[09:46] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: mark it for 16.10 blueprint!
[09:52] <sakrecoer> looks good! made we want to try it. OvenWerks how is it on ressources? looks a bit like gnome..
[10:31] <zequence> I think cairo dock uses openGL and needs 3D acceleration in order to work
[10:31] <zequence> All this to fix qjackctl?
[10:32] <zequence> Isn't that like cirkling the sun to get to the moon?
[10:32] <zequence> We need to push for the qt4 fix for qjackctl. That's the only thing that works
[10:33] <zequence> Let's be reasonable
[10:33] <zequence> Besides, the whole world is not using UBuntu Studio with qjackctl
[10:33] <zequence> It needs to work everywhere
[10:40] <zequence> OvenWerks: If an app supports indicators, that is used before systray
[10:40] <zequence> Unfortunately, qjackctl has very poor support for indicators
[10:41] <zequence> But, it is there
[10:41] <zequence> And, that is where the problem is, completely
[10:52] <zequence> Looking at the bug report, I'm sure Dmitry will exhaust other possibilities first, and then use qt4
[10:52] <zequence> Bug 1546328
[12:00] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: would this be something for multidispla spanned? it's supposed to be used as a tile...
[12:00] <sakrecoer> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/1604tile-sakrecoer.png
[12:00] <sakrecoer> i'm trying a few more settings where it's alla bit softer...
[12:01] <cfhowlett> my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:01] <cfhowlett> :)
[12:01] <sakrecoer> haha :) are they burning from the funky colors or soothed by it, cfhowlett ?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Perhaps with a softer focus but ... no logo?
[12:02] <sakrecoer> i tried with logo, but it gets very "luis vuitton"-ish from the repetitino
[12:03] <sakrecoer> repetition
[12:03] <sakrecoer> its tile, so it repeats all over the screen
[12:54] <OvenWerks> Don't take me too seriously on the cairo-dock thing, That is exactly oposite to DE agnostic, it is making our own DE in effect.
[12:55] <OvenWerks> zequence: I agree that qjackctl's qt5 indicator implementation is just bad. Rui seems to be trying to make an indicator work like a systray item...
[12:57] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I also think that backdrop is "too much".
[12:57] <zequence> OvenWerks: Ok. Well, we have discussed a multimedia panel in the past, and perhaps Cairo dock could be an alternative for that?
[12:58] <zequence> I haven't used it for many years myself
[13:00] <OvenWerks> The colours are fine, but the shapes are too busy for me. I like a large shape that fills the screen... then if it spans well, it unifies the dual monitors without repeating itself.
[13:02] <OvenWerks> zequence: really cairo-dock is almost like unity's dock in many ways (what I remember of it) just horizontal out of the box rather than vertical
[13:02] <zequence> OvenWerks: Think it's a lot more customizable though
[13:03] <OvenWerks> now that unity has matured... making Studio on top of it almost sounds reasonable.
[13:03] <zequence> That said, not sure how moddable the Unity dock is
[13:03] <OvenWerks> zequence: that may be true, I did not spend much time with it... and really we don't have that time either
[13:03] <zequence> Yeah, it does. But, I would then want to be able to offer the user other choices as well
[13:04] <zequence> No, we are way past making any changes at this point
[13:04] <zequence> Only artwork and bug fixes now
[13:04] <OvenWerks> zequence: this cycle for sure, but even down the road, I think there are better things to focus on.
[13:06] <OvenWerks> it is easy to get side tracked with shiny things. I was mainly trying different things to see if qjackctl worked any better on them... but it is just broken.
[13:06] <zequence> Yeah
[13:11] <OvenWerks> really, xfce's ability to save a number of different panel setups would be something a good way of dealing with workflows, but again it uses time that could go somewhere else and moves away from our goal.