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mjh75If I installed 16.04 beta today will it be able to be upgraded to 16.04 release on the 21st?00:31
lotuspsychje!final | mjh7500:31
ubottumjh75: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.00:31
lotuspsychjemjh75: just keep in mind that until final, things can still break00:32
mjh75Okay, didn't want to have to start over00:32
mjh75Understand, it is beta so that makes sense00:32
mjh75I need to get some servers up and running in the next month or so and figured there is no real point in sticking with 14.04 with 16 so close. I need to make sure my services will work etc so the beta seems like a good place to start00:34
lotuspsychjemjh75: good idea, just dont use as daily production yet :p00:34
mjh75And if I am foolish enough to and it breaks I get to keep all the pieces :)00:35
lotuspsychjehehe00:36
lotuspsychjeim running on desktop, and already working like a charm00:36
mjh75This will be more server stuff, but have something like 13 VM's running 14.04 and am working on getting some automation in place with puppet and am going to start with fresh VM's. Playing now makes sense00:38
mjh75Okay, glad I decided to play....this is going to take a bunch of work. Will need to build some packages to replace the ancient versions that are included lol00:54
EoinDhey guys , is ubuntu-make working in 16.04 ?00:56
EoinDI am getting a lot of errors even after adding the ppa00:57
EoinDinstalling android or idea-ultimate00:57
mjh75Just doing my first 16.04 install now.00:58
EoinDI had issues w/ a 6700k and a 97000:58
EoinDhad to blacklist nouveau + install nvidia drivers00:59
EoinDor else i was getting huge crashes on login00:59
mjh75This is a server install on a VM01:01
EoinDare you running from 15.10 ? or 14.0401:04
mjh75I have both of those in use, but trying out 16.04 on a VM under vmware ESX01:04
EoinD16.04 is running ok for me01:05
EoinDsome errors and hiccups here and there01:05
EoinDbut i was reinstalling ubuntu after getting annoyed at opensuse01:05
mjh75There are a few things I need to sort out. More along the lines of getting current application versions instead of the old stuff that is included, but nothing show stopping yet01:06
EoinDi was running ubuntu-make on 15.10 perfectly01:06
EoinDand now it's not working on 16.0401:06
EoinDand noone seems to be talking about it , so i dunno what's up01:06
mjh75I haven't got that far. Still trying to figure out why my eth0 is not eth0 but ens16001:07
coffeeguyhi i'm using 16.04 and was wondering if there are any issues with x264 mpeg-4 avc playback in the default video player02:12
coffeeguynm got it02:16
squintymjh75,  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/   if you are really interested  ;-)  fwiw, arch linux went this route quite awhile ago iirc02:22
mjh75Yeah I found that...part of the goofy systemd stuff02:29
mjh75It does make scripting things hard when the interface is not known/predicatable02:31
dm_comphi virt help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15596222/05:26
dm_compthx!05:26
dm_compmight be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/139384205:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1393842 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "libvirt does not grant qemu-guest-agent channel perms" [High,Confirmed]05:27
dm_complooking at it now05:27
dm_compI will try Mark Grocock mgrocock solution (wrote on 2014-11-19)05:33
dm_compdid not help05:46
dm_compbrb06:02
dm_comphi, i need libvirt 1.3.1-1ubuntu8 how would i go about getting it?06:21
dm_comphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15596419/06:22
dm_comphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15596422/06:23
srulii am trying lubuntu 16.04 beta2 and have the problem where splash screen does not show passphrase entry screen, bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1530548 does anyone know of a workaround which shows the splash screen ?07:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "duplicate for #1530548 cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged]07:18
dm_compexi07:26
dm_compexit07:26
lordievaderGood morning.07:34
B0g4r7_carp, I should have done this whole install using GPT.07:52
SCHAAP137upgraded 15.10 to 16.04 yesterday, now my OSD notifications in MATE seem a bit off09:47
SCHAAP137as if they're not using the same GTK2/GTK3 theme as the rest09:47
SCHAAP137the "built in" notification (for songs playing) from Clementine suddenly is really small, almost unreadable09:47
BluesKajHiyas all12:02
jonathan_zzmaybe we can continue here lol.12:21
BluesKajthen we'd better stay on topic12:22
jonathan_zzhahaha12:22
jonathan_zzfailed again.12:22
kdm12I am thinking of trying Xenial. If I update a daily build, is that the same as the current daily build?12:26
ikoniadaily is just a snapshot of today12:27
ikoniaif you're up to date, you're at "today"12:27
k1l_kdm12: yes. with running updates you are on the latest packages like you installed the daily12:28
kdm12ikonia: k1l_ Thank you.12:28
kdm12Having to install daily would be a drag.12:28
kdm12Technically, is apt any better than apt-get? Are the improvements just in the UI by rolling two tools into one?12:40
k1l_it got a progress bar!12:41
kdm12omg, so it has.12:41
k1l_iirc they still use the same libs in the background. but apt tries to put all the most used apt-get, apt-cache...  commands into one12:42
k1l_and it renamed the apt-get dist-upgrade to apt full-upgrade. which doesnt confuse the beginners that much.12:42
kdm12oh, i just dist-upgrade and it worked.12:43
k1l_yes it works. but beginners always say: i dont want to upgrade to the next ubuntu release.12:43
k1l_because they think apt-get dist-upgrade does the same as so-release-upgrade.12:44
kdm12I see. So now we can tell beginners to use 'apt full-upgrade' and it doesn't start arguments. Nice. Should I bug report 'dist-upgrade' still being a valid apt command?12:45
k1l_what bug?12:46
jonathan_zzthe one that eats electrons.12:47
kdm12Oh nice. Gthumb has been upgraded for the first time in many years.12:49
kdm12It stopped working under Unity for some time. I see it's back in Xenial.12:49
kdm12the bug was if 'dist-upgrade' option of apt is supposed to have been renamed, why does it still work?13:03
k1l_its not renamed. they just made a better additional one.13:05
kdm12Ok. I like Xenial. They've fixed a bug witht he recycle bin and somehow got the new Gnome apps to work13:08
kalexycoI hate Xenial13:08
kdm12What broke for you?13:09
kalexycoinstall or update13:12
kalexycoto hard to boot after upgrade13:13
kalexycodistro completely broken13:13
kalexycotoo much conflicts with skylake i915 and nouveau driver13:13
kalexyco(sorry with my english)13:14
kdm12kalexyco: Ah I see. I am running virtualised ATM so I haven't encountered that. I'm actually too frightened to install it on metal :-)13:14
kalexycoon my old laptop (lenovo yoga 2 pro) Xenial is great with gnome 313:16
kalexycofast and fluent13:16
kdm12I've got a macbook with Wily installed on the metal (and no Mac OS). Works fine except the touchpad isn't quite as good, and the heat/battery is worse.13:17
kdm12Oh and no camera driver ...13:18
kalexycoi'am waiting for 16.04LTS final release13:23
kepakalexyco: I have a skylake and nvidia laptop, just boot with nouveau.modeset=0 or nomodeset, then install xenial and then install nvidia drivers13:36
keparunning fine13:36
kdm12Nice, my entire workflow works on a Xenial VM and with one less bug. I'm happy, assuming they get it stable on the actual hardware. Plus I love the updated gnome apps in unity.15:17
XardSeems like the xpad driver used in the current 4.4 kernel on 16.04 beta suffers from rumble effects causing kernel oopses "PID: 18314 at /build/linux-bi18CQ/linux-4.4.0/drivers/usb/core/urb.c:338 usb_submit_urb+0x51/0x70()"16:58
Xardrelated to: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg31446.html16:58
xothedHi17:01
xothedI have problem with responding to FN+ different options17:01
xothedafter today Update17:01
xothedautomatic17:01
xothedthe keys are not working anymore as expected17:01
xothedfrom logs is see this17:02
xothedStart-Date: 2016-04-03  18:19:3017:02
xothedCommandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.177'17:02
xothedUpgrade: openjdk-8-jre:amd64 (8u77-b03-1ubuntu2, 8u77-b03-3ubuntu1), ubuntu-standard:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), ubuntu-desktop:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), ubuntu-minimal:amd64 (1.354, 1.355), openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64 (8u77-b03-1ubuntu2, 8u77-b03-3ubuntu1)17:02
xothedEnd-Date: 2016-04-03  18:19:3517:02
Xardalso addressed by these xpad drivers: https://github.com/paroj/xpad/17:02
xotheddoes someone could help ?17:04
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video17:48
B0g4r7_so I still can't get grub to be happy with lvmcache.18:17
B0g4r7_As soon as I convert the lv to cached, grub will no longer boot the system or install itself using grub-install, complaining grub-install: error: disk `lvmid/c1YiKf-OUnt-XkKg-AKp7-1UdX-AwvR-QEJvFk/oX0wZA-V9d5-kZWd-sg5G-4wBG-bIsq-N9qiwO' not found.18:18
B0g4r7_...even though the vg and lv with those IDs are clearly there.  They did not change.18:19
B0g4r7_I can split the cache pool off the lv, and it all works again.18:19
lemurcikasHi. I installed Ubuntu 16 and after trying to apt-get update I can't update, because http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com is unreachable. What to do? Maybe I need to change mirror?18:19
SCHAAP137anyone else getting the terminal window pop up with Steam?18:28
kepaSCHAAP137: yes18:39
SCHAAP137kepa, fixed it by purging and reinstalling18:44
SCHAAP137luckily i had my steam library in a different place18:44
aiWill there be Beta 3 or is there a way to download something newer than beta 2?18:44
kepanice, thanks18:45
kepaai daily-live18:45
kepaai:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/18:46
aiOh good to know. Thanks!18:46
B0g4r7_Hmm, so does beta 2 just seamlessly become the release when the release happens, assuming I upgrade the packages?18:49
B0g4r7_Looks like I may need to break /boot out into a separate fs on its own (non-cached) lv to make this work.18:51
circ-user-H9BBxhey guys, i have a question. According to Ubuntu team announcement, in Ubuntu 16.04 they would have supported Vulkan, but today I installed beta version of 16.04 and I can't execute my vulkan samples, it says incompatible driver19:26
B0g4r7_omg it's working.  My system's booting using lvmcache on rootfs.19:28
B0g4r7_Now I just need to "convert" Server to Desktop...19:29
circ-user-H9BBxdoes ubuntu gonna support vulkan in this version?19:34
B0g4r7_Mir + Unity 8 huh...20:00
Madhumper69ufw seems to be enabled all is fine in terminal however when i open gufw the application wont open i get no errors?  any direction into this issue would be helpful thanks23:10
Madhumper69Turns out I was missing a package called python-gobject; installed it and gufw works flawlessly.23:24
Madhumper69 resolved my isuse thanks for all the help guys ;)23:24
B0g4r7_So, on 14.04 I could install gnome-flashback-session, and be able to run the so-called "classic ui".  Can I achieve the same thing now on 16.04?23:54
B0g4r7_It does not seem to have a package of that name.23:55

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