| === daftykins is now known as hateball | ||
| === hateball is now known as daftykins | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:31 |
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| diddledan | morning | 09:45 |
| brobostigon | morning diddledan | 09:52 |
| ndf | directhex: that qnap QvPC thing is pretty awesome... | 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 13:13 |
| ndf | ahoy, ahoy! | 13:28 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: hi | 13:29 |
| sebsebseb | anyone buy the Ubuntu tablet here? | 13:29 |
| sebsebseb | I guess popey did but anyone else | 13:29 |
| popey | i didnt | 13:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | ...yet... :-) | 13:38 |
| popey | :) | 13:40 |
| popey | I just got given another bq e4.5 | 13:41 |
| popey | got 4 of them now | 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | popey: you got given by whom? | 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | popey: also whta'st the differece really between the bq global and worldwide stores that's a bit confussing | 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | oh e4.5 the first one yeah, not the HD | 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | popey: yeah the 4.5 is the rejcted phone now so :d | 13:50 |
| ndf | you running any of them on android? | 13:51 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: I doubt he would | 13:52 |
| sebsebseb | popey: oh yeah that was a great Linux VOice interview :d | 13:52 |
| sebsebseb | where it als o said you don't like Android much | 13:52 |
| ndf | I quite like Marshmallow | 13:52 |
| ndf | I got me a Nexus 6P (the new huawei one) | 13:52 |
| ndf | sexy beast | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | Android is a bit uh well the second you start installing apps | 13:53 |
| ndf | not mine | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | suddenly get adverts all over the phone | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | and | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | also apps want access to pretty much evertyhing most of them | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | so much for privacy | 13:53 |
| ndf | not if you are sensible about what you install | 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | yes let's have access to your photo gallery etc | 13:53 |
| ndf | you can detect ad packages in each app and decide what you want to uninstall | 13:54 |
| ndf | and in marshmallow | 13:54 |
| ndf | you can restrict permissions | 13:54 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: can you, that must be new | 13:54 |
| sebsebseb | for add thing | 13:54 |
| ndf | and alow specific things for each app | 13:54 |
| sebsebseb | permissins I did read that in marshmellow could do something | 13:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but older Androids nope so | 13:54 |
| ndf | ...would you run Windows 3.1? | 13:54 |
| ndf | don't run old android. | 13:55 |
| sebsebseb | Android may have Linux in the background, but it also tighes people to Google hmm | 13:55 |
| ndf | not really | 13:55 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: would I run Windows 3.1 yep sometimes :d well via the stuff on arhcieve.org :) | 13:55 |
| ndf | lol | 13:55 |
| sebsebseb | you seen that | 13:55 |
| ndf | you don't have to use gmail and google calendar if you don't want to | 13:55 |
| sebsebseb | you can basically run Windows 3.1 now and lots of the old programs online now in a browser | 13:55 |
| sebsebseb | you can play the old solitare with the old decks, play around in the old paint, and much more | 13:56 |
| ndf | well for the same reason you don't like old android, I wouldn't bother with Win3x | 13:56 |
| ndf | lol | 13:56 |
| ndf | you get what I'm saying | 13:56 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: the onlien stuff is intersting | 13:56 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: for an actsaul install though same I woudn't bother with that either | 13:56 |
| ndf | ...so check | 13:57 |
| ndf | out | 13:57 |
| ndf | Marshmallow | 13:57 |
| ndf | lol sry didn't mean to press enter | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | need some kind of device to run that buy somethign unless | 13:57 |
| ndf | twice | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | unless | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | androix x86 maybe, oh right I got Remix OS anyay on that tablet nad Remix Mimin's based on that, so uhmm and good :) | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: Androdi is a bit well boring to now | 13:57 |
| ndf | you can run it in a vm if you don't want to shell out on a device | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: since Android is all over the place in the main streame | 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | in the main strmeae is only really two options proper ones, that's Iphone, and Android | 13:58 |
| sebsebseb | Windows phone sort of in some places, but hardly so nope | 13:58 |
| * sebsebseb has sit on the bus for example plenty of times now, hearing people getting a text on Android etc | 13:58 | |
| ndf | ? | 13:58 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: Android is boring | 13:58 |
| sebsebseb | or mostly | 13:59 |
| ndf | ...because you hear people receive a message? | 13:59 |
| ndf | eh!? | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | no | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | no | 13:59 |
| ndf | lol | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | just since it's got popualr last few years etc | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | it's boring | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | we need something new | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu? Jolla? Firefox uhmm right htey don't target phones anymore | 13:59 |
| ndf | lol so linux became popular a long time ago, why don't you leave here? | 13:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | there's still a _lot_ of dumbphones about | 13:59 |
| sebsebseb | an Open SUse phone I read something about yesteraddy beifuly or that was an April fools | 13:59 |
| ndf | aren't you bored of ubuntu and windows | 13:59 |
| ndf | get a mac pfff | 13:59 |
| ndf | lol | 13:59 |
| ndf | you're ridiculous | 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: for a desktop I am bored of Ubuntu sure | 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: but Unity 8 should come soon to desktop as well and Mir then things will get interesting ish again for Ubuntu | 14:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | but if i had a choice of os i'd probably at this stage want emacs os on a phone... :-) | 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | ndf: and I would normally run something else on computers distro wise | 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | for now | 14:00 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I care less about this stuff, so actsaully been running Ubuntu a bit longer than inteded on this lap top since... plus was going to re set everything up agian WIndows the whole lot, I just haven't done it yet | 14:01 |
| popey | thanks sebsebseb | 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | popey: the LInux voice thing you meant? | 14:01 |
| ndf | my poiunt was every reason you've given for disliking android is on older versions, I suggested to try Marshmallow and you don't want to check it out because 'oh, it's popular now' | 14:01 |
| popey | ya | 14:01 |
| popey | friend gave me the e4.5 | 14:02 |
| popey | rejected phone? | 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | popey: it seemed a bit long when just seeing htep ages, it was like four pages uh? but then when reading it, it was like, uhmm there could have been more :) having some more would have been good | 14:02 |
| popey | heh, appreciate that | 14:02 |
| popey | we chatted for about 3 hours | 14:02 |
| popey | he came over to my house to do the interview, chat and drink coffee | 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | popey: well there's the Meizu MX 4 for those who have that :), the BQ HD. 4.5 is the old first one. there's the Meizu Pro 5 to soon I guessa | 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | popey: yep seemed he had actsaully gone there going by the article | 14:03 |
| popey | so they say | 14:03 |
| popey | yeah, the photos are in my dining room :) | 14:03 |
| sebsebseb | oh right | 14:03 |
| * sebsebseb wonders why BQ has two stores aimed at the whole world or pretty much by the looksofit, but with confussing names global and worlwide. | 14:05 | |
| sebsebseb | what'st the diference? | 14:06 |
| popey | no idea | 14:06 |
| sebsebseb | popey: Isee the FHD came back in stock | 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | popey: if it's still available like that onThursday I amintending onbuying | 14:07 |
| sebsebseb | I think certainpeople willget disappaointed with those tablets or at first though | 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | Oh I want to run this and that native Ubuntu app,but oh can't just do it,got toput inread write mode? | 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | read write mood I assume would belike runining root for everything in a normal distro? | 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | hence why the security updates the over the air updats don't install to, if I read omg ubuntu right | 14:09 |
| popey | the ota updates are a readonly image | 14:09 |
| popey | making your device rw just means you switch off the ro flag | 14:09 |
| popey | so you can fiddle with files or use apt | 14:09 |
| sebsebseb | will do the over the air updates still install then? | 14:10 |
| popey | yes | 14:10 |
| popey | but you may lose your changes | 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | oh changes when updating? | 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | itw ill wipe them out? | 14:10 |
| popey | well, you get a new root filesystem | 14:10 |
| popey | maybe | 14:10 |
| popey | depends what you do | 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | not even sure how to put it in read write mode right n ow, but I guess via terminal or something | 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | Iguess there will be some articles about that soon, once people actasully get those tables | 14:11 |
| popey | there's a command for it | 14:11 |
| popey | its already well documented | 14:11 |
| popey | no different than the phone | 14:11 |
| popey | (It's the same software) | 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | oh right ok | 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | but yes it's the convergence that people want to playw ith a lot | 14:11 |
| sebsebseb | running standard desktop programs on there | 14:11 |
| popey | not sure that needs read-write mode | 14:12 |
| popey | we'll see | 14:12 |
| sebsebseb | maybe omg ubuntu was wrong then | 14:12 |
| sebsebseb | but I Think most of the info they got was done via remours etc for tablet | 14:12 |
| popey | well, i think the info they published was based on the unreleased images | 14:13 |
| popey | it's not final yet | 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | unreleased images? | 14:13 |
| popey | yes, non-stable ones | 14:13 |
| popey | not final | 14:13 |
| sebsebseb | oh the dev stuff yeah | 14:14 |
| * sebsebseb waits for Jolla re fund as well :d been about three weekks already after saying yes re fund | 14:14 | |
| popey | oh, you're not getting a tablet? Shame | 14:14 |
| sebsebseb | indeed I am not one of the lucky ones in that sense, but what I have worked out is this :d | 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | my Jolla phone that I bought on the | 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | campagin for the tablet, that's going to basically become free once I get re funded | 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | yep I am getting re funded for that as well :) maybe I paid a little shipping orsomething, but yep it's basically going to bedcome free as well | 14:15 |
| sebsebseb | popey: so I am getting about 200 pounds in the first lot of re fund, and then about 200 pounds again in the second, but myJolla phone basicaly becomes free as well as I was saying which is kind of nice really | 14:16 |
| sebsebseb | popey: I think the tablets aren't going to be that supported now anyway, well ther will be softtware updadates for Jolla | 14:18 |
| popey | what are jolla doing now then? | 14:18 |
| popey | if they're not making hardware and not supporting their software? | 14:18 |
| sebsebseb | they are supproign there OS | 14:18 |
| sebsebseb | they are trying to refund those who are going to get re funded | 14:19 |
| sebsebseb | and trying to get deals else where with hardware manufactures to it seems | 14:19 |
| sebsebseb | to bring the OS to other hardware | 14:19 |
| popey | oh | 14:19 |
| sebsebseb | popey: I am about to have something interesting sent to me, that I crowd funded last year though :) | 14:19 |
| popey | :) | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | popey oh what was that? | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | Arduboy | 14:21 |
| popey | Hah, I ordered one too :) | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | I orederd five :d | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | one of each colour yep | 14:21 |
| popey | ! | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | plus I got two of the Tetris cards pre orderd that | 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | seems having a few has turend out to be a good idea for Arduboy since they can only acstaully run one game at once | 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | and that going by a video I saw, putting on a differnet game can be a little tricky | 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | popey: heh ! was in shock? | 14:23 |
| sebsebseb | plus having a few makes it easier to show certian people, if bother to do that :d | 14:24 |
| popey | have you seen the little arduboy rpg? | 14:26 |
| popey | Arduventure | 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | one of the games? | 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | not really looked properly at the games yet, since not got a Arduboy yet, but when I got them | 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | yep I will look properly at games for them | 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | popey: how do you keep up with what's being corwd funded? | 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | or you just look every now and again | 14:28 |
| popey | mostly via what people post on twitter / G+ | 14:29 |
| popey | or reddit | 14:29 |
| popey | now and then i look at "staff picks" or something | 14:29 |
| popey | i follow a lot of people on twitter though so see a lot that way | 14:29 |
| sebsebseb | ah right I see yeah | 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | popey: well that nxdock is nearly funded | 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | I think that's going to happen | 14:30 |
| popey | blimey | 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | why is that your response? | 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | I think it will be useful for remix mini etc | 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | rassbery pi etc | 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | but yes it has a bad resolution or so you think so you woudn't buy I know :d | 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | popey: going to crowd fund it later :d it's only like 84 pounds 119 is about 84 pounds | 14:32 |
| sebsebseb | 119 dollars is about 84 pounds | 14:32 |
| sebsebseb | they been really good at replying to most comments | 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | not many acstaul project updates, but lots of replies in the comments yep | 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | popey: so if that was a scam, tehy have done quite a bit to earn such a large amount of money heh | 14:34 |
| popey | its an interesting device | 14:35 |
| popey | just not something I'd use | 14:35 |
| sebsebseb | I can see a useage so :) | 14:37 |
| === hamitron_ is now known as hamitron | ||
| * penguin42 is still hmming about where to use to renew my .org registration - any suggestions? | 17:19 | |
| MartijnVdS | gandi.ent? | 17:20 |
| MartijnVdS | net | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | used them yourself? | 17:20 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah, I have all my domains there | 17:20 |
| popey | +1 vote for gandi | 17:22 |
| diddledan | 'ave a ganda @ gandi | 17:22 |
| penguin42 | nominate.com want 19.20 inc for 1 year which is exhorbitant, gandi are 13.64 inc for one year | 17:24 |
| diddledan | is that a pun on nominet? | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Possibly; they've been around for a long time | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | how does Gandi do whois security - do they automatically hide your details? | 17:26 |
| diddledan | probably opt-in | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | there's a flag for it | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | they also do two-factor authentication, with TOTP | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | ah yes, they do a thing to hide it https://www.gandi.net/domain/whois/ | 17:29 |
| directhex | 2T down, 1 to go... | 17:43 |
| directhex | and a *second* failed disk in the new array @_@ | 17:43 |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers my last seagate 3tb drive. i had just filled it up from all the drives scattered around the house when it slowed down to speeds slower than serial transfers... | 17:45 | |
| penguin42 | as good as low power flourescent bulbs then? | 17:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think my spectrum transferred to tape faster... | 17:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | though it's hard to find an audio cassette to hold 3tb of data to compare... :-P | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: And if there was one it would get to 2.9tb before scrunching up | 17:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | not a problem i have a pencil | 17:53 |
| penguin42 | biros are better | 17:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | i don't think i ever used a biro... | 17:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | my hand writing was terrible _before_ i learned to program computers so my mother would not allow me to use biros | 17:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | the extra friction from pencil and fountain pens made my hand writing more legible | 17:56 |
| foobarry | got my star wars stuff out today | 20:02 |
| foobarry | https://goo.gl/photos/As5gmKgsPhC8UAmD7 | 20:02 |
| foobarry | https://goo.gl/photos/AhV9u5w8rbRb2nx28 | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | aren't the originals with boxes supposed to be worth something these days? | 20:04 |
| foobarry | the last 17 ROTJ figures are pretty valuable | 20:06 |
| foobarry | the xwing has a sticker sheet of unused stickers | 20:06 |
| foobarry | the box is a bit damaged | 20:06 |
| foobarry | i have a few last 17 | 20:07 |
| foobarry | a wing pilot, yak face, etc. not on card but with guns in mint codnition | 20:07 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: surely all transfers to SATA or SAS disks are de facto slower than or equal to the speed of serial transfers, no? | 21:19 |
| penguin42 | hmm, Manchester will be holding the International Clouds & Precipitation conference | 22:49 |
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