[09:37] <phillw> yay !!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shutter/+bug/1564122 we will ship with a working version :D
[18:59] <phillw> flexiondotorg:  ping :) pi2 --> pi3
[20:34] <tsimonq2> phillw: can you confirm that lxrandr is seriously fcuked up?
[20:34] <tsimonq2> like, for changing the resolution
[20:35] <tsimonq2> arandr works fine...
[20:35] <phillw> tsimonq2: it works fine for me, just needs re-setting each boot.
[20:36] <phillw> it is on my list of bugs to be reported.... is that what you see?
[20:36] <tsimonq2> yes, it's all fcuked up
[20:37] <tsimonq2> wxl, phillw, ianorlin: I have personally confirmed the following bugs: bug 1447038 bug 1370707 bug 966480 bug 1530323 bug 1484785 bug 1516454 bug 1444682 bug 1445818 bug 1551446 bug 1522625
[20:38] <tsimonq2> (in today's daily image)
[20:40] <tsimonq2> bug 1516454 bug 1444682 bug 1445818 bug 1551446 bug 1522625
[20:41] <tsimonq2> that should be all :)
[20:41] <phillw> tsimonq2: I'm busy else where, but can I ask that you look at the bug status before posting them all here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shutter/+bug/1564122
[20:42] <phillw> Do you see the "Fix released" bit?
[20:42] <phillw> it has taken a lot of nagging, and my being knocked back.... but... we will ship with a working version :D
[20:43] <tsimonq2> phillw: what do you mean by that, I'm just saying I confirmed them all, regardless of the status :)
[20:43] <tsimonq2> and I don't see any "Fix Released" BTW
[20:44] <phillw> confirmed / triaged are bugs we will include in the notes... they do not need anyone else to confirm them. That has been carried out.
[20:44] <phillw> Instead, hug a bug and help it...
[20:45] <tsimonq2> phillw: hey, I am just making sure something magical somehow fixed it...happened before
[20:45] <tsimonq2> PLUS I weeded out ones that weren't accurate and I don't know how they got there in the first place
[20:46] <tsimonq2> for example, the Desktop switching bug is an lxpanel bug, not obconf
[20:47] <tsimonq2> phillw: plus, you will be happy to know that I switched to KVM :D
[20:47] <tsimonq2> virsh FTW
[20:47] <phillw> I was told that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shutter/+bug/1564122 would not make it into xenial as it is not bug fix, coming from a ppa etc. etc.... Rules are there to be re interpreted .... "Does it work now ?..... Nope - What's the worst that can happen? .... It does not work" ... And, yes, it breaks ALL the rules.... But, that is why we have humans, and not computers, decide.
[20:48] <tsimonq2> hey, I didn't report THAT ;0
[20:48] <tsimonq2> *;)
[20:48] <phillw> tsimonq2: how old were you at last b/day?
[20:49] <tsimonq2> I turned 14...a bit offtopic, why?
[20:51] <teward> so, stupid obviousness, but with the RPi3 images, are you planning on keeping it on armhf or are you planning moving to arm64?  I've heard the benefits of arm64 aren't major, according to RPi reviews...
[20:51]  * teward was planning on running Lubuntu on his RPi3
[20:51] <teward> when it arrives ;)
[20:51] <phillw> teward: ask flexiondotorg
[20:52]  * teward throws a stream of bytes at flexiondotorg
[20:54] <phillw> teward:  he is the guy in charge of https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/
[20:54] <tsimonq2> teward: theoretically, all you have to do is edit the script that makes the images to debootstrap arm64, then make sure the packages in the PPA that he uses works with arm64, then it *should* _hopefully_ work
[20:55] <teward> tsimonq2: that... wasn't my question
[20:55] <teward> "are you planning on keeping it on armhf or are you planning moving to arm64?" <-- this was the question
[20:55] <teward> yes, or no.
[20:55] <teward> tsimonq2: i'm aware of how bootstrapping works, too, don't forget I bootstrapped every arch for Xenial for sbuild ;P
[20:55] <phillw> tsimonq2: the guy is lead of ubuntu-MATE ... So, I am sure he understands the basics :P
[20:55] <tsimonq2> phillw: I was telling teward
[20:56] <teward> phillw: tsimonq2: the RPi3 MATE images are armhf still, afaict
[20:56] <teward> hence why i asked here :)
[20:56] <tsimonq2> yeah I think so :)
[20:56] <teward> 'afaict' == as far as I can tell
[20:56] <teward> i dissected an image recently :P
[20:56] <phillw> tsimonq2: teward knows a lot more about stuff than he lets on .... :)
[20:56]  * teward actually is still doing that for permissions variance checks
[20:56] <teward> phillw's right
[20:56]  * teward knows things
[20:57] <tsimonq2> hey hey hey, stop coming across as malevolent you two :P
[20:58] <teward> E: Cannot stop object 'malevolence.service' - Access denied.
[20:58] <phillw> tsimonq2: have teward as a friend, you will learn much. So, if you accept that - he will fine.
[20:58] <tsimonq2> lol
[23:25] <phillw> tsimonq2: Simon Quigley via canonical.com 21:36 (2 hours ago)to meThis is no longer a problem. please do not send me emails about issues that have been resolved... If it says in the release notes 'work around' and bug report says "Will not fix"... stop making chatter on the email channel.
[23:25] <phillw>  
[23:26] <phillw> wxl: will you please pull him in? We know the exact status of LSC. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1467517
[23:27] <tsimonq2>  /o\ hey, be nice :P
[23:27] <tsimonq2> fine fine fine, I'll look out for it in the future
[23:27] <phillw> tsimonq2: read the bug!!!
[23:27] <tsimonq2> *sigh*
[23:28] <phillw> it is marked "Wont Fix"  by the guy in charge of LSC.
[23:29] <phillw> tsimonq2: he is the guy in charge of the Qt version for us... I assimilated him and he is now a fully fledged dev.
[23:30] <tsimonq2> phillw: I get it, let's drop it :)