[05:16] <Kilos> cremora minora
[05:21] <dlPhreak> Mawnin
[07:46] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[09:36] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes Cryterion Na3iL 
[09:38] <inetpro> goeie more almal
[09:38] <Kilos> more inetpro 
[10:07] <Kilos> inetpro talk here man then i hear you if im close
[10:07] <inetpro> haha
[10:08] <Kilos> and tab complete works here
[10:09] <Kilos> that thing is nice but im still an irc user by heart
[10:19] <superfly> You need to use @ in mattermost then the tab completion works 
[10:46] <Wolfeyes> afternoon everyone
[10:50] <Kilos> hi boy
[10:57] <kulelu88> hey tumbleweed , do you use libvirt? 
[10:59] <superfly> https://www.google.com/chromebook/chrome-chromebook/
[11:10] <kulelu88> superfly: I can't seem to expose my librvirt container to my network for some reason
[11:10] <superfly> kulelu88: usually you bind a port on the host machine to a port on the container
[11:11] <superfly> (at least that's what you do with docker's LXC implementation, before they veered away from LXC)
[11:28] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:29] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[11:42] <kulelu88> superfly: I used these debian instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/LibVirtDefaultNetwork
[11:42] <kulelu88> I'm not sure if I am missing something in the middle
[12:10] <superfly> kulelu88: you're not creating an externally accessible network interface
[12:10] <kulelu88> so it's still internal, just using a localized network IP?
[12:12] <superfly> yes, you're just setting up your networking yourself, from what I can tell
[12:12] <superfly> kulelu88: there's one place where you actually specify the IP range to be handed out via DHCP
[12:13] <kulelu88> shit, this was much easier with docker IIRC
[12:18] <superfly> kulelu88: well, you can still route traffic, it's just not quite as simple. you have to tell the host where to route traffic for the internal network
[12:19] <kulelu88> superfly: If I am understanding correctly, my libvirt setup has just assigned a network IP to my container that is still only accessible to my workstation. I need to still route it from my workstation to the network itself?
[12:22] <superfly> kulelu88: no, other way round. your container probably has access to the host's network, but your host's network can't route traffic to the VLAN because it doesn't have a rule to do so
[12:23] <superfly> (as far as I understand what I'm reading)
[12:23] <kulelu88> aah. I wonder if I need to do something within my router settings
[12:23] <superfly> kulelu88: I think you want this: https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge
[12:23] <kulelu88> i'm going to try logging in to see if the router has the IP in existence
[12:25]  * superfly needs to go AFK for a while
[12:25] <kulelu88> thanks superfly !
[13:35] <magespawn> home time, chat later
[15:23] <inetpro> Kilos: https://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu/pl/a8orqnotz7fkdmmeaugyrywq4o
[15:24] <Kilos> lemme see inetpro 
[15:29] <Kilos> inetpro ?
[16:07] <Kilos> sigh
[16:09] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[16:09]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:09] <Kilos> inetpro coffee time
[16:09] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[16:09] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto
[16:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[16:14] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[16:14] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:29] <magespawn> good evening
[16:41] <inetpro> welcome back magespawn
[16:41] <inetpro> magespawn: seen our latest conversation on mattermost yet?
[16:58] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos!
[17:00] <Wolfeyes> hey pavlushka
[17:00] <Kilos> ho pavlushka 
[17:00] <pavlushka> Hi everyone!!!
[17:00] <pavlushka> hi Wolfeyes !
[17:00] <pavlushka> hello Kilos l!
[17:01] <pavlushka> How are you guys???
[17:01] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[17:01] <pavlushka> ok.
[17:04] <Wolfeyes> so so ....lol..... battling to get my car right...
[18:31] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[18:31] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[18:32] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:51] <magespawn> hi all
[18:52] <magespawn> no inetpro, i'll check now
[18:53] <Wolfeyes> hey magespawn
[18:55] <pavlushka> hi magespawn 
[18:55] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[19:04] <magespawn> right up to speed inetpro 
[19:05] <inetpro> magespawn: haha... :-)
[19:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:06] <inetpro> kulelu88: did you get it going?
[20:08] <kulelu88> inetpro: yeah, I settled for port-forwarding. Some kind soul explained to my noob mind about how docker does it, and then I understood more clearly (used the same port-forwarding for my LXC)
[20:08] <inetpro> ok
[20:16] <kulelu88> with that being said, you have any recommendations for a light-weight server? int
[20:16] <kulelu88> inetpro: 
[20:16]  * inetpro still learning about the new LXD
[20:17] <inetpro> kulelu88: or what do you mean with your question?
[20:17] <kulelu88> I'm trying to render a few static files and pythons built-in server is absolute shit
[20:18] <inetpro> have you seen, "The LXD 2.0 Story"?
[20:18] <inetpro> http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/14/the-lxd-2-0-story-prologue/
[20:19] <inetpro> it's still a work in progress but looks promising
[20:20] <kulelu88> what is the diff between LXD and LXC?
[20:20] <inetpro> see https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/
[20:21] <inetpro> or http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/lxd
[20:22] <kulelu88> interesting. so it's a manager
[20:22] <kulelu88> or rewrite of the vanity tools
[20:23] <inetpro> certainly there to make life a huge lot easier
[20:25] <inetpro> LXD crushes KVM in density and speed https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/18/lxd-crushes-kvm-in-density-and-speed/
[20:28] <superfly> kulelu88: just static files? nginx
[20:28] <superfly> kulelu88: or lighttpd
[20:38] <kulelu88> superfly: it is basically 3 files
[21:04] <magespawn> inetpro how do you find out how much time is left on the free AWS?
[21:04] <inetpro> magespawn: I don't know
[21:06] <magespawn> the website is less than clear, all that i can find is 12 months after sign up
[21:07]  * magespawn goes to bug support
[21:08] <magespawn> inetpro: have you shut yours down?
[21:09] <inetpro> not yet... got myself ready to pay one or two months
[21:10] <inetpro> before I shut it down
[21:18] <magespawn> i see there is a message on my dashboard saying i am eligible for the free tier, not too sure why they would be telling me that
[21:18] <magespawn> maybe it just continues until you decide to either close it or upgrade
[21:18] <magespawn> that would benice
[21:18] <magespawn> be nice too
[21:24] <inetpro> magespawn: as long as we don't get a backdated bill a few months down the line
[21:25] <kulelu88> I doubt AWS would give anything away for free beyond 12 months
[21:26] <inetpro> magespawn: perhaps time to look at affordable localised VPS options again
[21:29] <superfly> inetpro: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[21:29] <superfly> AAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[21:29] <superfly> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[21:29] <superfly> "affordable localised VPS options"
[21:29] <superfly> what a great joke
[21:29] <inetpro> ok, ok superfly,,, I get the point
[21:30] <inetpro> :-)
[21:30] <superfly> Love your optimism :-D
[21:30] <inetpro> sad reality I guess
[21:32] <magespawn> i like this http://www.clickworks.co.za/vps-hosting/ about right for me
[21:33] <inetpro> superfly: that's not bad?
[21:35] <kulelu88> I bet the virtualization used there is the crappy 1 where the servers are overloaded
[21:35] <kulelu88> if it's not KVM, it's not worth it
[21:35] <superfly> inetpro: firstly, they use Xen, which is not bad, but KVM is better
[21:36] <superfly> inetpro: secondly, on my Linode VPS I have 3TB of bandwidth monthly 
[21:36] <inetpro> true, thanks for checking that
[21:36] <superfly> anyway, I need to get to bed
[21:36] <magespawn> good night superfly 
[21:36] <superfly> (and ubuntu repos don't contribute to that)
[21:36] <kulelu88> night
[21:37] <inetpro> good night everyone
[21:38] <magespawn> i like the 50GB drive space
[21:38] <magespawn> but i see what you mean superfly, linode is also nice
[21:40] <magespawn> i was also looking at these guys http://www.elitehost.co.za/,but ironically the website is offline
[22:01] <magespawn> definately bed time,good night all