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JennyBlueBirdHi! Is there any way I can kil/stop/disable the GUI programs or session startup scripts from overriding my mouse configuration in xorg.conf?10:10
JennyBlueBirdIt works as expected on the login screen, but I use mouse config settings ( speed, constant decelleration ) that I can't configure through the GUI , and it overrides it when I log in10:11
xubuntu74wHello! My Xubuntu 15.10 (all updates/upgrades applied) is taking a long time (100 seconds+) displaying the splash screen during boot. It wasn't always like this, but now it is... and I didn't install any weird program, but I used Boot Repair in a live USB. My hardware is a Dell Inspiron 14R 5421. Thanks!10:37
Unit193xubuntu74w: What's the output of  `sudo systemd-analyze blame` ?10:42
xubuntu74wjuniorelson4@juniorelson4-Inspiron-5421:~$ sudo systemd-analyze blame [sudo] password for juniorelson4:            8.429s dev-sda3.device           6.712s NetworkManager-wait-online.service           5.708s apparmor.service           4.161s gpu-manager.service           3.595s ufw.service           2.760s systemd-udevd.service           2.592s qemu-kvm.service           2.533s ModemManager.service           2.522s accounts-daem10:43
xubuntu74wger.service           1.405s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service           1.172s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service            845ms systemd-journald.service            813ms systemd-modules-load.service            758ms systemd-journal-flush.service            709ms avahi-daemon.service            660ms upower.service            625ms systemd-random-seed.service            550ms systemd-update-utmp.service            536ms systemd10:44
xubuntu74w477ms lm-sensors.service            405ms dev-mqueue.mount            405ms dev-hugepages.mount10:44
xubuntu74w8.429s dev-sda3.device           6.712s NetworkManager-wait-online.service           5.708s apparmor.service           4.161s gpu-manager.service           3.595s ufw.service           2.760s systemd-udevd.service           2.592s qemu-kvm.service           2.533s ModemManager.service           2.522s accounts-daemon.service           2.501s NetworkManager.service           1.405s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service           1.172s10:44
meridelHello !10:44
xubuntu74w845ms systemd-journald.service            813ms systemd-modules-load.service            758ms systemd-journal-flush.service            709ms avahi-daemon.service            660ms upower.service            625ms systemd-random-seed.service            550ms systemd-update-utmp.service            536ms systemd-udev-trigger.service10:44
xubuntu74w477ms lm-sensors.service            405ms dev-mqueue.mount            405ms dev-hugepages.mount            404ms systemd-setup-dgram-qlen.service            404ms sys-kernel-debug.mount            364ms grub-common.service            330ms networking.service            312ms binfmt-support.service            309ms colord.service            288ms kmod-static-nodes.service10:45
xubuntu74w288ms systemd-timesyncd.service            288ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service            287ms thermald.service            286ms console-setup.service            282ms irqbalance.service            262ms systemd-sysctl.service            260ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service            250ms polkitd.service10:45
knome!pastebin | xubuntu74w10:45
ubottuxubuntu74w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:45
meridelDoes anyone has an idea of why my fonts are messed up ? I tried to change options like Hinting and it's a bit better, but not perfect... can someone please tell me if there is a solution ?10:45
knomemeridel, define "messed up"?10:46
meridelOh yeah sorry10:46
meridelSo, some letters have the bad habit to disappear ^^10:46
xubuntu04wWell I couldn't post the entire output10:46
meridelWithout hinting, it is worse: white, black and invisible letters are mixed10:46
knome!pastebin | xubuntu04w10:46
ubottuxubuntu04w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:46
Unit193xubuntu04w: That looks fairly normal, so it looks like something else then.10:46
knomemeridel, which font are you using?10:46
meridelIt doesnt change anything when I change the font10:46
xubuntu04wHere we go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15586954/10:47
meridel(Droid Sans for now, tho. It's better with it.)10:47
meridel(By better I mean less invisible letters ^^)10:47
meridelThis is pretty weird10:48
knomemeridel, which graphics card are you using?10:49
meridelGTX 750Ti, and i'm gonna check for the manufacturer10:49
meridelI installed the non-free drivers10:51
knomedid it work before that?10:52
meridelNope :/10:52
meridelAnd it didn't change anything10:52
meridelDo you want any screenshot ?10:53
knomei did a quick search and people who have reported it seems to believe it's a problem with the graphics card...10:54
meridel:/ drivers or card itself ?10:54
xubuntu04wSO what can I do people?10:54
knomethe drivers...10:54
meridel^^'10:54
meridelWell do you have any idea of what I could do ?10:54
knomei haven't seen this happen myself, so not really i'm afraid10:55
meridelAw... well, thanks for your time anyway10:55
meridelI'll continue searching10:55
knomenp, good luck10:55
xubuntu04wHello, I'm still here :D10:55
xubuntu04wWith my very long time in splash screen during boot!10:56
knomexubuntu04w, we've seen your question; if somebody knows the answer or can help you with it, they will likely reply10:56
xubuntu04wPlease help, I need to eat something10:57
meridelMaybe I should try to install drivers from unstable repos11:00
meridelRisky tho...11:00
Unit193xubuntu04w: Got a log of what boot-repair did?   Could check fstab, make sure grub is installed normally, etc but those are just shots in the dark.11:04
xubuntu04wYes.11:04
xubuntu04wJust a second11:04
xubuntu04wthe last three were: paste.ubuntu.com/15576020 ; paste.ubuntu.com/15576338 ; paste.ubuntu.com/15576963 (latest one)11:06
xubuntu04wAs you can see I was trying to use EFI11:10
xubuntu04wBut I couldn't. SO I returned to Legacy11:10
xubuntu04wMy Xubuntu 15.10 dual boots with a Linux Mint XFCE 17.311:11
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xubuntu04wMint is also taking a long time to boot now, but not quite as much as Xubuntu11:12
knomeso you used boot-repair to try to use EFI, and after that the boot has been slow?11:12
xubuntu04wI couldn't boot at all after trying to follow boot repair instructions to use EFI11:13
xubuntu04wSo I used it again but differently11:13
xubuntu04wI followed its instructions for legacy11:13
knomebut the slowness came after using boot-repair?11:13
xubuntu04wYes11:13
xubuntu04wImmediately after11:14
xubuntu04wI've been struggling with this since yesterday11:14
Unit193Remove 'quiet splash' to see where the hangup is, but note the lines at the bottom regarding sda1.11:15
xubuntu04wHow can I do this? I forgot the commands.11:15
Unit193At the grub prompt, e to edit and remove those two options, pressing F10 (IIRC) afterwards.  It gives you notes at the bottom of the screen at least too.11:17
xubuntu04wHow to access the grub prompt?11:17
Unit193The one where you select Xubuntu or Mint.11:18
xubuntu04wSo am I going to remove all options with "quiet splash" in them?11:19
xubuntu04wSo am i going to reboot in order to accomplish this?11:19
xubuntu04wAnd then take a photo of the notes?11:20
Unit193They're unimportant, they're there to tell you what keys to hit.  Afterwards it'll give you output while it boots rather than just showing a picture.11:21
xubuntu04wOk, then let's see if I understand: I'm going to reboot now, and when the menu where I select Xubuntu or Mint appears, I'm going to press some button to edit options and then I'll try to find any options containing 'quiet splash', and then I'll remove them and then press f10.11:24
xubuntu04wAnd then I'll boot again and come here to chat.11:24
xubuntu04wIs that all or am I missing something?11:24
Unit193Then pay attention and see exactly where it hangs up.  Well, F10 will *continue* booting.11:24
xubuntu04wWhen it hangs up, is it good to take a pic with my smartphone?11:25
xubuntu04wMaybe my memory fails :P11:25
xubuntu16wHello! I rebooted and payed attention, I took some pics11:41
xubuntu16wIt hangs up during " A start is running for dev-mapper-cryptswap1.device11:41
xubuntu16wA start job*11:42
xubuntu16wFollowed by a similar message but more extensive11:42
xubuntu16wand then back to that11:42
xubuntu16wDO you want me to upload the pics somewhere?11:42
Unit193Did you mean to have encrypted swap?  And could be handy, sure.11:43
xubuntu16wI don't have any swap partition anymore, it was giving bugs... so this is weird11:44
xubuntu16wWhere can I upload?11:44
xubuntu16wI deleted the swap partition using gparted some days ago11:44
xubuntu16w:P11:44
Unit193That's not going to help, it's still in your /etc/fstab.11:45
xubuntu16wThen is it the culprit?11:45
xubuntu16wFor both xubuntu and mint?11:45
xubuntu16wI suspected since the start the swap continues giving me headaches11:45
xubuntu16w:(11:45
xubuntu16wWhat can I do?11:46
Unit1931. Re-create the swap partition.  2. As a workaround comment out the line in /etc/fstab (and maybe /etc/crypttab, depending.) but generally a good idea to have it.11:47
Unit193!swap11:47
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info11:47
xubuntu16wWhat size does it need to be11:48
xubuntu16wAnd can I create just one for both xubuntu and mint?11:48
Unit193Yes.  Eh, used to be they'd say about the same size as the ram you have.11:48
xubuntu16wOk it's created11:54
Unit193Check the UUID and change /etc/fstab to reflect that.11:54
xubuntu16wHow can I do those things?11:54
xubuntu16wI'm so noob lol11:55
Unit193`blkid`11:55
bekkssudo blkid -g; sudo blkid11:55
xubuntu16wdo I need to copy paste it for you to see?11:56
bekksxubuntu16w: you need to pastebin it and provide the URL. But you need to see it, since you need to edit your /etc/fstab11:57
xubuntu16whttps://paste.ubuntu.com/15587354/11:58
xubuntu16wWhat now11:58
Unit193bekks: In case you missed, there's a commented entry for that in there, and uncommented one for cryptswap he needs to remove (something in crypttab too then likely)11:58
bekksUnit193: So its pretty clear what he needs to do then, I guess.11:59
Unit193Mhmm.12:00
xubuntu16wNow, to fstab. How can I access and edit that?12:02
xubuntu16wIs that the next step?12:02
Unit193xubuntu16w: Copy the UUID over the other one in fstab, and make sure the line is uncommented.  Also make sure the cryptswap line is commented.12:23
xubuntu16wok12:28
xubuntu16wbut i dont know hot access fstab12:28
xubuntu16w:<12:28
xubuntu16whow to*12:28
Unit193It's a file, so pkexec mousepad /etc/fstab12:29
Unit193Also pastebinit /etc/crypttab too.12:30
xubuntu16wI don't know what to edit. Look how fstab and crypttab look: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15587575/12:33
xubuntu16wFstab is weird12:34
xubuntu16wI was thinking about removing line 15 and editing UUID of line 13 and uncommenting it12:44
xubuntu16wIs that?12:44
Unit193Comment/remove 14 too, and remove the line in crypttab.12:45
xubuntu16wok13:18
xubuntu16win crypttab I just need to remove the line, making the file blank?13:20
xubuntu16wNothing to edit or add?13:20
xubuntu16wThat's what I did :P13:20
meridelHum13:32
meridelI solved my problems \o13:32
xubuntu16wUnit193 ?13:36
Unit193xubuntu16w: Yes?13:36
xubuntu16wIn crypttab13:36
xubuntu16wbesides removing the line13:36
xubuntu16wanything more to do there?13:36
meridelHum... does anybody knows why Ubuntu doesnt detect my second screen ? Even with xrandr... :/13:37
Unit193Nope, that's all I said for that one.13:37
xubuntu16wthe file is blank not ext at all13:37
xubuntu16wtext*13:37
xubuntu16wokay13:37
xubuntu16wso I'll reboot, okay?13:37
xubuntu16wor any other step before rebboting?13:37
Unit193Lastly: sudo update-initramfs -c -k all13:39
xubuntu16wThe output of this was only update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-34-generic update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic13:41
xubuntu16wnothing more13:42
xubuntu16wcan I reboot now?13:42
Unit193Yep.13:43
xubuntu16wk, I'll come back in some minutes (hopefully less hehe)13:43
xubuntu03wsniff sniff :'( splash screen keeps going for more that 120 seconds13:47
xubuntu03wUnit193 it's me13:47
xubuntu03wI don't think it worked at all.. issue remains13:48
meridelCan anyone help me ? :313:48
xubuntu12whello16:32
knome hello16:32
xubuntu12wi need help with xubuntu16:32
knomeask your question16:32
xubuntu12wi want to know hoe to change my password16:33
knomewhich version are you running?16:33
xubuntu12w14.0416:33
knomexubuntu12w, http://docs.xubuntu.org/1510/C/guide-keeping-safe.html#passwords-change-login16:34
xubuntu12wthank you16:34
Arthur_D3hi, I am having issues getting HDMI output to work. I've tried both the nouveau and the proprietary driver on this laptop but to no avail16:43
Arthur_D3xrandr says HDMI-1 is connected but I still get no signal on the TV16:45
xubuntu594hola, alguien me puede ayudar con el flash player para cromium?16:50
knome!es | xubuntu59416:50
ubottuxubuntu594: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:50
xubuntu37wi cant logg in to my own account every time i type my password the screen goes black and it tells me to logg i  again17:00
xubuntu37ware you there17:02
xubuntu37whello17:03
dkessel!ask | xubuntu37w17:04
ubottuxubuntu37w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:04
knomexubuntu37w, and yes, we are here and have heard your question; we are all volunteers so please be patient17:04
xubuntu37wi cant logg in to my own account every time i type my password the screen goes black and it tells me to logg i  again17:06
dkesselxubuntu37w: it could be this, could you try the steps described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop17:07
dkesselalso, have you installed any restricted graphics drivers yourself?17:08
xubuntu37wno , i dont know all that stuff17:11
dkesselok bb....17:14
dkesselwell at least i tried17:14
xubuntu41wHello, I'm still seeins the splash screen during boot for  a very long time, using xubuntu 15.10 on dell inspiron 14r 542117:40
xubuntu41wseeing*17:40
xubuntu41wThe splash screen keeps going for more than 100 seconds17:40
xubuntu41wUnit193 hello17:41
xubuntu41wI was afk17:41
xubuntu41wnow i came back17:41
xubuntu41wcan you give more steps & instructions?17:41
krixvarHi all, is it possible to use xfconf-query to change a panel's autohide to always hide? When I set it to true it makes it use intelligent autohide instead19:22
krytarikkrixvar: Change it via GUI, and then check what it's set at?19:24
krixvarkrytarik: Thanks, I hadn't thought of that - it sets it to 2, so I had to change the parameter to say I was using an int rather than boolean value19:26
krixvarI've been tinkering with keyboard shortcuts too, and was trying to figure out two things - is it possible to make a command to move a window from one screen to another in a multi window setup? And is it possible to turn on the switch workspaces on dragging a window only while holding a specific key combination?19:28
krytarikkrixvar: For the first, look into 'wmctrl'; and afaik the second isn't possible.19:31
krixvarkrytarik: Awesome, I'll take a look.19:32
krixvarThat's what I figured - xfce would launch the script I was trying multiple times if I held the shortcut, and I didn't seem to be able to actually drag a window while holding. I'll just use two shortcuts for toggling then (unless its possible to have one command toggle rather than set to an explicit value?)19:33
krytarikkrixvar: Well, there is a '--toggle' option for 'xfconf-query', if that's what you mean - http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfconf/xfconf-query19:38
krixvarkrytarik: perfect, I missed that before19:42
phanes_anybody seeing network route issues in xubuntu 14.04?21:36
phanes_ive got two nics and cant get a reliable connection to my lan on any imaginable combination of settings and honestly ive never seen anything like this -- it 'should' be talking to the router21:37
phanes_i got banned in #ubuntu trying to find out so please go gentle21:37
bazhangtry ##networking phanes_22:01
phanes_i am honestly relatively convinced that this is a bug somewhere in the network stack specific to this distro after troubleshooting but i am in there as well22:02
phanes_it appears to be a route issue but i suspect something deeper22:02
bazhangdo you have a link to the bug or have you filed a bug yet22:02
phanes_as we've now tried multiple NICs, all of which today ive since tested in Fedora 23, Debian, Ubunty Wily and now Ubunty Trusty, with the only issue in the two ubuntu releases22:03
phanes_not yet, im not really sure what to put in a bug report at this stage22:03
phanes_i will be happy to file one if thats what it ends up being22:04
phanesyeah, this is not a networking issue we appear to be looking at either a deep routing configuration issue or a network stack bug specific to ubuntu/xubuntu22:55
skywhalexfwm does not support vsync - which wm works with xfce that does?23:23
Unit193skywhale: Did you look in Window Manager Tweaks → Compositor?  And if you did actually try that, just disable the compositor on xfwm and use compton.23:24
skywhaleUnit193: compo off solves fullscreen vsync problems and perf, but breaks flash and desktop tears, hmm23:35
Unit193skywhale: OK, and I presume "sync to the vblink" is checked.23:41
skywhaleyup (using fglrx)23:44
skywhalekwin works fine, but not with xfce, hmm23:44
Unit193OK, to compton!  Xubuntu ships some default example config.23:45
skywhaleWill have to try that.23:50
Unit193BTW, Xenial doesn't have fglrx, it's not needed anymore.23:53

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