[00:03] <dkdeol> where's everybody?
[00:06] <Seldon> I'm learning to use gpg. Anyone use it? The gpg --gen-key command ask me to choice between 4 options
[00:06] <Seldon> (1) RSA and RSA (default)
[00:06] <reductio> Seldon, I use protonmail, have you tried it?
[00:06] <Seldon> (2) DSA and Elgamal, (3) DSA (sign only),  (4) RSA (sign only)
[00:07] <k1l> Seldon: there is seahorse which is a gui for that
[00:08] <Seldon> can't find a guide to explain to me the difference between them
[00:08] <k1l> Seldon: they are different encryption technics.
[00:10] <reductio> they are different crypto algorithms, some people prefer elgamal, buy id say the default is ok
[00:10] <k1l> Seldon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[00:11] <dkdeol> could someone fix my gstreamer? it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[00:12] <k1l> dkdeol: which ubuntu exactly? which program exactly?
[00:12] <dkdeol> k1l: 15.10 / any gstreamer-based
[00:13] <k1l> dkdeol: desktop?`which program _exactly_ ?
[00:14] <dkdeol> k1l: xfce; EVERY program
[00:14] <dkdeol> (every gstreamer based)
[00:14] <k1l> did you make changes to pulseaudio? did you install the codecs?
[00:15] <Seldon> reductio, k1l, i'm interested to the theory too. The howto on the official ubuntu documentation is strictly practical.
[00:15] <k1l> what does syslog tell about that error?
[00:15] <k1l> what happens when you start "every" program in terminal? does it produce any errors?
[00:15] <dkdeol> k1l: syslog?
[00:16] <k1l> dkdeol: you know: details matter a lot. just repeating "my car doesnt work" will not make it easier to help you
[00:17] <dkdeol> k1l: in terminal there is no errors
[00:17] <dkdeol> k1l: and I have no idea what do you mean by syslog
[00:17] <Seldon> for who is interested to the topic, i found this right now: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/72581/new-pgp-key-rsa-rsa-or-dsa-elgamal
[00:17] <reductio> Seldon, the theory gets very complicated, and i don't quite remember the detalis. Its much broader than your question, but in matters crypto i highly recommend dan boneh's MOOC on coursera
[00:17] <k1l> dkdeol: /var/log there is syslog and dmesg as logfiles
[00:18] <dkdeol> there is a lot of junk
[00:20] <reductio> Does anyone here have experience with recordmydesktop? I can't get it to record my audio output :( I've tried changing every setting on alsamixer and kmix, with no success...
[00:22] <dkdeol> i don't see anything sound-related in syslog
[00:23] <poradax> guys
[00:24] <Seldon> It's very late here. See you tomorrow. Thank you all.
[00:25] <poradax> thanks seldon
[00:25] <reductio> seeya Seldon
[00:28] <BenderRodriguez> Big day for Ubuntu today
[00:29] <poradax> why bender
[00:31] <dkdeol> why the channel is dead?
[00:31] <sabotagebeats> because no one needs help rn :)
[00:32] <wjlafrance> Major Microsoft announcement. Ubuntu is basically being packaged as a Windows app and running on Windows. Not a recompile like cygwin. More like a backwards wine to run ELF on Windows.
[00:33] <sabotagebeats> i heard about that
[00:33] <sabotagebeats> what does that even mean
[00:34] <wjlafrance> For actual Ubuntu users? Probably nothing. For this channel? Probably a decent amount of new friends.
[00:34] <compdoc> I heard that too. something about the bash shell when you open a command prompt
[00:34] <sabotagebeats> is that good? lol
[00:34] <sabotagebeats> so wait, is dos going away
[00:34] <compdoc> doubtful
[00:35] <sabotagebeats> so you will just have various command line options i'm guessing?
[00:35] <wjlafrance> I don't think so. I think it's more like "Ubuntu on top of Windows" in the way that wine is "Windows on top of Linux"
[00:35] <sabotagebeats> one will be unix and one will be powershell and one will be dos?
[00:35] <sabotagebeats> oh
[00:36] <wjlafrance> I'm guessing this is #ubuntu-offtopic territory though
[00:36] <poradax> "(
[00:36] <Hydr0p0nX> that's how i read it, ubuntu on top of windows
[00:36] <poradax> linux
[00:37] <dkdeol> sabotagebeats: what dos
[00:38] <poradax> linux
[00:38] <dkdeol> could someone fix my gstreamer? it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[00:38] <poradax> how can i install dolby atmos
[00:40] <Hydr0p0nX> back on topic, anyone help w/ automount bluray, dvd, and cd drive ?  I can get blurays to automount by enabling it in settings but dvd's don't, adding to /etc/fstab makes dvd's automount but not bluray ,  4.2.0-34-generic #39~14.04.1-Ubuntu
[00:41] <Hydr0p0nX> poradax, what do you mean "install" dolby atmos?
[00:41] <poradax> yeah
[00:49] <dkdeol> why the channel is dead?
[00:54] <Hydr0p0nX> poradax, atmos requires a source that supports it and (usually) a receiver that can decode and play it back, there's licensing involved in that
[00:55] <Hydr0p0nX> if you just want it to play back over HDMI or optical, it's just setting the audio out to bitstream or PCM depending on what your receiver handles better
[00:55] <poradax> so how can i do it
[00:55] <Hydr0p0nX> do you have an atmos capale source?
[00:57] <intok> Ubuntu 15.04 64, tried updating Chromium and it tells me that it is in an "inconsistent state" and to try reinstalling it, try that, and it says the same thing, try a removal, same yet again. So now I am left with a Chromium that is completely unusable.
[00:58] <k1l> intok: upgrade your system to 15.10, since 15.04 is dead
[00:58] <intok> eh, I typed the wrong version
[00:58] <poradax> n0
[00:59] <poradax> try ubuntu 14.04 intok
[00:59] <k1l> intok: "lsb_release -d" will show the number
[00:59] <poradax> LTS
[00:59] <poradax> click 'about this computer"
[00:59] <intok> its 15.10, I just haven't had any previous issues
[01:00] <k1l> intok: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[01:00] <k1l> intok: afterwards please mark the output and copy it to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[01:01] <poradax> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade|pastebin
[01:02] <HetroErectus> kil: i use regular chrome btw, for the ability to play online video which alot lacks in chromium
[01:02] <HetroErectus> id just remove chromium and install chrome
[01:02] <k1l> chromium can play online videos too.
[01:03] <HetroErectus> it can but several sites it cant
[01:03] <HetroErectus> netflix forexample didnt run
[01:04] <HetroErectus> cause it use copyrighted video which chromium is allergic too
[01:04] <HetroErectus> which is fine in a way, but since i use netflix i had to make the switch
[01:10] <HetroErectus> oh sorry, my messages were for intok
[01:10] <HetroErectus> anyway thats my suggestion
[01:13] <intok> heres the current error dump http://pastebin.com/vLvJVRMg
[01:14] <k1l> intok: sudo apt purge chromium-browser
[01:16] <intok> Still errored on purge http://pastebin.com/WN6ZMydV
[01:17] <k1l> intok: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq chromium-browser
[01:19] <mykhailyk> Hey, do you guys consider Ubuntu as an Operating System? Or only Linux kernel is an operating system ?
[01:20] <k1l> mykhailyk: such philosophic questions are better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:22] <floopsi> Hey all.
[01:24] <dkdeol> could someone fix my gstreamer? it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[01:26] <CodeS3c> hi
[01:27] <Revian1> I have an app that seems to prevent the computer from shutting down. I hit the shutdown button and the computer goes to a black screen and stays there until I hit the power button, then shuts down. The app is Plank (Ubuntu repos). How do I solve this?
[01:27] <Revian1> I'm guessing Plank doesn't exit cleanly
[01:28] <CodeS3c> how to remove EFI partition in ubuntu ?
[01:29] <Revian1> !info plank
[01:33] <dkdeol> why the channel is dead?
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> N
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> i
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> g
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> g
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> e
[01:38] <Honeysuckle> r
[02:09] <wafflejock> Revian1: should probably just search for or file a bug with plank if you're sure it only happens when that's running
[02:10] <Revian1> wafflejock: I'm pretty sure. I try to remember to exit Plank before a shutdown and the issue disappears. That, and others have stated the same experience.
[02:11] <wafflejock> Revian1: someone on SO said it happened to them with that program too http://askubuntu.com/questions/558975/ubuntu-hanging-on-shutdown-reboot
[02:11] <wafflejock> Revian1: no upvotes so not sure if it really works but they posted a possible workaround
[02:11] <Revian1> wafflejock: Oh, nice. Thank you!
[02:12] <wafflejock> np let me know if it works out or not
[02:13] <wafflejock> always curious for future reference, personally using Gnome and Dash to Dock extension right now... oh is Plank a new version of Docky?
[02:15] <Revian1> wafflejock: Ah, yes, I see the reference to Plank and the solution looks to be a good one. Thanks again
[02:16] <wafflejock> yup no prob, looks like Plank and Docky are just similar but not the same exactly can't tell though
[02:16] <Wicaeed> When using NIC bonding, does the balance-rr option require any special switch configurations to recognize the bond? Will balance-rr bonding work if you have one port (of a dual port NIC) on a separate TOR switch?
[02:17] <Wicaeed> I imagine with using the 802.3ad option and wanted to do a cross-switch LACP config, you are required to run either Cisco VPC or an MLAG on the upstream switches
[02:18] <dkdeol> my gstreamer has suddenly broken. it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[02:22] <feneco> none of the nvidia drivers worked :(
[02:24] <Revian1> wafflejock: Yes! Adding the line 'X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=13' to the .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart works perfectly :)
[02:24] <Bashing-om> feneco: What card ? Hybrid graphics ?
[02:24] <wafflejock> Revian1: sweet! :) glad to hear it
[02:25] <feneco> Bashing-om: nvidia gtx 560
[02:28] <Bashing-om> feneco: I dount what I find .. lemme double check .. what returns ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga  ' ?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> doubt*
[02:33] <devfulano> oi
[02:35] <zanduba> Alguém do Brasil?
[02:35] <feneco> Bashing-om:
[02:36] <zanduba> ?
[02:36] <dkdeol> where's everyone?
[02:36] <Revian1> !portuguese
[02:36] <zanduba> i'm asking the same thing
[02:36] <zanduba> Thanks ubottu
[02:36] <feneco> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/vd2f
[02:40] <Bashing-om> feneco: I am convinced. see: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us . Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver . only available in PPA or in 16.04 .
[02:40] <feneco> Bashing-om: can't I install manually?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> feneco: By manually you mean as a download from nvidia ? that is the means of last resort .
[02:42] <krabador> ubunìtu devs made an official ppa for nvidia drivers
[02:42] <SchrodingersScat> official ppa? that sounds conflicted
[02:43] <Bashing-om> krabador: A fact ^ and they have the 361 version driver .
[02:43] <feneco> Bashing-om: I see, but I can't get the nvidia driver to work via additional utility on 14.04, so I gotta try to install manually
[02:44] <feneco> I tried all the available options, and all led to the same situation
[02:44] <krabador> that https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:44] <feneco> and I can't do anything
[02:44] <Bashing-om> feneco: That is easy peasy .. IF an OEM install has not been attempted .
[02:46] <feneco> but to tell you the truth, I have no hope it will work with the 361, I tried all official options and didn't work
[02:46] <lee_G750jm> hello all
[02:47] <Bashing-om> feneco: Faint heart never won fair operating system .
[02:47] <lee_G750jm> any familiar with apparmor
[02:47] <lee_G750jm> one
[02:47] <feneco> as the next release of Ubuntu is so close, I think I will wait a bit, and try again later
[02:47] <feneco> for now, I can use nouveau
[02:48] <Bashing-om> feneco: If you are gamming .. the 352 version driver may have  limited vdpau decoding support .
[02:48] <feneco> I plan do some gaming Bashing-om
[02:49] <feneco> so, better option should be wait a bit for 16.04 release
[02:49] <Ben64> or use the ppa shown above
[02:49] <Ben64> or, install 16.04 now
[02:49] <Bashing-om> feneco: K, 16.04 repo does contain the 361 driver . http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-361&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all .
[02:50] <feneco> what would be the difference between nvidia-driver and nvidia-driver updates?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> feneco: Minor patches . Else would be a new version number .
[02:53] <feneco> Bashing-om: so I just download the .deb and install?
[02:53] <Ben64> no
[02:53] <feneco> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/nvidia-361/download
[02:53] <Ben64> no no no
[02:53] <feneco> Ben64: why not?
[02:53] <Ben64> because you're not on 16.04
[02:57] <feneco> so I should not install these drivers on 14.04?
[02:57] <Ben64> feneco: the nvidia drivers for linux added support for the GTX 560 nearly 5 years ago, in version 275.09.07
[02:57] <Ben64> so the ones in 14.04 will work
[02:57] <dkdeol> my gstreamer has suddenly broken. it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[02:59] <feneco> Ben64: the problem is that they aren't working, so should be something else, I guess
[02:59] <JUDAS_GOAT> i was p stoked to see Amazon selling Ubuntu Notebooks and Tablets
[02:59] <Ben64> feneco: is it a desktop? laptop? multiple graphics cards?
[02:59] <JUDAS_GOAT> anyway the free shipping alone...also You get $15 credit, how could you not sign up? https://www.amazon.com/gp/prime?_encoding=UTF8&ref=mrp_10002_shr_cpbd_rf_d&refcust=NAYMSO7HV45IDDZ3I6QUFUHRCE
[02:59] <Ben64> JUDAS_GOAT: stop that
[03:00] <feneco> Ben64: it's a desktop, only the nvida gtx 560
[03:00] <Ben64> feneco: then it will work
[03:00] <feneco> Ben64: when I use the additional drivers utility to install and reboot, after the login screen, the desktop freezes
[03:00] <feneco> so it's not working
[03:01] <Ben64> what do you mean the desktop freezes
[03:02] <feneco> Ben64: yes, also the mouse and keyboard don't work, and the unity sidebar gets default color, no transparency
[03:03] <Ben64> maybe try using not unity
[03:05] <feneco> it's what's built in
[03:05] <Bashing-om> feneco: Are you fully updated ?
[03:05] <feneco> Bashing-om: yes
[03:07] <Spider> unity is the best thing thing to hit a computer screen since the mouse cursor
[03:07] <dkdeol> no.
[03:08] <feneco> nothing against Unity, it works well with nouveau, but some animations lags, something I don't expect on a GTX560
[03:08] <Spider> i was joking btw
[03:11] <dkdeol> why is this channel dead?
[03:11] <feneco> for now I will wait the 16.04 release
[03:11] <feneco> then try again
[03:12] <feneco> thank you Ben64  Bashing-om
[03:12] <feneco> thanks krabador
[03:12] <Ben64> feneco: it probably won't change anything...
[03:13] <SchrodingersScat> dkdeol: it comes and goes like the tide, no one can explain it, like the tide.
[03:13] <feneco> Ben64: if ti doesn't work, I will try another distro
[03:13] <Ben64> feneco: or you can solve it now
[03:13] <feneco> what else could I do?
[03:13] <Spider> dkdeol, the chan is dead because everyone is too busy enjoying windows 10
[03:13] <feneco> Ben64: any ideas on what could I try now?
[03:14] <Ben64> i already gave you a suggestion
[03:15] <Spider> try ubuntu mate
[03:15] <feneco> Ben64: to use this https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa or install 16.04 beta?
[03:15] <Ben64> yep, or not use unity
[03:16] <dkdeol> i remember in 2013 people were chatting nonstop here
[03:16] <Spider> mate is actually decent
[03:16] <Ben64> dkdeol: this isn't a chat channel, it's support
[03:16] <SchrodingersScat> !support | dkdeol
[03:19] <feneco> Ben64: after adding this ppa, the driver will show up on additional drivers utility?
[03:19] <Ben64> maybe. you could install the package by name though
[03:24] <dkdeol> my gstreamer has suddenly broken. it doesn't produce any sound and isn't shown in the mixer app list
[03:26] <dkdeol> year of linux on desktop my $%^
[03:35] <feneco> Ben64: what do you mean by not use unity?
[03:39] <krabador> feneco, a pleasure.
[03:48] <yanlf> hi
[03:48] <gabr13l> hi
[03:53] <jwash> hi everyone, i can connect to services like my znc and ftp server on my local network on my server, but not from outside. my router is successfully forwarding other services to other computers, any ideas where ican start checking to resolve the issue?
[03:53] <jwash> i disable my firewall and still get nothing from the outside
[04:12] <greydron> Hi guys. Could you recommend me where I could find any site which explains IRC at beginner level?
[04:14] <Triffid_Hunter> greydron: hmm, like RFC1459?
[04:35] <de-facto> WTF? *Native* ubuntu linux programs like bash on windows 10 without virtual machine? http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
[04:35] <gr33nbits> any way already to control radeon opensource drivers fan speed?
[04:35] <flyback> is it hard to recompile the whole distro with cpu specific optimizations?
[04:36] <de-facto> is that an early april fools joke or do those guys at MS really open to the linux worlds?
[04:36] <flyback> OH FUCK ME
[04:36] <flyback> I HATE APRIL 1ST
[04:36] <flyback> cause it's days and days
[04:36] <flyback> and days and days
[04:36] <flyback> of not being able to read news
[04:36] <flyback> I HATE IT
[04:36]  * flyback blames canada
[04:38] <flyback> guess I am getting old
[04:38] <flyback> just don't find it funny anymore
[04:38] <NoteOn> Hi
[04:38] <de-facto> flyback if you really are after recompiling a whole distro you will probably waste a load of more time and energy than if you just go for the binaries for your arch
[04:39] <dax> what on earth
[04:39] <roygbiv> ??
[04:39] <dave0x6d> Did something just come out?
[04:40] <flyback> that's what she said?
[04:40] <dave0x6d> Got a notice about userspace Ubuntu on Win10.
[04:40] <roygbiv> heh
[04:40] <flyback> yeah that was on slash earlier
[04:40] <flyback> either amazing or I smell a canuck
[04:40] <dax> flyback: #ubuntu, as you are very much aware, is for Ubuntu technical support. Take the other nonsense elsewhere.
[04:40] <dax> NoteOn: don't notice the channel, thanks
[04:41] <dave0x6d> dax: is NoteOn an OP?
[04:42] <dax> dave0x6d: no
[04:42] <dave0x6d> Oh. Can't you disable notices?
[04:42] <dax> dave0x6d: no
[04:43] <gr33nbits> still no way to control radeon fan speed with opensource drivers i guess, sadly have to change profile to low or Ubuntu will burn the card
[04:43] <NoteOn> notice? sorry im not good for english..
[04:44] <dax> NoteOn: don't do whatever you did to send "From the Canyon Edge: Ubuntu on Windows -- The Ubuntu Userspace for Windows Developers" to the channel, then
[04:45] <NoteOn> ok ic.
[04:45]  * flyback notes dax must not been laid longer than him
[04:45] <flyback> shessh
[04:50] <jak2000> win10 on ubuntu?
[04:50] <jak2000> how to work this?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> jak2000, wait for the official announce like the rest of us
[04:50] <KnownSyntax> lol
[04:50] <cfhowlett> also: note the date
[04:50] <KnownSyntax> Maybe one day, Windows will be a hybrid OS, part Linux, part DOS, but full open sourced.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> in the meantime, in the real world, the topic of this channel is ubuntu support.
[04:54] <jak2000> in win 10 display a cion named: ubuntu?
[04:54] <cfhowlett> jak2000, ask #windows about ubuntu support on windows
[04:55] <reisio> jak2000: a cion?
[04:55] <dax> jak2000: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support. #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss are for non-support chat.
[04:57] <jak2000> *icon
[04:58] <reisio> jak2000: your question is hard to interpret
[04:58] <jak2000> dax ok
[05:20] <dixiannyshoepp> hi, anyone knows how to update the system using a folder? have a folder with updated packages. and actualize the system with that folder.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> dixiannyshoepp, what kind of packages?? and why not use the standard update process?
 deb packages. I want to create a URL to a folder and use it as a repository.
[05:23] <dixiannyshoepp> cfhowlett, deb packages. I want to create a URL to a folder and use it as a repository.
[05:24] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal, dixiannyshoepp
[05:28] <jsgrant> If there is a "Ubuntu Certification" webpage, does that likely mean that the uefi implementation and hardware is good-to-go for most other Unix-like Linux Distros?
[05:28] <jsgrant> Page of interest, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201305-13633/
[05:28] <cfhowlett> jsgrant, that page references *ubuntu* not other OS.
[05:29] <jsgrant> cfhowlett: Well, yeah, but the inference I think is a relatively reasonable one to make?
[05:30] <jsgrant> The "Standard images of Ubuntu may not work at all on the system or may not work well, though Canonical and computer manufacturers will try to certify the system with future standard releases of Ubuntu." bit has me a bit worried, either way.
[05:30] <dixiannyshoepp> cfhowlett, gracias
[05:30] <cfhowlett> dixiannyshoepp, happy2help!
[05:31] <jsgrant> But I'm assuming that's just a compulsory line of legalese.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> jsgrant, that alone should be sufficient to inform that other OS are not covered by the certification.  long story short, make a test USB of your favorite OS, go to the store and boot it up.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> or select a known *nix friendly device
[05:33] <jsgrant> cfhowlett: Well not to be covered by certification, yeah, but fair. I guess the kicker is seeing if that box of interest is on the floor, and too if I a worker will allow me to boot inot a live session. :^P But, I guess if it's worth the effort I'll TIAS regardless, yeah.
[05:33] <cfhowlett> oh, you mean *ask* permission?   :)
[05:34] <shinoda> Hi, can anyone tell me how to turn off the dragging effect that takes place when you hold Alt on a window? It interferes with my usage of a program
[05:35] <jsgrant> Yeah, as said though, not even sure if it's on the floor to go the good-boy route or not; Just saw the box on-sale for a "good enough" 300 usd. Says "in-store only", but that doens't mean there's a display unit out. :^P
[05:38] <cfhowlett> jsgrant, if there's a service counter, ask to see the display model?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> I choose a demo model in an obscure corner and go to town :)
[05:40] <jsgrant> cfhowlett: Yeah, this shop I go to is typically pretty educated; So if they have a box up and running, they'll probably have a guy that would let me do everything above board and that.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> sweet!  I'd suggest a actual live session test then.
[05:41] <jsgrant> Still eyeing up if this box is the best bang for buck, I can pick up next-day. I'm between that, or just trying to live off a RPi3 as a desktop. Which isn't horrid, but the lack of mem is horrid.
[05:42] <jsgrant> Wow, I'm doing that sleep-deprived, echo phrasing thing. :^I
[05:43] <hateball> shinoda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/521423/how-can-i-disable-altclick-window-dragging
[05:53] <shinoda> How do I get newly installed programs to show up in my Unity Dash?
[05:56] <baizon> shinoda: they will show up automatically after dash has done a refresh, or you can log out and back in to make it manually
[06:07] <unicornjedi> I need some help with kodi,,. Their support channel are like barren. Can someone PM me?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, kodi?  not an ubuntu OS so not supported here
[06:08] <hateball> cfhowlett: You can run Kodi on Ubuntu
[06:08] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett: kodi is based off ubuntu... Im asking for a PM
[06:08] <unicornjedi> so I don't clog this channel
[06:08] <hateball> I am assuming this is Kodi the media player?
[06:09] <unicornjedi> hateball: sure?
[06:09] <unicornjedi> can you pm me? if you know about it?
[06:09] <hateball> unicornjedi: Well is the problem running Kodi on Ubuntu, or is the problem running another distro specifically built for running Kodi?
[06:10] <unicornjedi> the latter?
[06:10] <unicornjedi> this is pointless goodbye
[06:10] <hateball> Heh
[06:11] <reisio> well he was right
[06:11] <cfhowlett> well - that escalated quickly
[06:11] <reisio> it is pointless to not specify the problem
[06:11] <reisio> :p
[06:17] <newbsduser> hello, iam looking for a test utility for generating accounting requests for freeradius server, i tried radtest but it generates authentication requests... i also asked it in freeradius channel but i wanted to ask it here, too
[06:18] <cfhowlett> perhaps a question for #ubuntu-server ... as I have zero idea what you are talking about ...
[06:20] <Scooty> ubuntu on windows 10, what does that really do?
[06:21] <hateball> !ot | Scooty
[06:21] <cfhowlett> Scooty, wait for official announcement and release.
[06:23] <klasa1it> helo
[06:23] <Scooty> @cfhowlett I guess I'll have to, if no one knows about it...cygwin came to my mind quickly and I wonder if there are significant advantages
[06:24] <klasa1it> hi
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Scooty, consider it to be in beta at present.  we will see.
[06:24] <cfhowlett> klasa1it, we see you.  ask your ubuntu question
[06:29] <trento_fan> someone recently told told me; 'linux is best best when you're drunk, and windows is best when you're sober.'
[06:30] <trento_fan> thank god i'm drunk alot
[06:30] <trento_fan> - 1 best
[06:30] <cfhowlett> !ot | trento_fan please
[06:31] <trento_fan> sorry
[06:33] <Scooty> cfhowlett, thanks
[06:33] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Scooty
[06:47] <Tetsuo55> hello, could you help me update my ubuntu 14.04 git version from 1.9.1 to 2.8.y
[06:51] <kulelu88> Hello
[06:51] <kulelu88> How do I 'correctly' setup a network bridge for an LXC container ? Both my container and host are ubuntu 14.04
[07:00] <kulelu88> _crazy_girl_: why are you sending private messages?
[07:03] <Raikia> bash is coming to windows 10 :-o whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
[07:05] <somsip> !ot | Raikia
[07:05] <Raikia> yes, i am aware, if you read the article, canonical is helping msft with it, hence why its relevant to ubuntu
[07:06] <Raikia> *facepalm*
[07:06] <cfhowlett> its beta so not supported here
[07:06] <cfhowlett> so OT
[07:06] <kulelu88> it's a support channel, not a banter one. that 1 is #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:06] <somsip> Raikia: it's not an ubuntu support issue though, so please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <Raikia> ok
[07:07] <ajay_> HI
[07:09] <kulelu88> is the flockport method the only way of creating a network bridge: https://www.flockport.com/lxc-networking-guide/ ?
[07:18] <Han> It seems flockport is just a nice frontend.
[07:23] <lee_G750jm> hello all
[07:23] <yellabs-r2> hi
[07:23] <yellabs-r2> nice to see you
[07:23] <yellabs-r2> ask if you have a quest
[07:23] <stacy-> need help with a joomla template
[07:24] <stacy-> hi yellabs.. can you please help me with joomla?
[07:24] <kulelu88> stacy-: try #joomla
[07:24] <stacy-> kuleu88.. i havent had a response from #joomla for 3 days
[07:25] <Guest76635> hello
[07:25] <Guest76635> i have a bootable usb how can i format that ?
[07:25] <Guest76635> i have a bootable usb how can i format that ?
[07:25] <Guest76635> i have a bootable usb how can i format that ?
[07:26] <yellabs-r2> i dont know joomla that well, more a wordpress fan
[07:26] <dax> stacy-: that doesn't make joomla on-topic for here
[07:26] <stacy-> any joomla part time expert in here? please message me
[07:27] <dm_> hi i am dm could you please give me a linux registration code?
[07:27] <dax> what
[07:28] <Guest76635> i have a bootable usb how can i format that ?
[07:28] <Guest76635> in terminal
[07:28] <dm_> i have a hardware question but must get a registration code for linux mint
[07:28] <dax> dm_: so ask the Linux Mint people? This is #ubuntu
[07:28] <dax> Guest76635: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXY, adjust XY to the relevant partition label
[07:28] <dm_> yeah wish i was still running unbuntu
[07:29] <llutz> dm_: its still free, get a copy and install
[07:29] <kulelu88> stacy-: I'll see if I can help. let me join joomla channel
[07:29] <Guest76635> dax, how can i know my usb name in terminal ?
[07:29] <stacy-> thanks kulelu
[07:30] <stacy-> kulelu..can you also suggest some other content managagers for use with ubuntu
[07:30] <dm_> think i will, I really preferred it to the mint esp cinnamon
[07:30] <yellabs-r2> stacy
[07:30] <yellabs-r2> there is someone for you in joomla channel
[07:30] <geirha> Guest76635: sudo fdisk -l
[07:30] <yellabs-r2> good luck
[07:32] <trijntje> Guest76635: you should be able to format a disk from the file manager
[07:32] <geirha> Guest76635: That lists all hard drives, including usb ones
[07:32] <thibaud_> Question. Why is Ubuntu distributed insecurely by default? The download page with ISO, checksums, and signatures is served over plain HTTP, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/ . And the key server hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com uses HKP which uses HTTP on TCP port 11371 which is plain text too. It's the TOFU problem of trust on first use.
[07:33] <Guest76635> i cant forrmat from file manager
[07:33] <trijntje> thibaud_: ease of use I'd guess, if you want a secure download you can use the torrent download
[07:34] <Guest76635> hey
[07:34] <Guest76635>  /dev/sdb1p2
[07:34] <thibaud_> The workaround is to manually go over HTTPS to https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xEFE21092 but the average user won't know.
[07:34] <Guest76635>  /dev/sdb1p2
[07:35] <Guest76635> what should i do to format from terminal i have 2 part
[07:35] <llutz> thibaud_: the average user doesn't care
[07:35] <trijntje> Guest76635: install gparted, its a graphical program to format stuff. If you do it from the terminal you might mess up
[07:35] <geirha> Guest76635: Doesn't look like you're on ubuntu there ...
[07:36] <thibaud_> llutz: correct, the average user doesn't care. But it's irresponsible for Canonical to provide a major Linux distribution insecurely by default.
[07:36] <trijntje> thibaud_: but I agree its silly to use http, maybe you can file a bug against the ubuntu website?
[07:36] <llutz> thibaud_: so go and inform canonical about that
[07:36] <thibaud_> trijntje: Yes, I will.
[07:37] <Guest76635> geirha, i am on ubuntu
[07:37] <thibaud_> llutz: I will file a bug report. I have seen lots of complaints on forums though. I am starting to believe it is done on purpose as a backdoor for state agents.
[07:37] <thibaud_> Most of their website is served over HTTPS (good), whereas the critical part - ISO, checksums, signatures, keys - are served insecurely.
[07:37] <trijntje> thibaud_: meh, unlikely, clever people can use torrent to download ubuntu, which has built-in checksums
[07:38] <Guest76635> i dont have a good internet at moment
[07:38] <Guest76635> how can i do that in terminal
[07:39] <thibaud_> trijntje: what about the average user? If we want non techie people to adopt Linux and Ubuntu then we must do so securely. And if we talk about security then we must take care of that part too.
[07:39] <trijntje> thibaud_: I agree, I was just refering to your comment about evil state agents. Most users don't even verify the md5sum
[07:40] <thibaud_> It's one more argument against Canonical.
[07:40] <trijntje> if you don't trust canonical, you cant use ubuntu anyway
[07:40] <hateball> Sometimes I wonder why !ot even exists
[07:40] <llutz> thibaud_: non-techie people give a s.... on thinks like security
[07:41] <llutz> things
[07:41] <thibaud_> trijntje: Yes, there are many problems with Canonical and Ubuntu, non free software, breach of privacy, etc.
[07:41] <trijntje> but again, I agree that canonical is wrong to serve these files over http, so please file a bug
[07:42] <thibaud_> llutz: so it is up to us to let non techie people about the risks of downloading Ubuntu insecurely
[07:42] <thibaud_> lluts: * to let them know
[07:42] <trijntje> and I also agree with hateball that this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <Guest76635> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1p1
[07:42] <Guest76635> mke2fs 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
[07:42] <Guest76635> Could not stat /dev/sdb1p1 --- No such file or directory
[07:43] <thibaud_> why is this offtopic?
[07:43] <llutz> thibaud_: this is for technical support
[07:43] <cfhowlett> thibaud_, this is the support channel.
[07:44] <thibaud_> Are the Download page and VerifyIsoHowto not part of tech support?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> thibaud_, you obviously feel passionately about this.  suggest you 1.  file a bug  2. propose the fix.    ranting / complaining in this channel *will not* lead to changes.
[07:45] <Guest76635> Could not stat /dev/sdb1p1 --- No such file or directory
[07:45] <Guest76635> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1p1
[07:45] <Guest76635> mke2fs 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
[07:45] <Guest76635> Could not stat /dev/sdb1p1 --- No such file or directory
[07:45] <trijntje> thibaud_: bashing canonical isn't, just discuss it it offtopic please
[07:45] <thibaud_> cfhowlett: Mostly, I wanted a confirmation from techie people that this problem is indeed present. I'll do as suggested. Thanks.
[07:46] <geirha> Guest76635: /dev/sdb1p1 is not a valid device node in ubuntu
[07:46] <cfhowlett> happy2help! thibaud_
[07:46] <trijntje> Guest76635: you are going to wreck your system, I agree with geirha: your not even running ubuntu
[07:47] <Guest76635> what do you say this ?
[07:47] <Guest76635> i am on ubuntu 14.04
[07:47] <trijntje> Guest76635: what is the output of lsb_release -a
[07:47] <geirha> Guest76635: then where did you get /dev/sdb1p1 from?
[07:47] <Guest76635> No LSB modules are available.
[07:47] <Guest76635> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[07:47] <Guest76635> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[07:47] <Guest76635> Release:	14.04
[07:47] <Guest76635> Codename:	trusty
[07:48] <llutz> Guest76635:  /dev/sdb1p1 is a partitioned partition, how did you create that?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> inception partitioning ... ?
[07:48] <Guest76635> my friend got my usb flash
[07:48] <trijntje> are you on a raspberry pi? I think they use the p1 format
[07:48] <Guest76635> he has xp
[07:48] <Guest76635> windows xp
[07:48] <cfhowlett> off-topic *and* a dead OS.  your friend is not helping here ...
[07:48] <Guest76635> i see my usb flash in this mode now
[07:49] <Guest76635> i used sudo fdisk -l
[07:49] <trijntje> Guest76635: install gparted, its much easier to use
[07:50] <llutz> Guest76635: is there anything on the usb-flash you still need? if not, just remove all partitions using fdisk and create 1 primary new
[07:50] <trijntje> it will show you your own harddisk and the usb drives, and let you format it any way you want
[07:52] <Guest76635> dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[07:52] <Guest76635> what is problem i see when i open gparted
[07:55] <Guest76635> dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[07:56] <rocketeer> Hi, PowerTOP claims that my latop is eating nearly ten watts for the wifi alone: p 9.16 W     94.4 pkts/s                Device         Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi)
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Guest76635, sudo gdisk -l
[07:58] <Guest76635> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8
[07:58] <Guest76635> Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2.
[07:58] <Guest76635> The specified file does not exist!
[07:58] <Guest76635> what should i do ?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> no mention of gpt?
[07:59] <rocketeer> Interestingly, it claims that the laptop as a whole is only consuming 9.09 watts, so clearly something is amiss. power statistics (from the dash) gives a third (and seemingly unrelated) number. Any ideas?
[07:59] <Guest76635> i dont know what is problem on my usb flash
[07:59] <cfhowlett> Guest76635, this is an ubuntu boot USB?
[08:00] <Guest76635> cfhowlett, yes
[08:00] <Guest76635> what should i do?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> then it should not even be formatted ext4!  delete all partitions, format the drive as ntfs / fat32 and use the startup disk creator to make a proper ubuntu USB
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !USB
[08:02] <Guest76635> cfhowlett, i just need to format that
[08:02] <cfhowlett> see the link
[08:02] <Guest76635> i created it bootable i need to fornat that
[08:02] <cfhowlett> you did it wrong
[08:04] <Guest76635> i need to run in terminal
[08:04] <Guest76635> i need to delete all data on it
[08:04] <Guest76635> but i cant
[08:04] <RongXian> which command to search user?
[08:05] <llutz> RongXian: getent passwd <username>
[08:06] <RongXian> i mean irc
[08:10] <RongXian> llutz: thanks anyway
[08:17] <soupnanodesukar> Is this for real, or am I being april fooled? https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/53782889
[08:18] <soupnanodesukar> I've been seeing Windows supports Linux natively stuff for the last 24 hours.
[08:18] <hateball> That's great, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[08:18] <soupnanodesukar> Either this has to be most elaborate April fools joke ever, or Microsoft has lost its marbles.
[08:19] <Seveas> soupnanodesukar: if it's an april fools, they have the right people on the inside of it. Very credible people are talking about their work with it.
[08:19] <Seveas> but we won't know until tomorrow, so let's stick to ubuntu-on-linux support for now :)
[08:20] <soupnanodesukar> Oh, okay. I honestly thought it was a joke.
[08:21] <Myrtti> !ubuwin
[08:21] <mia_> Hi all, how can I list all of the devices that are connected to the same router via ubuntu
[08:21] <mia_> it does not have to be a console command
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: tnx for the trigger :p
[08:22] <mia_> can be an app as well I'll be using it through the desktop interface
[08:22] <Myrtti> lotuspsychje: not mine ;-)
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: for spread then :p
[08:22] <Myrtti> don't overdo it tho :-P
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: wanna join discuss also?
[08:22] <Myrtti> lotuspsychje: I would, if I'd be interested to discuss it :-P
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> like you wish
[08:24] <Myrtti> I've not used Windows for over 10 years, so my knowledge and interest on the subject is limited to 'aha"
[08:24] <macopython> Is there a way to remove current command output ? I used echo -e "\033c\e[3J" but it all previous command history. Any help ?
[08:25] <Myrtti> macopython: 'clear'
[08:25] <macopython> It keeps previous history of same command
[08:25] <hateball> macopython: I gave you a suggestion yesterday which you promptly ignored
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: its not for that i asked to join discuss, because other volunteers have gathered there :p
[08:26] <macopython> hateball what was that ? I might did it by mistake.
[08:26] <hateball> macopython: "cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history && history -c && exit"
[08:26] <hateball> macopython: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/191999/how-to-clear-bash-history-completely
[08:27] <macopython> I want to clean screen output
[08:27] <macopython> of current command
[08:27] <macopython> I don't want to clear history
[08:28] <hateball> Then I don't get what you're asking, if neither "clear" or deleting bash history does what you're trying to do
[08:30] <macopython> wait
[08:30] <macopython> Let me show you
[08:30] <llutz> macopython:you mean if you run "cmd1 ; cmd2 ; cmd3" you want to clear only output of cmd2 but keep all the rest?
[08:31] <hateball> macopython: If you don't want to show the output of a command, you can redirect it to /dev/null
[08:32] <hateball> such as "ls > /dev/null"
[08:32] <macopython> I have python utility which gets data from server every 2 second. At a time screen shows command of output but if you scroll up it shows old output too.
[08:32] <macopython> Currently I am using "clear"
[08:33] <macopython> Which just gives me feel of live updating data but the previous data remains on screen buffer
[08:33] <hateball> Reduce the backscroll in your terminal, or have the python app issue clear before outputting new results then
[08:34] <macopython> I am clearing previous output using "clear" from python
[08:35] <zzarr> hello! I have bought a laptop of a friend, I'm going to install a ssd in it, I was wondering if I should use full disk encryption or not
[08:35] <soupnanodesukar> macopython: use subprocess.Popen and don't pass stdout to the subprocess. Use the returned value's communicate method.
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: your own choice, do you need encryption?
[08:36] <macopython> soupnanodesukar: Subprocess to execute "clear" comand ?
[08:37] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, I know, but is it stable?
[08:37] <macopython> soupnanodesukar: See the idle behavior at http://gifmaker.cc/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2016033015uQqMoPvZ7Fcek6JlNrAAN7&file=output_XTdcwh.gif
[08:37] <zzarr> I have read much about issues with corruption
[08:38] <zzarr> I don't need encryption, but I thought I'd test it
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: encryption should work fine...
[08:38] <macopython> I executed ltop command, it showed real time output. When I press Ctrl + C to stop it. It hides everything and just display ltop: Goodbye
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: but if you not really need it, i would not go for it
[08:40] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, no, you're right
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: in my opinion, sensitive data should not be on a daily use pc but stored external
[08:42] <zzarr> lotuspsychje, in that case I'm doing it right in your opinion, nice to hear :-)
[08:43] <pewmuh> lotuspsychje: i agree with sensitive data being stored externally, would you recommend VeraCrypt?
[08:44] <zzarr> I thought of it more like a test of a feature then that I really need to protect my data
[08:44] <mcphail> macopython: if you want to fully control what is shown or removed from the terminal, you may require to program something with the (n)curses library or read a lot about terminal control codes. Neither is a simple task and is going to take some time and effort on your part
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> pewmuh: didnt test this before, cant find on repos?
[08:45] <pewmuh> it's a fork of TrueCrypt
[08:45] <macopython> mcphail: I see
[08:46] <llutz> pewmuh: it wasn't audited yet, so either you trust it and use it, or not
[08:46] <pewmuh> llutz: true
[08:47] <mcphail> macopython: remember the standard terminal just mimics a line-fed printer
[08:50] <macopython> mcphail: Ok.
[08:50] <pewmuh> the output of "sudo cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sdb1" on my encrypted flash drive using DISKS in Trusty shows the hash spec being sha1 ...what the frig? this isn't 2005!
[08:51] <nrosvall> so, ubuntu is coming to windows 10
[08:51] <macopython> llutz, mcphail, hateball, soupnanodesukar, Myrtti: Thanks all for help
[08:51] <nrosvall> that is. weird.
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | nrosvall
[08:52] <macopython> ubottu: Wow
[08:52] <macopython> Eventually Microsoft may acquire Ubuntu :)
[08:53] <nrosvall> Hope not.
[08:53] <robotroll> lol
[08:53] <macopython> Why not nrosvall?
[08:53] <macopython> Ubuntu is great but I heard that canonical is not doing well financially
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> k1l: can you check if this is normal behaviour on ubottu: wow ?
[08:54] <mcphail> macopython: nrosvall: please follow the bot's instructions. This discussion is not on-topic in this channel
[08:54] <llutz> lotuspsychje: "wow" from world of warcraft
[08:54] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: old world of warcraft factoid
[08:54] <nrosvall> Well canonical sucks at selling anything, I think.
[08:54] <macopython> Sure mcphail. Sorry for that
[08:54] <anes_pa> friends , can use sqlite3 for an app which distributed through .deb packages?
[08:54] <nrosvall> mcphail, true, sorry
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> llutz, mcclurmc but should it spam in channel with a !trigger?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> without
[08:55] <k1l> lotuspsychje: yep, that is normal behaviour.
[08:55] <llutz> lotuspsychje: ? ubottu was addressed
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:55] <Myrtti> anes_pa: most probably yes, unless they've done stuff wrong
[08:56] <macopython> By "Wow" I mean to say "I wondered"
[08:56] <macopython> Nothing related to World of Warcraft
[08:56] <anes_pa> Myrtti:  my application is a daisy player
[08:56] <anes_pa> Myrtti: i need to store the Recently played books
[08:56] <llutz> macopython: unfortunately the bot makes no difference :)
[08:57] <macopython> llutz: I see
[08:57] <josemotanet> hi everyone, i'm getting a hash sum mismatch for some sources. Is anyone facing the same issue as of today?
[08:57] <adrian_1908> hello. If I have a  "failed to fetch (...) Hash Sum mismatch" during apt-get update, it's usually something temporary to just wait out, right?
[08:57] <anes_pa> Myrtti: the application normally use pickle for purpose
[08:57] <anes_pa> Myrtti:  but if we use sqlite3 is it good?
[08:57] <k1l> adrian_1908: yes
[08:58] <adrian_1908> ok, thanks.
[08:58] <anes_pa> Myrtti:problem is i don't know it's exact usage
[08:58] <Myrtti> anes_pa: I can only give you an answer on that on general level. If they've not done things stupidly, if the app is built to require sqlite3 and you've installed sqlite3 via package management, and the audio app via deb, it probably should work unless they've done things horribly wrong
[09:00] <anes_pa> Myrtti:  we need to create database programmatically?
[09:01] <Myrtti> anes_pa: I've never used the app you're talking about, or know how it's used. All I said was that if the app requires sqlite3, it probably works fine with the one installed from the package management. If you want help with an app that can't be installed via the normal routes, you need to ask for support from them.
[09:05] <ZoderUgg2> hi
[09:06] <ZoderUgg2> i have a mod_mono apache configuration that works with monoserver4, and if i disable the mod_mono  then the  configured fastcgi php does work.   I would like to make sure if .php then  fastcgi should work, now the .php is catched by the mono mod
[09:09] <ZoderUgg2> hi
[09:10] <ZoderUgg2> who could help with mono server as fastcgi?
[09:10] <hateball> ZoderUgg2: Seems more likely in #apache or #ubuntu-server
[09:10] <ZoderUgg2> aha ok
[09:22] <pblock> Hi, I was using LDAP user account but LDAP server crashed this morning. Is it still possible to use my account? I still have my home directory.
[09:23] <NTQ> What do you think about Plesk as an administration interface for an Ubuntu server?
[09:24] <mantrado> macopython: you could always exit the terminal and come back in
[09:30] <kLOs> anyon ehere using ssmtp with gmail?
[09:30] <kLOs> since today i'm getting auth error for some reason :-/
[09:31] <llutz> kLOs: get a app-specific password from gmail, use that
[09:31] <kLOs> i have that
[09:31] <kLOs> i'm using it for ages but just today it stopped working
[09:31] <kLOs> i'm reading something about missign tls certificates but not sure if that the issue
[09:31] <kLOs> also not sure why simply today it stops working...
[09:32] <unlokerd> Alguien Español?...
[09:32] <Myrtti> !es | unlokerd
[09:32] <Seveas> kLOs: did you set you raccount to enable less secure apps (which is google-speak for anything not using 2fa)?
[09:33] <kLOs> maybe not let me check
[09:33] <kLOs> thanks
[09:33] <unlokerd> ok. Gracias
[09:36] <kLOs> doesnt seem to be relevant when using 2 step authentication
[09:36] <yossarianuk> hi - if you are in the unfortunate position of having to connect to an exchange server for work what is the best way of doing so nowadays via Linux/Ubuntu ? not done so for years....
[09:36] <kLOs> anyone knows where to find ca-bundle.crt in ubuntu?
[09:37] <Triffid_Hunter> kLOs: my odroid has it at /usr/share/apps/kssl/ca-bundle.crt
[09:38] <kLOs> thanks but that seems to be different
[09:38] <hateball> yossarianuk: web client?
[09:38] <kLOs> seems to be this here /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[09:44] <llutz> yossarianuk: maybe http://davmail.sourceforge.net/index.html
[09:44] <kLOs> mhm still ntohing
[09:44] <kLOs> :(
[09:44] <yossarianuk> cheers - i guess i'll just experiment until I find a good solution - used to use evolution...
[09:45] <kLOs> maybe i should try postfix....
[09:49] <llutz> kLOs: if you have a cert-problem, postfix won't fix it
[09:50] <kLOs> ye
[09:50] <kLOs> if i have a cert problem
[09:50] <kLOs> i dont know tbh
[09:50] <kLOs> why would i have it out of the blue
[09:50] <yossarianuk> I assume ubuntu is dead now after yesterdays news....
[09:51] <yossarianuk> anyone who 'partners' with Microsoft doesn't last long...
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | yossarianuk
[09:51] <llutz> yossarianuk: so as windows was dead, after wine was developed?
[09:52] <yossarianuk> wine didn't partner with them...
[09:53] <k1l> yossarianuk: we focus on actual support issues in here. please use #ubuntu-dicsuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <engmmrj> Behdad
[09:57] <dennisd> Is there an ubuntu alternative to FreeNAS? I try to minimize the OS flavors on a bunch of servers, by migrating as much as possible to ubuntu, but I can't seem to find a decent NAS interface (compared to FreeNAS).
[09:59] <k1l> dennisd: what services do you want? ubuntu can run most (if not all) services, too
[09:59] <geertn> join #raaf
[10:00] <kLOs> i fixed it
[10:00] <kLOs> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36323790/ssmtp-no-longer-works-invalid-response-501-5-5-4-helo-ehlo-argument-myemaila
[10:00] <kLOs> had to change the hostname to localhost
[10:01] <dennisd> k1l: actually the services for zfs are not the problem. I'm looking for a decent web interface which interacts with them.
[10:05] <mobius1> anyone able to help me setup a sftp on ubuntu server 14.04. Tried following some guides but it doesnt seem to be working
[10:05] <k1l> mobius1: the ssh-server already includes a sftp server
[10:06] <mobius1> ok maybe i worded it wrong. configure :)
[10:07] <hafiz> hi
[10:14] <geek876> Hi all, wanted to know how ext4 would return files from a folder to application ? Will it be alpha-sorted by default or un-predictable ? We migrated from BTRFS to EXT4 and our application (tomcat) is reading config files (from a directory) in non-alpha, random order. With BTRFS, it used to always load them in alpha-order which is what is expected by app server.
[10:15] <tytan> Hello everyone, I have a computer containing an Intel i7 4790K on an ASUS Z97-P with 16GB DDR3 memory. At the moment I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS amd64. My rootfs is on a 2.5" S-ATA SSD and I want to upgrade to a M.2 NVMe SSD. I plan to upgrade when Ubuntu 16.04 LTS amd64 is released. Will this work?
[10:15] <mcphail> geek876: different filesystems do this differently. It is the responsibility of the client software to clean it up
[10:16] <mcphail> geek876: from my experience, HFS and NTFS return in a different order from ext4
[10:17] <hateball> tytan: You'll still need to clone your OS, regardless of 14.04 or 16.04
[10:17] <geek876> mcphail: Thanks. Are there any mount flags in ext4 or other mechanism to force it to be in one way or other ? We want alpha-sorted order
[10:17] <tytan> So no native installation on that?
[10:17] <hateball> tytan: Well it's up to you. You could do a clean install and migrate userdata.
[10:18] <hateball> tytan: Or you could clone old device to new device, and then re-purpose old device for whatever you wish
[10:19] <tytan> hateball: Well, all my user related stuff is located on a server so a fresh installation is what I'm looking for =) I just wanted to make sure I know what I'm doing when I upgrade. do you think I could clone the OS using dd and resync?
[10:20] <hateball> tytan: Yes that should be no problem. I personally use clonezilla since it's simple and uses partclone instead of dd when possible
[10:21] <hateball> tytan: and if you're looking for a clean install... well then you wont be cloning
[10:23] <mobius1> so anyone able to help me configure my sftp? i am trying to configure my sftp to have 1 user with complete access to the entire hdd and another to be limited to 1 dir.
[10:23] <mobius1> I have tried following guides and end up with either the server refusing to connect or it connecting but not displaying anything
[10:24] <mcphail> geek876: not that I know of. As I said, it is the responsibility of your software to deal with this correctly
[10:25] <mcphail> geek876: I've debugged a couple of popular programs which ignored this and had subtle bugs as a result
[10:29] <hary_poter> tired of jews, lies, poverty and bad sound? add me to qox. my id is EEEDE72B6187425700FCA07D1B3FC2D49C6C5B6BDAEFA819D35976E8860B2E7DFDF6FC49EAF5
[10:30] <taserian> @search joel spencer
[10:31] <soupnanodesukar> geek876: look up qsort
[10:34] <bowersbros> Hey, I just ran ubuntu-support-status on my machine, but the dates seem a bit strange. Can anybody help me understand it, have i got config issues?
[10:34] <bowersbros> http://pastie.org/10780431
[10:34] <mcphail> hary_poter: please take your spam and your hatred elsewhere
[10:35] <hary_poter> mcphail: shut up racist
[10:35] <hateball> bowersbros: have you release-upgraded the machine? perhaps there are legacy packages you have not removed.
[10:35] <hateball> bowersbros: Have you ran "sudo apt-get autoremove" recently? If not you could do that and re-run ubuntu-support-status
[10:35] <bowersbros> No i haven't. it is a 2 day old Digital Ocean droplet though. Shouldn't be out of date (?)
[10:35] <hateball> hmmm
[10:36] <hateball> well, no idea what sort of image a VPS provider might deploy
[10:36] <bowersbros> http://pastie.org/10780439
[10:36] <bowersbros> Nothing to be removed
[10:37] <mcphail> ikonia: thanks
[10:37] <ikonia> sorry for missing it in the first place
[10:39] <JediMaster> hi guys, I'm trying to benchmark a network filesystem and wondering how I can see where a bottleneck is? I've got a 1GB file created with dd using urandom, I can easily see the time before/after cp'ing the file from the local disk to the network drive, but as this is a VM with a disk on a SAN I'm thinking the 'local' drive on the VM may be the bottleneck, what's the best way of testing read speed and write speed alone?
[10:40] <ikonia> JediMaster: use something like dd to write to the local file system to get an idea of through put
[10:41] <hateball> JediMaster: there are tools like bonnie++ to benchmark
[10:41] <JediMaster> ikonia, what would you use as the source for dd, /dev/zero for pure speed?
[10:42] <ikonia>  /dev/zero ?
[10:42] <ikonia> and to be honest "pure speed" doesn't matter, what does matter is throughput
[10:42] <JediMaster> ikonia, dd if=/dev/zero of=...
[10:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: the path to the file sytem you want
[10:43] <JediMaster> yes, I was trying to point out that if the 'in file' was a slow device it would skew the benchmark for writing
[10:43] <ikonia> JediMaster: no it won't
[10:43] <ikonia> as you'll see a lower read rate,
[10:44] <ikonia> so you'll know your read is slower
[10:44] <ikonia> and you'll know you have a problem to fix first
[10:44] <JediMaster> ikonia, what I mean is that dd only shows the throughput and not read & write speed
[10:45] <ikonia> JediMaster: right, but you're supposed to watch it via things like iostat and vmstate to judge what your machine is running
[10:45] <ikonia> dd is just the enabler
[10:45] <ikonia> I assumed you where monitoring your machine if you're doing diags on i/o throughput
[10:48] <JediMaster> ikonia, dd if=/dev/zero of=zero-data-test-file.dat bs=1048576 count=1024 produces 571MB/sec, with /devc/urandom it's 9MB/sec
[10:52] <hxm> exists an alternative to beep command?
[10:52] <frostschutz> urandom is slow, even on very fast machines...
[10:52] <geirha> hxm: to do what?
[10:53] <hxm> to execute a beep sound in the pcspeaker
[10:56] <geirha> dunno. pcspeakers are rare these days; most things will just use the sound system
[10:57] <k1l> bowersbros: run it with attached "--show-unsupported"
[11:04] <ikonia> JediMaster: why is that a surprise ?
[11:08] <b00b00> hello
[11:09] <b00b00> whats the best practice to extract from a line sperated with spaces 1 column (space from each side i call column that case) based on a string equal to "some_pattern" ? thanks
[11:10] <b00b00> i gues awk could do that, anyone know how?
[11:10] <bowersbros> k1l: Sorry for delay: http://pastie.org/10780511
[11:11] <geirha> b00b00: If it's just one line, you might as well use the shell
[11:14] <geirha> b00b00: or do you mean extract the first field of all lines matching "some_pattern"? then yes, awk.  awk '/some_pattern/{print $1}' file
[11:18] <R13ose> Hi
[11:19] <R13ose> How do I get my mouse pointer back after this disappeared?
[11:22] <k1l> bowersbros: that might be stuff from universe or from 3rd party installs
[11:22] <february> hello
[11:28] <Ron11> HI, How can I diable ubuntu 14.03 lts interent connection
[11:28] <Ron11> apt-get works for me
[11:28] <Ron11> although curl does not work
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Ron11  can you ping 8.8.8.8
[11:29] <Ron11> no
[11:29] <Ron11> But apt-get works
[11:30] <february> check internet
[11:30] <Swani> how do i force to install a backport Package in ubuntu?
[11:30] <Ron11> How can I make sure that I disconncted?
[11:30] <ikonia> apt-get maybe going through a proxy
[11:31] <ikonia> ping/imcp is not a fair test
[11:31] <ikonia> Ron11: explain your setup
[11:31] <Ron11> i did
[11:31] <Ron11> I have a proxy
[11:31] <Ron11> I did
[11:31] <ikonia> you did what ?
[11:31] <Ron11> export http_proxy=""
[11:31] <Ron11> export https_proxy=""
[11:31] <Ron11> export ftp_proxy=""
[11:32] <ikonia> what's your question then ?
[11:32] <Ron11> I can use apt-get
[11:32] <Ron11> when I try
[11:32] <ikonia> yes, because it's http traffic
[11:32] <Ron11> apt-get insall cowsay
[11:33] <Ron11> it's works
[11:33] <Ron11> I want to disable any connection from the internet
[11:33] <Ben64> unplug the cable
[11:33] <hateball> pull the plug
[11:33] <Ron11> I read that in the previous versions
[11:33] <ikonia> it's not connected to the internet
[11:33] <ikonia> is your question "how do I stop apt using a proxy"
[11:33] <llutz> Ron11: grep -r Proxy /etc/apt/*
[11:33] <Ron11> nmcli nm enable false
[11:33] <ikonia> is your question "how do I stop apt using a proxy"
[11:34] <Ron11> grep -r Proxy /etc/apt/*  I get empty
[11:34] <Ron11> "grep -r Proxy /etc/apt/* " , I get empty
[11:34] <ikonia> is your question "how do I stop apt using a proxy"
[11:34] <Ron11> My question is how to disable internet via command
[11:35] <ikonia> it is disabled
[11:35] <Ron11> terminal command
[11:35] <ikonia> why do you think it's not disabled
[11:35] <Ron11> such as http://askubuntu.com/questions/434660/disable-internet-connection-from-terminal
[11:35] <ikonia> why do you think it's not disabled
[11:35] <Ron11> because apt-get is working
[11:35] <ikonia> because you have set the proxy variable
[11:35] <ikonia> as I've said 4 times now
[11:35] <Ron11> yes
[11:35] <ikonia> so it will go out of the proxy
[11:35] <ikonia> because you've told it to
[11:36] <Ron11> but my proxy is empty
[11:36] <ikonia> no it's not
[11:36] <ikonia> you've set http_proxy
[11:36] <ikonia> apt is http traffic
[11:36] <Ron11> How can I check if I have values in it?
[11:36] <ikonia> you just told me you set it
[11:36] <victor> hola
[11:36] <Ron11> No,
[11:36] <ikonia> what are you checking now ?
[11:36] <llutz> Ron11: echo $http_proxy
[11:36] <Ron11> I set it to null
[11:36] <ikonia> ok - this is not for me
[11:37]  * inteus facepalms
[11:37] <Guest51808> alguna chica de habla ispana?
[11:37] <ikonia> Ron11: what is the default gateway of the machine
[11:37] <Ben64> Ron11: what do you actually want to do? what is your goal here?
[11:37] <Ron11> thank you llutz
[11:37] <Ron11> My goal is
[11:37] <Ron11> to connect the ubuntu computer just over ssh
[11:37] <Ron11> and to disconnected from the internet
[11:37] <ikonia> put up a firewal
[11:37] <Ron11> I want to install packages via salt
[11:37] <Ben64> ssh requires network
[11:38] <Ron11> ufw enable?
[11:38] <ikonia> or change the router to stop routing your traffic
[11:38] <ikonia> or talk to the person who maintains salt
[11:38] <ikonia> and ask him to exclude your machine
[11:39] <Ron11> ikomnia thank but you didn't understand what I wrote
[11:39] <Ron11> thank you
[11:39] <ikonia> pretty sure I do
[11:39] <ikonia> you want your machine on the network - but not accessible to internet/from internet sources ?
[11:39] <Ron11> yes
[11:39] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[11:39] <Ron11> but How can exclude my machine from salt
[11:40] <ikonia> Ron11: so then my comments are valid
[11:40] <ikonia> Ron11: you talk tot he person who maintains your salt setup
[11:40] <Ron11> What's is the meaninig of it
[11:40] <Ron11> I want to check salt
[11:40] <ikonia> or you do the other steps I've said
[11:40] <Swani> how can i activate backports for ubuntu 14.04?
[11:40] <ikonia> meaning of what ?
[11:40] <ikonia> Ron11: who maintains your salt infrastructure ?
[11:40] <Ron11> to exclude my machine
[11:40] <Ron11> I did
[11:40] <ikonia> you can't
[11:40] <Ron11> and do :)
[11:40] <k1l> !backports | Swani
[11:41] <ikonia> as you don't seem to understand it
[11:41] <k1l> Swani: you need to name the backports while installing. its explained in the link
[11:41] <Ron11> ikonia, what is the exclude will give me
[11:42] <Ron11> I want to check if the salt-master will connect with the ubuntu computer just with ssh
[11:42] <Ron11> to confirm it
[11:42] <Ron11> What is the meaning of exclude it from salt
[11:42] <Ron11> ?
[11:44] <Ron11> I turn on the ufw to be enable
[11:44] <Ron11> and apt-get is working
[11:44] <Ron11> sudo ufw default deny outgoing
[11:44] <Ron11> also try it
[11:44] <Ron11> What can be the problem?
[11:46] <Ron11> ?
[11:46] <Swani> k1l thx seems there i no newer package even in backports
[11:47] <Ben64> Swani: not every package is in backports
[11:47] <Ron11> If I am using chmod 0 /usr/bin/apt-get
[11:47] <Ron11> is it good enoght?
[11:47] <Ron11> enough
[11:48] <bekks> Ron11: What are you trying to do?
[11:48] <bekks> Using chmod 0 is the wrong way, for whatever you are trying :)
[11:48] <k1l> Ron11: that doesnt make sense at all
[11:48] <k1l> Ron11: what do you want to do? right now it looks like you want to damage the system
[11:48] <Ron11> disable any connection
[11:48] <Ron11> disable apt-get
[11:48] <bekks> Ron11: Why?
[11:49] <bekks> Ron11: What are you actually trying to achieve?
[11:49] <Ron11> I want to make sure I have any connection to internet
[11:49] <Ron11> to install any package
[11:49] <Ron11> s
[11:49] <Ron11> or curl
[11:49] <bekks> Ron11: Why dont you want updates?
[11:49] <Ron11> or wget
[11:49] <k1l> Ron11: disableing apt-get is dumb if there is another connection to the internet since you miss all securtiy updates then
[11:49] <bekks> Ron11: And dont press enter as a punctuation sign.
[11:49] <Ron11> This is a computer the I clone from VM
[11:50] <Ron11> It's for checking
[11:50] <bekks> Ron11: That doesnt make sense at all.
[11:50] <Ron11> I need to be able to connect this computer just over ssh
[11:50] <bekks> Then use host-only networking.
[11:50] <Ron11> Why?
[11:50] <bekks> Because you are trying to shoot your knees, both of them , simultaneously.
[11:50] <Ron11> Why is refers to tyour previous note
[11:51] <Ron11> Yes
[11:51] <Ron11> It just for testing
[11:51] <bekks> Good luck then.
[11:51] <k1l> Ron11: then block all connections in the ufwiptables except the ssh port.
[11:51] <R13ose> How do I get my mouse pointer back after this disappeared?
[11:51] <bekks> You have been warned
[11:51] <Ron11> How can I do it?
[11:51] <Ron11> I did
[11:51] <Ron11> sudo ufw default deny outgoing
[11:51] <Ron11> but it does not work
[11:52] <Ron11> How can I disable the connection to outside except ssh via ufw?
[11:52] <baizon> Ron11: take gufw and configure it
[11:53] <Ron11> and why chmod 0 /usr/bin/apt-get isn't good?
[11:53] <bekks> Because that will not disable any connections, but break your package manager.
[11:54] <Ron11> yes
[11:54] <Ron11> I know
[11:54] <Ron11> to make sure apt-get disable
[11:55] <Ben64> but then the rest of the internet still works, you just have no security updates = bad
[11:55] <Ron11> I disable the proxy
[11:56] <Ron11> curl not working
[11:56] <bekks> Ron11: That doesnt disable connections.
[11:56] <Ron11> ufw is enable
[11:56] <bekks> You are trying to break your system, not disabling all connections.
[11:56] <Ron11> ok
[11:56] <Ron11> What can I do to make sure
[11:56] <Ron11> that I haven't any connection?
[11:57] <bekks> You have been told what to do.
[11:57] <Ron11> How can I set it via ufw?
[11:57] <bekks> That question was answered as well.
[11:57] <k1l> Ron11: configure (g)ufw or iptables
[11:57] <Ron11> sudo ufw default deny outgoing
[11:57] <Ron11> I asked if this command isn't good enogh
[11:57] <Ron11> ?
[11:57] <Ron11> enough
[11:57] <bekks> Ron11: You are asking the same things again, as just a few minutes ago.
[11:57] <k1l> Ron11: no
[11:58] <bekks> Read the answer you have been given please.
[11:58] <Ron11> I don't see it
[11:58] <Ron11> Can you please copy and paste again
[11:58] <Ron11> ?
[11:58] <bekks> How about just reading the answers? :)
[11:59] <Ron11> I read
[11:59] <Ron11> But I don't see any comment about the command
[11:59] <bekks> because no one gave you a specific full command.
[11:59] <bekks> You have been told to use ufs or gufw.
[11:59] <bekks> And you have been told to disable all connections but ssh.
[12:04] <chayon> Best IRC Client for ubuntu?
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> chayon  try a way, choose the one you like most
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> few*
[12:06] <heral462> Depends on the definition, "best". for an average user or..? I would say xchat.
[12:06] <R13ose> oh my
[12:06] <pavlos> hexchat works well
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> !irc
[12:06] <vitimiti> heral462, XChat is quite deprecated compared to its fork, HexChat, which you should recommend instead
[12:07] <heral462> maybe i should try that too.
[12:21] <ptr_2> hello friends, I have got quite a big problem with Ubuntu and I wanted to ask some advanced users for help here
[12:21] <ptr_2> if you have some time to spare for me I'd be grateful
[12:22] <l4m8d4_> ptr_2: just ask your question
[12:22] <BlackDex> ptr_2: just ask
[12:23] <ptr_2> okay, so first I have to say that currently I have no access to the system because right now I have only one computer available and I have to be on Windows to talk to you guys
[12:23] <ptr_2> but my problem is
[12:24] <ptr_2> I recently wanted to instal realtek audio drivers for Linux and failed because of incomplete documentation (translated from chinese by what I assume to be google translate)
[12:24] <ptr_2> and I followed some steps from the internet to reinstall Alsa or Pulseaudio (I can't remember all of the steps, I didn't save the website)
[12:25] <ptr_2> and then when I rebooted Ubuntu I saw that I've got only "dummy output"
[12:25] <ptr_2> the thing is, Ubuntu recognizes my devices when I use that command which displays them in the terminal window (I forgot the command exactly but you probably know which command it is)
[12:26] <ptr_2> so then I read that it's good to reinstall (after purging) alsa
[12:26] <ptr_2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1121805
[12:27] <ptr_2> I followed the advice of the user markbuntu here
[12:27] <ptr_2> post #3
[12:27] <ptr_2> after installing gdm and rebooting I no longer could've seen the login screen, the screen was black
[12:28] <ptr_2> using CTRL+F1 I was able to log in so everything works back-end, it's just the front-end that was missing
[12:28] <Ben64> that's a lot of really weird stuff to do to solve a seemingly unrelated problem
[12:28] <ptr_2> oh and when I was installing gdm it asked me to select between two options
[12:29] <Ben64> yeah, gdm isn't the default anymore
[12:29] <ptr_2> "gdm" and "light[...]" (i don't remember the second option fully)
[12:29] <Ben64> you're using a post from nearly 7 years ago
[12:29] <ptr_2> yes, so I guess that's why I couldn't see the login screen
[12:29] <meena> ah, right.
[12:30] <Ben64> i also don't see a scenario in which you purge alsa to end well
[12:30] <ptr_2> when I reinstalled gdm I used the "light[something]"option which probably was the default before installing gdm, this allowed me to see the login screen again, everything went back to normal.... but after inputing my login data i was stuck in a login loop, it just kept coming back to the login screen
[12:30] <ptr_2> yes, I will take care of alsa later
[12:30] <ptr_2> I need to fix the login problem first
[12:30] <ptr_2> I can login with the console mode by using CTRL+ALT+F1
[12:31] <Ben64> easy mode - reinstall ubuntu
[12:31] <ptr_2> I just am stuck in a login loop when I try to login from the graphical representation of that login
[12:31] <ptr_2> and please forgive me for those phrases that aren't exactly correct, I am a noob in Ubuntu, first time user
[12:32] <ptr_2> I planned on reinstalling it, but do you know of any fixes, even if it means it's gonna be a bit of work?
[12:32] <ptr_2> I think I want to learn something before I try to reinstall it, even if it means breaking it even more
[12:33] <ptr_2> I guess I won't learn anything if I don't break anything
[12:33] <Ben64> ok well, in removing alsa you've likely broken your system. it seems very unlikely that you'd need to "reinstall audio drivers". drivers in linux are in the kernel or modules, it's not like windows.
[12:33] <ikonia> I'm not sure this is a good learning exercise
[12:33] <auronandace> ptr_2: practising by breaking stuff is probably a better approach when confined to a VM
[12:34] <ptr_2> auronandace: do you suggest I can break something hardware-wise why trying to fix this problem?
[12:35] <auronandace> ptr_2: if you have important data on your laptop then it is bestto confine the damage to a VM
[12:35] <ptr_2> it's on my second drive, all important data is on my first one
[12:35] <auronandace> ptr_2: a VM can be a good practise ground, but as has been said breaking stuff is not the best way to lean
[12:36] <Ben64> what you should learn is not to run things posted on a forum 7 years ago
[12:36] <Ben64> this channel is always open, and offers much more recent advice
[12:36] <auronandace> ptr_2: you should be relieved that you are not experimenting with partitioning then
[12:36] <ptr_2> yes, I forgot to check the date
[12:37] <mikepapa> What channel I can look for help with virtual machines?
[12:37] <popey> mikepapa: depends what kind of help
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> mikepapa  start here
[12:37] <popey> mikepapa: ask your question
[12:39] <l4m8d4> popey: Is this the popey from LAS btw? Not that I want to disturb the channel, but...
[12:39] <popey> yes
[12:40] <ptr_2> I am curious, what is LAS?
[12:41] <l4m8d4> popey: Thanks for participating there and for your work on ubuntu, you're a big win for the show and ubuntu - I just felt the need to say that :D
[12:41] <Justus> hi, I'm looking for a way to manage a couple of input video streams (h264) on an ubuntu server, preferably remote
[12:41] <Justus> does anybody know software I could use for that purpose
[12:41] <Justus> ?
[12:41] <popey> thanks l4m8d4
[12:41] <popey> Justus: OBS?
[12:41] <mikepapa> Ok. I'm not good with that, so I decided to use Virtual Machine Manager. Nice GUI, etc. I managed to install Ubuntu in guest, and now I'm trying to give it access to graphics card. I've read several articles on that, and confirmed that IOMMU should work on my system. Vd-t is on, etc. Now when I add device in Virtual Machine Manager to guest it shous up there (is listed by lspci), but I cannot find any way to actually make it work.
[12:41] <popey> Justus: https://obsproject.com/
[12:41] <Justus> @popey: isn't that with a UI?
[12:42] <mikepapa> Is it possible to do PCI Passthrough using VMM?
[12:42] <popey> Justus: yeah
[12:42] <bekks> mikepapa: Because when you enable that, you'd instantly would have no graphical access anymore on your host.
[12:42] <Justus> well, as I said ubuntu _server_
[12:42] <ptr_2> Justus: IIRC it has an API
[12:42] <popey> Justus: ok, that doesn't mean "no gui" but fair enough
[12:43] <ptr_2> Justus: if I am right you can run it without GUI if you use it's API, I suppose it could work with Python but I never read the documentation
[12:43] <mikepapa> bekks: host works with Intel build-in GPU. I don't use nVidia on host. I believe I should somehow detach it from host. I was hoping VMM will do that for me.
[12:44] <Justus> ptr_2: sounds like a looooot of tinkering ^^
[12:44] <deus_> hi guys.
[12:44] <ptr_2> Justus: not really if you ever programmed anything in your life
[12:44] <ptr_2> Justus: I guess it's just simple API calls to start/stop streaming or recording
[12:45] <bekks> mikepapa: you cannot detach it, since then the vm would have no access to it. You need to unload all drivers, though.
[12:45] <average> http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
[12:45] <average> Canonical & Microsoft merger maybe ?
[12:45] <average> ^^
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> average  we know of it ... #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:46] <average> MonkeyDust: so you're sending me to offtopic because I'm talking about Ubuntu ?
[12:47] <average> an interesting suggestion
[12:47] <popey> it's not a support question average
[12:47] <popey> this is a support channel
[12:48] <deus_> can someone tell me the name of that terminal run Media player again? it wasnt mkv...
[12:48] <popey> moc ?
[12:48] <mikepapa> bekks: so I need to blacklist that. Actually I see that nVidia uses vfio-pci driver. Did I mess up something on the way, when I was trying to do this without VMM? Or it's ok?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> deus_  mpv
[12:49] <deus_> AH! ofcourse thx !
[12:49] <bekks> mikepapa: Where do you see that?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> deus_  asketh and thou shalt be answered
[12:49] <mikepapa> bekks: on host "lspci -vv"
[12:50] <deus_> its the linux way ^
[12:50] <trijntje> deus_: mpd?
[12:50] <deus_> no mpv was correct ^ already installed it
[12:51] <mikepapa> bekks: what's even worse. I can see, that my nVidia uses nouveau on guest. So it actually got correct driver there. But still I have no way to get any video on it.
[12:51] <bekks> mikepapa: So the card is already in use by the guest.
[12:51] <bekks> mikepapa: You could try using nvidia in your guest.
[12:53] <mikepapa> bekks: Yeah. I'll try to do that. At the moment, when I switch monitor source it goes to power save mode. So there is no signal from nVidia at all.
[12:53] <bekks> mikepapa: Do you see any boot output when on that monitor when booting your vm?
[12:54] <mikepapa> bekks: no. Only on vm's fake cirrus video.
[12:54] <bekks> mikepapa: did you disable/unconfigure that cirrus stuff?
[12:55] <mikepapa> bekks: Now I did. let's see.
[12:56] <mikepapa> bekks: no signal. On either DVI, or HDMI port.
[12:56] <rilleh> §
[12:56] <rilleh> Woops, sorry
[12:58] <instigator> Hello. is it possible to use the diff command to only show the difference between 2 files without showing other details such as 4,5d3 or <
[13:01] <Pici_> instigator: like diff -y  filea fileb  ?
[13:09] <deus_> hey guys, wasnt there a way to have a starter for MPV in your menu ? i remember having it like that in my Gnome installation and i could just drag videos onto the window
[13:10] <ikonia> what's mpv ?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !mpv
[13:10] <deus_> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Mpv/
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> info mpv
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> !info mpv
[13:11] <lee_G750jm> no more vlc
[13:11] <deus_> vlc is too bloated xD
[13:11] <lee_G750jm> :(
[13:13] <deus_> so no1 knows? damn. wanted to get a newcomer to use mpv, but he wont fiddle with the terminal. too unsure
[13:14] <ikonia> can you not just create a shortcut on the luancher ?
[13:14] <ikonia> launcher
[13:14] <deus_> mpv doesnt stay open without input. or is there a command for it to just open empty?
[13:15] <ikonia> don't you need the gui wrapper
[13:15] <ikonia> eg: mplayer was the commandline, but there was a gtk front end to launch it
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> deus_  navigate to /usr/share/applications/ ... drag the mpv icon to the launcher
[13:15] <deus_> ah. so its actually there just not in the launcher? let me check monkey.
[13:17] <deus_> aha! thx again monkey! u R best!
[13:17] <minimec> deus_: It makes no sense to create a launcher mpv. I would rather change the 'open with' settings in the file manager for the movie files.
[13:18] <deus_> correct, but this is for a linux newby who is used to start the prgram first
[13:18] <deus_> so if he cant find it in the menu... he might ghet scared ^
[13:19] <adrian_1908> deus_: can't he just click on video files to play them? that's how I use mpv.
[13:19] <Haris> hello all
[13:20] <Haris> I have trusty on a box. now, someone added an additional LAN IP to it, via GUI. I can't find it anywhere in /etc/network/interfaces or in output of ifconfig. where did its config go ? I can ping the IP, but as far as its being on the system, I cannot verify it via shell ?
[13:20] <minimec> deus_: But still. He can't do anything with that starter. You might create a zenity script that opens a box and he can maybe drag a file in. I am not even sure wether something like this is possibl.
[13:20] <deus_> ofcourse.. but you know Windows krills ;) he basically wants to have a tangible program. if it only appears when he interacts with other files but he cant look at it or do something with it on its own, he will most likely say: nah! better use VLC ! thats at least a program!
[13:21] <deus_> oh no. monkeys idea from above worked. the icon is in the usr/share/applications
[13:21] <deus_> if you click it, u get an empty window with a message to "drag something in"
[13:21] <Haris> guys ?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:22] <cfhowlett> !patience | Haris
[13:23] <minimec> deus_: Oh. Didn't know that... What versioni of ubuntu you use. I don't have that launcher in /usr/share/applications fo mpv, using 14.04
[13:23] <lee_G750jm> ok need a project  eggdrop or  scrapy
[13:23] <deus_> Ubuntu MATE 15.10
[13:23] <minimec> deus_: Ok. thx
[13:25] <BluesKaj> howdy all, again
[13:25] <Pici> lee_G750jm: what?
[13:26] <mcphail> Haris: Ubuntu has used networkmanager for years. The /etc/network/interfaces file isn't used byt default. If you edit /etc/network/interfaces, networkmanager will be disabled. There is a command line interface to networkmanager
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj
[13:26] <Haris> how can I check existing configured IPs ? I'm concerned, the config done may not survive a box reboot
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hey MonkeyDust
[13:27] <hateball> Haris: ifconfig
[13:28] <Haris> ifconfig output doesn't show the additional IP
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Haris, where are they configged?
[13:28] <Haris> I have screenshot of it having been done via GUI, from the remote tech team
[13:28] <Haris> I can ping it. but I can't find it configured via ifconfig output
[13:29] <BluesKaj> try ip addr
[13:29] <hateball> Haris: is it eth0 or some such? It could be in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[13:29] <Haris> I'm logged in to shell as root. but I'm not sure where the config was done
[13:29] <Haris> or if it it'll survive a cold reboot
[13:29] <Haris> hmm
[13:29] <Haris> should be eth0:0
[13:30] <Haris> ok, its present in file under that path on one box. will that config survive a cold reboot ?
[13:30] <Haris> *whew*
[13:31] <hateball> That's the idea
[13:31] <BluesKaj> hateball, dhcp or static?
[13:31] <hateball> BluesKaj: Hmm?
[13:32] <hateball> If it's configured static the IP should be noted for that particular connection
[13:33] <BluesKaj> hateball, i use static ips on my router for all devices on the lan
[13:35] <iputra> how to change wlp8s0
[13:36] <iputra> how to change netword interface name ?
[13:37] <sunlit> Ahoy. Is there a way to limit CPU speed when it starts overheating? I'm running 14.04 on an AMD Phenom 9550 (and it shut down yesterday due to heat from using darktable.)
[13:37] <bekks> iputra: Why do you need to change that?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> iputra  first: dmesg | grep -i eth ... notice 'rename' ... then read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/217635/how-to-rename-an-ethernet-interface
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !fans | sunlit
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !lmsensors | sunlit
[13:40] <iputra> bekks: because that i can't use aircrack-ng
[13:40] <iputra> MonkeyDust: i've try but in my linux version did
[13:41] <sunlit> thanks cfhowlett. I installed lmsensors yesterday, but I don't think it automatically clocks down the cpu? or does it? I also tried to find a governor which would do that, but that also does not seem to exist.
[13:42] <iputra> MonkeyDust: i've try but in my ubuntu, this files 70-persistent-net.rules is nothing
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> sunlit  install indicator-cpufreq, an interactive applet
[13:42] <cfhowlett> sunlit, pretty sure sensors only addresses fan control, not cpu.  bit surprised that darktable would throw you out like that ... never happened on my dell m3800
[13:43] <minimec> sunlit: install indicator-cpufreq and set the speed to 'conservative' or 'powersave'
[13:43] <tocotron> Guys, Ubuntu 15.04 is shipping version 1.7 of Django. The Django website states that this is an insecure and no longer supported version
[13:43] <cfhowlett> tocotron, 15.04 is dead and no longer supported.  upgrade
[13:43] <tocotron> 15.10, sorry
[13:44] <sunlit> thanks, I also have indicator-cpufreq (since yesterday). If I set it to powersave I think it runs the cpu at lowest speed and keeps it that way.
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> sunlit  and install thermald
[13:45] <sunlit> cfhowlett: yes that was the first time darktable did that, was pretty surprised as well.
[13:47] <sunlit> thermald sounds great, thanks MonkeyDust
[13:47] <Pici> tocotron: Ubuntu generally does not provide new releases for applications within a given Ubuntu release.  Since going from one django release to the next (not point release upgrades) tends to introduce major code changes, it would be a problem to push that on users.  I suppose django could be a good candidate for backported packages, but I don't see any available for it
[13:47] <arcade> how to dual boot with ubuntu windo7
[13:47] <Pici> tocotron: If you need to install a newer release yourself, I suggest setting up a virtualenv and installing from pip.
[13:48] <tocotron> Pici: Yes, that's what I've been doing, thanks
[13:48] <k1l> arcade: install windows, intsall ubuntu. choose OS to boot in grub
[13:49] <meldron> Hey guys anybody tried installing the new ubuntu to a zfs file system?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> meldron  new = 16.04? if yes: #ubuntu+1
[13:55] <roberto_> hi :)
[13:56] <roberto_> Hi guys :)
[13:56] <Pici> hi
[13:58] <roberto_> Is it possible via IRC to create a private chat with other users ?
[13:58] <roberto_> (first time with this)
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !pm | robertj
[13:59] <meldron> MonkeyDust: yes, thanks
[13:59] <Pici> roberto_: you can use /msg nickname hello!  but keep in mind what ubottu said above.
[14:00] <roberto_> Got it thanks
[14:01] <Pici> Slightly interesting for anyone paying attention, django 1.8 is considered by the django project to be an LTS release and thats what is shipping in 16.04 currently. That is all.
[14:07] <falu> tried to upgrade ubuntu server (on openvz) from 15.04 to 15.10. rsyslog froze the upgrade in the middle. the upgrade worked after i purged rsyslog. now it's on 15.10 but rsyslog cannot be installed (it just hangs during installation).
[14:07] <Guest18974> Hello Ubuntu user ! :)
[14:07] <ikonia> falu: versy few containers will work as an upgrade
[14:10] <james7611> Hello Ubntu users ! :)
[14:11] <balancin> hello there
[14:11] <Rhoarin> Hello there, I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and I can not operate my network printer, a Lexmark 4438-WE2. My Win7 PCs work fine with it and I can scan or print documents on wifi in my local network. Can you help me? Tnx
[14:12] <balancin> how I can put a result of an command (like a date) in a param from other command ? Some like that "docker --name=`date`'-test'"
[14:12] <falu> ikonia: that's too bad. so i would have to downgrade to 14.04 or switch hosts to have a supported release. do you think even though everything except rsyslog seems to be running just fine that i cannot trust this upgraded 15.10?
[14:12] <ikonia> falu: you can't downgrade
[14:12] <ikonia> your host should provide the version
[14:13] <falu> ikonia: i meant downgrade by reinstall :)
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[14:14] <root> how I can put a result of an command (like a date) in a param from other command ? Some like that "docker --name=`date`'-test'"
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> root  with $(command here)
[14:15] <Guest71205> ow
[14:15] <Guest71205> Thanks !!!!!
[14:15] <iongraphix> hello
[14:15] <Rhoarin> Hello there, I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and I can not operate my network printer, a Lexmark 4438-WE2. My Win7 PCs work fine with it and I can scan or print documents on wifi in my local network. Can you help me? Tnx
[14:15] <iongraphix> anybody home?
[14:16] <grobda24> Hi, having trouble finding a multi-core cpu burn tester. Was looking at http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/06/lbench-multi-threaded-benchmarking-tool-ubuntu-linux/ but does not seem to exist anymore. Is anything out there ?
[14:16] <loli1> hello, do you know how to add UNLIMITED roatations in logrotate, using the "rotate" tag?
[14:17] <adrian_1908> grobda24: do you just want to test stability under load or?
[14:18] <iongraphix> I am looking for a way to verify the integrity of linux kernel modules over the internet
[14:20] <trijntje> iongraphix: what do you mean? All ubuntu packages are signed, and cannot be modified without ubuntu noticing
[14:22] <Whir> hi, I get the following error from apt-get upgrade:
[14:22] <Whir> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/smbclient_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2.14.04.13_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:22] <Whir>  unable to install (supposed) new info file `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums': Is a directory
[14:22] <Whir> I tried dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:22] <Whir> and cleared the /var/cache/
[14:24] <grobda24> Whir: either error in package or "md5sums" already existed as dir when its trying to create a file ?
[14:25] <Whir> grobda24: I do not understand your 2nd point
[14:26] <grobda24> Whir is linux tries to create a *file* where there's already an existing directory of the same name you get that error.
[14:26] <grobda24> *where linux
[14:26] <Whir> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums
[14:26] <Whir> this dir does not exist
[14:26] <grobda24> Whir: ah, right, ok
[14:26] <Whir> so it is created in the process?
[14:27] <grobda24> Whir: looks like a package bug, maybe try another release
[14:27] <iongraphix> I am looking for a way to verify linux kernel modules over the internet.
[14:27] <llutz> loli1: there is no such option, just set "rotate 1000000..lotsofzeroshere..."
[14:27] <rud0lf> greetings! can i ask a question about installing ubuntu 16.04 here or should i go #ubuntu+1 ?
[14:27] <iongraphix> can anyone point me to a kernel discussion channel
[14:27] <iongraphix> please
[14:28] <llutz> rud0lf:  #ubuntu+1
[14:28] <Whir> grobda24: I could also live without samba I guess
[14:28] <rud0lf> ok, thanks
[14:28] <trijntje> iongraphix: I still don't understand what you mean. Can you be more clear about your question?
[14:28] <Whir> grobda24: what you mean by 'try another release' ?
[14:29] <popey> iongraphix: #ubuntu-kernel
[14:30] <Beelsebob> heya, I'm trying to get gstreamer's ffmpeg plugin installed, and I can't seem to get xenial to understand that I want to use trusty-media's repository; it keeps telling me
[14:30] <Beelsebob> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[14:30] <Beelsebob> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[14:30] <Beelsebob> I've told apt Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories true; in apt.conf
[14:30] <Beelsebob> am I missing something?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> Beelsebob  you too, #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 questions
[14:31] <Beelsebob> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:48] <pezdispenser> Hi,  Is there a way to output sound to HDMI aswell as original analog output simultaneously?  thanks
[14:55] <pezdispenser> Hi,  Is there a way to output sound to HDMI aswell as original analog output simultaneously?  thanks
[14:57] <arca_vorago> Any tips on getting openjdk 8 to launch something?
[14:58] <tgm4883> arca_vorago: what tips are you looking for? Run java and the app?
[14:59] <minimec> pezdispenser: This should be a good start... http://askubuntu.com/questions/78174/play-sound-through-two-or-more-outputs-devices
[14:59] <arca_vorago> no, I'm looking for information on what openjdk expects when launching a jnlp
[14:59] <arca_vorago> Getting error codes
[15:02] <pezdispenser> minimec:  I've followed that page, installed paprefs, eneabled simultaneous ouput,  problem is in my pulseaudio under output there is no option to choose simultaneous output,  just choose one or the other,  even after restarting pulse audio
[15:03] <kitaromo> Hi there
[15:04] <pezdispenser> hi kitaromo
[15:04] <kitaromo> Is there any video player abale to to shoy .ttml subtitle format
[15:04] <kitaromo> youtube-dl produce ttml format
[15:05] <kitaromo> ttml format file are produced by youtube-dl as a health working format instead of new vtt format used by youtube.
[15:05] <kitaromo> files*
[15:08] <minimec> pezdispenser: I have done something similar a long time ago. Do you have the pavucontrol package installed? I have both paprefs and pavucontrol with 14.04 and do have the 'simultaneous Output' tab
[15:08] <arca_vorago> Got it, ended up installing iceadtea-netx and usuing javaws to launch
[15:09] <arca_vorago> **** java
[15:09] <pezdispenser> minimec:  i do not, I did not see that in forums before coming here, thanks I will try/research that , thanks ( :
[15:09] <minimec> pezdispenser: Let's hope for the best.
[15:12] <moat_joe> What would it take to get "April 21, 2016" added as the release date for 16.04 on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:13] <nacc> moat_joe: it hasn't been released yet?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> moat_joe  a launchpad account, maybe
[15:13] <nacc> moat_joe: I assume that's why there is no date attached yet
[15:14] <pezdispenser> minimec:  thanks so much,  got them both working ;)
[15:15] <moat_joe> Previously it was just blank (even though the date was already announced).
[15:15] <moat_joe> Would be nice if there were just an api endpoint for "these releases are currently supported".
[15:15] <nacc> moat_joe: well it's in the packages themselves, iirc
[15:16] <nacc> 'Supported: ...'
[15:16] <moat_joe> the ubuntu-desktop package?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> moat_joe, that's because it's listed here , and not ready for release until apr 21,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[15:16] <nacc> moat_joe: and rmadison only lists currently supported releases
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> moat_joe  remember 6.06, it was released in .06, not in .04
[15:17] <moat_joe> I understand that it's not released yet, my issue is that "April 2016" is not a date, and is today > "April 2016" doesn't have a well defined answer
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> moat_joe  true
[15:19] <nacc> moat_joe: but it's in the future section regardless right now
[15:20] <moat_joe> yeah, I'll cut over to using just the current table
[15:20] <nacc> moat_joe: also, looking at the history, it has never been blank for Xenial or had a date on tha tpage
[15:20] <moat_joe> Did the row just get added then?
[15:20] <nacc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?action=diff&rev1=209&rev2=210
[15:20] <nacc> hasn't been changed since it was introduce in october 2015
[15:21] <minimec> pezdispenser: I see your problem. Load the module with 'pacmd load-module module-combine' in a terminal.
[15:30] <Sheepolution> Hi
[15:31] <stacy-> please advice on a easy to learn CTM for ubuntu
[15:31] <proudlinuxuser> Hello, my usb-storage is only mounted when he is pluged *before* I turn the computer on.
[15:33] <Sheepolution> I ran sudo apt-get dist-update for the first time since I installed Ubuntu and now everything is messed up :( [Ubuntu 14.04.4]
[15:34] <teward> Sheepolution: define 'messed up' in context please
[15:34] <Sheepolution> teward: The biggest problem is the screen resolution not being 1920x1080 anymore
[15:35] <stacy-> can soembody please advice on an easy to learn content manager for websites in ubuntu?
[15:35] <IngenieroDeToro> I would check and see if you need a different set of display drivers for your new dist version
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> stacy-  you mean an html editor?
[15:36] <IngenieroDeToro> stacy- or a CMS?
[15:36] <stacy-> yes
[15:36] <stacy-> CMS
[15:36] <IngenieroDeToro> WordPress is the worlds leading CMS
[15:37] <stacy-> the joomal in my ubuntu is messed up with permission rights and unusable
[15:37] <IngenieroDeToro> that would have been my second pick
[15:37] <stacy-> ingenierdetoro.. i cant use wordpress because of firewalls
[15:37] <stacy-> is there anything besides joomal?\
[15:38] <stacy-> joomal is very difficult for me to pickup
[15:38] <llutz> stacy-: typo3
[15:38] <Sheepolution> Also when I try to start Krita, it says: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[15:38] <bekks> Why cant you use Wordpress because of firewalls? Those firewalls will inhibit the use of any other CMS, too.
[15:38] <stacy-> llutz.. typo3?
[15:38] <llutz> stacy-: https://typo3.org/
[15:39] <stacy-> llutz.. what do i need to do to start it?
[15:39] <stacy-> is typo easy to use
[15:39] <llutz> stacy-: read the documentation, as with every other cms
[15:40] <stacy-> i just need a simple test webstore
[15:40] <proudlinuxuser> My usb-storage is only mounted when he is pluged *before* I turn the computer on.
[15:40] <nacc> !patience | proudlinuxuser
[15:40] <egoflux> What's up
[15:41] <tgm4883> stacy-: webstore as in a place to buy things, or webstore as in a place to store things for later retrieval?
[15:41] <nacc> proudlinuxuser: if you plug it in after boot, what does dmesg say, if anything?
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> proudlinuxuser  in a terminla, type  tail -f /var/log/syslog
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> proudlinuxuser  then un/plug the stick
[15:45] <proudlinuxuser> @nacc, after typing lsusb: Bus 003 Device 006: ID 13fe:4100 Kingston Technology Company Inc. Flash drive
[15:47] <tgm4883> stacy-: don't PM users unless they say you can. Keep chat in here as it's logged and will help everyone
[15:49] <InkJoy> Hello everyone
[15:49] <egoflux> Hello
[15:49] <stacy-> any way you can teach in private?.. i dont want people logging my info in ubuntu
[15:49] <InkJoy> can everyone see my messages?
[15:49] <mTeK> yes
[15:50] <tgm4883> stacy-: no, I'm not teaching you anything. If you have questions, ask them here so anyone can answer
[15:50] <InkJoy> mTeK,  was that to me? xD
[15:50] <mTeK> Yes InkJoy
[15:50] <InkJoy> Thank you
[15:50] <egoflux> I can teach you some things in private if you want
[15:50] <mTeK> ew
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> InkJoy  change your font color to be more readable
[15:51] <mTeK> In my bouncer his font is just black
[15:51] <InkJoy> How do i do that? I'm using Hexchat
[15:51] <tgm4883> Sounds like you need a better bouncer
[15:52] <egoflux> Everyone's messages are different colors in my client
[15:52] <egoflux> Testing out this Droid app
[15:52] <InkJoy> egoflux,  so you can see me properly?
[15:52] <mTeK> tgm4883: I'm using quassel
[15:53] <egoflux> InkJoy: I suppose I can
[15:53] <InkJoy> Thanks egoflux
[15:53] <mTeK> I had courling tuned off
[15:53] <mTeK> *coloring*
[15:55] <Gegsite> yo
[15:55] <egoflux> Yo
[15:56] <Gegsite> looks like Kingston sucks with hibernate at ubuntu
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Gegsite  mind your language
[15:56] <Gegsite> nor the new (installed on the ssd) and the old hdd setup now hibernate...
[15:58] <Gegsite> its looks like the ssd keep stopping the machine to go hibernate
[16:00] <mTeK> where are debconf preeseeding options stored for each package?
[16:03] <Gegsite> hmm anyone else got spam from _krazy_girl ... (write it right)
[16:04] <proudlinuxuser> No.
[16:04] <Gegsite> I do
[16:05] <proudlinuxuser> Monkydust, how long will the systelog take?
[16:06] <proudlinuxuser> Beacause he's running since several minutes...
[16:09] <Kartagis> hello
[16:10] <Kartagis> how could ubuntu be reporting the same numbers about two different shares? http://paste.debian.net/423042/
[16:10] <disc0very> hello
[16:10] <disc0very> anyone has skill on aufs root ?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> proudlinuxuser  no, run it, then unplug and replug usb... do you see something change, is the stick detected
[16:12] <milehigh> NVIDIA Stereo is broken on RHEL 7.2? I opened a bug with NVIDIA and they claim it's an issue with the GNOME software shipped in 7.2 and not a driver issue...
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> milehigh  this is ubuntu support
[16:12] <teward> milehigh: RHEL is not Ubuntu
[16:12] <rahuldev> Hi
[16:12] <teward> milehigh: this is not RHEL support, so you are in the wrong channel.
[16:13] <disc0very> is it possible to resize an aufs partition of a live cd/usb ?
[16:13] <rahuldev> is there any good tool like vpn so I can browse some websites that are not open on my internet service.
[16:13] <proudlinuxuser> milehig, Did you look for an driver-update?
[16:13] <proudlinuxuser> *a
[16:13] <milehigh> lol, sorry
[16:13] <krawall> yeah
[16:14] <krawall> first time a female nick queryd me
[16:14] <disc0very> krawall: was that a bot? :))
[16:16] <k1l> krawall: please report such things in #ubuntu-ops if the users are in here so the op team can take actions
[16:16] <link0802> Hi guys. Can you help me please? Can't login to last.fm in rythmbox 3.3, ubuntu 15.10. Last.fm show error "Token expired. Please return to Rhythmbox and try again."
[16:17] <link0802> Try to set any default browser, wait some time, use ppa with new version & plugins. No one try was success
[16:17] <link0802> By default ubuntu 15.10 have rythmbox 3.2 and it has this issue too. So I upgrade it to rythmbox 3.3 but it doesn't help
[16:17] <link0802>  Also I do purge, config remove and etc. Zero result
[16:21] <jesperson> Hey, I'm having a bit of an issue. I installed the latest prop drivers from nvidia and I can't start any PlayonLinux games (worked an hour ago). I think it can't find my opengl libs but I'm not sure...
[16:21] <jesperson> I tried reverting to the drivers I used before but with no difference
[16:22] <steven__> hi
[16:31] <Gegsite> so anyone has a clue why I cant make my PC to "suspend"?
[16:31] <jesperson> Gegsite, do you have any swap?
[16:32] <Gegsite> jesperson, I do, it is 4 GB
[16:33] <jesperson> Have you tried this: http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[16:34] <zykotick9> Gegsite: is it a swap partition?  is it slightly larger then your physical memory?  are you using non-free graphics drivers?  hibernation is tricky!  good luck.
[16:35] <Mikelevel> Gegsite~ suspend or hibernate?
[16:35] <Mikelevel> its not the same
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> Gegsite  hiberation made my system unstable and slow, also 4GB, careful with it
[16:36] <Gegsite> suspend.. it is the menu up right
[16:36] <Gegsite> suspend...
[16:37] <zykotick9> Gegsite: suspend  is much easier...  i don't think the swap stuff plays a part with suspend.  good luck.
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> suspend is 'save to ram', hibernate is 'save to disk'
[16:38] <Gegsite> its keep awaike....
[16:38] <Gegsite> or just my fan still turning
[16:42] <Rubbel_LORD> d
[16:48] <kallo82> Hello
[16:49] <kallo82> i have dell latitude e5470 bought it last week , i had to format like 10 times since then cause when i run the usual update for my pre-installed ubuntu 14.04.2 it starts to show me we're sorry internal error
[16:49] <kallo82> any idea ?
[16:49] <kallo82> also some of the pre installed software like "dell my linux" stop responding
[16:50] <nacc> kallo82: check RAM, check disk for smart errors?
[16:51] <kallo82> My hard is fully SSD and has no issues , RAMs are DDR4 (8GB)
[16:52] <kallo82> i believe if it were hardware issues i would still should see errors
[16:53] <kallo82> but  idont at the moment
[16:53] <kallo82> any suggestion on how to determine reasons
[16:53] <kallo82> is it because of kernal update ?
[16:53] <EriC^^> ¸
[16:53] <Apteryx> Hi! Could anyone suggest a good SSTP client?
[16:54] <Apteryx> PPTP is blocked, and sstp-client (sourceforge project) is super slow when dealing with svn. I compared throughput between PPTP and SSTP, and PPTP was orders faster for some SVN operations (svn log --diff -r startrev:endrev, for example).
[16:56] <kallo82> Any help on my above question
[16:58] <kallo82> i have dell latitude e5470 bought it last week , i had to format like 10 times since then cause when i run the usual update for my pre-installed ubuntu 14.04.2 it starts to show me we're sorry internal error, should i update and keep seeing this internal error or keep it the way its without updates ?
[17:00] <robairt> why the hell do razer notification get pushed to my desktop
[17:00] <robairt> I even have set razer.insider to the block list and it still freaking pops up
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !info razer
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !find razer
[17:06] <di-erz> join #rust-ru
[17:09] <Myrtti> Gegsite: mind a pm?
[17:09] <Gegsite> sure
[17:17] <weeirc8086> my xscreensaver refuses to login me -- says 'wrong password'
[17:17] <weeirc8086> on lubuntu
[17:18] <weeirc8086> I have multiple keyboard layouts.
[17:19] <weeirc8086> is there an alternative screenlocker that I could install?
[17:19] <foormea> hiya. what do you suggest for remote backup-ing? i'm seeing a few options: duplicity, remote-sync, unison. which is better? unison seems to be cross-platform which sounds nice, but i'm wondering if it's doing okay with file permissions
[17:23] <k1l_> foormea: unison is basically 2-way-rsync
[17:24] <skinux> Does Ubuntu have tools/commands that allow more control as Fedora/other enterprise systems do?
[17:24] <k1l_> foormea: and it needs the same major version of unison on both machines.
[17:24] <k1l_> skinux: what do you mean exactly?
[17:24] <nacc> skinux: that question seems very vague to me
[17:25] <k1l_> (and fedora is not the enterprise distribution. rhel is)
[17:25] <stef__> hello, im new to ubuntu mate and i just installed synaptic package manager, a tool i used allot with linux mint. but i cannot find it? i know this sounds dumb but i expected it to be in applications -> system tools, it seem im wrong
[17:26] <SCHAAP137> stef__, try looking in System -> Administration
[17:27] <stef__> SCHAAP137, thanks, thats it
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: what do you want to achieve?
[17:28] <skinux> I've simply always heard people say Ubuntu isn't their first choice because other distros offer much more control.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> never understood the fascination with Synaptic, you have software centre.....
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its Linux, lots of control.
[17:29] <skinux> So, people saying that are just biased or don't know what they're talking about?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> skinux: probably a bit of both
[17:30] <SCHAAP137> skinux, Ubuntu offers the same degree of control as other linuxes. You could say that it has more things preinstalled, that might be true. But it has nice and secure defaults, compared to other distros.
[17:30] <k1l_> skinux: imho the people talk about the automatic setup. but you still can change the settings. ubuntu was the one shipping a desktop installer which made it easy for beginners. others said that this is not needed.
[17:35] <DArqueBishop> skinux: my experience is that when someone mentions a distribution "giving you more control", what they mean is that the distro doesn't have newbie-friendly configuration systems as the default and force you to wade through config files.
[17:37] <django_> hey ubuntunistas
[17:37] <django_> how can i record my computer work
[17:37] <django_> i wanna make a youtube channel
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> django_: recordmydesktop-gtk or kazam are 2 options I can think of quickly
[17:38] <DJones> !screencast | django_ This should have some links tohelpyou,
[17:38] <django_> ty!!
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> :D
[17:38] <baizon> django_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/4428/how-to-create-a-screencast
[17:39] <ph8-> Hi all, i'm wondering if I can full disk encrypt my install of 15.10 without wiping and reinstalling, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ph8-: could use it as an excuse to wipe the install off and install Xenial. Xenial is LTS and supported til April 2021. Wily has only a short lifespan
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ph8-: you can restore your userdat from your backups to the encrypted file system
[17:41] <nicomachus> worth mentioning that xenial is still beta for another 3 weeks.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> its the long game :)
[17:47] <ph8-> Haha
[17:47] <ph8-> well i'm starting a job next week with my own kit
[17:47] <ph8-> is Xenial going to be a suicidal choice? :)
[17:48] <ph8-> Isn't there normally a "massive" drop of stuff once something leaves beta that adds on surprise themeing etc that's not in the beta?
[17:48] <teward> ph8-: Xenial isn't even released yet - questions for it in #ubuntu+1
[17:48] <ph8-> I don't remember running a beta that goes to stable being the best thing in the past
[17:48] <teward> ph8-: i'd stick with an actually supported release though
[17:48] <ph8-> My inclination also i think :)
[17:48] <ph8-> But we think full reinstall only for disk encryption?
[17:48] <ph8-> It's kinda fine, i can just back my home up - just not ideal
[17:48] <ph8-> But hardly a standard operation :)
[17:56] <pikapikapikachu> hello
[17:56] <pikapikapikachu> can someone help me
[17:56] <rud0lf> just ask
[17:56] <pikapikapikachu> i need help with morse code
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> pikapikapikachu  start with a question
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> pikapikapikachu  this is ubuntu support
[17:56] <pikapikapikachu> can you point me in the right direction?
[17:57] <llutz> !alis | pikapikapikachu
[17:57] <pikapikapikachu> its a fun project incase anybody wants to have a look
[17:57] <pikapikapikachu> thanks guys
[17:59] <DiamondSword> hello.. I have two hdd on my pc, I've Windows on SSD and some important files on SATA HDD. I have enough space on SATA HDD but not much on SSD, so I'm thinking to install ubuntu on some part of the SATA HDD without loosing my important files there.. can I do that? I wonder if this is possible..
[18:00] <baizon> DiamondSword: yes its possible
[18:00] <baizon> DiamondSword: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg309169.aspx
[18:00] <frainfreeze> matter fact I was wondering the same .-.
[18:00] <DiamondSword> also grub will be installed where? on my SSD or SATA HDD ? I'm asking this because I wonder will I need GRUB to boot into Windows ?
[18:00] <baizon> DiamondSword: you can select where to install grub
[18:01] <DiamondSword> hmh.
[18:01] <DiamondSword> on my situation where do you advise to install GRUB, baizon ?
[18:01] <baizon> DiamondSword: i would recommend to install grub on the same drive where you got your linux system
[18:01] <DiamondSword> so on the SATA HDD
[18:01] <DiamondSword> ok
[18:01] <frainfreeze> baizon, but windows on the SSD doesnt get affected?
[18:01] <reisio> and also to have that drive be the first drive
[18:02] <DiamondSword> baizon, do you think this will any affect on my Windows system?
[18:02] <reisio> if you don't write to the Windows drive, it won't be affected
[18:02] <baizon> frainfreeze: if he boots from the hdd, then not
[18:02] <DiamondSword> for example think that some day I deleted linux partititon while I was on Windows.. then will I be able to Windows without a problem?
[18:03] <baizon> DiamondSword: yes
[18:05] <DiamondSword> what desktop environment do you use?
[18:05] <DiamondSword> Unity mostly?
[18:06] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: what does it matter?
[18:06] <kallo82> Hello , lshw is causing me ubuntu 14.04 internal error , its version is B.02.16
[18:06] <Squarism> So release tonight?
[18:06] <kallo82> Should i reinstall it
[18:06] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: ah, i thought that was your opening question
[18:06] <pikapikapikachu> how to see list of channels?
[18:07] <DiamondSword> EriC^^, do you think Canonical will always go on with Unity all the time?
[18:07] <DiamondSword> because I won't like to be fooled.
[18:07] <EriC^^> what do you mean by fooled?
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> DiamondSword  if you don't like unity, use something else
[18:07] <DiamondSword> I tried XFCE with ubuntu on virtualbox,  you know Unity is the default DE with Ubuntu
[18:08] <EriC^^> pikapikapikachu: /msg alis list <string> shows related channels
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> DiamondSword  because the phone interface looks the same, convergence etc
[18:08] <DiamondSword> MonkeyDust, Unity is a derivative of XFCE or Gnome?
[18:08] <EriC^^> gnome
[18:08] <kallo82> any idea how to fix lshw ? it hangs on PCI sys and then shows nothing , also it is causing internal error message when i first login to ubuntu
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> DiamondSword  unity is a compiz layer iver gnome3
[18:09] <DiamondSword> hmh..
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> overf*
[18:09] <nicomachus> kallo82: what? lshw shouldn't cause internal errors like that.
[18:09] <nicomachus> and AFAIK it can't be reinstalled.
[18:09] <nacc> Squarism: no, xenial releases (current schedule) 4/21: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[18:09] <DiamondSword> do you also realize gnome is slowly going to be  ios.. as interface
[18:09] <DiamondSword> I like linux, not ios
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> DiamondSword  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <nacc> DiamondSword: offtopic
[18:10] <kallo82> nicomachus: in the description of the message "sorry ubuntu is experiencing an internal error" i see /usr/bin/lshw
[18:10] <DiamondSword> ohh ok
[18:10] <DiamondSword> thank you al for help
[18:10] <DiamondSword> all*
[18:10] <kallo82> nicomachus: im also unable to use this command to list my hardware drivers
[18:11] <Squarism> nacc, thanx
[18:11] <nicomachus> I have never seen that before... odd. when did this start kallo82?
[18:11] <Oldblood> Anyone have Firefox freezing for a while on pages with a few gifs?
[18:11] <reisio> with a few thousand, sure
[18:11] <reisio> you're out of ram
[18:11] <reisio> unfortunately you cannot realistically add so much ram to cover any stupid webpage
[18:11] <Oldblood> no way I have 16 Gig
[18:11] <reisio> there'll always be a stupider webpage
[18:11] <kallo82> nicomachus, right after i update my 14.04.2
[18:11] <Squarism> Will unity8 be default WM in 16.04?
[18:11] <Oldblood> only like 2.5 in use
[18:11] <nicomachus> Squarism: no.
[18:12] <nicomachus> maybe in 16.10.
[18:13] <kallo82> nicomachus: as i have autoremoved it and reinstalled it but it is still not working
[18:13] <kallo82> version of lshw : B.02.16
[18:14] <Squarism> nicomachus, ok. Has its status changed from 15.10? I mean will it be presented to "non-expert" users as a valid choice for typical productivity work? Or more a "at your own risk" !!EXPERIMENTAL!!
[18:15] <nicomachus> Squarism: perhaps ask in #ubuntu+1, that's where xenial support is.
[18:15] <bekks> Squarism: 16.04 will be stable upon release.
[18:15] <nicomachus> bekks: he's asking about Unity 8
[18:15] <bekks> Whatever Unity version will be included in 16.04 will be stable too :)
[18:16] <nicomachus> which will be 7. with an option for 8. and he's asking if that option for 8 will be stable, I think.
[18:17] <Squarism> well i heard rumors 16.04 would be the release when unity8 would be made an "accessible option"
[18:18] <bekks> Squarism: 16.04 will be released, no matter whats up with Unity8.
[18:18] <kallo82> Ive almost searched everywhere about this issue, is there any place i can go to find an answer ?
[18:18] <EriC^^> unity8 can be tried right now by installing a package
[18:19] <Squarism> bekks, sure it will. Im mostly curious about unity8
[18:19] <EriC^^> i think it comes out with 16.10
[18:19] <bekks> Squarism: So try it out? :)
[18:19] <Squarism> i guess i will when 16.04 arrives. On 14.04 still
[18:21] <kallo82> Is this really ubuntu support official channel ?
[18:21] <reisio> really is
[18:21] <nicomachus> kallo82: yes, but your issue is a tough one.
[18:21] <Pici> kallo82: really really
[18:22] <kallo82> nicomachus: there should be a solution somewhere
[18:23] <EriC^^> kallo82: what does sudo lshw give you?
[18:24] <kallo82> nicomachus: PCI (sysfs) , and then disappears with no results
[18:24] <popey> kallo82: is everything else operating normally?
[18:24] <popey> kallo82: what changed on your system recently?
[18:24] <kallo82> Update to 14.04.4
[18:24] <popey> kallo82: what packages have you installed recently?
[18:24] <popey> kallo82: can you pastebin the file /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[18:25] <kallo82> popey: just regular updates that came up from update center
[18:27] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/aDLS2WH0
[18:28] <Bashing-om> kallo82: I have to ask if you are allowing the sysyem time " lshw " to probe the hardware? .. after " PPCI (sysfs) " takes a bit .
[18:28] <popey> kallo82: have you rebooted since this update?
[18:29] <kallo82> popey: yes many times , when i first login it shows me that ubuntu is experiencing an internal error and send report (in description it is mentioned /usr/bin/lshw)
[18:29] <popey> ok
[18:30] <popey> did you click the button to send the report?
[18:30] <kallo82> i had to autoremove lshw and reinstall it again , nothing changed
[18:30] <kallo82> yes of course
[18:30] <popey> good
[18:30] <popey> ok
[18:30] <popey> I can probably take a look at that report
[18:31] <kallo82> popey: yes please ! i appreciate your hand on this
[18:31] <popey> if you go to system settings -> security & privacy -> diagnostics -> "Show previous reports"
[18:31] <popey> that will open a window in your browser - can you private message me the url?
[18:31] <popey> nobody else can see what's in there, just a precaution
[18:31] <kallo82> Bashing-om: yes , but it disappears in a while and return to new line
[18:32] <lucas-arg> hey guys, i have a question, if you were to install ubuntu in a computer, would you go with 16.04 beta or stay with 14.04 until 2017?? would you use ppas?
[18:32] <Bashing-om> kallo82: Poking at it : same result when ' sudo lshw -C display ' is input ?
[18:33] <popey> kallo82: we have about 300 reports of lshw failing in this way
[18:33] <reisio> lucas-arg: waiting is silly
[18:33] <popey> are they all from you? :)
[18:34] <reisio> lucas-arg: you can upgrade a beta to a "final", if that's all you're worried about
[18:35] <TJ-> kallo82: popey: there was a weird bug in the underlying libraries I recall some time ago, due to bad entries in sysfs if I recall correctly
[18:35] <popey> hmmm
[18:35] <popey> there's been a ton of people with this issue in the last 3 days
[18:36] <popey> some going back to the start of the year
[18:36] <TJ-> chase the recent upgrades :)
[18:37] <skypce> hello all , i want share ubuntu liquorix kernel 4.4.6, the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-zaIRs7FBg
[18:37] <TJ-> kallo82: is the system running an LTS enablement kernel?
[18:37] <popey> kallo82: I'd be inclined to recommend you switch to the hw kernel
[18:37] <marjinal1st> Is there a GUI app (like GPG Suite) for encryption, in Ubuntu?
[18:37] <popey> TJ-: no, they're on Linux 3.19.0-56-generic x86_64
[18:38] <popey> !hwe | kallo82
[18:38] <kallo82> popey: i dont know this ubuntu was preinstalled on my dell laptop
[18:38] <kallo82> i just got it few days ago
[18:38] <popey> cool!
[18:38] <popey> okay, so you're on kernel 3.19
[18:39] <popey> we have a newer kernel you can try
[18:39] <kallo82> yes after the update its 3.19
[18:39] <popey> basically run the command on the page I linked to
[18:39] <kallo82> it was 2. something
[18:39] <popey> the HWE kernel will take you up to 4.2
[18:39] <popey> basically run this:-
[18:39] <popey>  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[18:40] <TJ-> kallo82: have you tried "sudo strace -o /tmp/lshw.strace.log -f lshw" to capture what it is doing?
[18:41] <kallo82> http://pastebin.com/RmqLFfUi
[18:41] <kallo82> TJ-: i will try that right away
[18:41] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/RmqLFfUi
[18:41] <popey> kallo82: have you added some PPAs to this?
[18:42] <popey> and using GNOME Shell or some other desktop?
[18:42] <TJ-> kallo82: you can "pastebinit /tmp/lshw.strace.log" after, so we can see what it got up to
[18:42] <kallo82> TJ-: when i ran the command i had again the internal error but this time /usr/bin/strace
[18:43] <TJ-> kallo82: the bug was in strace? that points to some underlying core library issue
[18:43] <kallo82> popey: No have not added any PPA, should i add any ?
[18:43] <popey> kallo82: what PPAs have you added to this system?
[18:43] <popey> hmm
[18:43] <popey> strange
[18:43]  * TJ- suspects on-disk file corruption
[18:44] <joasia> Hi
[18:44] <kallo82> popey: there are dell PPAs that came with the OS
[18:44] <TJ-> kallo82: has the system run out of space recently ("df -h") ?
[18:44] <popey> ok
[18:44] <kallo82> popey: i added teamjava to install oracle java
[18:44] <popey> TJ-: no, there's a ton of people with this issue
[18:44] <popey> its not isolated to the hardware on this machine
[18:45] <kallo82> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[18:45] <kallo82> udev            3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev
[18:45] <kallo82> tmpfs           787M  1.5M  786M   1% /run
[18:45] <kallo82> /dev/sda3       217G   31G  175G  16% /
[18:45] <kallo82> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[18:45] <kallo82> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[18:45] <TJ-> kallo82: did strace capture any output at all before it BUGed ?
[18:45] <popey> https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.04&package=lshw&period=day&pkg_arch=amd64
[18:45] <joasia> I cant mount ntfs partition becouse get error and info thah windows want correctly shutdown, but my windows dont want startup correctly and I want mount ntfs partition and copy files
[18:46] <kallo82> http://pastebin.com/42LwUwy1
[18:46] <joasia> is any way to repair it ntfs partition under ubuntu? I dont know mayby fsck??
[18:47] <kallo82> TJ-: i didnt try that before the update
[18:47] <kallo82> all of these issues happened right after the update
[18:48] <popey> kallo82: how did you update?
[18:48] <popey> using the graphical update tool?
[18:48] <TJ-> kallo82: popey the (only) common library is libc.so.6, and the eglibc packages shows security patches dated feb 16th. does that date tie in with these problems beginning?
[18:48] <Xero0042> joasia: Check this out http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/
[18:48] <kallo82> popey: yes i ran apt-get update and then used the graphical tool
[18:48] <llutz> joasia: sudo ntfsfix -d /dev/sdXY                may work, may cause damages, one doesn't know
[18:49] <Jordan_U> joasia: Please pastebin the exact error message.
[18:49] <popey> TJ-: yes
[18:49] <joasia> joasia, this my error : Failed to mount '/dev/sdb3': Operation not permitted
[18:49] <joasia> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[18:49] <joasia> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[18:49] <TJ-> popey: looking at the changelog then, I'm guessing its a knock-on from the NSS/resolver fixes
[18:50] <popey> TJ-: http://imgur.com/OyOiSoc
[18:50] <popey> I'm more concerned that the HWE update didn't work
[18:50] <popey> all of these errors indicate 3.19, not 4.x
[18:51] <joasia> ntfsfix will destroy my data?
[18:51] <Jordan_U> joasia: It is strongly recommended to only use chkdsk from Windows, using a recovery disk/partition if needed, for repairing NTFS. It's also good to try to understand the root cause of this problem. Is the hard drive hardware failing?
[18:51] <joasia> I dont want format it
[18:52] <llutz> joasia: no, but theres always a small risk, when using such tools
[18:52] <kallo82> popey: TJ- : Should i format and just keep the system without update ?
[18:52] <TJ-> popey: I'll look at the security patches; maybe there's a regression vis-a-vis the kernel interfaces
[18:52] <joasia> Jordan_U, disk is working but windows dont startup ... only windows logo start
[18:52] <popey> kallo82: dont format
[18:53] <popey> TJ-: could be, thanks
[18:53] <popey> kallo82: can you open a terminal, and run the following:-
[18:53] <joasia> Jordan_U, but my data was on D partition so I only need repair filesystem on D
[18:53] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt update
[18:53] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt dist-upgrade
[18:53] <popey> kallo82: and pastebin the entirety of it
[18:53] <joasia> will try ntfsfix
[18:55] <DiamondSword> baizon, http://askubuntu.com/a/290968
[18:55] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/FxaQZqzT
[18:55] <DiamondSword> "The problem is that grub (Linux bootloader that usually would provide the menu at boot where you can chose which OS you want to start) is installed on the second HD where Ubuntu is and if you boot to grub (that is, use the HD where Ubuntu is as the first boot drive) and chose Windows then it won't start."
[18:56] <DiamondSword> baizon, you said yes, no problem but they say if you do that, then Windows won't boot
[18:56] <DiamondSword> :S
[18:56] <popey> kallo82: okay, now could you please "sudo apt install linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily" and pastebin
[18:57] <joasia> working ... thanks a lot :)
[18:57] <popey> kallo82: ooh, hang on, scratch that
[18:57] <popey> kallo82: i need to speak to a developer about this
[18:58] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/duSVAu7e
[18:59] <Jordan_U> DiamondSword: If grub's boot sector is installed to the drive containing Ubuntu, and Windows is on a different drive, then installing grub won't touch the Windows drive at all.
[18:59] <popey> kallo82: okay, so you need:- sudo apt install linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[18:59] <popey> which I just tested here
[18:59] <TJ-> popey: from debian/patches/any/CVE-2015-7547.diff  :  "+ /* If the current buffer is not the the static user-supplied buffer then we can reallocate it */"  -- immediately makes me supicious. If it gets that wrong it could end up trying to mess with the calling process's memory allocation by free()ing/ realloc()ing .. when the caller tries to free() there'd be a bug
[18:59] <DiamondSword> Jordan_U, ok it's ok but will I be able to boot into Windows with Grub which is installed D drive? (I have Windows on C drive)
[18:59] <popey> TJ-: fun
[19:00] <popey> kallo82: that command should work.
[19:00] <Jordan_U> DiamondSword: Yes.
[19:00] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/4ppsYqAs
[19:00] <kallo82> popey: it didnt :-(
[19:01] <popey> kallo82: hmmmm
[19:01] <DiamondSword> Jordan_U, how can it be possible? because you say if I install ubuntu on D drive, that doesn't touch on Windows so how does Ubuntu know I have a Windows OS on another drive that is C drive?
[19:01] <popey> kallo82: ahh, I'm following clues, one moment
[19:02] <kallo82> popey: ok thank you for your time i appreciate it
[19:02] <popey> np
[19:04] <sstory> Isn't it a security issue for /sbin and /usr/sbin  to have 755 perms?
[19:05] <masterdoctor> hi
[19:05] <popey> kallo82: okay, lets try just the kernel:- sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily
[19:05] <Jordan_U> DiamondSword: os-prober, called by grub-mkconfig, called by update-grub will do *read only* mounts of all of your drives/partitions to search for other OSs to add entries for in grub's menu. grub-install doesn't even do that (as it doesn't generate a grub.cfg) and neither *writes* to the Windows drive.
[19:05] <TJ-> sstory: in what way?
[19:06] <kallo82> popey: its working , updating
[19:06] <baizon> DiamondSword: like i said, i got it this way and it works
[19:06] <llutz> sstory: not really. having access to the programs doesnt mean you can use them. most need root-rights to be "harmfull"
[19:06] <popey> kallo82: okay. can you pastebin when done?
[19:06] <sstory> TJ: Well, I'm just thinking since sbin is for super users, that other people should be able to get to useradd userdel, etc
[19:06] <kallo82> popey: i will surely do
[19:06] <popey> cool
[19:06] <DiamondSword> ok..
[19:07] <DiamondSword> I'll make some free space on D drive and boot into Ubuntu installer.
[19:07] <TJ-> sstory: but those tools check the effective UID and won't work if it isn't correct
[19:07] <DiamondSword> I'll install Ubuntu beside my important files on D drive.
[19:07] <jonathan_zz> sstory: OpenSUSE disallows normal /sbin usage but it is super annoying. Think. Even ifconfig is in /usr/sbin or something.
[19:07] <sstory> TJ: OK.  I guess it just looked wierd
[19:07] <DiamondSword> I have my Windows on C drive and I hope I can boot both Windows and Ubuntu after all.
[19:07] <sstory> jonathan_zz: ok. Thanks!
[19:07] <masterdoctor> anyone running on a Raspberry Pi
[19:07] <llutz> jonathan_zz: opensuse doesn't disallow that, they just don't put */sbin/ into users PATH
[19:08] <sstory> DiamondSword: I have a machine with Win 7 and Ubuntu and it boots fine.
[19:08] <jonathan_zz> I know that.
[19:08] <FoxMulder> Hey guys
[19:08] <DiamondSword> ok then.
[19:08] <sstory> DIamondSword: I have a grub loader on it and set it choose Ubuntu by default.
[19:08] <kallo82> popey: popey: http://pastebin.com/zeTp2u6d
[19:08] <Jordan_U> DiamondSword: Note that by default, on BIOS based systems, Ubuntu's installer installs grub's boot sector to what it thinks is the "first" drive even if that isn't the drive containing Ubuntu.
[19:08] <DiamondSword> I'll just install it, I don't know how to make it to select Ubuntu by default.
[19:08] <mikepapa> I'm lost. I cannot launch any virtual machine with virt-manager, that has no Cirrus video. Same moment I remove it from system, VM stops working. Not even trying to boot. Why?
[19:09] <jonathan_zz> It means constantly having to use the full path.
[19:09] <sstory> DiamondSword: Of course wisdom says: install Windoze first.  Check your BIOS if new because many settings need to be changed to "Legacy" sometimes for Linux to boot.
[19:09] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[19:09] <llutz> jonathan_zz: it means editing your PATH-var once
[19:09] <jonathan_zz> What's worse is the error message.
[19:09] <sstory> DiamondSword: I think you can do that afterward.
[19:09] <TJ-> kallo82: if you want to pin the cause down you could install the libc6 symbols and run 'lshw' under gdb (the debugger) and then when it crashes use "bT full" to generate a stack trace.
[19:09] <jonathan_zz> No it doesn't mean that, unless you are inclined to at that point.
[19:09] <ThePendulum> bit of a generic linux question maybe, but often software is put under a mirror link instead of a direct link to the source; is there any way to download the target file instead of the mirroring script from the command line?
[19:10] <koimaro> Is there any file manager to have 3 (or maybe more) columns like this: http://s21.uploadcdn.net/i/00027/hkj93uvatwus.png (I tried dolphin. It just can split in to column)
[19:10] <koimaro> two*
[19:10] <kallo82> popey: whats gdb ?
[19:11] <TJ-> kallo82: on an amd64 64-bit install you'd probably want http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-dbgsym_2.19-0ubuntu6.7_amd64.ddeb  - 'gdb' is the GNU debugger
[19:11] <popey> kallo82: looks like the update worked.
[19:12] <TJ-> kallo82: make notes; then once you have your package problems solved, if the issue persists you can use this to gather detailed, useful, data
[19:12] <popey> TJ-: you sure we want to do that ?
[19:12] <TJ-> popey: only if it continues to affect the system. installing the debug symbols won't hurt
[19:12] <popey> kallo82: looks like the kernel update worked
[19:12] <popey> sure, but advanced.
[19:12] <kallo82> popey: so whats the next step ?
[19:12] <popey> in theory, reboot and the lshw issue may go away
[19:12] <jonathan_zz> Ubuntu will correctly search its database and provide you with hints (Debian) about the program you are using or trying to find, but suse will just provide you with some useless error message if you type the wrong command.
[19:12] <TJ-> popey: well, only 3 commands... wget, dpkg -i, and gdb lshw
[19:13] <TJ-> popey: and as we have a hot issue with an active user a fast way to get the data required
[19:13] <jonathan_zz> that was really the most frustrating thing about OpenSUSE for me. :P.
[19:13] <DiamondSword> swap area should be logical or primary ?
[19:13] <llutz> DiamondSword: no difference
[19:14] <jonathan_zz> I would never reserve primary for swap if you have only 4.
[19:14] <DiamondSword> ok
[19:14] <jonathan_zz> if you use 2 primaries for Linux, you have 2 left for Windows if you need to.......
[19:15] <TJ-> or 126 if its GPT :)
[19:15] <jonathan_zz> then there is no logical :p.
[19:16] <sstory> DiamondSword: If grub is installed, you'll see a list. In Ubuntu, you can edit (carefully) /etc/default to make changes and have the menu stay around a few seconds to choose from. After editing, run update-grub to update the real config file
[19:16] <kallo82> popey: Hello back
[19:16] <kallo82> I rebooted
[19:16] <llutz> no need for msdos-layout today
[19:16] <kallo82> and by running uname -a i see it worked
[19:16] <kallo82> its 4.2
[19:16] <jonathan_zz> besides, booting windows from gpt is not always possible :p.
[19:17] <DiamondSword> ok sstory thank you, I'll try to edit grub after install
[19:17] <DiamondSword> hope I never need it :)
[19:17] <jonathan_zz> there must also be gui programs to edit grub, there is one for kde.
[19:18] <sstory> DiamondSword: Well in replacing Windoze with Ubuntu--trial... it is nice to be able to fall back to it for a while if an emergency came up, but eventually I hope to be rid of it too
[19:18] <kallo82> popey: now im able to navigate lshw ! THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART !
[19:20] <DiamondSword> sstory, :)
[19:20] <jonathan_zz> oh it's gone from the standard repo: kde-config-grub2.
[19:25] <tnx> Hi! I am running Kubuntu 14.04 and need help with my Wacom tablet. When I go to the KDE tablet settings, it says that it didn't find the KDE service for tablets and that I shall start this. I don't have a clue how to start the KDE service for tablets unfortunately, can anyone help me out here?
[19:26] <popey> kallo82: yay! working now?
[19:26] <popey> super news
[19:27] <kallo82> popey: yes working now but i feel the laptop is a little laggy , mouse hangs on a little then move as it should, has this anything to do with the kernal update ?
[19:28] <popey> hm, that shouldn't happen :(
[19:28] <tnx> The tablet itself works, but I don't have pressure sensitivity or the ability to customize buttons or something else I would need the KDE settings for.
[19:30] <Bashing-om> popey: kallo82 Did the graphics driver break in the kernel upgrade ?
[19:31] <tty1> Hey guys... so i have some python script.. is there a way to make it run on bootup AND have its output displayed on the screen (without needing the user to login).. this is console only.
[19:31] <kallo82> Bashing-om: popey : Yes now vlc is weirdly running ! ill upload a photo
[19:33] <Jordan_U> tty1: What does this script do?
[19:33] <tty1> Jordan_U: prints stuff to the screen (no input), talks to some comports, and does a tcp connection in the background
[19:33] <popey> kallo82: hmm, lets try something
[19:33] <kallo82> popey: yes please
[19:34] <kallo82> popey: do you want me to show you the result of sudo lshw ?
[19:34] <popey> no, thanks.
[19:34] <popey> kallo82: try:-
[19:35] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[19:35] <popey> now we're on the new kernel
[19:35] <scalper_> hey
[19:36] <scalper_> i installed the latest ubuntu, i installed lamp server, apache is working correctly, i can open html files local but php files arent opening, i get a 500 error, what could cause this trouble?
[19:36] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/NRrC2UHv
[19:36] <scalper_> i asume apache has rights to read the files because it will render html files correctly in the browser
[19:36] <Mathisen> would you say that Plex Mediaserver is a good chooice for streaming my music ?? or is there better alternatives out there ?
[19:37] <jonathan_zz> tnx: Only thing I can find is: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462158/kde-config-tablet-on-ubuntu
[19:38] <jonathan_zz> tnx: that person changed a single value in a single file, and then executed kded4, not sure about anything else.
[19:38] <popey> kallo82: ahh - try with this:- sudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[19:38] <popey> (added --install-recommends)
[19:39] <jonathan_zz> tnx: the file to change would be: /usr/share/kde4/services/kded/wacomtablet.desktop. And the value was: X-KDE-Kded-phase=0 (instead of =1)
[19:39] <Seldon> Never liked Unity 7 so much, but after seeing this video i think Unity 8 is pretty awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItFoz92zNm0
[19:39] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/wsCkErCA
[19:40] <llutz> scalper: check your apache-logs
[19:41] <Bashing-om> !info xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily trusty
[19:41] <wutf> i installed docker using the install script on ubuntu, but it's not running and i don't see how to start it
[19:41] <Jordan_U> tty1: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html I think printing to tty1 is the default.
[19:42] <aleks__> Hi everyone
[19:42] <maverick1992> hi
[19:42] <tnx> Okay, I did that, thanks! kded4 didn't seem to do anything, so I am quickly going to reboot to see if it worked.
[19:42] <Bashing-om> !info libgbm1-lts-wily trsuty
[19:42] <Bashing-om> !info libgbm1-lts-wily trusty
[19:43] <maverick1992> did you guys hear about linux bash shell running on windows
[19:43] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libcogl15 libclutter-gst-2.0-0 gstreamer1.0-clutter libegl1-mesa-lts-wily libgbm1-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-wily
[19:43] <aleks__> I have a security/privacy question. I have a fresh install XFCE desktop. Upon start ip I can see Firefox makes outgoing connections to CloudFront or Amazon CDN
[19:43] <maverick1992> its gonna happen in a future release of windows 10
[19:43] <sruli> how can i disable my internal mic in modprobe (not soundcard only mic)
[19:43] <maverick1992> just get a mac
[19:43] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/9BGjua3j
[19:44] <Jordan_U> !ot | maverick1992
[19:44] <popey> kallo82: ooh, getting there
[19:44] <aleks__> I have a security/privacy question. I have a fresh install XFCE desktop. Upon start ip I can see Firefox makes outgoing connections to CloudFront or Amazon CDN. How can this unwanted behaviour be stoped - I have turned off all options from the program's settings and I have tried disabling all add-ons
[19:44] <TJ-> aleks__: probably for the latest anti-spam/malware lists
[19:44] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I'm wondering what might be the reason that when I type the names of newly installed applications in Dash but nothing appears!
[19:44] <aleks__> @ TJ - this is also stopped
[19:44] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> ubuntu 15.10
[19:45] <scalper> i believe i've forgotten to output the error's i used to work with by default (in the browser)
[19:46] <TJ-> aleks__: is this any help? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Firefox+makes+unrequested+connections
[19:46] <pingwindyktator> hey. I want to create bash script that keeps some process running. if that process ends, it will re-run it. how to do that?
[19:46] <popey> kallo82: what if you "sudo apt remove libgl1-mesa-dri" then re-run the previous command?
[19:46] <pingwindyktator> it will be great if there wont be any possibility to stop that script
[19:46] <popey> does the first work?
[19:47] <kallo82> popey: it tells me that the package is not installed
[19:47] <tty1> Jordan_U: thanks that should do it
[19:47] <tnx> jonathan_zz, unfortunately it didn't work
[19:47] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/vPJCGZVt
[19:47] <popey> kallo82: ok
[19:48] <aleks__> @ TJ - it's probably something in this
[19:48] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> Does anyone experience the same issue with 15.10?
[19:48] <aleks__> @ TJ - I need to check all the options mentioned in this Mozilla article
[19:48] <aleks__> @ TJ - thank you :)
[19:48] <bithush> hello, I am currently a Linux Mint user as I really like Cinnamon but would like to switch to Ubuntu, what is the best way to get Cinnamon on Ubuntu?
[19:48] <tty1> hmm
[19:48] <aleks__> @ TJ - what do you think about Chromium - it also makes outgoing connections - but to Google
[19:49] <aleks__> and I have also stopped all possible visible options inside the program
[19:49] <tty1> any idea how i stop the the screen from going off automatically?
[19:49] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libcogl15 libclutter-gst-2.0-0 gstreamer1.0-clutter libegl1-mesa-lts-wily libgbm1-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-wily libgles2-mesa-lts-wily libgles1-mesa-lts-wily
[19:49] <tty1> console, not xwindows
[19:49] <k1l_> bithush: install the cinnamon package from the ubuntu repos.
[19:49] <tulips> okay this is driving me nuts... i have installed different versions and derivants of ubuntu and they are all having the same problem on my computer after a couple hours (fresh install)
[19:49] <tulips> the computer just freezes and I cannot go into F1-F6 shells
[19:50] <tgm4883> tulips: so a kernel panic probably
[19:50] <nickz> what is kernel panic basically?
[19:50] <tulips> on both LTS and latest
[19:50] <tnx> I think it is like a bluescreen on Windows, nickz.
[19:50] <tulips> how do i work with this?
[19:50] <tgm4883> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic
[19:50] <tgm4883> tnx: +1
[19:51] <kallo82> popey: http://pastebin.com/psiiJW37
[19:51] <TJ-> tulips: system freeze across multiple versions often indicates an underlying problem with fan control (cooling) not working as intended, leading to eventual overheat events
[19:51] <popey> kallo82: so close :)
[19:51] <Jordan_U> tulips: Have you run memtest86+ or another memory checker?
[19:52] <jonathan_zz> tnx: sorry to hear. Maybe you can find more, but apparently it has been a common bug.
[19:52] <tulips> i dont know about any tools
[19:52] <nickz> i installed linux by editing some script _noapic, pressing tab in the installation ubuntu menu. when i didnt do it, it got me stuck later on, why?
[19:52] <popey> kallo82: sorry about this!
[19:52] <popey> kallo82: sudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libcogl15 libclutter-gst-2.0-0 gstreamer1.0-clutter libegl1-mesa-lts-wily libgbm1-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily libgles2-mesa-lts-wily libgles1-mesa-lts-wily
[19:52] <tulips> Jordan_U: ... dont know about any tools
[19:52] <bithush> k1l_: is it in the repos?
[19:52] <tulips> Jordan_U: what would be the best tool to run?
[19:53] <k1l_> !info cinnamon | bithush
[19:53] <kallo82> popey: its ok ! its working now :-)
[19:53] <popey> phew
[19:53] <kallo82> popey: updating
[19:53] <bithush> oh nice!
[19:53] <popey> when that finishes, reboot again
[19:53] <kallo82> popey: i will
[19:53] <tnx> Is there any other graphic tool able to configure a tablet? I know it is possible via command line too, but I am too stupid for this.
[19:53] <scalper> solved anything
[19:53] <pingwindyktator> can someone help me? I want to create bash script that keeps some process running. if that process ends, it will re-run it. how to do that?
[19:54] <jonathan_zz> tnx: it will probably take less time to find out how to do it, than it will to fix this bug :p.
[19:54] <aleks__> Hey, is there any technical and easy option to stop Chromium browser to phone to home to Google - or this is software design
[19:55] <k1l_> aleks__: chromium is the same code as google chrome but without the google code. so what is the issue?
[19:55] <bekks> chromium doesnt phone home.
[19:55] <aleks__> @kll - upon start up chromium calls various IP even though its set to about:blank
[19:55] <aleks__> it calls to 1e100.net
[19:56] <bekks> Disable all addons, etc.
[19:56] <aleks__> @Bekks - you can try netstat -t -u -c to see
[19:56] <aleks__> I have no addons in Chromium and I stopped all options to check malware sites, etc.
[19:56] <bekks> And whats so horrible about 1e100.net?
[19:56] <k1l_> aleks__: then switch the search engine for the url bar.
[19:57] <kallo82> popey: just rebooted
[19:57] <kallo82> popey: hello back
[19:57] <aleks__> @kll - search engine is set to DuckDuck go, it makes the 1e100 connections upon start up with no page opened, types, requested
[19:58] <tnx> Oh well, I will do that tomorrow, it's too late for something like this now. Anyways, thank you for helping, jonathan_zz.
[19:58] <aleks__> If you have chromium, just open it, start terminal, type sudo netstat -t -u -c and you will see it
[19:59] <bekks> And whats so horrible about 1e100.net?
[19:59] <aleks__> 1e100.net is google
[19:59] <bekks> And whats so horrible about it?
[19:59] <aleks__> encrypted HTTPS outgoing connections - unwanted - this is the horrible
[19:59] <bekks> Did you read what it is for?
[19:59] <linux> alguem do brasil
[19:59] <aleks__> who know what is sends them
[19:59] <k1l_> !br  | linux
[19:59] <aleks__> and why it has to "call" them
[19:59] <popey> kallo82: ok
[19:59] <bekks> aleks__: if you are able to use netstat, you are able to use tcpdump as well.
[20:00] <popey> kallo82: hows it going?
[20:00] <tnx> !de
[20:00] <bekks> aleks__: if not, just read this: https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/174717?hl=en
[20:00] <aleks__> but its encrypted
[20:00] <k1l_> aleks__: that might be due to the plugins hosted by google
[20:00] <kallo82> popey: mouse still lags :-(
[20:00] <k1l_> aleks__: better ask the chromium guys what exactly is send there
[20:01] <kallo82> popey: is there any command that determines where the issue is ?
[20:01] <aleks__> @kll - yeah, they are google employees - they won't tell the truth :)
[20:02] <popey> kallo82: :(
[20:02] <k1l_> aleks__: then dont use it, if you cant trust anything.
[20:02] <TJ-> kallo82: popey any indications of delays/freezes in dmesg ?
[20:02] <popey> kallo82: what type of mouse?
[20:03] <aleks__> @kll , I was supposed to trust it as it's open source _ I can even open its source code but I am not a developer and I am not good at it
[20:03] <popey> kallo82: touchpad or external mouse?
[20:03] <TJ-> aleks__: why not just block the process from making any outgoing connections in the firewall?
[20:03] <aleks__> but to me this is definitely security issue
[20:03] <kallo82> popey: wireless mouse, the sam used to work before the update (when it was 14.04.2)
[20:03] <aleks__> @ TJ - if I block chromium from any outgoing connection, then I'd better uninstall it
[20:03] <aleks__> remove it
[20:03] <kallo82> popey: maybe i should change the mouse ?
[20:03] <tgm4883> aleks__: maybe use firefox?
[20:04] <Edgan> I am on Ubuntu 14.04/trusty, and trying to install ruby gems. I can do some via apt-get, and I can do others via gem install. gem list doesn't seem to know about gems installed via apt-get, and if I run a command from a gem installed via gem install, it can't find the gems I installed via apt-get. But I can run irb, and require a gem installed via apt-get. WTF?
[20:04] <k1l_> aleks__: you assume its a security issue. but you dont know. so either dont use it at all or ask the chromium guys to explain
[20:04] <kallo82> popey: no external
[20:04] <kallo82> popey: want me to try the touchpad ?
[20:04] <tgm4883> or option C) dig through the code and figure it out. or D) Pay someone to dig through the code and figure it out
[20:04] <aleks__> @tgm4883 @kll - I use firefox and chromoium - chromium works better on any site
[20:04] <k1l_> aleks__: non browser devs will not know what is going on there. so this is just pointless in here.
[20:05] <aleks__> @kll - do you mean I ask them in their site or there is some IRC channel ?
[20:05] <k1l_> !alis | aleks__
[20:05] <k1l_> aleks__: or file a bug in their bugtracker.
[20:06] <_thelion_> *	<k1l_!Q<<XGH
[20:07] <aleks__> @kll - there is already simiar "bug" but is not even triaged
[20:07] <kallo82> popey: good news
[20:07] <aleks__> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792580
[20:07] <popey> kallo82: go on :)
[20:07] <Zephy> hello. i've read about people setting up their parent's laptop with linux. what kind of desktop environment would you suggest for that case?
[20:07] <kallo82> popey: i changed the USB port and now it seems to be resolved
[20:07] <popey> hah
[20:07] <popey> I have heard some people find it works after removing the usb dongle and re-adding it
[20:08] <popey> sorry about that
[20:08] <kallo82> popey: you have been such a great help ! thank you for your time ! Big fan of you by now :-D
[20:09] <k1l_> aleks__: i doubt we can help you on that hunt in here. and a bug in debian wont help here. talk to the chromium guys. or if you dont trust them, dont use chromium at all.
[20:09] <popey> heh
[20:09] <minimec> Zephy: Default unity. My mom likes the 'big icons' on the left. She has all the important apps 'sticky' there and can switch windows, if more than one is open.
[20:10] <aleks__> @kll - well, kll, honestly, I don't trust Google that much but I had to load chromium because firefox is ugly slow on some pages and there is page I use which works fine with chromium is utterly slow with firefox
[20:10] <aleks__> that's the only reason
[20:10] <aleks__> but , anyway, thank you ! :)
[20:10] <Zephy> minimec, was thinking about that or gnome 3. i think kde and the others are a bit too techy for my parents.
[20:10] <tgm4883> lol
[20:11] <tgm4883> "I don't trust Google".... Uses Chromium
[20:11] <TJ-> aleks__: pages are slow due to abusing Javascript usually - disable it (or try the umatrix add-on)
[20:12] <minimec> Zephy: For me, staying on default settings is also a plus, when it comes to update/upgrade.
[20:12] <Zephy> minimec, sounds reasonable. any pitfalls i should look out for? im usually only using scientific linux at work.
[20:13] <minimec> Zephy: That machine had a 12.04 installation and will get 16.04 during summer.
[20:13] <aleks__> @ TJ - I will check umatrix
[20:13] <aleks__> thank you
[20:13] <Zephy> minimec, ill test 15.10 with them tomorrow.
[20:13] <minimec> Zephy: Don't take one of these hybrid GPU machines. I guess your parents are no gamers. Intel CPU/GPU is normally painless. ;)
[20:14] <minimec> Zephy: ... talking about laptops ...
[20:14] <Zephy> minimec, i got them a sweet thinkpad 560
[20:14] <Zephy> onboard gpu
[20:15] <aleks__> I am leaving, thank you for all who posted. Bye
[20:15] <Zephy> both cpu and gpu from intel
[20:15] <Zephy> only "intensive" gaming that will be done on the laptop, will be mahjong by my mother minimec :D
[20:17] <GreenDay> hello
[20:17] <GreenDay> i run kubuntu
[20:19] <jonathan_zz> GreenDay: I've heard about it.
[20:19] <jonathan_zz> Kubuntu I mean :p.
[20:19] <minimec> Zephy: Ubuntu Mate could also be a solution, if they are used to the 'old desktop paradigm'.
[20:21] <jonathan_zz> if I needed to give my parents anything, I would give them no computer at all, but a netbook running Windows 10, that they can forget about and not have to worry having spent so much money for something they don't use anyway :P.
[20:23] <jonathan_zz> maybe something that had 3 big buttons on the screen for playing random music.
[20:23] <jonathan_zz> that would be abou the extent of their capability to use a computer :p.
[20:29] <ph8-> woah, do i have to use LVM if i want to do full disk encryption now?
[20:30] <ph8-> LVM's always just overcomplicated things in my experience
[20:30] <ph8-> am i missing something about why LVM is useful?
[20:30] <HetroErectus> <-- just open sourced his dads printer
[20:30] <HetroErectus> CISS ... open source ink :)
[20:31] <Zephy> minimec, nah fuck it. they have to adapt anyway, since they were using vista beforehand. and nice big icons are never a bad thing =)
[20:35] <LTJohn> Good morning
[20:35] <LTJohn> can you help me with registering on ubuntuforums.org ?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> LTJohn: Join #ubuntuforums for that assistance .
[20:36] <LTJohn> Bashing-om: thank you
[20:36] <Bashing-om> LTJohn: :) pleased to help .
[20:41] <flambard`home> hi all, quick question: what are the usual step to enable a daemon? (in my particular case it has a /etc/init.d/ rc script)
[20:41] <flambard`home> rc-update doesn't seem to exist
[20:41] <tulips> okay i got memtest running on my laptop....
[20:42] <flambard`home> and /etc/init.d/daemon status just exits, and it looks like there might be several reasons for it, so what's the generic course of action?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> flambard`home  sudo service blah start
[20:42] <tulips> after running memtest, what else should i run to determine the cause for my laptop freezing?
[20:43] <flambard`home> MonkeyDust, thanks, doesn't look like it's doing anything
[20:44] <flambard`home> (I would assume for the same reason /etc/init.d version is not doing anything, whatever that reason might be)
[20:44] <sparr> I am getting different results from `service foo status` and `/etc/init.d/foo status`. How can I tell what `service` is doing?
[20:44] <llutz> flambard`home: what ubuntu-version?
[20:45] <ltelmo> tulips: Make sure your cooling fans are running , if it gets hot it can lock up
[20:45] <guntbert> flambard`home: currently systemd is used, so    sudo systemctl start  servicename
[20:45] <flambard`home> llutz: sorry for being dumb, but I'm not sure, doesn't look like /etc/motd exists either, uname -a doesn't state distro version
[20:45] <llutz> flambard`home: cat /etc/issue
[20:46] <flambard`home> llutz: oh, thanks, it's 14.04.4 LTS
[20:46] <llutz> so no systemd
[20:46] <tulips> ltelmp, sometimes the fans do run.... but how do i know if they are running when they should?
[20:46] <tulips> they run fast when the machine locks up
[20:46] <flambard`home> llutz, guntbert: right, I think it's init.d + upstart
[20:47] <llutz> flambard`home: upstart actually with a wrapper for old sysV-init scripts in init.d, but "service ..." should do anyways
[20:47] <ltelmo> tulips: if they are moving air they should be okay
[20:48] <flambard`home> llutz: I see. Well, I recall there's usually another step to "enable" a daemon, used to be rc-update
[20:49] <flambard`home> llutz: or editing some global config (gentooish/BSD). Can't figure out what that's supposed to be in Ubuntu 14
[20:49] <llutz> flambard`home: insserv
[20:49] <flambard`home> llutz: is that a comand? cause "insserv: command not found" :(
[20:50] <llutz> my bad, seem to be from "those days", not actual anymore.
[20:52] <flambard`home> hmm, I guess it's "service runlevel"
[20:53] <flambard`home> or maybe "update-rc.d foobar defaults"
[20:54] <llutz> flambard`home: that was always working. i thought you used that without success
[20:54] <flambard`home> llutz: nah, I'm just poking in the dark.
[20:55] <flambard`home> server --status-all shows my daemon with a lovely [ - ] mark, but that's it
[20:55] <flambard`home> service* --status-all
[20:55] <jonathan_zz> I say kill the beast.
[20:55] <jonathan_zz> If it can't run around, it can't destroy the babies either.
[20:57] <Bashing-om> flambard`home: 'sudo service <service> restart ' ??
[21:00] <flambard`home> Bashing-om: I wish
[21:01] <tulips> how many passses should i let memtest run?
[21:02] <flambard`home> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15571198/
[21:02] <DEFWARE> show ip
[21:02] <flambard`home> I'm suspecting it's one of those, but as far as I can tell everything is fine. I guess time to add some echo's :/
[21:04] <flambard`home> OK, /cat/default/foobar reveals "ENABLED=0"
[21:04] <flambard`home> phew, finally. who would've though.
[21:04] <flambard`home> thanks everyone, sorry for wasting your time
[21:05] <flambard`home> cat /etc/default/foobar *
[21:06] <Inglipz> Hey all.
[21:06] <tulips> how many passes should you let memtest go?
[21:07] <Inglipz> Could anyone help me with a slight hdd issue? My 1T drive is split between two volumes (sda and sdb) and I think it may have to do with an incorrect dd command I used a few month earlier.
[21:09] <llutz> Inglipz: pastebin "sudo parted -l" please
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Inglipz: I do not mind looking .. be aware sda is the 1st physical hard drive while sdb - the b- is the 2nd hard drive .
[21:10] <Whisket> tulips: depends what you're trying to do
[21:10] <GreenDay> my flash is always outdated and i must activate it always under FF... :/
[21:10] <tulips> Whisket, im trying to determine the reason for all of my computer freezes
[21:10] <tulips> i have an aspire 5749
[21:11] <Whisket> tulips: then I'd run it until it freezes -- if it does freeze
[21:11] <tulips> windows doesnt freeze but a lot of nixes i have tried freeze a lot
[21:11] <sparr> aha! /usr/sbin/service clears the environment before running /etc/init.d/foo
[21:11] <tulips> and i dont wanna go back to windows
[21:13] <Inglipz> Thanks for the help. I'll post it in a sec, I'm on tablet right now (live usb on my laptop)
[21:13] <tulips> Whisket, how long should be enough tho?
[21:13] <Whisket> tulips: sounds like drivers. if you think it's the memory you can run memtest until it dies or do something memory intensive until it dies
[21:13] <llutz> tulips: let it go for 24hrs
[21:13] <Whisket> the average amount of time between freezes
[21:13] <Inglipz> But I fon't care about the data on it. Incan nuke the drive if needed
[21:14] <Whisket> yeah 24hrs is probably okay
[21:14] <Colombo> Hi all. I have limit on my home on computer at work. It is quite small (20 gigs). I am interested in enlarging it. I googled a bit and saw "quota" and that there must be stuff in fstab etc. but there seems to be nothing on fstab.
[21:14] <tulips> cant you pull information about a crash from a log tho?
[21:14] <tulips> instead?
[21:15] <Whisket> tulips: from vmcore
[21:15] <Inglipz> Bashing-om, llutz : http://pastebin.com/YKY3y9SS
[21:15] <tulips> Whisket, can you point me on how to pull from that log?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Inglipz: Look'n .
[21:16] <Inglipz> I already removed individual partk
[21:16] <Inglipz> Partitions on bith, but can't "merge" them*
[21:16] <Inglipz> Bashing-om thanks!
[21:17] <llutz> Inglipz: those are different drives, you cannot merge
[21:18] <Inglipz> Sdc is the flash drive, but I'm almost certain that sda and sdb got split for some reason. Also pretty sure that's because of wrongful dd command
[21:18] <Whisket> tulips: you need the file from /var/crash. more info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html Once you get one  someone can load it into crash and look at it
[21:18] <llutz> Inglipz: there is sda, an hitachi 1GB s-ata, sdb an kingstom msata 24gb
[21:19] <llutz> Inglipz: and correct, sdc the 16gb flashdrive
[21:19] <ltelmo> tulips: i looked that laptop is a standard I3 Intel and if you say it runs windows fine, I agree sounds like a driver issue
[21:19] <gartral> hello all, I have an issue. I'm trying to update a 12.04 system via reinstall with 15.04, and I can't wipe /dev/sda because when I try to create a new partition table i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/15571301/
[21:19] <llutz> hitachi 1TB*
[21:19] <sruli> how can i disable internal mic without disabling full audio? (mute is not enough, to enable i want it to require sudo)
[21:19] <tulips> ltelmp, how do i know what drivers to load?
[21:19] <Inglipz> llutz: the issue is that sdb didn't appear before (1 month or so). Now it does even when no usb drives are connected.
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> gartral  15.04 is dead
[21:20] <gartral> MonkeyDust: oop! I meant 15.10
[21:20] <tulips> ltelmp, driver manager doesnt show any drivers
[21:20] <gartral> hello all, I have an issue. I'm trying to update a 12.04 system via reinstall with 15.10, and I can't wipe /dev/sda because when I try to create a new partition table i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/15571301/
[21:21] <Inglipz> It used to be a full 1 to sda partition. I know I don't have two drives or any ssd on my machine either. It's not the worst issue but I find it extremely weird.
[21:21] <llutz> Inglipz: is that a notebook?
[21:22] <ltelmo> tulips: read here https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[21:23] <zwarag>  /wc
[21:23] <ltelmo> tulips: thats about all i know
[21:24] <Inglipz> llutz: Asus Rog. Single 1To hdd, I checked the specs, no ssd or anything.
[21:24] <Bashing-om> gartral: Can not modify partitions that are mounted (in use) .. Need to work from a live environment .
[21:24] <EriC^^> ""'
[21:25] <gartral> Bashing-om: I AM.. I figured it out. I had to open gparted and deactivate the automatically mounted LVM partition
[21:26] <rud0lf> is there something special that application.desktop launcher does to the application?
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Inglipz: A thought;  ' pastebin /proc/mounts ' Lets see if there is an old mount around that at some point you failed to unmount a device ???
[21:26] <rud0lf> when i launch eclipse's ELF file directly, it runs smoothly
[21:26] <llutz> Inglipz: recheck using "sudo lshw -class disk"
[21:26] <Guest42761> :q
[21:26] <Bashing-om> gartral: :) You do good work .
[21:27] <rud0lf> but when i make .desktop for it it won't run any code, and even executing by elf wwon't change it
[21:27] <gartral> Bashing-om: no... it's still throwing that same error... wtf?!
[21:28] <amichair> hi, I'm getting inconsistent errors running apt-get update. I see that archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 10 different ip addresses, but most of them return 404 when requesting e.g. http://91.189.88.153/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources.bz2, and the root url looks like a test webserver installation page. Is this normal?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> gartral: Swap partition ? Sometimes the live will use the installed swap partition , Can be turned off in gparted .
[21:29] <gartral> Bashing-om: nope, it's the /home encrypted LVM... it refuses to just be turned off
[21:29] <Inglipz> llutz: I'm probably stupid, but I can't print the output. The command works though.
[21:30] <k1l_> amichair: change the mirror in the system settings
[21:30] <llutz> Inglipz: just check the output, there should be 3 *disk statements listing the drives
[21:30] <gartral> Bashing-om: http://i.imgur.com/9iFMkhS.png http://i.imgur.com/FGk0JzU.png http://i.imgur.com/oO42bkM.png
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Inglipz: The result is a URL back in terminal .. Pass that link back here .
[21:30] <amichair> k1l_: I know how to work around the problem with mirrors... but I'm wondering as to the source of the problem - what's going on with the official repos? are they being hacked? badly maintained? am I missing something?
[21:31] <Gabit> If I press ctrl+x on apt (when viewing file diff), will it kill apt process as well? How do I exit?
[21:31] <k1l_> amichair: its an issue from your DNS.
[21:31] <gartral> Bashing-om: first is the LVM is active, second, i deactivated it, third is it's back to active
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> Gabit  ctrl c
[21:31] <Gabit> MonkeyDust: thanks =)
[21:32] <Inglipz> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/yCxPML7c
[21:32] <amichair> k1l_: I tried an external (online) DNS server, and it resolves to the same 10 IPs... do you see something else? were there any recent changes?
[21:32] <Gabit> did not work :D
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> Gabit  repeatedly
[21:32] <Gabit> I press H, and Less menu opened. I think I got it :D
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> ok
[21:33] <k1l_> amichair: "the servers" are several hundred of servers all around the world.
[21:33] <amichair> k1l_: archive.ubuntu.com resolves to hundreds of ip addresses?
[21:34] <k1l_> amichair: yes. its a loadbalancer
[21:34] <Gabit> Right answer was Q. Live and learn. I usually just run with it, but this was server, did not wanna f up.
[21:35] <Inglipz> llutz: got it. http://pastebin.com/LpH89Jm9
[21:35] <amichair> k1l_: is it normal that many of them (I see 6/10) are empty webservers that look like they've just been installed?
[21:36] <k1l_> amichair: no. they should not be in the rotation then.
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Inglipz: Lots about that /proc/mounts I do not recognize ! Is that from a liveUSB ?
[21:36] <amichair> k1l_: btw I've tried 3 different DNS servers, all returning the same 10 IPs
[21:37] <llutz> Inglipz: there's something missing, "cat /proc/scsi/scsi "
[21:37] <k1l_> amichair: #ubuntu-mirrors for more info
[21:38] <amichair> k1l_: great, thanks!
[21:38] <Inglipz> Bashing-om: Yes I'm doing a clean install of Antergos (adios dualboot!)
[21:40] <Inglipz> llutz: http://pastebin.com/LN4bdw7q
[21:40] <Bashing-om> gartral: I know little about LVM ( encryption ??) .. but as is the logical partition sda5 uses all the space in the extended partition sda2 . I would think that one would have to unlock that extended partition .
[21:40] <reisio> lvm is convenient for encryption, but that's not its sole or primary purpose
[21:41] <llutz> Inglipz: there are 3 drives, no doubt. just go and partition /dev/sda to your needs, install your OS and then find a use for that 24GB ssd
[21:42] <llutz> Inglipz: nobody here can tell you, where that drive came from, but it has nothing to do with dd or something like that.
[21:42] <Inglipz> llutz: Well okay. Seems awfully weird though but I doesn't matter that much I guess. Thanks a lot for your time !
[21:42] <Bashing-om> llutz: Inglipz A new install ? that 24 Gig drive may be raided for ssrt .
[21:42] <reisio> Inglipz: laptop?
[21:43] <reisio> yeah a lot of laptops come with crazy preconfigured raid configs
[21:43] <reisio> which Windows pretends is one drive, and things seeing reality see as the two drive they are
[21:43] <llutz> Inglipz: parted -a optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%
[21:43] <llutz> reisio: but not with two different hardware/vendor IDs
[21:43] <reisio> primary ext4 0% 100%
[21:44] <reisio> llutz: wouldn't think so, no
[21:44] <llutz> reisio: fyi /proc/scsi/scsi: http://pastebin.com/LN4bdw7q
[21:45] <Inglipz> "Could not stat device /dev/sda - Not a directory"
[21:46] <reisio> Inglipz: it's actually parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos; parted -a optimal -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext4 0% 100% or the like
[21:46] <reisio> dunno what you're doing, though
[21:46]  * reisio just got here
[21:46] <dave__> como veo herramienta escritorio remoto
[21:46] <Inglipz> reisio: Yep laptop with 1To hdd.
[21:46] <cfhowlett> !es | dave__
[21:46] <Inglipz> reisio: Full Antergos install.
[21:47] <reisio> ...
[21:47] <llutz> Inglipz: support ends here, then
[21:48] <reisio> I was just thinking how superfluous that factoid was, myself :p
[21:48] <Inglipz> llutz: I'll try that last command and just do a full install on that sda if it doesn't work. Thanks for the support
[21:49] <dave__> ourque}
[21:49] <dave__> porque
[21:49] <dave__> porque
[21:49] <dave__> support no
[21:49] <dave__> nono
[21:50] <dave__> no
[21:50] <reisio> nonooon
[21:50] <dave__> no
[21:50] <Ladon> !es | dave__
[21:50] <cfhowlett> dave__, no english, no support
[21:50] <dave__> como entro
[21:51] <dave__> no
[21:52] <reisio> no
[21:52] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Are you free to look at an LVM situation - gartral : http://i.imgur.com/9iFMkhS.png . Looks as the poster wants to install 15.10 .
[21:52] <dave__> no
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> dave__  stop
[21:53] <cfhowlett> dave__, no mas!
[21:53] <dave__> si
[21:53] <Seveas> Bashing-om: where's the lvm setup? I only see a pv. Not the vg that it goes into or the lv's to put filesystems on :)
[21:53] <dave__> yes
[21:54] <dave__> eblen español
[21:54] <dave__> ablen español
[21:54] <k1l_> !es | dave__
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Seveas: Got me .. LVM not in my tool box .. maybe on other drives ??
[21:55] <Seveas> Bashing-om: heh, I can see LVM isn't in your toolbox, that suggestion makes no sense :)
[21:55] <k1l_> dave__: read the bots message and join the spanish channel.
[21:55] <agressiveMonk> Is anybody alive out there?
[21:55] <reisio> nope
[21:55] <k1l_> !ask | agressiveMonk
[21:55] <Seveas> Bashing-om: basically with this partition setup, the ubuntu installed can just do its thing. What's the problem installing?
[21:56] <Seveas> agressiveMonk: we're all zombies
[21:56] <agressiveMonk> lol
[21:56]  * reisio destroys Seveas' brain
[21:56] <agressiveMonk> Fella, i have a question to ask
[21:56] <reisio> the rest of us are, anyway
[21:56] <reisio> agressiveMonk: prove it
[21:56] <agressiveMonk> can you guide me a bit?
[21:56] <reisio> a byte, perhaps
[21:56] <Seveas> agressiveMonk: not if you don't ask the question :)
[21:56] <cfhowlett> !ask | agressiveMonk
[21:56] <reisio> "the spice"
[21:57] <Seveas> "the spice girls"
[21:57] <reisio> "it's the question that drives us"
[21:57] <Spec> mmm spice
[21:57] <agressiveMonk> I want to know if Counter Strike: Global Offensive runs better on Ubuntu than Windows
[21:57] <agressiveMonk> can you tell me if it does?
[21:57] <cfhowlett> easy and free to test for yourself.
[21:57] <reisio> agressiveMonk: that a steam native?
[21:58] <cfhowlett> !steam | agressiveMonk,
[21:58] <agressiveMonk> yes
[21:58] <reisio> agressiveMonk: cross platform games are usually more performant on Unix systems
[21:58] <cfhowlett> agressiveMonk, as noted above, ask #ubuntu-steam
[21:59] <agressiveMonk> :) thanks for replies, i will discuss with #ubuntu-steam
[22:03] <cristian_> hello
[22:03] <reisio> 'lo
[22:04] <cristian_> how re you doing guys?
[22:04] <reisio> super ok
[22:04] <reisio> you?
[22:04] <cristian_> fine at univ
[22:04] <cristian_> right now
[22:04] <reisio> not me, I'm at apt
[22:04] <cfhowlett> your ubuntu question, cristian_ ??
[22:05] <reisio> not me, I'm at apt ?? ftfm
[22:05] <cristian_> can i share wife like a hotspot with other computer?
[22:05] <cristian_> wifi
[22:05] <cristian_> hah
[22:05] <reisio> bahahah :p
[22:05] <reisio> yes
[22:06] <kde_user> hello guys.   i used two extra monitors  with my laptop in ubuntu. 1) VGA out monitor 2) USB -> DVI displaylink monitor.    but after upgrading system,/or plymouth I found : VGA monitor not showing. The laptop only recognize the displaylink(via USB) monitor but the laptop monitor has a KDE wallpaper, but my mouth can not get in. Also, in system settings, Section Display, I only found 1 monitor.
[22:06] <reisio> cristian_: look into hostapd
[22:06] <kde_user> and it's only the displaylink USB monitor.
[22:06] <kde_user> how to fix this?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !ics to share your wife | cristian_
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !ics
[22:08] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: horrible, horrible typo :)
[22:08] <lucian> Hello there, I'm using ubuntu 15.10, it does work well with ctrl+alt+(1|2|3), when I enter the graphical mode with ctrl+alt+F7 it just freezes. The /var/syslog has a lot of ^@ after this:  [<ffffffff817f2d72>] entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x16/0x75    Does anyone know what is this problem??
[22:08] <Bashing-om> gartral: We have been in discussion . seems GParted no can do .. must use the terminal to mess about with LVM .
[22:09] <Seveas> lucian: that does look like a kernel panic. Can you pastebin the last 30 lines before the ^@'s please
[22:09] <lucian> @Seveas Sure
[22:09] <lucian> [<ffffffffc0309930>] radeon_resume_kms+0x210/0x3d0 [radeon] [<ffffffffc0307143>] radeon_pmops_runtime_resume+0x73/0xb0 [radeon] [<ffffffff8141571f>] pci_pm_runtime_resume+0x7f/0xb0 [<ffffffff81519bc9>] vga_switcheroo_runtime_resume+0x39/0x40 [<ffffffff8152b737>] __rpm_callback+0x37/0x80 [<ffffffff81519b90>] ? vga_switcheroo_runtime_suspend+0x60/0x60 [<ffffffff8152b7a8>] rpm_callback+0x28/0x90 [<ffffffff81519b90>] ? vga_switcheroo_runt
[22:11] <gde33> is in "remove obsolete packages?" the >no longer needed (5) menu suppose to not fold out?
[22:11] <Seveas> lucian: that's not 30 lines and not a pastebin....
[22:11] <gde33> ahh I have to click the >
[22:17] <gde33> can one have vlc run the hevc h.265?
[22:17] <\ni> gde33, yes
[22:18] <cfhowlett> gde33, yep
[22:18] <gde33> I've upgraded vlc to 2.2.1 but it wont play them
[22:19] <gde33> I have to:  sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-*     ?
[22:20] <reisio> gde33: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-libde265
[22:20] <gde33> ah that sounds more specific
[22:20] <gde33> ty
[22:21] <reisio> might need a ppa, actually <shrug> http://askubuntu.com/questions/362745/how-to-install-h-265-hevc-codec-on-ubuntu-linux
[22:21] <gde33> I already added that to install 2.2.1 :)
[22:21] <reisio> :D
[22:21] <gde33> it works, jay!
[22:22] <gde33> now if only I could find a torrent client that doesn't want to check all my files first
[22:22] <lucian> Hello there, I'm using ubuntu 15.10, it does work well with ctrl+alt+(1|2|3), when I enter the graphical mode with ctrl+alt+F7 it just freezes. The /var/syslog has a lot of ^@ after this:  [<ffffffff817f2d72>] entry_SYSCALL_64_fastpath+0x16/0x75    Does anyone know what is this problem?? Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/hvp3TTA2
[22:22] <reisio> gde33: what's wrong with that
[22:23] <gde33> well.... I admit sticking an 8TB on an usb 2 was a briliant idea on my behalf
[22:23] <Seveas> lucian: as I said, pastebin the log...
[22:23] <reisio> gde33: heh
[22:23] <lucian> Seveas I posted the link to the log
[22:23] <Seveas> lucian: where?
[22:24] <lucian> this is the link with the log: http://pastebin.com/hvp3TTA2
[22:24] <Seveas> ah. doh. irc clent made that message look ood
[22:24] <halvors> Hi. How to change the permission of a folder from drw-r----- to -rw-r-----
[22:24] <reisio> halvors: why for?
[22:25] <k1l_> halvors: that doesnt make sense
[22:25] <lucian> Seveas: I see, I'm using freenode, how can I post weblinks?
[22:25] <Seveas> lucian: ok, looks like we need a bit more of the log. Everything starting from the first line with [<ffff (and preferably the last 10 or so lines before that as well
[22:25] <Seveas> lucian: no, you posted it fine, my client was misleading me :)
[22:25] <Seveas> halvors: the d isn't a permission. It means 'this is a directory' :)
[22:27] <halvors> Ah.
[22:28] <lucian> Seveas this is much of the log http://pastebin.com/9JCdRPu2
[22:30] <Seveas> lucian: so, not a kernel panic but not much better. Hangs in the radion code. Can you try an older Ubuntu version, or maybe the beta of 16.04?
[22:31] <lucian> Seveas I think this is a GPU problem, this is also happening with Windows OS, os maybe just a GPU driver problem
[22:32] <lucian> Seveas there's an onboard GPU with the Intel CPU, and the Radeon GPU on this laptop, on a live usb it's working all fine
[22:43] <lucian> seveas ?
[22:44] <stochastix> ummmm, is it true?
[22:45] <stochastix> nevermind
[22:45] <stochastix> I got to the april fools part
[22:45] <stochastix> its not even april 1 yet what the crap
[22:46] <stochastix> http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-buys-canonical-kills-ubuntu-linux-forever/
[22:47] <terrasapien> does this mean we're going to get a talking paper clip in 16.04?
[22:48] <reisio> jumping the gun is traditional april fools
[22:48] <Seveas> stochastix: it's april 1 in .eu. Do not believe the internet.
[22:48] <reisio> plus, it's already April 1 in some countries
[22:48] <reisio> yeah
[22:48] <stochastix> Yea, if I saw it tomorrow i never would have fallen for it lol
[22:48] <reisio> good practice to disbelieve the internet every day of the year, TBH
[22:49] <Seveas> that too
[22:49] <stochastix> I still hate Microsoft even more because of the article ha.
[22:49] <stochastix> Good lasting effect.
[22:50] <Seveas> Microsoft is pretty awesome
[22:50] <Seveas> Don't hate :)
[22:51] <stochastix> Now we need an article. Canonical buys Microsoft and removes all of the spyware out of windows 10.
[22:52] <kmyst> i just did a fresh install of server 14.04.4 amd64, i login and see two disclaimers :)
[22:52] <k1l_> !ubuwin
[22:54] <stochastix> So, is MS going to give ubuntu the same flavor and let MS apps run in linux? No more wine?
[22:55] <stochastix> I guess MS doesnt realize, we dont run linux for the programs. We run Linux for get the crap away from microsoft. Why would I want to run
[22:55] <stochastix> well, now that i think if it, I was wishing that I could run konversation irc client in win7 the other say lol
[22:55] <k1l_> stochastix: #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss please
[22:56] <stochastix> oops, heh
[22:57] <stochastix> funny how talking about running applications in linux or vice versa is now off tipic heh
[22:58] <k1l_> stochastix: funny how many more hints you need to check you are still in the wrong channel for your chitchat.
[22:59] <stochastix> :)
[22:59] <stochastix> k, Ill ask a real ques
[22:59] <\ni> stochastix, I fell the same way as you. I'm leaving gb
[23:00] <gde33> can I have irc:// [web] links open kvirc?
[23:00] <stochastix> well actually i need to ask in kubuntu maybe, nevermind.
[23:01] <bet0x> Only a Microsoft monkey and someone at Ubuntu will call "Linux on Windows" something wich doesn't have a Linux Kernel (without the kernel there is no Linux). Please dear moron who invented this shit, stop calling it "Linux on Windows" because you are porting just GNU Tools and a bunch of open source software, nothing else.
[23:03] <stochastix> bet0x:  lol good point
[23:03] <docmur> Is it possible to allow a user to use sudo <command> but not sudo -s, aka not elevate up the root user
[23:03] <bet0x> stochastix, the last insult from MS and Canonical
[23:03] <EriC^^> docmur: yes, you add him to /etc/sudoers using visudo
[23:03] <gde33> this article kept me laughing for years http://www.infoworld.com/article/2683823/microsoft-windows/the--linuxification--of-windows-has-begun.html
[23:04] <EriC^^> docmur: user ALL: (ALL) /path/to/command
[23:04] <bet0x> Stop calling it Linux on Windows, geez
[23:04] <stochastix> gde33: resistance is futile :)
[23:04] <k1l_> !ubuwin | stochastix gde33 bet0x
[23:04] <docmur> right but what if I want him / her to execute all the commands root could, just not do something like sudo -s, would I have to add a new command line for each command?
[23:05] <EriC^^> docmur: that's kind of pointless now isn't it
[23:06] <k1l_> docmur: you could set the command to not ask for pw
[23:17] <noraatepernos> How do you know if memcached is paging to disk?
[23:18] <masquerade> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and don't seem to have the vcan kernel module. I can't seem to find any documentation about its removal or any package that it could be installed via. Anyone have any tips for next places I should look?
[23:23] <nacc> masquerade: is it just not loaded?
[23:24] <nacc> masquerade: in 16.04, at least, it appears to be a module
[23:24] <maaku> So on 15.10 and later, udev is renaming vlans from "eth1.50" to "rename5". Anyone know how to stop this?
[23:25] <masquerade> nacc: Well, no, but I figured it out just now, it apparently is in linux-image-extra
[23:28] <TJ-> maaku: that's an artifact of udevd's renaming code. It would suggests the name it is trying to use as the destination is already present
[23:29] <mikek> mikek
[23:29] <mikek> yoyo
[23:29] <mikek> cfelton*
[23:30] <mikek> #myhdl
[23:31] <TJ-> maaku: was the system release-upgraded from 14.04 at any time, or is it a fresh clean installation?
[23:31] <maaku> fresh clean
[23:31] <maaku> i found this debian bug that exactly describes the problem, currently reading https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412348
[23:31] <TJ-> maaku: is the 'biosdevname' package installed?
[23:32] <maaku> dpkg --get-selections | grep biosdevname == nothing
[23:32] <TJ-> maaku: ok, so one less possible interaction. That's good.
[23:32] <maaku> thanks
[23:35] <TJ-> maaku: the process is kernel says 'new IF = eth0', systemd-udevd says right, lets rename that blighter to reflect its hardware connection (e.g. enp3s0 - Ethernet, Port 2, Slot 0), but because there are several udev processes running in parallel that may conflict it does eth0 > rename1 > enp3s0. Now, if enp3s0 is already there for some reason the 2nd renaming fails and the interface gets left on the rename1
[23:35] <TJ-> name
[23:36] <TJ-> maaku: in these times of systemd-udevd this conflict should never be able to occur since the physical interface names are always going to be unique. However, for virtual interfaces that isn't true. If you've got multiple virtual interfaces it is possible this is being triggered
[23:36] <maaku> TJ-: so the problem as I understand it is because this is a vlan interface, it shares the same mac address etc. as eth1
[23:36] <maaku> so udev is trying to rename it eth1
[23:37] <TJ-> maaku: I'd hope it isn't that silly (MAC address shouldn't be considered), but I've not looked at that area of code recently.
[23:37] <TJ-> maaku: I've got vlan interfaces without any issues. how many vlan IFs is the system bringing up at start-up?
[23:37] <maaku> TJ-: well to get around other stupidity I have a udev rule to rename eth1 from it's original persistent name
[23:38] <TJ-> maaku: hmmm; have you tried disabling that local rule for a test?
[23:38] <maaku> doing that now
[23:38] <maaku> or rather rewriting the rules..
[23:39] <maaku> The other stupidity btw is that because it is a USB ethernet is has a name enxXXYYZZXXYYZZ, so a vlan of enxXXYYZZXXYYZZ.50 would exceed the maximum 15 char limit
[23:39] <TJ-> maaku: you can also have udev do some extensive logging
[23:39] <maaku> The other stupidity btw is that because it is a USB ethernet is has a name enxXXYYZZXXYYZZ, so a vlan of enxXXYYZZXXYYZZ.50 would exceed the maximum 15 char limit
[23:39] <TJ-> maaku: yes; it was rather an oversight to do that
[23:40] <TJ-> maaku: if only originally Linux had put the IFs in the file-system like everything else; then all you need is a symlink like with block devices
[23:50] <sruli> is it possible to make a ecryptfs with a keyfile instead of pass?
[23:56] <maaku> TJ-: rewriting the udev rule to be specific to the physical interface, not the vlan solved the problem
[23:56] <zykotick9> sruli: <sidenote> if you can, consider using luks instead... ymmv.  good luck.
[23:56] <maaku> unfortunately the only rule I could devise to identify the physical interface was ATTR{ifindex}=="3" ... which seems super hacky
[23:57] <sruli> zykotick9: need to sync it with other PC, cant use luks
[23:57] <zykotick9> sruli: understood.  best of luck.  it was just a <sidenote> ;)
[23:58] <sruli> thanks
[23:58] <Lisandriah> I've tried installing ubuntu 14.04.4 3 times now and it always just boots into a busybox screen, does that mean my hd has problems?