (11" gaming netbook-sized notebook/laptop with a decent nVidia card)
[16:34] <ndf> love the tinyness
[16:34] <diddledan> lol: "I don't always test my code. but when I do test my code, I test it in production"
[16:34] <ndf> still packs a punch even though it's like nearly 8 years old or whatever
[16:35] <ndf> just a shame these Win10 drivers for switchable gfx(between onboard intelHD and discrete nVidia card) doesn't work
[16:35] <ndf> have to keep one card disabled to avoid 'black screen with cursor' at boot
[16:35] <ndf> =(
[16:36] <ndf> unfortunately it's the nV one.
[16:42] <halt> Hi guys, I just got a new laptop with build in gsm (EM7455) but I did not managed to make it, but not even sure where to start, the modem itself is seen by the os, but is the sim ok or where it's stuck I can't really tell
[16:43] <popey> network manager should see it
[16:43] <halt> all I got is the unavailable message
[16:43] <halt> I see the interface, but nothing about the network
[16:43] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[16:43] <popey> thats a bit old but may be useful
[16:49] <halt> I have 1.0.4-0ubuntu5.3 version form the network manager and that page is referring to 0.7, and it's not listed so based on that I can't tell if it's compatible or not
[17:02] <halt> re sorry just did a restart
[17:06] <halt> nmcli dev status | grep gsm
[17:06] <halt> cdc-wdm0   gsm       unavailable  --
[17:07] <halt> that's all I got, but why it's not available ...well nothing
[17:08] <halt> I feel like it can't see the sim or something basic but I can't find out
[17:36] <daftykins> brief visit
[17:54] <diddledan> daftykins: that's when your lawyers turns up at the jail to post your bail, right?
[17:57] <daftykins> :)
[17:58] <daftykins> just setting up a client Dell XPS13 from the Dell Outlet store now, 8 minutes from power on to booting a win10 flash drive, installing - and desktop.
[17:58] <diddledan> :-)
[18:10] <diddledan> I got a bit emotional watching this video - I'm a big softy https://youtu.be/StLmmsJGNQ8
[20:56] <Azelphur> I did the only adult thing with Ǣ.cc, set up a URL shortener on it (Nimbus) then patched the source to allow for even shorter URLs, https://Ǣ.cc/suc ... wonder how I could make it shorter, I don't know why I'm obsessed with this
[21:13] <daftykins> :)
[21:13] <daftykins> that's a git to type though ;)
[21:39] <diddledan> Azelphur: utf-8 for the unique code
[21:40] <daftykins> excellent, now got an embedded pfsense router which connects to my digitalocean VPS and selectively forwards devices' traffic over that VPN for TV uses in Spain :)
[21:40] <diddledan> :-p
[21:40] <Azelphur> daftykins: true, but who types URLs, it's always just linked somewhere
[21:41] <diddledan> I type google.com regularly
[21:41] <Azelphur> lol
[21:41] <Azelphur> fair point :P
[21:41] <daftykins> i type them all
[21:41] <daftykins> but sometimes you see something on one screen and want to open it on another
[21:41] <diddledan> short urls however, are generally not meant to be typed IMO
[21:42] <diddledan> which then begs the question why make a short one
[21:42] <daftykins> say that to the #ubuntu support users
[21:42] <daftykins> sometimes pastebin'ing things they can't link to easily ;)
[21:43] <diddledan> daftykins: yeah but #ubuntu is full of the dregs of society
[21:43] <diddledan> pastebinit is useful!
[21:43] <daftykins> i no longer know!
[21:43] <diddledan> you left?
[21:43] <daftykins> no i got banned
[21:43] <diddledan> :-o
[21:43] <daftykins> yeah but that's when supporting folk who have non-working internet connections
[21:43] <diddledan> what did you get banned for?
[21:43] <daftykins> also i kept seeing folk get that 'API key' error sometimes too
[21:44] <daftykins> calling a duck a duck
[21:45] <diddledan> well duck that!
[21:45] <daftykins> precisely!
[21:45] <diddledan> quack
[21:46] <diddledan> Miguel de Icaza is demoing executable documentation right now - it's funky
[21:46] <diddledan> it's a markdown document that contains c# snippets which run directly
[21:46] <Azelphur> Also, to add to my crazy doctors saga yesterday, it gets even more crazy, spoke to NHS England again today, apparently the doctors are accusing me of being intimidating now, and I'm banned from the practice. AND they told the NHS England representative that they wanted to talk to his manager to get him in trouble with his manager for telling me I am allowed to register at a GP without ID
[21:46] <Azelphur> Sounds like this is going to end really badly for that doctors surgery...
[21:47] <daftykins> Azelphur: that's hella messy
[21:47] <Azelphur> Indeed
[21:47] <daftykins> what a crazy string of events O_O
[21:47] <diddledan> I missed what happened yesterday
[21:47] <daftykins> oh it was a doozy
[21:47] <Azelphur> diddledan: I'll get you a pastebin, one sec
[21:47] <diddledan> but I registered at my surgery without ID a few years ago
[21:49] <Azelphur> diddledan: here's what I sent NHS England, telling them exactly how it went down: http://pastebin.com/S9uJS5wf
[21:49] <christel> you are BANNED from the practice? let's hope you don't need urgent medical care while walking past :o
[21:51] <Azelphur> christel: yea, it's really weird they claimed I was being intimidating, After I left the practice I called NHS England and I was perfectly calm and collected on the phone, and then when I went back in with NHS England on the phone I was still perfectly calm. So what they are saying is pretty much demonstrably false by NHS England themselves...
[21:51] <Azelphur> of all the things to claim, they shouldn't probably tell NHS England I was being intimidating when I was on the phone to NHS England not being at all intimidating, it's the kind of thing that makes your story fall apart pretty fast >.<
[21:52] <daftykins> probably more a psychological response within the secretary at the practice herself, for chatting porkies
[21:53] <sebsebseb> nk
[21:53] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:53] <daftykins> wb
[21:53] <sebsebseb> daftykins: did you get a tablet Ubuntu?
[21:53] <daftykins> no i'm not interested, remember
[21:54] <sebsebseb> daftykins: what since not complete?
[21:54] <daftykins> i don't do tablets, personally
[21:54] <daftykins> nor desktop Linux
[21:54] <sebsebseb> ah right well FHD was sold out earlier on today, I guess a lot of fan boys out there wanting them so
[21:54] <sebsebseb> HD still on sale
[21:54] <daftykins> mmm nasty res ;)
[21:55] <sebsebseb> what both of them?
[21:55] <sebsebseb> FULL HD and HD?
[21:55] <Azelphur> christel: oh for bonus points, I put up a review on NHS's website, they say that if you post a review and it gets rejected they'll say why, but it's rejected for things like naming names, beligerence, etc. I wrote a perfectly nice review - it got accepted, then a few hours later it got silently removed...weird.
[21:55] <diddledan> HD = 640x480? :-p
[21:55] <daftykins> no just the 1280x800 one
[21:55] <diddledan> gah @ x800
[21:55] <sebsebseb> daftykins: what the HD one is that?
[21:55] <diddledan> at least do it in 16:9
[21:55]  * daftykins blinks
[21:56] <daftykins> well i'm not sure if i'm correct there, i think i opened someones link on these things the other day but i can't remember the specifics for sure
[21:56] <sebsebseb> well looks like the HD one at least might still be avaialbe for pre order next week
[21:57]  * sebsebseb didn't have enough spare money currently or would have pre orderd the FHD
[21:57] <sebsebseb> they will re stock the FHD
[21:57] <sebsebseb> eventually
[21:57] <daftykins> i would genuinely say hold off and do it right
[21:57] <daftykins> if i'm right on the res, that's a duck ;)
[21:58] <diddledan> oh that's nice - Miguel just said "If you recently purchased xamarin you'll get a refund"
[21:58] <ali1234> Azelphur: what ID do they expect you to produce?
[21:58] <diddledan> more ducks!
[21:58] <Azelphur> ali1234: they want proof of address for my girlfriend who just moved in
[21:58] <daftykins> not only that, i had one for dinner Monday night in a restaurant!
[21:58] <diddledan> :-o
[21:58] <ali1234> what constitutes proof of address?
[21:59] <daftykins> official source addressed to addressee
[21:59] <Azelphur> ali1234: they didn't say
[21:59] <Azelphur> but yea, I'd imagine what daftykins said
[21:59] <ali1234> you didn';t ask?
[21:59] <Azelphur> ali1234: did you read the paste? didn't really get much of a chance
[21:59] <daftykins> you'd probably want to be on to her bank to get one despatched to get it done in general? if relevant, aside from all this
[22:00] <diddledan> does a postal envelope with your name and address count? if so then I'm miss something from number 43
[22:00] <Azelphur> she doesn't have an account yet, she's very light on ID honestly, she's gonna apply for a drivers license to get a bank account
[22:00] <diddledan> (I never got around to figuring out where 43 was to pop it through her door :-p)
[22:00] <daftykins> ah
[22:00] <Azelphur> diddledan: hehe, could always break out gimp, not like they'd ever check it anyway.
[22:01] <ali1234> i don't want to read the pastebin it will just make me angry
[22:01] <Azelphur> haha probably \o/
[22:02] <diddledan> Azelphur: well if we're opening Pandora's box then I recommend an official SIS/MI5 ID card along with a letter that you're investigating the practice for whatever-her-name-was-that-you-spoke-to is exhibiting extremist behaviour
[22:02] <Azelphur> hahaha
[22:05] <diddledan> omg Harry Potter is on MS Build right now
[22:09] <diddledan> oh dear. bloomin Germans with their OW dio
[22:10] <diddledan> instead of audio
[22:10] <diddledan> maybe they should rename audio to "son-of-a...dio"
[22:11] <daftykins> worked with a local guy that pronounced it like that o0
[22:11] <diddledan> yeah but you're continental
[22:11] <daftykins> :O
[22:12] <diddledan> blooming frogs
[22:12] <diddledan> :-p
[22:12] <daftykins> sacré bléu
[22:12] <diddledan> wee
[22:12] <diddledan> weewee
[22:12] <diddledan> :-p
[22:12] <daftykins> ah this is so nice VPN'ing to a clients via a synology NAS
[22:12] <diddledan> o_O
[22:13] <daftykins> he'd asked about having his docs available on the go, but given the # of laptops and considering things like dropbox are inappropriate due to the biz content, i eventually just ran it in-house with what we already had
[22:13] <diddledan> I like VPN networks
[22:13] <daftykins> now his laptops can just connect home to Guernsey from wherever he is
[22:13] <daftykins> network networks ;D
[22:13] <diddledan> as in a proper vpn where it's private and not "commercial tunnel to give you a different public IP"
[22:15] <diddledan> I want a VPN to give me access to multiple devices that I normally can't when I'm out-n-about. I don't care for the "circumvent the cops' snoopers" tunnels
[22:15] <daftykins> oic
[22:15] <daftykins> *nod*
[22:15] <daftykins> true business use case
[22:15] <diddledan> aye
[22:16] <diddledan> e.g. all our servers have ssh running on a private IP only which is exposed via openvpn. so we need to connect to the vpn and then we're a citizen on our internal net
[22:17] <diddledan> although technically that's not "we" anymore now that I'm just a contractor on an adhoc basis, but I do still have access to their entire setup
[22:17] <daftykins> you've done a runner!?
[22:17] <diddledan> nope, they laid me off
[22:17] <daftykins> :(
[22:18] <diddledan> that was my xmas prezzie if you recall
[22:18] <daftykins> i did not!
[22:18] <daftykins> or do not
[22:18] <diddledan> got to a few days before xmas and they were like "we no have work for j00"
[22:19] <daftykins> that's such rude timing
[22:19] <diddledan> aye
[22:19] <diddledan> their explanation was that the main client I was supporting had gone away
[22:21] <diddledan> I'm still needed to maintain the Gentoo boxes though so until those get replaced with Ubuntu I have some work
[22:22] <daftykins> it would be a real shame if that project took longer than originally expected ;)
[22:22] <diddledan> lol
[22:22] <diddledan> I just spent best part of 16 hours upgrading openssl on those
[22:23] <daftykins> oof, why so lengthy?
[22:23] <diddledan> Gentoo
[22:23] <ali1234> got to recompile openssl, and then got to recompile everything linked against it
[22:24] <ali1234> which is like everything
[22:25] <daftykins> ah i see
[22:25] <daftykins> ricer mode indeed
[22:29] <m0nkey_> w00t. i fouond a curly wurly in downtown montreal :D
[22:30] <daftykins> that has two meanings!
[22:30] <m0nkey_> the chocolate covered toffy
[22:30] <m0nkey_> holy crap, it's actually made in england
[22:31] <m0nkey_> that means it will set on fire
[22:31] <daftykins> best call it a hover curly wurly
[22:32] <m0nkey_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQ6Z-HmAqY
[22:38] <daftykins> diddledan: apparently this nugget appeared in ubuntu - cristian_ | can i share wife like a hotspot with other computer?
[22:40] <m0nkey_> the obvious answer is: yes
[22:40] <daftykins> when ignoring the typo, you mean?
[22:40] <daftykins> :>
[22:43] <m0nkey_> :)
[22:52] <diddledan> daftykins: are you supposed to read that as "I can! I share wife like a hotspot with other computer."
[22:52] <daftykins> it's deliciously open to interpretation
[22:53] <diddledan> I'm guessing she's in promiscuous mode
[23:07] <m0nkey_> Does she have enough bandwidth?
[23:09] <daftykins> a slap might result from enquiring about her tubes
[23:33] <m0nkey_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0C59pI_ypQ
[23:34] <daftykins> i had quite the sad on hearing that news this morning
[23:36] <daftykins> 2016 shall go down as a real killer