[01:49] <ahoneybun> anyone having bluetooth issues on the N7 OTA9.1?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> coffeetime :p
[11:52] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: ping
[16:41] <mr_Henk> Somebody here know how to get Touch into a Nexus7/deb ?
[16:43] <mr_Henk> I have been attempting to get it done from system-image.tasemnice.eu the last few days, but I get only the recovery into the device. The next step - "reboot for flashing" - fails early displaying a 'broken chip'. At that point "dmesg" from "adb shell" displays "adbd (292): /proc/292/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/292/oom_score_adj instead." on the last line.
[16:44] <popey> deb is nexus 7 2012?
[16:44] <popey> or 2013 + gsm?
[16:44] <mr_Henk> 2013 wifi+lte
[16:44] <popey> I don't think we ever made an image for that.
[16:45] <mr_Henk> No, there's no offical one, but there is one linked to, at ^- tasemnice
[16:49] <popey> Sorry, i don't know
[16:49] <mr_Henk> Would a "preinstall" -version work, at least partly? (maybe no gsm/lte?)
[17:01] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: Could you please show last few lines from /tmp/recovery.log in recovery while screen is showing broken chip?
[17:02] <mr_Henk> Hmm... Ok I'll try that; need to restart the install though so will take a bit of time. I'll come back when done.
[17:07] <mr_Henk> peat-psuwit: any preferemce for the channels on tasemnice.eu? utopic or vivid is present, with devel version.
[17:09]  * mr_Henk has a tendency to miss key on the keyboard.
[17:16] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: I've never used that server, but currently all developments happen in rc-proposed channel, which is based on vivid.
[17:18] <mr_Henk> ok, I'll change to plain "vivid" then (utopic started), hopefully that'll make less questions.
[17:28] <mr_Henk> peat-psuwit: tail /tmp/recovery.log ...
[17:28] <mr_Henk> Loading keyring: image-master.tar.xz
[17:28] <mr_Henk> Loading keyring: image-signing.tar.xz
[17:28] <mr_Henk> __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for localtime!
[17:28] <mr_Henk> __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for GMT!
[17:28] <mr_Henk> __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for posixrules!
[17:28] <mr_Henk> Keyring expired: /cache/recovery/image-signing.tar.xz
[17:28] <mr_Henk> E:Ubuntu update failed
[17:30] <mr_Henk> I've been peeking on the server, this seems to be a Touch version from April 2014, I'll repeat this with a channel that seems more up to date (23 feb 2016)
[17:40] <mr_Henk> The result is the same (as above). Would you say there is something that I can try to get further? Seems be a TZ problem, by my eyes.
[17:41] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: tzdata things are normal. output from command "date"?
[17:41] <mr_Henk> Sat Apr  2 17:40:59 GMT 2016
[17:41] <mr_Henk> Normal
[17:41] <mr_Henk> the keyring is "old" then?
[17:45] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: Very likely the reason.
[17:45] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: From what I can see by querying the server, there's even no rc-proposed on it. So I think the port is left unmaintained for a while now.
[17:46] <mr_Henk> My last attempt was with "version 444" from here http://system-image.tasemnice.eu/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/deb/
[17:47] <mr_Henk> The dates on the files suggest that it was created 23 feb 206
[17:47] <mr_Henk> 2016
[17:47] <mr_Henk> Might be a very private project :-]
[17:48] <Piece_Maker> is the nexus 4 still well-supported by ubuntu touch? im seeing if i can grab one for playing with it xD
[17:48] <mr_Henk> peat-psuwit: Right, thanks for helping me with this :-)
[17:49] <peat-psuwit> mr_Henk: You're welcome.
[17:49] <Piece_Maker> it seems all the newest convergence demo vids are done on a nexus 4 so i think im safe?
[17:52] <dobey> mr_Henk: you should use the rc-proposed or stable channel from http://system-image.ubports.com/ for deb, probably
[17:52] <dobey> mr_Henk: you do not want devel-proposed channel
[17:52] <dobey> Piece_Maker: yes, nexus4 works
[17:52] <Piece_Maker> cool ;D cant wait to give it a play
[17:53] <Piece_Maker> ive been wanting a replacement for my firefoxOS phone since mozilla killed that OS (for phones)... im a bit lost, but i think ubuntu touch might be my new home
[17:54] <dobey> cool
[17:55] <mr_Henk> dobey: Hey, thanks - I'll try that :-)
[17:56] <peat-psuwit> dobey: I don't think UBPorts has deb in their server. https://devices.ubports.com/
[17:57] <mr_Henk> peat-psuwit: it seem they have, just listed them
[18:07] <mr_Henk> zapper
[18:07] <mr_Henk> bugger
[18:14] <mr_Henk> dobey: ;-)  I tried the rc-proposed channel...
[18:14] <mr_Henk> Loading keyring: image-master.tar.xz
[18:14] <mr_Henk> Invalid signature: /cache/recovery/image-master.tar.xz
[18:14] <mr_Henk> E:Ubuntu update failed
[18:15]  * mr_Henk *chuckles*
[18:15] <dodoload> anyone online?
[18:16] <dobey> don't know that error
[18:16] <dobey> !ask | dodoload
[18:16] <ubot5`> dodoload: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:17] <mr_Henk> dobey: Ok. I'll keep tryin, ;-)
[18:18] <dodoload> ok ok sorry, I'm new to IRC and thought this was maybe a forgotten place. Ok, my question: how does Convergence actually work. I mean the terminal app for examepl
[18:19] <dodoload> is it the same on the phone as on the DE?
[18:19] <dobey> it is not the same terminal app as in the traditional Ubuntu PC installation, no
[18:20] <dobey> but the terminal app can be used on a PC too, yes
[18:21] <dodoload> This can be found on the official website: "When you see your application on the phone and then use that application on the desktop, it is the exact same code running each application."
[18:21] <dobey> when you plug a "converged device' (like the new bq tablet) into an external display, the apps are still the same ones as you run with the device in "tablet mode"
[18:21] <dobey> yes
[18:21] <dodoload> Ah ok, I get it now :)
[18:22] <Piece_Maker> dodoload: i think the main thing right now is, the 'normal' desktop ubuntu version right now isnt running unity 8 (which is the one on phones, with mir etc) - once that becomes the default on desktop, the apps will presumably come with it
[18:23] <dodoload> Wow I'm really waiting for Unity 8
[18:23] <Piece_Maker> im not an expert, but i would assume we are in a chicken-egg situation with it right now
[18:24] <dodoload> what do you mean with this chicken egg situation?
[18:24] <Piece_Maker> users arent using unity 8 on the desktop because not everything is working mir (drivers apps etc), but canonical obviously dont want to make it default until those things are all working
[18:26] <dodoload> I tried U8 on Virtualbox several times but each time, it crashes
[18:26] <Piece_Maker> not to mention that, as far as i know, the desktop version of unity 8 isnt 'feature complete' and so again it wont be the default until thats the case, but thats just a matter of time ;d
[18:26] <dodoload> Btw, do you think it would be possible in the next versions of Ubuntu Desktop to send sms? (like its possible on OSX)
[18:29] <Piece_Maker> doesnt OSX essentially just hook up to your phone to send SMS from that?
[18:30] <dodoload> yeah :p
[18:30] <dobey> it has been possible to send SMS from Ubuntu since forever. but there isn't very nice integration of it.
[18:30] <Piece_Maker> i think KDE connect has that ability
[18:30] <Piece_Maker> dunno if there is anything else
[18:30] <dodoload> that's what I mean: there should be a better integration in the Ubuntu ecosystem
[18:31] <Piece_Maker> i think though the convergence ideal is that you just plug your phone into a screen and send SMS directly from it using the bluetooth keyboard :P
[18:32] <dodoload> that would be awesome
[18:33] <dodoload> another example: i would really like to have an option on the taskbar to stream to Kodi
[18:33] <dodoload> Ubuntu tried with "Ubuntu tv" but I don't think it really became somehting useful
[18:33] <Piece_Maker> to stream what to kodi? a deskto capture?
[18:34] <dodoload> the desktop (live), videos, music, ...
[18:35] <Piece_Maker> doesnt really sound like thats canonicals job to implement XD dont most video players (eg. VLC) support that sort of thing?
[18:35] <dodoload> wow really? I will definitly check it :D
[18:36] <Piece_Maker> i could be wrong.. i dont really use kodi xD
[18:36] <dodoload> haha np :p
[20:25] <mr_Henk> dobey: for what it is worth; whatever I do I get "invalid signature" in either way possible. Leaving this now. I'm not certain if this is Touch or something else causing this.