[01:03] <phillw> tsimonq2: so, you can confirm that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1467517 is solved for the test via alternate install?
[01:23] <tsimonq2> yes, that's what I meant by commenting there
[06:12] <dkessel> morning! so, are you people planning to switch to lxqt as a default at the start of the next cycle? or only maybe later, once the image looks/feels ok?
[11:23] <phillw> dkessel: lxqt will run as a community spin, only when the head of lubuntu dev is happy, will he propose the the Tech Board of Ubuntu that we switch from GTK to QT. There is a hell of a lot work going on behind the scenes to have Qt stuff passed and gotten into the various repos that it needs to be in. Some functionality is still being worked upon, so at moment best guess is 16.10 will have a Qt version available.
[11:34] <phillw> tsimonq2: one for you go and chase....  Ubuntu KylinOverview Code Bugs Blueprints Translations AnswersRecord as affecting another projectBug #1530323 Record as affecting another projectA bug may need fixing in more than one project. You may add another project for this bug here.(?)Bug #1530323: The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctlyThere is 1 error.Project: (Choose…)A fix for this 
[11:34] <phillw> tsimonq2: "A fix for this bug has already been requested for Lubuntu default settings" go get your teeth into it :D
[11:53] <tsimonq2> phillw: wait wait wait wait...read your paste...what exactly am I doing? :P
[11:54] <phillw> tsimonq2: confirm that the bug has been squished, or is still there. Kylin say it is fixed.
[11:54] <tsimonq2> phillw: I commented on the bug yesterday with TWO screenshots...
[11:57] <phillw> tsimonq2: I saw, I am subscribed to the bug!!! Every bug I put on the release notes, I subscribe to so that when making the next set of notes I have a reference point of what to chase up. In this case, you do need to chat with bug-team on the devel area, as it is going to be a royal PITA if it is still there for 16.04 LTS.
[11:58] <tsimonq2> alright
[12:00] <tsimonq2> 07:00:19 AM < tsimonq2> Greetings, regarding bug 1530323, I don't know what to do next, and it's affecting Lubuntu, could somebody please take a look at
[12:00] <tsimonq2>                         this bug report and my comments and judge whether it's fixed yet or not? I can't really tell...
[12:00] <tsimonq2> 07:00:20 AM < ubottu> bug 1530323 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear
[12:01] <tsimonq2>                       correctly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1530323
[12:01] <tsimonq2> phillw: that ^
[12:02] <phillw> tsimonq2: quite possibly, this is where bugs should reference similar bugs... there is only so much the bug bot can do to mark duplications
[12:03] <tsimonq2> yeah
[12:03] <phillw> regardless of that... it is a hot bug, and deserves some attention...
[12:04] <tsimonq2> yes I know, nobody has picked it up yet :)
[17:03] <wxl> what about xscreensaver?
[17:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: grumpy maintianers, warning message will be present soon
[17:26] <tsimonq2> a really ugly one
[17:27] <wxl> tsimonq2: hm?
[17:28] <tsimonq2> 12:03:34 PM < wxl> what about xscreensaver?
[17:28] <tsimonq2> that ^
[17:29] <wxl> tsimonq2: elaboration may help me to understand. as it stands, i'm not really worried about grumpy maintainers or a warning emssage, however ugly it may be.
[17:29] <tsimonq2> k, looking up the bug :)
[17:30] <teward> I doubt it's going away here in Xenial at this point in the cycle, no?
[17:30] <tsimonq2> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=819703
[17:30] <tsimonq2> no, but halfway through, I hear
[17:30] <tsimonq2> *shrug*
[17:31] <teward> "in the cycle" as in Xenial ;)
[17:31] <wxl> wow, that sounds totally ignorable
[17:31] <teward> we're still in Xenial cycle
[17:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: but it's not, it gets dramatic
[17:31] <tsimonq2> people get pissed off
[17:31] <wxl> that's their problem XD
[17:31] <tsimonq2> but it affects downstream
[17:32] <tsimonq2> sooooooo
[17:32] <tsimonq2> unless we package it in Ubuntu, we are screwed
[17:32] <wxl> how are we screwed?
[17:32] <tsimonq2> because don't we use xscreensaver?
[17:32] <teward> we're not
[17:32] <tsimonq2> and if we don't package it...
[17:32] <teward> tsimonq2: even if it's removed in Debian, I don't think we autosync removals?
[17:33] <teward> unless something is horribly horribly wrong with the autosyncer
[17:33] <tsimonq2> no, but it goes unmaintained
[17:33] <tsimonq2> unless somebody notices it
[17:33] <teward> can we push your worries into the next devel cycle, perhaps?  At this point in the Xenial cycle it's not helpful to worry about this
[17:33] <teward> there's things that need more attention
[17:34] <wxl> i assume there's no maintainers in ubuntu?
[17:34] <tsimonq2> I understand, but it's a potential security risk if xscreensaver stops being maintained
[17:34] <tsimonq2> uhh I don't think so...
[17:34] <wxl> then you'll need to find some people
[17:34] <wxl> otherwise, there's little that can be done
[17:34] <wxl> good luck :)
[17:34] <tsimonq2> hey, that's MY job? XD
[17:34] <teward> but, lets move that to the next devel cycle
[17:34] <tsimonq2> ^
[17:34] <tsimonq2> probably a good idea
[17:34] <wxl> it's not your job
[17:34] <teward> and focus on getting Xenial completed
[17:34] <tsimonq2> yeah
[17:35] <wxl> but if you care, find the right people to help with it
[17:35] <teward> ^
[17:35] <teward> (that's what happened with the nginx package in server.  and lookit now, it's in main AND maintained regularly throughout development cycles)
[17:35] <tsimonq2> but keep it in mind, it might bite the whole Ubuntu community if nobody gives a shite until it's too late...
[17:35] <wxl> it won't really bite anyone
[17:35] <wxl> nibble at worst
[17:35] <teward> tsimonq2: you and I need to have a talk about 'unnecessary worrying'
[17:35] <wxl> dramatic developers are nothing new
[17:35] <teward> ^
[17:36] <wxl> i'm not about to enable their ridiculousness
[17:36] <tsimonq2>  \o/ alright then
[17:36] <tsimonq2> let's drop it
[17:36] <tsimonq2> so
[17:36] <tsimonq2> I confirmed some bugs yesterday
[17:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: you take a look?
[17:36] <wxl> i did
[17:37] <tsimonq2> except for the whole GTK wired connection editing stuff, which I am waiting to hear back on, I think we are good
[17:37] <tsimonq2> agreed?
[17:37] <wxl> haven't looked that deeply but it looks like you did a lot of heavy lifting
[17:37] <tsimonq2> yeah I confirmed all of them
[17:38] <tsimonq2> made sure they were still presnet
[17:38] <tsimonq2> *present
[17:38] <tsimonq2> well, as much as I could...
[17:38] <tsimonq2> I couldn't confirm stuff like the encryption bugs
[17:38] <wxl> is it me or is pcre the most unsecure piece of software ever?
[17:38] <tsimonq2> (box for it, nothing huge)
[17:38] <teward> wxl: grammarnazi says s/unsecure/insecure/
[17:38] <tsimonq2> !info pcre xenial
[17:38] <tsimonq2> LOL
[17:38] <wxl> siiiiigh
[17:38] <teward> :P
[17:39] <tsimonq2> ^
[17:39]  * tsimonq2 kicks ubot93 
[17:39] <tsimonq2> anyways
[17:39] <teward> wxl: actually had another question, do you have a link to the Rpi images?  I think there's something breaking in MATE, and I want to make sure the RPi images for Lubuntu don't suffer the same fate
[17:40] <wxl> teward: ubuntu-pi-maker.org ?
[17:40] <wxl> is that the right url?
[17:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll try to confirm the ones I didn't yesterday when i get home from school, then I can slap it on a wiki page somewhere
[17:40] <tsimonq2> s/ i / I /
[17:40] <teward> close enough
[17:40] <teward> lol DNS Fail
[17:40] <wxl> !info libpcre3
[17:41] <tsimonq2> OH perl :/
[17:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: you want me to confirm any more bugs while I'm at it?
[17:42] <wxl> not that i can think of off ahnd
[17:42] <teward> urgh torrent-only downloads >.>
[17:42] <wxl> i think phillw hosts them
[17:44] <tsimonq2> let me check
[17:44] <tsimonq2> nope...
[17:45] <phillw> wxl:  tsimonq2 phillw hosts what?
[17:45] <wxl> phillw: pi iamges
[17:46] <tsimonq2> but you don't, right?
[17:46] <teward> wxl: he has a copy i'm wgetting now
[17:46] <teward> tsimonq2: ^
[17:46] <phillw> wxl: flexiondotorg has direct access to the server. That is his department :)
[17:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: tonight I will revise w.u.c/Lubuntu/LXQt and whip up a blog post answering common questions, are you okay with that?
[17:47] <tsimonq2> or do you not want me to do that?
[17:47] <wxl> tsimonq2: sure
[17:47] <tsimonq2> alright, you need me to run it by you first or should I just release?
[17:48] <phillw> he does sftp / scp to the landing area and it is immeadiately available in my iso mirror area :) ... one less task for me :D
[17:48] <tsimonq2> and will the Lubuntu blog reblog it?
[17:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^
[17:49] <phillw> wxl: did you get the letter for bank stuff yet?
[17:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll run through installation tests for Lubuntu tonight, do you need anything else from me? Any extremely trivial bug to fix? Any specific configuration or anything to test?
[17:55] <tsimonq2> well I'm off, let me know :)
[18:03] <phillw> wxl: permission to ping?
[18:12] <phillw> wxl: wow, he's done it again .... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1549529