[00:01] <flocculant> sigh - no - I'd take this, but not for *all* button
[00:01] <flocculant> or
[00:01] <flocculant> neutral :p
[00:01] <knome> hmm?
[00:07] <flocculant> there's more than 1 for sure
[00:07] <knome> than one what? :)
[00:20] <pleia2> been socialmediaed
[00:20] <knome> pleia2, ta
[00:26] <bluesabre> flocculant: woot!
[00:28] <flocculant> bluesabre: yea - pleased there :)
[00:29] <flocculant> looking pretty good now :)
[00:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: so just some 'really small subsubsubscript' menulibre things I think 
[00:33] <flocculant> one at least I think can be 'opinion' d :)
[00:33] <flocculant> bug 1513590 - pretty sure we said that wasn't a bug ?
[00:34] <flocculant> bug 1515184 - can't confirm now - perhaps close it 
[00:35] <flocculant> then thunar
[00:35] <flocculant> if we still get all these bugs there - should we start looking elsewhere when we move to 16.10? 
[00:36] <flocculant> and how many are really thunar and not elsewhere like gvfs etc? 
[00:36] <flocculant> stuff to think about
[00:41] <flocculant> if xubuntu is about giving people xfce and tools - when is one as broken as thunar is off and on - perhaps we should think outside the box here
[00:42] <flocculant> until somethinks about nautilus ofc ... 
[00:42] <flocculant> then thunar \o/ 
[00:43]  * knome thinks outside the box and goes to bed
[00:43] <knome> good night everybody and catch you later :)
[00:44] <bluesabre> flocculant: yeah, thunar has been not so great for a while now... not sure if the same issues are seen in pcmanfm, and probably not in caj
[00:44] <bluesabre> a
[00:45] <flocculant> well
[00:46] <flocculant> with pcmanfam I don't get the usb3issue iirc
[00:46] <flocculant> I shouldn't have to really quickly yank the cable :) 
[00:47] <bluesabre> :D
[00:48] <bluesabre> it would be really swell if we could get more code contributors to xfce to fix these things :)
[00:48] <flocculant> well
[00:49] <flocculant> bluesabre: sigh .... I know ;)
[00:49] <bluesabre> but yes, we are getting to the point that we should consider alternatives
[00:50] <flocculant> asmuch as I would love to be able to say "omg I CAN fix this' I can't ... 
[00:50] <bluesabre> same here
[00:50] <bluesabre> unfortunately
[00:50] <flocculant> so if xfce  can't - we are xubuntu not xfce
[00:51] <flocculant> and do that whole - this is Xubuntu - thing
[00:51] <bluesabre> yup, agreed
[00:51] <flocculant> a whole cycle to think those things :)
[00:52] <bluesabre> there's lots of options out there now, so this is something we should look into for 16.10
[00:52] <flocculant> for sure
[00:53] <flocculant> I'd really like for team to look outside now - I'd rather test foo now :p
[00:53] <flocculant> !team | up dudes
[00:54] <bluesabre> do we need a meeting soon so we can decide how to vote?
[00:54] <bluesabre> it's been... a contentious topic
[00:55]  * Unit193 looked outside, too dark to see things.
[00:55] <Unit193> I have pcmanfm installed, but as I don't use the filemanager all that much thunar does pretty well for me.
[00:56] <bluesabre> I use thunar, it crashes, I restart and remember to rename things from a terminal
[01:00] <Unit193> Just played around with it for a bit, finally got one.
[01:01] <Unit193> I'm guessing we already had a good stacktrace though?
[01:02] <bluesabre> good stacktrace probably, but no good debuggers to figure out how to fix it
[01:02] <bluesabre> I'm ok at coding, terrible at debug
[01:03] <Unit193> thunar crashed with SIGSEGV in __GI___libc_free()
[01:05] <Unit193> https://paste.unit193.net/?ecacb0305f88cf72#vK6jNpzOl7F3I16cDi7luRjyZ7E/EV1mhnVCpShQwp8= ? :D
[01:06] <flocculant> night peeps
[01:06] <bluesabre> https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-10/26/6/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-14836-1414320930-8.jpg
[01:06] <bluesabre> night flocculant
[01:07] <Unit193> Mhmmmm! :D
[01:07] <Unit193> Soo, do we have anyone on thunar over in Xfceland?
[01:09] <bluesabre> nope, not really
[01:10] <bluesabre> for me, it'd probably be easier to port caja/nemo to xfce than fix thunar
[01:10] <Unit193> ...ali?
[01:10] <bluesabre> could be a good person to hand it to
[01:10] <Unit193> sidi?! ;P
[01:11] <bluesabre> he can sandbox it, but that would make it less valuable
[01:11] <bluesabre> >.>
[01:14] <Unit193> And http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=029012f4c39d9d3d9ae617491a69f76f54a4192f didn't even help (or all cases?)
[01:15] <Unit193> Think it's worth it to at least push that?
[01:17] <bluesabre> could add a daily thunar to https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and run with it
[01:18] <Unit193> Meh.
[01:18] <Unit193> Also, this does fix some bugs. :3
[01:19] <Unit193> bluesabre: Select a couple files → Ctrl+x → navigate to somewhere → ctrl+v  thunar should crash.  Update from PPA, repeat.
[01:22] <bluesabre> it's always hit and miss for me... I can usually go a few copy+pastes/renames before it dies on me
[01:24] <Unit193> Using the method I outlined seemed to hit it more.  Do you have the PPA one?
[01:25] <Unit193> Should we push that, and hope it makes some of them go away (like it seems to)?
[01:25] <bluesabre> Unit193: I'll check it out, but yeah, I think it'd be good to include
[01:41] <Unit193> OK, I'll wait your order.
[03:11] <bluesabre> :)
[03:12] <bluesabre> now I have to actually do it in reasonable time
[03:12] <bluesabre> I'll do that in the morning
[03:12] <Unit193> This way flocculant can NACK it too.
[03:13] <bluesabre> :)
[03:13] <bluesabre> nighty all
[03:14] <Unit193> G'nighty.
[09:48] <knome> added featherlight popups for the submissions in the admin, so it's now easier and faster to get to see a preview
[09:53] <Unit193> That's actually a lot of submissions...
[09:57] <knome> quite, yeah
[09:58] <knome> get voting :)
[09:58] <knome> at the least, we need to make sure the team actually votes before the end of week
[09:59] <knome> if we want to involve the community in a way or another, then we should get that done even faster
[10:02] <Unit193> "Untitled"?  And, on it then.
[10:02] <knome> yeah, there are many untitled submissions
[10:04] <knome> it all actually goes relatively smoowth with this interface
[10:04] <knome> -w
[10:04] <knome> i didn't time my voting, but it definitely didn't feel like too long
[10:05] <knome> and now it should be even faster since you have the featherlight popups :)
[10:05] <knome> (i used some time to check if photos were blurry)
[10:06] <Unit193> So, this voting to let them in or chose winners?
[10:06] <knome> i don't know; either way, i think the team needs to pick a shortlist
[10:06] <knome> eg. if the community votes, it can't be 50 options
[10:07] <knome> so, either voting for things people can vote on, or if we don't end up with community voting, then it's for inclusion
[10:07] <knome> i voted up anything i would be okay being included
[10:07] <knome> eg. more than 6
[10:09] <knome> that'd make it 11
[10:12] <Unit193> Why are there planes strafing?
[10:13] <knome> how would i know? :)
[10:13] <knome> !team | wallpaper contest voting is open; get your votes in now!
[10:14] <Unit193> I have come to the conclusion I don't use normal wallpapers.  Also, I like that I can review and change my choices later, and really should.
[10:14] <knome> what is "normal" anyway...
[10:16] <knome> from what i've seen, many people like to use a photo they are emotionally connecting with, or some kind of mountainy view, or then just some solid color
[10:16] <knome> mountainy view being something to dream of
[10:16] <knome> could be a photo of a quiet beach somewhere too
[10:17] <knome> you get the gist
[11:31] <knome> ok, bbl
[13:31] <Unit193> flocculant: If I ping you, you won't get it will you?
[14:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: we could make an offline forwarding bot
[14:39] <bluesabre> every time there is a ping to an offline person, they get an email :D
[14:39] <Unit193> Howdy, bluesabre.
[14:40] <bluesabre> hi Unit193
[15:23] <petrovich> Hi there
[15:23] <petrovich> Is it only me, or no one cannot upgrade his 16.04 ubuntu?
[18:21] <KenstaFoo> Hello
[18:21] <knome> hello