[03:25] <magespawn> good morning
[04:35] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:36] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[05:43] <Cryterion> morning
[07:21] <chesedo> morning Kilos Cryterion and all others
[07:22] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[07:22] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro anton_may 
[07:33] <Kilos> i logged in early today to help make up for yesterday
[07:39] <magespawn> good morning
[07:48] <unlaudable> Kilos, :D
[07:48] <unlaudable> morning
[07:49] <Kilos> hi unlaudable 
[07:52] <Kilos> something for uncapped peeps to look at
[07:52] <Kilos> https://mattermost.popey.com/signup_user_complete/?id=1qpn9houn7r4mc5xc6ho9wt7se
[07:52] <Kilos> kinda hangout thing i think
[07:57] <unlaudable> popey is an ubuntu guy I think... the Ubuntu Mate guy? mattermost is chat thing like Slack
[08:01] <magespawn> hi Kilos unlaudable 
[08:04] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:04] <Kilos> yes popey does lotsa buntu work
[08:04] <magespawn> yet another way to communicate
[08:05] <Kilos> they want to have chat sessions where they can share all experiences and ideas
[08:07] <Kilos> so they are testing out different avenues
[08:08] <inetpro> good morning to everyone, oh and Kilos as well
[08:08]  * Kilos smiles
[08:21] <inetpro> Kilos: oh I like that!
[08:22] <Kilos> the popey thing?
[08:22] <inetpro> no, mattermost 
[08:22] <Kilos> i go see
[08:22] <inetpro> an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative
[08:23]  * inetpro has to check it out later
[08:23] <Kilos> some must join popeys one to show it can work
[08:23] <inetpro> superfly: di you see that ^^ ?
[08:24] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[08:24]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:24] <inetpro> glad to see he can still wash the mugs
[08:24] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[08:24] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[08:24] <chesedo> Kilos: you know where we can get more info on it before signing up?
[08:25] <chesedo> Maaz: coffee please
[08:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Okay
[08:25] <inetpro> chesedo: http://www.mattermost.org/
[08:25] <chesedo> Maaz: with rusk
[08:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Excuse me?
[08:25] <chesedo> ty inetpro
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz with cremora
[08:25] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz and milk
[08:25] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz rusks please
[08:25] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[08:26] <inetpro> YC-funded nogal
[08:26] <Kilos> whats YC
[08:26] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Combinator_%28company%29
[08:26] <anton_may> mornings
[08:27] <inetpro> apparently "the world's most powerful start-up incubator"
[08:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and chesedo!
[08:28] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[08:28] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[08:28] <Kilos> Maaz thanks man
[08:28] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[08:29] <Kilos> join popey man it for testing purposes
[08:29] <chesedo> Maaz: ty
[08:29] <Maaz> You are welcome chesedo
[08:30] <inetpro> Kilos: have you joined?
[08:31] <Kilos>  busy trying to figure a username with numbers and other characters that i wont forget
[08:31] <magespawn> inetpro it might be an idea to set one up
[08:32] <inetpro> magespawn: we need proper stable resources 
[08:32] <inetpro> something that can last a lifetime
[08:33] <magespawn> indeed, i was thinking of getting myself a vps, there is one i found for R99, limited to 400GB of traffic per month 
[08:34] <magespawn> don't know if it will last a lifetime though
[08:36] <Kilos> sjoe thats a serious kinda user name required
[08:39] <Kilos> how can one remember all that and the symbols
[08:39] <Kilos> sigh
[08:40] <Kilos> for testing only it should be easier
[08:40] <chesedo> Kilos: doesn't kde have an eWallet?
[08:41] <Kilos> kwallet
[08:41] <Kilos> i think i have it turned off, it drove me nuts some time back
[08:41] <chesedo> yea, same thing
[08:42] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[08:45] <Kilos> thats hard work
[08:45] <chesedo> Kilos: you there yet?
[08:45]  * chesedo does not see you
[08:46] <Kilos> nope it keeps giving me that message of what to use
[08:46] <chesedo> reload page and just try kilos
[08:46] <Kilos> ok
[08:46] <chesedo> got through with my nick only
[08:49] <Kilos> ya that worked
[08:49] <Kilos> you see me now?
[08:50] <thatgraemeguy> http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
[08:50] <thatgraemeguy> feels like I'm in some weird alternate reality
[08:51] <chesedo> thatgraemeguy: this outlines it better for me - http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html?utm_source=omgubuntu
[08:51] <chesedo> Kilos: yes... replied
[08:51] <Kilos> isnt that flashing thing on the right of the write message block eating data
[08:52] <chesedo> lol, do not think so (it would be a scripts doing that)
[08:52] <Kilos> or so just text then same as here?
[08:53] <chesedo> kind of... notice how the entire history is there and you were not logged in
[08:53] <thatgraemeguy> thanks chesedo, interesting stuff
[08:53] <chesedo> yw thatgraemeguy
[08:54] <Kilos> yes
[08:57] <chesedo> Kilos: seems like one can comment and reply on messages too
[08:57] <Kilos> yes
[08:57] <Kilos> quite snazzy
[08:57] <chesedo> and has markdown support (yiipppee)
[08:58] <Kilos> whatever that might be
[08:59] <chesedo> ooo, and you can link to a specific mesage somehow
[08:59] <Kilos> haha
[08:59] <Kilos> i havent heard any sound alerts
[09:01] <Kilos> ah i found the help page
[09:09] <chesedo> Kilos: that flashing thing is also a quick guide helper
[09:10] <Kilos> ah i turned it off
[09:10] <Kilos> let me know when you find the audio alerts 
[09:10] <chesedo> in settings it states to configure it in browser
[09:11] <Kilos> haha i cant find setting
[09:11] <Kilos> s
[09:11] <chesedo> three dots, top left
[09:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:45] <mazal> Hi
[09:45] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[09:53] <magespawn> chesedo: thanks for that link
[09:53] <magespawn> still makes me wonder why though? and raises so many questions
[09:55] <chesedo> yw magespawn
[10:58] <Kilos> hi Guest81407 
[11:01] <Kilos> i go have lunch
[11:02] <Kilos> inetpro i see your posts in popups but they not showing in that new thing so i gotta see what im doing wrong
[13:45] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> yay
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> 16.04 upgrade done
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> all my fonts look nicer
[14:05] <magespawn> home time chat later all
[15:07] <inetpro> well done thatgraemeguy
[15:08] <inetpro> anyone done any server upgrades to 16.04 yet?
[16:28] <thatgraemeguy> inetpro: no way, servers can wait until the first point release at least
[16:51] <pavlushka-> o/ all
[16:54] <pavlushka-> Facing huge packet loss, talked to my local reseller, now logged in through android.
[16:54] <Cryterion> hmm, getting tired of this irc client, grrr
[16:54] <Cryterion> hi everyone
[16:55] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[16:55] <Cryterion> heya Kilos, pavlushka
[16:55] <Cryterion> how you feeling today Kilos
[16:55] <Kilos> not bad ty Cryterion and you?
[16:56] <pavlushka-> Heya Cryterion!!
[16:56] <Cryterion> all gud, just tired, been a long day
[16:57]  * Cryterion waits for the mosquito's to find him
[16:57] <pavlushka-> Lol
[16:58] <Cryterion> miggies atm, grrr, they get stuck in your hair
[16:59] <Kilos> terrible things
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <Cryterion> problem is it's too hot and humid to close the door, and the light attracts them
[16:59] <pavlushka-> What miggies?
[16:59] <Cryterion> oh kwl
[17:00] <Cryterion> miggies are tiny little bugs
[17:00] <Cryterion> that fly
[17:00] <Cryterion> about 1mm wide and 2mm long
[17:00] <pavlushka-> Actually I asked Kilos what he will eat? Kidding.
[17:00] <Cryterion> then you get the longer 5mm ones
[17:01] <Cryterion> He'll need a few thousand of them, I'm I could collect enough tonight!
[17:01] <pavlushka-> Cryterion,  lucky you.
[17:02] <Cryterion> What packet loses were you expriencing earlier
[17:04] <pavlushka-> Experiencing now, that's why using android phone and the nick is pavlushka- now bcoz of that.
[17:05] <Cryterion> which network given the problems
[17:06] <pavlushka-> I m in the most remote place from our capital and the ISP is at the capital. I m connected through a  reseller.
[17:07] <Cryterion> You're in Germany
[17:07] <pavlushka-> Its 500 km away
[17:07] <Cryterion> whois reports Germany
[17:08] <pavlushka-> Our capital is Dhaka, Bangladesh
[17:09] <pavlushka-> I wish i could be in Germany!!! :((
[17:09] <Cryterion> ah, are any of Seacom cables down, I'll check, but that normally affect all networks together
[17:10] <pavlushka-> Not sure, may be.
[17:10] <Cryterion> lol, looking at what happening there, although my roots come from there, I wouldn't want to go now
[17:11] <Cryterion> I'd rather take my chances here in SA
[17:11] <pavlushka-> I am talking about just for travelling
[17:12] <pavlushka-> I love my country enough not to leave permanently
[17:13] <Cryterion> ah, I wanted to awhile ago, but the political situation in most of the EU is becoming a major problem
[17:14] <pavlushka-> No offence, Cryterion,  no way i was pointing you.
[17:14] <Cryterion> No Prob :), never took it that ay
[17:14] <Cryterion> way*
[17:14] <pavlushka-> I was just talking about my choice.
[17:15] <pavlushka-> That's good,
[17:16] <Cryterion> You'll welcome to go as a tourist, nothing wrong with that, just check with ISIS where, when, and what they'll blow up!
[17:16] <pavlushka-> In irc, the great thing what happened to me is Kilos.
[17:16] <pavlushka-> Yeah, lol
[17:16] <Cryterion> He's a great guy
[17:17] <Cryterion> Very helpfull, and if he can't help, he'll find someone that can help
[17:17] <Cryterion> Out of curiosity, what sort of work do you do?
[17:20] <Kilos> lemme catch up
[17:20] <pavlushka-> We own a small tea farm, i look after that very badly.
[17:22] <pavlushka-> I am a math graduate, so I am good at calculating the profit but not farming.
[17:22] <Kilos> ai!
[17:22] <Kilos> dont skinner bout me
[17:22] <pavlushka-> So at the end i had to calculate the loss.
[17:22] <Cryterion> hmm, growing things can be difficult, must talk to those plants
[17:23] <Cryterion> but you must have some good people working for you?
[17:23] <Cryterion> Kilos : skinner?
[17:24] <Kilos> use my name in vain
[17:24] <Cryterion> where, was all positve!
[17:24] <Cryterion> positive*
[17:24] <Kilos> ja thats embarrasing
[17:25] <Kilos> i get shy because i did nothing
[17:25] <Cryterion> We all Love you Kilos, get over it ;)
[17:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:27] <pavlushka-> Kilos, bad!!  talking native, i dont understand any.
[17:27] <Cryterion> what irc client do you all use? 
[17:28] <Kilos> konversation
[17:28] <Kilos> you on unity can use hexchat
[17:28] <pavlushka-> Its hexchat for me
[17:28] <Kilos> the serious kde guys use quassel
[17:28] <pavlushka-> Now androidirc
[17:29] <Kilos> i spose you could too Cryterion 
[17:29] <Cryterion> xchat atm, think I've used hexchat before, works better than xchat in my opinion
[17:29] <Kilos> then you can bounce with it
[17:29] <Cryterion> andchat on phone, but for desktop looking at a ne one
[17:29] <Kilos> pavlushka- i had pap and boerewors for supper and salad
[17:30] <Kilos> hehe
[17:30] <Cryterion> nice
[17:30] <Cryterion> braai'd?
[17:30] <Kilos> nope pan done
[17:30] <pavlushka-> Gr8
[17:30] <Cryterion> grrr, doesn't taste the same
[17:31] <Kilos> pavlushka- how can you say great when thats native food
[17:31] <Kilos> i dont know if you guys have an equivalent for pap
[17:31] <Kilos> it i s made from ground up maize
[17:31] <Cryterion> Kilos it's a std delicacy here
[17:32] <Kilos> boerewors is a south african sausage
[17:32] <Kilos> pavlushka- did you read your email
[17:33] <pavlushka-> Yep, i was gonna ask
[17:33] <Kilos> beat you
[17:33] <pavlushka-> And i guessed boerewors is non veg
[17:34] <pavlushka-> Ya, bit clumsy with the tiny phone
[17:34] <Kilos> mince and spices and fat put into an intestine
[17:34] <Kilos> fat sausage as long as you like
[17:34] <Cryterion> it's a long sausage, the ingredients are what make it what it is
[17:35] <Kilos> one day when you are rich pavlushka- import some or come taste it here
[17:36] <Kilos> done over coals is the best way but takes time and more effort
[17:37] <Kilos> Cryterion that new chat thing is quite cool hey
[17:37] <Cryterion> Just send a recipe Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> superfly you have seen it
[17:37] <Cryterion> which chat thing?
[17:37] <pavlushka-> Sure, i would love to
[17:37] <Kilos> oh my
[17:37] <Kilos> was chesedo 
[17:37] <Kilos> i get link
[17:38] <Cryterion> ok, been out all day, so prob missed
[17:38] <Kilos> https://mattermost.popey.com/signup_user_complete/?id=1qpn9houn7r4mc5xc6ho9wt7se
[17:38] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: I like your reasoning
[17:38] <Cryterion> oh, got the email, never got to look yet
[17:39] <pavlushka-> I failed bcoz of my bad connection.
[17:39] <Kilos> pavlushka- you will have to import the packet of herbs and spices
[17:39] <chesedo> what ever it is, i didn't do it :P
[17:39] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[17:39] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[17:39] <Cryterion> is thatgraemeguy even around inetpro?
[17:39] <chesedo> hi inetpro
[17:39] <Cryterion> he's away
[17:39] <Cryterion> and hi guys
[17:39] <Kilos> no afk at night
[17:39] <pavlushka-> Good evening inetpro
[17:40] <Cryterion> he upgraded to 16.10 today
[17:40] <pavlushka-> Lol
[17:40] <chesedo> Cryterion: did he use a time machine?
[17:40] <chesedo> :P
[17:40] <Kilos> 16.04
[17:40] <pavlushka-> Might be
[17:41] <Cryterion> don't know, but he's in an isp, commented on font differences, maybe got the number wrong lol 16.04
[17:41] <Cryterion> ;)
[17:42] <inetpro> haha
[17:43] <Kilos> inetpro winter is here at night and mornings hey
[17:43] <Kilos> time for serious leathers
[17:43] <Cryterion> on it's way, but we didn't really have one last year
[17:43] <inetpro> talking about font
[17:43]  * inetpro setting default fixed font to Hack
[17:43] <Kilos> oh have those beetles moved on now
[17:43] <Cryterion> Well us on the east coast didn't
[17:44] <inetpro> Kilos: no man, it was only cold on Sunday and Monday evening
[17:44] <Kilos> hahahaha
[17:44] <Kilos> i get cold in gthe morning opening gates
[17:44]  * inetpro should look out for the beetles again
[17:44] <Kilos> and feeding fowls
[17:45]  * Cryterion chases more bugs away
[17:45] <Kilos> they most be gone and left behind eggs for next year
[17:45] <Kilos> Cryterion where are the canles
[17:46] <Kilos> um
[17:46] <Kilos> citronella
[17:46] <inetpro> superfly: the Hack font is awesome
[17:47] <Kilos> he is giving us the cold shoulder again
[17:48] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[17:49] <Kilos> most likely busy
[17:49] <Kilos> loh
[17:49] <inetpro> obviously
[17:49] <Kilos> its too early man
[17:49] <Kilos> for you as well
[17:49] <Kilos> 40 mins early
[17:49] <Kilos> family time
[17:49] <inetpro> right
[17:49] <pavlushka> Sure, goodnight guys
[17:50] <Kilos> night then pavlushka sleep well
[17:50] <inetpro> pavlushka: sleeping already?
[17:50] <Kilos> sort your isp tomorrow
[17:50] <inetpro> good night pavlushka
[17:50] <Kilos> ya they weaker there inetpro  no pap
[17:50] <pavlushka> Its 11.50 pm here
[17:51] <Kilos> or boeries
[17:51] <inetpro> where's that?
[17:51] <Kilos> go sleep man you night owl
[17:51] <Kilos> bangalory ville
[17:51] <inetpro> what's that, India?
[17:52] <Kilos> bangladesh
[17:52] <inetpro> ahh
[17:56] <Cryterion> inetpro bangladesh is a country of it own
[17:56] <inetpro> Cryterion: I know
[17:57]  * inetpro had no idea where bangalory ville was
[17:57] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <Kilos> i tease them
[17:57] <Kilos> strange i still make friends
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: I thought so, but I assumed you meant Bangalore with that :-)
[17:59] <Kilos> where is bangalore
[17:59] <inetpro> India
[17:59] <Kilos> oh
[17:59] <inetpro> the capital of India's southern Karnataka state
[17:59] <Kilos> thats the next mission
[17:59] <Kilos> trying to wake up india locos
[18:00] <Kilos> and you and fly caused all my overloaded work schedule
[18:01]  * inetpro reading about how a high school replaced IRC with Mattermost
[18:01] <inetpro> https://opensource.com/education/16/3/mattermost-open-source-chat
[18:01] <Kilos> mattermost is quite cool
[18:01] <Kilos> but ill rather close that down than irc
[18:02] <Kilos> spose im old fashioned
[18:02] <Kilos> Cryterion did you look at mattermost yet
[18:02] <inetpro> see, that's why we need them to build the thing with federation and integration in mind
[18:02] <Kilos> before the bugs carry you away
[18:02] <Kilos> tell me inetpro 
[18:03] <Kilos> can one run it locally or is it hosted somewhere else
[18:03] <Cryterion> Kilos I just filled in signup info
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: locally would be possible but really doff
[18:04] <Kilos> was a major job that trying the username the way they advise
[18:04] <inetpro> unless you have an internal network with many people
[18:04] <Kilos> we just use our nicks
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: I have no idea what you're talking about
[18:04] <Kilos> is the hosting free
[18:04] <Kilos> that was for Cryterion man
[18:04] <Kilos> keep up
[18:04]  * inetpro just filled in email address, username and password
[18:04]  * Kilos ducks
[18:05] <inetpro> ai!
[18:05] <Kilos> i tried the username the the way the popup windows says
[18:05] <Kilos> where
[18:05] <Kilos> whew
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: you understand how IRC works?
[18:05] <Kilos> no i just use it
[18:05] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:05] <Kilos> with servers all over yes
[18:10] <Kilos> haha
[18:12] <superfly> inetpro: yes. yes it is. Noto is as well. Kubuntu moved away from Ubuntu to Noto. I'm in font heaven.
[18:12] <Trixar_za> Wait
[18:12] <Trixar_za> What is Mattermost
[18:12] <Trixar_za> Oh and hai
[18:12] <Kilos> go see Trixar_za 
[18:12] <inetpro> Kilos: did you look at my link?
[18:13] <inetpro> http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/interconnecting-xmpp-and-irc.html
[18:13] <Kilos> looking now
[18:13] <inetpro> Trixar_za: https://mattermost.popey.com/
[18:15] <inetpro> Trixar_za: or http://www.mattermost.org/ for the real thing
[18:15] <Kilos> is it xmpp inetpro 
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:15] <Kilos> so why then
[18:16] <Kilos> why xmpp irc stuff
[18:16]  * Cryterion starts eating dinner :)
[18:16] <inetpro> I said that is the type of interconnection that we need with mattermost and irc
[18:16] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:16] <Kilos> eat slow
[18:16] <Trixar_za> So it's like IRC with Jabber features and an client advancement?
[18:16] <Kilos> savour every mouthful
[18:16] <inetpro> Trixar_za: it's like slack
[18:16] <inetpro> an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative
[18:17] <Trixar_za> https://github.com/erming/shout
[18:17] <Trixar_za> ^
[18:20] <inetpro> Trixar_za: have you never used slack?
[18:20] <inetpro> mattermost.popey.com is running on a 512MB digital ocean droplet
[18:21] <superfly> If instructions ever tell you to "sudo npm -g ..." run for your life. That's a terrible way to install something that's not part of your package manager.
[18:21] <Kilos> what did you break superfly 
[18:22] <Cryterion> rather add the package repository
[18:22] <superfly> Kilos: nothing, because I never do that.
[18:22] <Kilos> ah
[18:22] <superfly> Kilos: but other people do... <Trixar_za> https://github.com/erming/shout
[18:22] <Trixar_za> Point is - IRC can be made to have similiar features. That can support emoticons, embedded pictures and video (from links), pretty much everything that makes mattermost so special.
[18:22] <Trixar_za> Well, the clients for it anyway
[18:23] <superfly> Cryterion: or, create a non-priviledged user and install it in the user account, and then create init scripts or systemd thingies
[18:23] <superfly> Trixar_za: totally, and I agree with you :-) I'm also not really into slack or mattermost
[18:23] <inetpro> superfly: what's that, Node.js stuff?
[18:24] <superfly> inetpro: yes, sortof
[18:24] <inetpro> Trixar_za: I agree, but IRC does not appeal to many people... not sure why
[18:25] <Cryterion> if you don't trust the source, yes agree there superfly, some when you do trust, add repository only then
[18:25] <inetpro> having said that, perhaps I should look into that link of yours above
[18:26] <Trixar_za> The learning curve probably. But clients can be made to simplify it. I remember this one site from when I was a teen, teenchat, that I'm pretty sure used IRC as a backend. The site just simplified the process of joining and creating channels
[18:26] <Cryterion> just a java or html5 client in a browser now
[18:27] <Trixar_za> Still, I'm pretty sure IRC will always survive somehow. It's too stubborn not to survive
[18:28] <Cryterion> The network will always be there, clients will come and go
[18:28] <Kilos> i love irc
[18:29] <Kilos> and that new thing aint got audio alerts
[18:30] <Kilos> and my konversation has emoticons as well
[18:33] <superfly> Trixar_za: yeah, I don't think IRC is going to fade away
[18:37] <MaNI> its still better at some things then many of the new 'alternatives' it just lacks some shiny gimmicks, probably at some point we will see IRC start to add new features and catch up again
[18:37] <MaNI> the industry usually goes in cycles like that
[18:38] <inetpro> I have so many groups on whatsapp with so many different people it's sickening
[18:38] <inetpro> and somehow the masses just use it without needing any training
[18:38] <inetpro> slack and mattermost just add a little bit more structure to it all 
[18:38] <inetpro> and integration with other services makes it just an awesome tool to simplify communication and coordination of projects
[18:39] <Kilos> inetpro may i have permission to sleep now
[18:39] <Kilos> please
[18:40] <inetpro> anybody have anything against Kilos going to sleep?
[18:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:40] <Kilos> thats better than a why anyway
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: go for it
[18:41] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[18:41] <inetpro> :-)
[18:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:41] <inetpro> good night oom
[18:41] <Kilos> ai!
[18:50] <inetpro> oh I see now where that npm comment from superfly comes from
[18:57] <Langjan> Hi inetpro hoe gaan dit?
[18:58] <Langjan> Have you sorted your bugs out?
[18:59] <Cryterion> nope, I got plenty flying around here, you want some?
[19:00] <Langjan> No thks, maybe find somebody who eats them?
[19:01] <Cryterion> That's what I'm trying to do....
[19:01] <Langjan> lmga!
[19:01] <Cryterion> :)
[19:02] <inetpro> hi Langjan, not sure whether they are still there
[19:02] <Langjan> Which emoji is :)?
[19:03] <inetpro> :) is jsut a colon and a bracket
[19:03] <Langjan> Hopefully they will be on their way when the cycle of whatever they do is over...
[19:03] <inetpro> just*
[19:03] <Cryterion> not sure on the emoji's is this better (:
[19:04] <Cryterion> ascii, always works ;)
[19:04] <Langjan> Sorry I thought that :) has a meaning that I still need to learn
[19:04] <Langjan> Never too old to learn
[19:05] <inetpro> ascii rules them all
[19:05] <Cryterion> what does it mean to you?
[19:05] <Cryterion> yep
[19:05] <Langjan> Nothing, just a question mark
[19:05] <Cryterion> :) happy ;) wink :( sad etc
[19:05] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons
[19:06] <Langjan> OK thks, will keep that handy
[19:06] <Cryterion> I still remember looking at ascii artwork, that reminds me, I'll find the link for starwars
[19:07] <Cryterion> maaz: google Starwars Ubuntu Terminal
[19:07] <Maaz> Cryterion: "How to Watch Star Wars in Terminal - Instructables" http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Watch-Star-Wars-in-Terminal/ :: "Watch Star Wars in the Ubuntu terminal - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZ5OUYooHE :: "Top 10 Linux Easter Eggs | DigitalOcean" https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/top-10-linux-easter-eggs :: "Watch ASCII
[19:07] <Maaz> Star Wars movie on terminal ubuntu 11.10" http://ubuntuportal.com/2011/10/watch-ascii-star-…
[19:07] <superfly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqOc8k5kjc
[19:07] <inetpro> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[19:07] <Langjan> Cute!
[19:10] <Cryterion> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[19:10] <Cryterion> in terminal, it waorks
[19:10] <Cryterion> works*
[19:11] <Cryterion> maaz: tell Kilos Put in terminal telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[19:11] <Maaz> Cryterion: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:12]  * Cryterion sees everyone is watching starwars now
[19:13] <Langjan> Link gets a 404 error
[19:14] <Langjan> The one Maaz put up
[19:14] <inetpro> which one?
[19:14] <Langjan> http://ubuntuportal.com/2011/10/watch-ascii-star-…
[19:15] <inetpro> oh that one has clearly been cut off at the end
[19:15] <inetpro> character limits 
[19:18] <Langjan> inetpro, Kilos tried to help and suggested perhaps you would know, am not getting joy trying to reinstall Google Earth in Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[19:19] <inetpro> Langjan: oh my, you're still on that?
[19:19] <Langjan> Welll I gave up last time but yes, still not getting it right
[19:19] <inetpro> what makes you prefer GE over the google maps web interface?
[19:20] <inetpro> we've been talking about it here and the general consensus seems to be that it's a waste of time
[19:20] <Langjan> perhaps I have not tried to make it work yet, going to outlying areas
[19:21] <inetpro> at least a waste of time IMHO
[19:21] <Langjan> IMHO?
[19:21] <inetpro> in my humble opinion
[19:21] <inetpro> somebody, I think superfly, compared it with skype
[19:21] <Cryterion> type in terminal 
[19:22] <Langjan> oh, ok - its just been one of my little playgrounds that I go to now and then
[19:22] <Cryterion> it's a telnet thing, you need telnet before the addr
[19:22] <inetpro> Cryterion: he's talking about Google Earth now
[19:22] <Langjan> Strange that it worked fine until I did the fresh install the other day
[19:23] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:23] <Cryterion> hate it
[19:23] <inetpro> well clearly you need all the dependancies that go with it
[19:23] <Langjan> installing it or using it?
[19:23] <Langjan> the hate thing
[19:24] <inetpro> after all this time it seems google has not learnt to play nice with the open source communities
[19:24] <inetpro> they want all of the cake and are not interested in sharing 
[19:24] <Langjan> I'm just wondering what happened or changed since a few days ago when it was working
[19:25] <Cryterion> think it needed a few extra packages, one being in email one that wasn't in repository that I had to manually install to get it to work, so I stopped there, as why the F does it need that package
[19:25] <inetpro> the right for them would be to submit a proper package in the official repositories
[19:25] <Cryterion> yep
[19:25] <inetpro> right way*
[19:26] <Langjan> Agreed, whats the point of one thats useless
[19:26] <Langjan> Better off without it
[19:27] <Cryterion> the site works fine for me, as does inetpro, so why bother about the app
[19:27] <inetpro> reminds me of the old days of RPM dependancy hell
[19:27] <Cryterion> reminds me of flying eproms around the country
[19:28] <Cryterion> it worked!
[19:28] <Langjan> Is Google maps web interface something more than just Google maps? 
[19:28] <Cryterion> sate images and everything
[19:28] <Cryterion> maps.google.co.za
[19:29] <Cryterion> full functionallity
[19:30] <Cryterion> the app just wants to sky in my opinion
[19:30] <Cryterion> spy* sky
[19:30] <inetpro> not sure what more you need than sattelite, traffic, transit, terrain
[19:30] <inetpro> all available on the web interface
[19:31] <Cryterion> normal map is there, even street view
[19:31] <Cryterion> can take a virtual walk down the road on there
[19:31] <Langjan> I see what you mean, its all there. Thanks
[19:31] <Cryterion> no prob
[19:31] <Langjan> Now you tell me! lol
[19:32] <inetpro> :-)
[19:32] <Langjan> inetpro,  hope your tree survives
[19:32] <Cryterion> inetpro was helping you earlier, I tried to say but only got through now :)
[19:33] <Cryterion> sorry inetpro
[19:33] <inetpro> Langjan: you mean my trees, and I hope so to
[19:33] <inetpro> Cryterion: np
[19:33] <Langjan> OK thanks guys, keep up the good work
[19:33] <inetpro> Langjan: it's actually quite interesting
[19:33] <Cryterion> at least it sorted ;)
[19:34] <inetpro> around the Heatherdale graveyard there are plenty of these trees
[19:34] <inetpro> all look very healty
[19:34] <inetpro> healthy
[19:34] <inetpro> even got out of the car to go inspect and found no beetles there
[19:35] <inetpro> not far away from here
[19:35] <Cryterion> you can even put in specific geo-co-ordinates in the search, and it'll get you there
[19:36] <Langjan> I have found if you boost the trees immunity they become much less prone to bug infestation
[19:36] <Langjan> Same as with humans
[19:37] <inetpro> yep, I probably need to look at feeding them a bit 
[19:37] <inetpro> hi Guest81407
[19:37] <Langjan> Best feed is trace elements from rock dust
[19:38] <Cryterion> depends on what you boost them with
[19:38] <Langjan> and cheapest
[19:38] <inetpro> Langjan: interesting idea, not sure what that means
[19:38] <Cryterion> varies from tree to tree
[19:39] <Langjan> Nature's store of trace elements is in rock, all trees benefit from it, one application lasts for many years
[19:39] <Cryterion> what tree is it inetpro?
[19:39] <inetpro> Cryterion: Karee
[19:40] <Langjan> I wrote a little booklet, can mail it to you - interesting subject
[19:40] <inetpro> that would be Rhus lancea
[19:40] <inetpro> Langjan: wow, that would be very nice
[19:41] <inetpro> you still have my address?
[19:41] <Langjan> let me have your email addres please, I think I did have it but cannot see it now 
[19:41] <Cryterion> has edible berries btw
[19:42] <Langjan> Karee? Did'nt know that
[19:42] <Cryterion> brown-yellow berries
[19:42] <Cryterion> I'm looking it up in one of Kieth Kirsten's books I have on hand
[19:43] <Langjan> Ok inetpro  will you let me have you email please? 
[19:44] <inetpro> Langjan: sent you an email
[19:44] <Langjan> OK thks
[19:45] <Langjan> ok the booklet is there
[19:45] <inetpro> got it, thanks a mill!
[19:46] <Langjan> Enjoy!
[19:46] <Langjan> my plesier
[19:46] <Cryterion> about the best I can offer right now file:///home/cryterion/Pictures/IMG_20160331_214325.jpg
[19:46] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:46] <Cryterion> http://pasteboard.co/2GqY8pY5.jpg
[19:46] <Cryterion> that's better
[19:47] <Langjan> I never spray my fruit trees, when they become vulnerable I just re-introduce some rock dust
[19:47] <inetpro> Cryterion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_lancea
[19:48] <inetpro> Langjan: sounds very very interesting indeed
[19:48] <Langjan> It is, crops like veggies also respond amazingly
[19:48] <inetpro> makes sense as well
[19:49] <Cryterion> well now you know, you can you karee jam and send it off to all of us now ;)
[19:49] <Langjan> Lekker!
[19:49] <Langjan> My wifey will send you the recipe
[19:50] <Cryterion> jam is easy, you need the fruit to do it
[19:50] <inetpro> Cryterion: give him your email address as well
[19:50] <inetpro> am sure you'll enjoy that also
[19:50] <Langjan> Or just orward it
[19:50] <Langjan> forward
[19:50] <Langjan> the booklet
[19:51]  * inetpro don't want to forward without permission
[19:51] <Langjan> no prob
[19:51] <Cryterion> lol
[19:51] <Langjan> hes right spot-on with good ethics
[19:52] <Langjan> OK guys gotta go, enjoy a good night's rest
[19:52] <inetpro> nag oom
[19:52] <inetpro> weereens baie dankie!
[19:53] <Langjan> Goeienag inetpro en my dank aan jou
[19:53] <Cryterion> nag
[19:53] <Langjan> 'gnight Cryterion 
[19:53] <Langjan> slaap lekker
[19:54] <Cryterion> ya ook
[19:54] <Langjan> dankie