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sakrecoerOvenWerks: mark it for 16.10 blueprint!09:46
sakrecoerlooks good! made we want to try it. OvenWerks how is it on ressources? looks a bit like gnome..09:52
zequenceI think cairo dock uses openGL and needs 3D acceleration in order to work10:31
zequenceAll this to fix qjackctl?10:31
zequenceIsn't that like cirkling the sun to get to the moon?10:32
zequenceWe need to push for the qt4 fix for qjackctl. That's the only thing that works10:32
zequenceLet's be reasonable10:33
zequenceBesides, the whole world is not using UBuntu Studio with qjackctl10:33
zequenceIt needs to work everywhere10:33
zequenceOvenWerks: If an app supports indicators, that is used before systray10:40
zequenceUnfortunately, qjackctl has very poor support for indicators10:40
zequenceBut, it is there10:41
zequenceAnd, that is where the problem is, completely10:41
zequenceLooking at the bug report, I'm sure Dmitry will exhaust other possibilities first, and then use qt410:52
zequenceBug 154632810:52
ubottubug 1546328 in qjackctl (Ubuntu) "Systray option does not work." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154632810:52
sakrecoerOvenWerks: would this be something for multidispla spanned? it's supposed to be used as a tile...12:00
sakrecoerhttp://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/1604tile-sakrecoer.png12:00
sakrecoeri'm trying a few more settings where it's alla bit softer...12:00
cfhowlettmy eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:01
cfhowlett:)12:01
sakrecoerhaha :) are they burning from the funky colors or soothed by it, cfhowlett ?12:01
cfhowlettPerhaps with a softer focus but ... no logo?12:02
sakrecoeri tried with logo, but it gets very "luis vuitton"-ish from the repetitino12:02
sakrecoerrepetition12:03
sakrecoerits tile, so it repeats all over the screen12:03
OvenWerksDon't take me too seriously on the cairo-dock thing, That is exactly oposite to DE agnostic, it is making our own DE in effect.12:54
OvenWerkszequence: I agree that qjackctl's qt5 indicator implementation is just bad. Rui seems to be trying to make an indicator work like a systray item...12:55
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I also think that backdrop is "too much".12:57
zequenceOvenWerks: Ok. Well, we have discussed a multimedia panel in the past, and perhaps Cairo dock could be an alternative for that?12:57
zequenceI haven't used it for many years myself12:58
OvenWerksThe colours are fine, but the shapes are too busy for me. I like a large shape that fills the screen... then if it spans well, it unifies the dual monitors without repeating itself.13:00
OvenWerkszequence: really cairo-dock is almost like unity's dock in many ways (what I remember of it) just horizontal out of the box rather than vertical13:02
zequenceOvenWerks: Think it's a lot more customizable though13:02
OvenWerksnow that unity has matured... making Studio on top of it almost sounds reasonable.13:03
zequenceThat said, not sure how moddable the Unity dock is13:03
OvenWerkszequence: that may be true, I did not spend much time with it... and really we don't have that time either13:03
zequenceYeah, it does. But, I would then want to be able to offer the user other choices as well13:03
zequenceNo, we are way past making any changes at this point13:04
zequenceOnly artwork and bug fixes now13:04
OvenWerkszequence: this cycle for sure, but even down the road, I think there are better things to focus on.13:04
OvenWerksit is easy to get side tracked with shiny things. I was mainly trying different things to see if qjackctl worked any better on them... but it is just broken.13:06
zequenceYeah13:06
OvenWerksreally, xfce's ability to save a number of different panel setups would be something a good way of dealing with workflows, but again it uses time that could go somewhere else and moves away from our goal.13:11

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