[00:31] <mjh75> If I installed 16.04 beta today will it be able to be upgraded to 16.04 release on the 21st?
[00:31] <lotuspsychje> !final | mjh75
[00:32] <lotuspsychje> mjh75: just keep in mind that until final, things can still break
[00:32] <mjh75> Okay, didn't want to have to start over
[00:32] <mjh75> Understand, it is beta so that makes sense
[00:34] <mjh75> I need to get some servers up and running in the next month or so and figured there is no real point in sticking with 14.04 with 16 so close. I need to make sure my services will work etc so the beta seems like a good place to start
[00:34] <lotuspsychje> mjh75: good idea, just dont use as daily production yet :p
[00:35] <mjh75> And if I am foolish enough to and it breaks I get to keep all the pieces :)
[00:36] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[00:36] <lotuspsychje> im running on desktop, and already working like a charm
[00:38] <mjh75> This will be more server stuff, but have something like 13 VM's running 14.04 and am working on getting some automation in place with puppet and am going to start with fresh VM's. Playing now makes sense
[00:54] <mjh75> Okay, glad I decided to play....this is going to take a bunch of work. Will need to build some packages to replace the ancient versions that are included lol
[00:56] <EoinD> hey guys , is ubuntu-make working in 16.04 ?
[00:57] <EoinD> I am getting a lot of errors even after adding the ppa
[00:57] <EoinD> installing android or idea-ultimate
[00:58] <mjh75> Just doing my first 16.04 install now.
[00:58] <EoinD> I had issues w/ a 6700k and a 970
[00:59] <EoinD> had to blacklist nouveau + install nvidia drivers
[00:59] <EoinD> or else i was getting huge crashes on login
[01:01] <mjh75> This is a server install on a VM
[01:04] <EoinD> are you running from 15.10 ? or 14.04
[01:04] <mjh75> I have both of those in use, but trying out 16.04 on a VM under vmware ESX
[01:05] <EoinD> 16.04 is running ok for me
[01:05] <EoinD> some errors and hiccups here and there
[01:05] <EoinD> but i was reinstalling ubuntu after getting annoyed at opensuse
[01:06] <mjh75> There are a few things I need to sort out. More along the lines of getting current application versions instead of the old stuff that is included, but nothing show stopping yet
[01:06] <EoinD> i was running ubuntu-make on 15.10 perfectly
[01:06] <EoinD> and now it's not working on 16.04
[01:06] <EoinD> and noone seems to be talking about it , so i dunno what's up
[01:07] <mjh75> I haven't got that far. Still trying to figure out why my eth0 is not eth0 but ens160
[02:12] <coffeeguy> hi i'm using 16.04 and was wondering if there are any issues with x264 mpeg-4 avc playback in the default video player
[02:16] <coffeeguy> nm got it
[02:22] <squinty> mjh75,  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/   if you are really interested  ;-)  fwiw, arch linux went this route quite awhile ago iirc
[02:29] <mjh75> Yeah I found that...part of the goofy systemd stuff
[02:31] <mjh75> It does make scripting things hard when the interface is not known/predicatable
[05:26] <dm_comp> hi virt help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15596222/
[05:26] <dm_comp> thx!
[05:27] <dm_comp> might be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1393842
[05:27] <dm_comp> looking at it now
[05:33] <dm_comp> I will try Mark Grocock mgrocock solution (wrote on 2014-11-19)
[05:46] <dm_comp> did not help
[06:02] <dm_comp> brb
[06:21] <dm_comp> hi, i need libvirt 1.3.1-1ubuntu8 how would i go about getting it?
[06:22] <dm_comp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15596419/
[06:23] <dm_comp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15596422/
[07:18] <sruli> i am trying lubuntu 16.04 beta2 and have the problem where splash screen does not show passphrase entry screen, bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1530548 does anyone know of a workaround which shows the splash screen ?
[07:26] <dm_comp> exi
[07:26] <dm_comp> exit
[07:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:52] <B0g4r7_> carp, I should have done this whole install using GPT.
[09:47] <SCHAAP137> upgraded 15.10 to 16.04 yesterday, now my OSD notifications in MATE seem a bit off
[09:47] <SCHAAP137> as if they're not using the same GTK2/GTK3 theme as the rest
[09:47] <SCHAAP137> the "built in" notification (for songs playing) from Clementine suddenly is really small, almost unreadable
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:21] <jonathan_zz> maybe we can continue here lol.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> then we'd better stay on topic
[12:22] <jonathan_zz> hahaha
[12:22] <jonathan_zz> failed again.
[12:26] <kdm12> I am thinking of trying Xenial. If I update a daily build, is that the same as the current daily build?
[12:27] <ikonia> daily is just a snapshot of today
[12:27] <ikonia> if you're up to date, you're at "today"
[12:28] <k1l_> kdm12: yes. with running updates you are on the latest packages like you installed the daily
[12:28] <kdm12> ikonia: k1l_ Thank you.
[12:28] <kdm12> Having to install daily would be a drag.
[12:40] <kdm12> Technically, is apt any better than apt-get? Are the improvements just in the UI by rolling two tools into one?
[12:41] <k1l_> it got a progress bar!
[12:41] <kdm12> omg, so it has.
[12:42] <k1l_> iirc they still use the same libs in the background. but apt tries to put all the most used apt-get, apt-cache...  commands into one
[12:42] <k1l_> and it renamed the apt-get dist-upgrade to apt full-upgrade. which doesnt confuse the beginners that much.
[12:43] <kdm12> oh, i just dist-upgrade and it worked.
[12:43] <k1l_> yes it works. but beginners always say: i dont want to upgrade to the next ubuntu release.
[12:44] <k1l_> because they think apt-get dist-upgrade does the same as so-release-upgrade.
[12:45] <kdm12> I see. So now we can tell beginners to use 'apt full-upgrade' and it doesn't start arguments. Nice. Should I bug report 'dist-upgrade' still being a valid apt command?
[12:46] <k1l_> what bug?
[12:47] <jonathan_zz> the one that eats electrons.
[12:49] <kdm12> Oh nice. Gthumb has been upgraded for the first time in many years.
[12:49] <kdm12> It stopped working under Unity for some time. I see it's back in Xenial.
[13:03] <kdm12> the bug was if 'dist-upgrade' option of apt is supposed to have been renamed, why does it still work?
[13:05] <k1l_> its not renamed. they just made a better additional one.
[13:08] <kdm12> Ok. I like Xenial. They've fixed a bug witht he recycle bin and somehow got the new Gnome apps to work
[13:08] <kalexyco> I hate Xenial
[13:09] <kdm12> What broke for you?
[13:12] <kalexyco> install or update
[13:13] <kalexyco> to hard to boot after upgrade
[13:13] <kalexyco> distro completely broken
[13:13] <kalexyco> too much conflicts with skylake i915 and nouveau driver
[13:14] <kalexyco> (sorry with my english)
[13:14] <kdm12> kalexyco: Ah I see. I am running virtualised ATM so I haven't encountered that. I'm actually too frightened to install it on metal :-)
[13:16] <kalexyco> on my old laptop (lenovo yoga 2 pro) Xenial is great with gnome 3
[13:16] <kalexyco> fast and fluent
[13:17] <kdm12> I've got a macbook with Wily installed on the metal (and no Mac OS). Works fine except the touchpad isn't quite as good, and the heat/battery is worse.
[13:18] <kdm12> Oh and no camera driver ...
[13:23] <kalexyco> i'am waiting for 16.04LTS final release
[13:36] <kepa> kalexyco: I have a skylake and nvidia laptop, just boot with nouveau.modeset=0 or nomodeset, then install xenial and then install nvidia drivers
[13:36] <kepa> running fine
[15:17] <kdm12> Nice, my entire workflow works on a Xenial VM and with one less bug. I'm happy, assuming they get it stable on the actual hardware. Plus I love the updated gnome apps in unity.
[16:58] <Xard> Seems like the xpad driver used in the current 4.4 kernel on 16.04 beta suffers from rumble effects causing kernel oopses "PID: 18314 at /build/linux-bi18CQ/linux-4.4.0/drivers/usb/core/urb.c:338 usb_submit_urb+0x51/0x70()"
[16:58] <Xard> related to: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg31446.html
[17:01] <xothed> Hi
[17:01] <xothed> I have problem with responding to FN+ different options
[17:01] <xothed> after today Update
[17:01] <xothed> automatic
[17:01] <xothed> the keys are not working anymore as expected
[17:02] <xothed> from logs is see this
[17:02] <xothed> Start-Date: 2016-04-03  18:19:30
[17:02] <xothed> Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.177'
[17:02] <xothed> Upgrade: openjdk-8-jre:amd64 (8u77-b03-1ubuntu2, 8u77-b03-3ubuntu1), ubuntu-standard:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), ubuntu-desktop:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), ubuntu-minimal:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64 (8u77-b03-1ubuntu2, 8u77-b03-3ubuntu1)
[17:02] <xothed> End-Date: 2016-04-03  18:19:35
[17:02] <Xard> also addressed by these xpad drivers: https://github.com/paroj/xpad/
[17:04] <xothed> does someone could help ?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video
[18:17] <B0g4r7_> so I still can't get grub to be happy with lvmcache.
[18:18] <B0g4r7_> As soon as I convert the lv to cached, grub will no longer boot the system or install itself using grub-install, complaining grub-install: error: disk `lvmid/c1YiKf-OUnt-XkKg-AKp7-1UdX-AwvR-QEJvFk/oX0wZA-V9d5-kZWd-sg5G-4wBG-bIsq-N9qiwO' not found.
[18:19] <B0g4r7_> ...even though the vg and lv with those IDs are clearly there.  They did not change.
[18:19] <B0g4r7_> I can split the cache pool off the lv, and it all works again.
[18:19] <lemurcikas> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 16 and after trying to apt-get update I can't update, because http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com is unreachable. What to do? Maybe I need to change mirror?
[18:28] <SCHAAP137> anyone else getting the terminal window pop up with Steam?
[18:39] <kepa> SCHAAP137: yes
[18:44] <SCHAAP137> kepa, fixed it by purging and reinstalling
[18:44] <SCHAAP137> luckily i had my steam library in a different place
[18:44] <ai> Will there be Beta 3 or is there a way to download something newer than beta 2?
[18:45] <kepa> nice, thanks
[18:45] <kepa> ai daily-live
[18:46] <kepa> ai:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[18:46] <ai> Oh good to know. Thanks!
[18:49] <B0g4r7_> Hmm, so does beta 2 just seamlessly become the release when the release happens, assuming I upgrade the packages?
[18:51] <B0g4r7_> Looks like I may need to break /boot out into a separate fs on its own (non-cached) lv to make this work.
[19:26] <circ-user-H9BBx> hey guys, i have a question. According to Ubuntu team announcement, in Ubuntu 16.04 they would have supported Vulkan, but today I installed beta version of 16.04 and I can't execute my vulkan samples, it says incompatible driver
[19:28] <B0g4r7_> omg it's working.  My system's booting using lvmcache on rootfs.
[19:29] <B0g4r7_> Now I just need to "convert" Server to Desktop...
[19:34] <circ-user-H9BBx> does ubuntu gonna support vulkan in this version?
[20:00] <B0g4r7_> Mir + Unity 8 huh...
[23:10] <Madhumper69> ufw seems to be enabled all is fine in terminal however when i open gufw the application wont open i get no errors?  any direction into this issue would be helpful thanks
[23:24] <Madhumper69> Turns out I was missing a package called python-gobject; installed it and gufw works flawlessly.
[23:24] <Madhumper69>  resolved my isuse thanks for all the help guys ;)
[23:54] <B0g4r7_> So, on 14.04 I could install gnome-flashback-session, and be able to run the so-called "classic ui".  Can I achieve the same thing now on 16.04?
[23:55] <B0g4r7_> It does not seem to have a package of that name.