| netphreak | Evening, guys! | 00:31 |
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| netphreak | Any news on the Snappy RaspberryPi 3 support | 00:42 |
| netphreak | ? | 00:42 |
| manik_ | netphreak: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2016-March/001639.html | 00:48 |
| manik_ | chiluk: we officially support plan to support the 96boards' dragonboard 410c for aarch64 | 00:49 |
| netphreak | Great news :) | 00:59 |
| netphreak | I suppose bluetooth and wifi is supported? | 00:59 |
| manik | netphreak: i haven't played with it myself, no h/w | 01:00 |
| manik | please check with ogra tmrw and confirm | 01:00 |
| netphreak | ok.. | 01:00 |
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| beiriannydd | hello from snappy/docker | 04:52 |
| beiriannydd | weird thing, I had problems building on snappy, so I exported the home volume to another docker container and built in that and everything worked | 04:52 |
| beiriannydd | permissions being squashed? | 04:53 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:47 |
| mvip | morning, didrocks :) | 08:58 |
| mvip | was working on other things yesterday | 08:58 |
| mvip | or asac maybe you know as well -- what's the deal with PPA builds for snaps? | 09:18 |
| mvip | I've spoken to a few guys and they said that we should look into that for building our snaps, but I cannot seem to find any docs about that (i.e. building ARM snaps) | 09:18 |
| asac | mvip: yes | 09:29 |
| asac | i think that service is available in beta | 09:29 |
| asac | let me check | 09:30 |
| asac | let me try something | 09:32 |
| asac | mvip: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac if you go to your code page (not asac) | 09:33 |
| asac | do you see something about snap packages on the rigth? | 09:33 |
| mvip | asac so hmm we haven't pushed any code there yet, so i'd have to first create a package. Give me a few | 09:34 |
| mvip | but yes, i see a 'snap package' link | 09:35 |
| asac | mvip: i just creawted a test package: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/+snap/tomcat-webapp-demo | 09:35 |
| asac | so just push sopmething with snapcraft.yaml there | 09:35 |
| asac | you can also use git if you dont like bzr | 09:35 |
| mvip | ah thank god ;) | 09:35 |
| asac | then there is a link "request a snap package" | 09:35 |
| asac | you hit that | 09:36 |
| asac | and after you can navigate to that snap package and hit "request a build" | 09:36 |
| asac | where you can select amd64 and i386 right now | 09:36 |
| asac | at least thats the experience i get | 09:36 |
| mvip | will this be integrated in the app store? | 09:37 |
| asac | ah i can also request arm | 09:37 |
| asac | you hav to configure processor | 09:37 |
| asac | athen you have more acrchitecture | 09:37 |
| asac | mvip: for sure at some point :) | 09:37 |
| mvip | ;) | 09:37 |
| asac | for now you have to upload yourself and sign it for 16 i guess | 09:37 |
| mvip | cool alright let me play around with this for a bit | 09:37 |
| mvip | ah right, there's a signing process too | 09:38 |
| asac | but natural evolution of this is to allow you to directly opush to edge channel in store or so | 09:38 |
| mvip | exactly | 09:38 |
| asac | right. but surely this can be delgated to maybe a builder key or something | 09:38 |
| mvip | yeah let me play with this for a bit and bug you more later ;) | 09:38 |
| didrocks | asac: mvip: hey! yeah, it's not in beta anymore, just need to push a bzr branch | 09:39 |
| mvip | didrocks alright i just installed bzr on my box ;) | 09:40 |
| mvip | going to test with some snappy sample code | 09:40 |
| asac | didrocks: where is the announce mail? | 09:41 |
| * asac tried to find it but the search DEITY wasnt on his side | 09:41 | |
| didrocks | asac: I don't think cjwatson made a public one | 09:41 |
| asac | oh ok | 09:41 |
| didrocks | I just read it written on IRC and some ML :) | 09:41 |
| asac | didrocks: maybe you wanna blocg about it and update ML with the blog? | 09:41 |
| asac | yeah well, i thought i saw an annoucne somewhere too | 09:41 |
| asac | but couldnt find | 09:41 |
| asac | *shrug* | 09:41 |
| asac | wonder what happens if you build a snap for powerpc | 09:42 |
| asac | :) | 09:42 |
| asac | wonde why the tomcat example failed though | 09:42 |
| asac | err where are the logs>? | 09:43 |
| asac | didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/+snap/tomcat-webapp-demo/+build/449 | 09:43 |
| mvip | didrocks OT, but here's a bash script that you can use for the updated marketing page for flashing out the disk image. https://gist.github.com/vpetersson/6346d67c8466ed513c3adb716a054cdd | 09:43 |
| didrocks | asac: yeah, that would be great if some of us can blog about it, but already not enough time to do what I need to do… | 09:43 |
| mvip | it's a bit rough still but with some polish it could streamline the flashing a fair amount | 09:43 |
| didrocks | mvip: oh nice, thaks! Yeah, I'll have a look | 09:43 |
| didrocks | (this is on Mac, right? I see diskutils being used) | 09:44 |
| mvip | didrocks i can put it in a github repo if you want | 09:44 |
| mvip | didrocks yeah, but should be relatively easy to make it conditional to Linux too | 09:44 |
| didrocks | mvip: just a note, bs=32M | 09:44 |
| didrocks | that's better than 1Meg nowdays :) | 09:44 |
| mvip | didrocks haha yeah | 09:44 |
| mvip | didrocks let me throw it up in a github repo | 09:45 |
| didrocks | ok ;) | 09:45 |
| asac | ogra_: did yo guys find a real fix for the sudoers thing yesterday? | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | asac, sure, for both bugs ... a) dont loop mount sudoers with a readonly file ... b) mount /dev/pts in the container | 09:51 |
| asac | ogra_: did you land the fix? | 09:52 |
| ogra_ | land ? | 09:52 |
| asac | yes, is it fixed now> | 09:52 |
| asac | ? | 09:52 |
| ogra_ | i have no idea where either of them would have to land | 09:52 |
| asac | so wee dont want to fix it? | 09:52 |
| ogra_ | thats an mvo thing | 09:53 |
| ogra_ | jamie wanted to talk to him | 09:53 |
| mvip | didrocks: https://github.com/vpetersson/sdflasher | 09:53 |
| * ogra_ sighs | 09:55 | |
| ogra_ | there must be a million of such scripts out there ... and every year someone writes a new one :P | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | i should re-vive ubuntu-imagewriter ;) | 09:57 |
| didrocks | mvip: PR your way :) | 09:57 |
| mvip | ogra_ i'm sure, but are any of them platform independent (OS X + Linux) and supports multiple formats of image files? :) | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, make a note that widows users need windows 10 for bash scripts ;) | 09:58 |
| mvip | ogra_ haha | 09:58 |
| mvip | didrocks awesome | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | mvip, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles | 09:59 |
| didrocks | ogra_: good one :p | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | add the script there too if you want to officially promote it | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | thats where all other pages link to (for user documentation at least) | 10:00 |
| ogra_ | hmm, and the imagewriter bit should be removed | 10:00 |
| mvip | ogra_ might as well add it there, yeah. Thanks | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | (would also be nice if you could make that script consistent .... thats half bash and half POSIX shell ) | 10:03 |
| mvip | ogra_: it says 'immutable page' for me | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | logged in ? | 10:04 |
| mvip | ogra_ yup | 10:04 |
| mvip | ogra_: yeah, this was just a hackish script i had laying around that has grown over time. Need to clean it up a bit more | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | just drop the [[]] from your if/elsif .... | 10:05 |
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| mvip | asac i was able to build a snap using the PPA. Yay! :) | 10:44 |
| mvip | asac it's very slow however. | 10:54 |
| mvip | asac been waiting for 15 min now for building the 'py3-test' example and it says 23 minutes remaining. | 10:54 |
| mvip | (for arm build) | 10:54 |
| mvip | hmm now i got 'Failed to build' but no error description at all. | 10:57 |
| asac | mvip: yes i already flaggedt hat issue. folks say it happened during LP upgrade yesterday and said they will investigate asap | 11:30 |
| asac | i dont know why arm is slow... if its slow building its probably not beefy builders or even emulators | 11:30 |
| asac | if its just long wait before it gets build it just means long build queue | 11:31 |
| asac | usually temporary because someone is doing an archive rebuild or something on the bilders | 11:31 |
| mvip | asac got it. thanks | 11:33 |
| mvip | asac well at least i know how to build it now. | 11:33 |
| mvip | btw, can we create a (private) projects w/ multiple contributors somehow? | 11:34 |
| asac | please shoot me a mail for that question. thanks | 11:34 |
| mvip | asac sure thing | 11:35 |
| ogra_ | yeah, arm builders are non-native by default for PPAs unless you explicitly ask for native | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | (use the canonical-arm-dev PPA if you want native, i can add you to it if needed) | 11:42 |
| mvip | ogra_ how do I ask for native ones? | 11:42 |
| mvip | ah :) | 11:42 |
| mvip | ogra_ yes please ('vpetersson') | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | mvip, oops, sorry, that PPA is canonical only | 11:45 |
| * ogra_ forgot about that | 11:46 | |
| mvip | ogra_ meh. ;( | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | sorry for that | 11:47 |
| kyrofa | Good morning | 12:53 |
| josepht | good morning | 13:02 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, I have a seccomp question for you when you get in | 13:11 |
| jdstrand | kyrofa: go ahead | 13:22 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, good morning! | 13:23 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, simple question, I think: why do we use SCMP_ACT_KILL as opposed to SCMP_ACT_TRAP in the launcher? | 13:23 |
| jdstrand | niemeyer, zyga: I've been looking at our udev tagging and there are several bugs on 16.04 (that's ok, zyga's udev branch hasn't landed yet so we'll just fix them) | 13:24 |
| jdstrand | kyrofa: trap is racy | 13:24 |
| zyga | jdstrand: in my branch or in the code outside of snappy? | 13:24 |
| zyga | jdstrand: can you be more specific | 13:24 |
| jdstrand | zyga: everywhere :) | 13:24 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, ah! It was indeed a simple question then, thank you :) | 13:24 |
| zyga | jdstrand: can you please tell me more (just enough) | 13:24 |
| jdstrand | zyga: on 15.04 we generate things like this: | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | zyga: I'm getting there, hold on :) | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | KERNEL=="kmsg", TAG:="snappy-assign", ENV{SNAPPY_APP}:="hello-world.canonical" | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | that's fine | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | in the current 16.04 code, we do something like: | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | KERNEL=="kmsg", TAG:="snappy-assign", ENV{SNAPPY_APP}:="hello-world.echo" | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | KERNEL=="kmsg", TAG:="snappy-assign", ENV{SNAPPY_APP}:="hello-world.env" | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | KERNEL=="kmsg", TAG:="snappy-assign", ENV{SNAPPY_APP}:="hello-world.evil" | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | ... | 13:26 |
| zyga | jdstrand: and those overwrite? | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | the idea was I'm assuming to allow each individual app access to the device | 13:26 |
| zyga | jdstrand: (I mentioned that yesterday) | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | yes, := overwrites. only one of those will work | 13:27 |
| zyga | jdstrand: anyway, the other meeting is about to start, if you want we can jump there and we can continue this in a second | 13:27 |
| jdstrand | ok | 13:27 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, is ERRNO also racy? | 13:27 |
| jdstrand | kyrofa: no. I suggested errno as EPERM and was told that we prefer kill | 13:28 |
| zyga | jdstrand: can we merge those so that we just say ENV{SNAPPY_APP}="hello-world.echo,hello-world.env,hello-world.evil" ? | 13:28 |
| jdstrand | zyga: well, there seems to be some bugs on property match | 13:28 |
| jdstrand | I'm not sure yet | 13:28 |
| zyga | jdstrand: I see | 13:28 |
| kyrofa | jdstrand, oh, that's too bad! | 13:28 |
| zyga | jdstrand: thanks for mentioning this | 13:28 |
| zyga | jdstrand: it's not used by any interface yet | 13:28 |
| jdstrand | no | 13:29 |
| zyga | jdstrand: but it will be required for various hw-assign-like scenarios | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | I knew the review was coming and it is related to my 'remove needle detection from launcher' bug | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | zyga: of course | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | zyga: I wanted to talk to pitti about it, but still investigating | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | I actually have a method that works | 13:30 |
| zyga | jdstrand: let's join the hangout | 13:30 |
| jdstrand | zyga: is per app device assignment a requirement? | 13:30 |
| jdstrand | zyga: link? | 13:30 |
| zyga | jdstrand: did you get it, I'm not nickserv-registered | 13:31 |
| zyga | jdstrand: also sent on telegram | 13:31 |
| jdstrand | I got it. I joined what you pasted | 13:31 |
| zyga | morphis: hey, can we discuss the work you are doing here? | 14:13 |
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| elopio | sergiusens: can I change the mqtt parts in the wiki to use https? | 17:07 |
| elopio | that won't break anything, afaics | 17:07 |
| sergiusens | elopio, sure | 17:40 |
| kyrofa | Is it possible to change the keyboard layout in snappy? | 18:15 |
| kyrofa | I assume dpkg-reconfigure isn't going to work | 18:17 |
| sergiusens | elopio, can you explain this http://162.213.35.179:8080/job/github-snapcraft-autopkgtest-cloud/350/console ? | 18:25 |
| sergiusens | kyrofa, it was possible in the past, not sure snappy config ubuntu-core still exposes it | 18:25 |
| kyrofa | sergiusens, alright thanks, doesn't look like it | 18:47 |
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