| flocculant | sigh - no - I'd take this, but not for *all* button | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| flocculant | or | 00:01 |
| flocculant | neutral :p | 00:01 |
| knome | hmm? | 00:01 |
| flocculant | there's more than 1 for sure | 00:07 |
| knome | than one what? :) | 00:07 |
| pleia2 | been socialmediaed | 00:20 |
| knome | pleia2, ta | 00:20 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: woot! | 00:26 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: yea - pleased there :) | 00:28 |
| flocculant | looking pretty good now :) | 00:29 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: so just some 'really small subsubsubscript' menulibre things I think | 00:32 |
| flocculant | one at least I think can be 'opinion' d :) | 00:33 |
| flocculant | bug 1513590 - pretty sure we said that wasn't a bug ? | 00:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1513590 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "unable to delete items in menulibre" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513590 | 00:33 |
| flocculant | bug 1515184 - can't confirm now - perhaps close it | 00:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1515184 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "Crash when selecting a category in a new entry" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515184 | 00:34 |
| flocculant | then thunar | 00:35 |
| flocculant | if we still get all these bugs there - should we start looking elsewhere when we move to 16.10? | 00:35 |
| flocculant | and how many are really thunar and not elsewhere like gvfs etc? | 00:36 |
| flocculant | stuff to think about | 00:36 |
| flocculant | if xubuntu is about giving people xfce and tools - when is one as broken as thunar is off and on - perhaps we should think outside the box here | 00:41 |
| flocculant | until somethinks about nautilus ofc ... | 00:42 |
| flocculant | then thunar \o/ | 00:42 |
| * knome thinks outside the box and goes to bed | 00:43 | |
| knome | good night everybody and catch you later :) | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: yeah, thunar has been not so great for a while now... not sure if the same issues are seen in pcmanfm, and probably not in caj | 00:44 |
| bluesabre | a | 00:44 |
| flocculant | well | 00:45 |
| flocculant | with pcmanfam I don't get the usb3issue iirc | 00:46 |
| flocculant | I shouldn't have to really quickly yank the cable :) | 00:46 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:47 |
| bluesabre | it would be really swell if we could get more code contributors to xfce to fix these things :) | 00:48 |
| flocculant | well | 00:48 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: sigh .... I know ;) | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | but yes, we are getting to the point that we should consider alternatives | 00:49 |
| flocculant | asmuch as I would love to be able to say "omg I CAN fix this' I can't ... | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | same here | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | unfortunately | 00:50 |
| flocculant | so if xfce can't - we are xubuntu not xfce | 00:50 |
| flocculant | and do that whole - this is Xubuntu - thing | 00:51 |
| bluesabre | yup, agreed | 00:51 |
| flocculant | a whole cycle to think those things :) | 00:51 |
| bluesabre | there's lots of options out there now, so this is something we should look into for 16.10 | 00:52 |
| flocculant | for sure | 00:52 |
| flocculant | I'd really like for team to look outside now - I'd rather test foo now :p | 00:53 |
| flocculant | !team | up dudes | 00:53 |
| ubottu | up dudes: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 00:53 |
| bluesabre | do we need a meeting soon so we can decide how to vote? | 00:54 |
| bluesabre | it's been... a contentious topic | 00:54 |
| * Unit193 looked outside, too dark to see things. | 00:55 | |
| Unit193 | I have pcmanfm installed, but as I don't use the filemanager all that much thunar does pretty well for me. | 00:55 |
| bluesabre | I use thunar, it crashes, I restart and remember to rename things from a terminal | 00:56 |
| Unit193 | Just played around with it for a bit, finally got one. | 01:00 |
| Unit193 | I'm guessing we already had a good stacktrace though? | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | good stacktrace probably, but no good debuggers to figure out how to fix it | 01:02 |
| bluesabre | I'm ok at coding, terrible at debug | 01:02 |
| Unit193 | thunar crashed with SIGSEGV in __GI___libc_free() | 01:03 |
| Unit193 | https://paste.unit193.net/?ecacb0305f88cf72#vK6jNpzOl7F3I16cDi7luRjyZ7E/EV1mhnVCpShQwp8= ? :D | 01:05 |
| flocculant | night peeps | 01:06 |
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| bluesabre | https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-10/26/6/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-14836-1414320930-8.jpg | 01:06 |
| bluesabre | night flocculant | 01:06 |
| Unit193 | Mhmmmm! :D | 01:07 |
| Unit193 | Soo, do we have anyone on thunar over in Xfceland? | 01:07 |
| bluesabre | nope, not really | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | for me, it'd probably be easier to port caja/nemo to xfce than fix thunar | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | ...ali? | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | could be a good person to hand it to | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | sidi?! ;P | 01:10 |
| bluesabre | he can sandbox it, but that would make it less valuable | 01:11 |
| bluesabre | >.> | 01:11 |
| Unit193 | And http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=029012f4c39d9d3d9ae617491a69f76f54a4192f didn't even help (or all cases?) | 01:14 |
| Unit193 | Think it's worth it to at least push that? | 01:15 |
| bluesabre | could add a daily thunar to https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and run with it | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | Meh. | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | Also, this does fix some bugs. :3 | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Select a couple files → Ctrl+x → navigate to somewhere → ctrl+v thunar should crash. Update from PPA, repeat. | 01:19 |
| bluesabre | it's always hit and miss for me... I can usually go a few copy+pastes/renames before it dies on me | 01:22 |
| Unit193 | Using the method I outlined seemed to hit it more. Do you have the PPA one? | 01:24 |
| Unit193 | Should we push that, and hope it makes some of them go away (like it seems to)? | 01:25 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I'll check it out, but yeah, I think it'd be good to include | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | OK, I'll wait your order. | 01:41 |
| bluesabre | :) | 03:11 |
| bluesabre | now I have to actually do it in reasonable time | 03:12 |
| bluesabre | I'll do that in the morning | 03:12 |
| Unit193 | This way flocculant can NACK it too. | 03:12 |
| bluesabre | :) | 03:13 |
| bluesabre | nighty all | 03:13 |
| Unit193 | G'nighty. | 03:14 |
| knome | added featherlight popups for the submissions in the admin, so it's now easier and faster to get to see a preview | 09:48 |
| Unit193 | That's actually a lot of submissions... | 09:53 |
| knome | quite, yeah | 09:57 |
| knome | get voting :) | 09:58 |
| knome | at the least, we need to make sure the team actually votes before the end of week | 09:58 |
| knome | if we want to involve the community in a way or another, then we should get that done even faster | 09:59 |
| Unit193 | "Untitled"? And, on it then. | 10:02 |
| knome | yeah, there are many untitled submissions | 10:02 |
| knome | it all actually goes relatively smoowth with this interface | 10:04 |
| knome | -w | 10:04 |
| knome | i didn't time my voting, but it definitely didn't feel like too long | 10:04 |
| knome | and now it should be even faster since you have the featherlight popups :) | 10:05 |
| knome | (i used some time to check if photos were blurry) | 10:05 |
| Unit193 | So, this voting to let them in or chose winners? | 10:06 |
| knome | i don't know; either way, i think the team needs to pick a shortlist | 10:06 |
| knome | eg. if the community votes, it can't be 50 options | 10:06 |
| knome | so, either voting for things people can vote on, or if we don't end up with community voting, then it's for inclusion | 10:07 |
| knome | i voted up anything i would be okay being included | 10:07 |
| knome | eg. more than 6 | 10:07 |
| knome | that'd make it 11 | 10:09 |
| Unit193 | Why are there planes strafing? | 10:12 |
| knome | how would i know? :) | 10:13 |
| knome | !team | wallpaper contest voting is open; get your votes in now! | 10:13 |
| ubottu | wallpaper contest voting is open; get your votes in now!: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 10:13 |
| Unit193 | I have come to the conclusion I don't use normal wallpapers. Also, I like that I can review and change my choices later, and really should. | 10:14 |
| knome | what is "normal" anyway... | 10:14 |
| knome | from what i've seen, many people like to use a photo they are emotionally connecting with, or some kind of mountainy view, or then just some solid color | 10:16 |
| knome | mountainy view being something to dream of | 10:16 |
| knome | could be a photo of a quiet beach somewhere too | 10:16 |
| knome | you get the gist | 10:17 |
| knome | ok, bbl | 11:31 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: If I ping you, you won't get it will you? | 13:31 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: we could make an offline forwarding bot | 14:39 |
| bluesabre | every time there is a ping to an offline person, they get an email :D | 14:39 |
| Unit193 | Howdy, bluesabre. | 14:39 |
| bluesabre | hi Unit193 | 14:40 |
| petrovich | Hi there | 15:23 |
| petrovich | Is it only me, or no one cannot upgrade his 16.04 ubuntu? | 15:23 |
| KenstaFoo | Hello | 18:21 |
| knome | hello | 18:21 |
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