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oSoMoNMirv, thanks for https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/webbrowser-app/fix_qt56_qdoc_move/+merge/290830 , I commented on it08:51
MirvoSoMoN: likewise08:58
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oSoMoNMirv, FYI: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fix-tabsmodel-ut-qt56/+merge/29086210:19
ogra_hmpf ... using an external BT kbd i cant really change the layout (seems system-settings always resets itself after the initial selection)10:25
MirvoSoMoN: \o/10:34
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ogra_does anyone know where the config for the external keyboard gets stored by system-settings ?13:00
* ogra_ cant change the mapping13:00
ogra_mzanetti, Saviq, does either of you know ?13:08
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* ogra_ would really like to be able to type an "at", a tilde or pipe sign on the external kbdbut apparently teh german layout that is selected now doesnt have alt-gr support :P13:09
mzanettiogra_, accountsservice apparently13:12
mzanettiorg.freedesktop.Accounts.User13:12
mzanettiInputSources13:12
ogra_ok13:12
ogra_i guess that i cant change it after the forst selection is a bug :)13:13
mzanettiyou cant change it any more?13:13
ogra_i have 5 german layouts ... i cant change the order or remove anything ... if i re-open settings it is back to teh five (with "german (macintosh)" selected as default)13:14
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dobeycrikey, it's only been an hour since my phone has been off the charger, and it's already lost 11% of the battery charge :(13:50
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_hchello all, ogra_ sent me here to check in about our (Debian Android Tools Team) new packages for adb, fastboot, etc.  we've stuck to what upstream supports, so they are currently only built on amd64 and i386.  The android-tools source package was ported to build on all Debian archs, including ARM.  we're not porters and we're only on amd64, but we'd love to see these new packages include the porting patches from the android-tools sou15:23
homahi my friends15:32
ogra_ondra, morphis, see _hc above ...15:35
ondra_hc ogra_ hmm strange, adroid-tools defo build fine on arm, I think one part adbd does not build on mips, but that's only limitation I'm aware16:11
ogra_ondra, this is about the debian packages ... they use a different source (to produce the same binaries ...)16:12
ogra_you could theoretically limit ours to adbd and nobody would have to bother with maintaining the desktop side (as we could just regulary sync from debian)16:13
ondraogra_ if they use different source then I can't help much. What we have is also deb, it's same as android-tools you ported16:13
ogra_right16:14
ondraogra_ we need our fstools16:14
ogra_ah16:14
ondraogra_ but you can argue we don't really need adb or fastboot, since they can be takes from AOSP anyway16:14
ogra_well, _hc was asking in #ubuntu-devel ... seems the debian packages are just getting synced to ubuntu16:14
ondraogra_ we don't modify it in any way16:14
ogra_ubuntu-device-flash uses adb and fastboot16:15
ogra_as well as phablet-shell16:15
ogra_and teh autopilot tests16:15
ogra_afai they all depend on teh bainary packages16:15
ondraogra_ but no reason they cannot use AOSP build adb and fastboot16:15
ogra_all i know is that our binary packages have added udev rules to recognize the ubuntu devices16:15
ogra_ondra, sure, if you want to package that :P16:16
ondraogra_ so it's more dependency to make sure there is adb on the machine, but binary wise it could be as well clean aosp build16:16
ondraogra_ no thank you :P16:16
ogra_heh16:16
ondraogra_ I think we should be able to keep updating it now, it's relatively clean now, we do minimum changes on top of AOSP code16:17
ogra_remember we are talking about endusers that possibly want to recover a broken device ... cant really bother them to do a native AOSP install for that16:17
ondraogra_ so I can once in a while rebase it to latest AOSP16:17
ogra_so there need to be packages16:17
ondraogra_ yeah agree that step "install Android studio" to recovery Ubuntu phone sounds bad16:17
cwaynepopey, happy birthday!16:18
ogra_it would be less work for us to have the debian ones .. but they would have to cover all arches and add our udev rules16:18
ogra__hc, would that be possible ?16:18
popeythanks cwayne :)16:19
ogra_anyway, i'm just the messenger here, all up to you guys :)16:19
ogra_popey, hey old fart ... happy birthday !16:19
ondraogra_ to be honest, now it's not much work anymore, I set makefiles way that adb and fastboot compile clean without any change, just drop aosp code in16:19
ondrapopey happy birthday mate!16:20
ondraogra_ messenger who knows more than receiving party :P16:20
ogra_ondra, sure, all up to you, we just have duplicated binary packages now16:20
ogra_(i doubt thats an issue though)16:21
ogra_(the debian ones are slightly differently named)16:21
plarsondra: around?16:21
_hcondra: ogra_: we built the whole SDK close to how Google builds it.  It should be possible to port all the packages to ARM, its just a matter of finding the bulid issues and fixing them.  ANd keep in mind, Google doesn't build adb, fastboot, etc on anything but amd64 and i38616:22
ondraogra_ happy to drop adb and fastboot then, if we know debian ones are kept up to date16:22
plarsondra: havin some trouble with the new udf/adb and rc-proposed - it seems to install ok, but can't adb to the device after. It just shows up in 'unauthorized' state16:22
ondra_hc so I did build abd and fastboot on arm, from android-tools16:23
_hcondra: if you are happy with adb and fastboot only on amd64/i386, you can drop android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot now16:23
_hcondra: I imagine why it builds easy for you is that the android-tools package just took the source code needed for those exact binaries16:23
_hcwe're building the libs16:23
_hcand linking to them16:24
ondra_hc I don't have arm desktop, so not a problem for me, but may be somebody else?16:24
_hcsomeone from linaro was complaining loudly that our pacakges do not support ARM, let me dig up the reference16:24
ondraplars are you sure you have latest u-d-f?16:24
ondra_hc yeah I only picked to compile code needed for adb and fastboot16:24
plarsondra: 0.33-0ubuntu1~xenial-staging - is that correct?16:25
plarsondra: pulled from the sdk ppa16:25
plars...for trusty, oddly enough16:25
plarsI'm guessing it's just a copy of the xenial package, but then I had to get some of the deps from the snappy-dev ppa, because they were missing16:26
ondraplars you can check by running $ u-d-f touch -help16:26
ondraplars do you see there --adb-keys=?16:26
plarsondra: yes16:26
ondraplars and did you do u-d-f --bootstrap?16:26
plarsondra: yes16:26
ondraplars because you need to make sure you have latest recovery on the device16:27
ondraplars what device?16:27
plarsondra: it's actually a job that alesage is running, as well as others who have devices in ci16:27
plarsondra: krillin so far, I don't know if anyone has tried arale or others yet16:27
plarsalesage: was that also a krillin you confirmed this on at home?16:27
ondraplars so I'd say, try to re-run it once more, to make sure you are using right recovery16:27
alesageondra where can I find the right recovery16:28
ondraalesage if you run it once, you have it now installed16:28
plarsondra: is there a new recovery we need to use during the bootstrap? normally we need to specify an old on with --recovery-image16:28
ondraalesage it's always issue with ota, which needs latest recovery, we don't have process there to install recovery and then reboot to do rest of ota16:29
ondraplars alesage right recovery should be in the rc-proposed device tarball, but when you  run u-d-f, you would typically use old recovery already installed on the device16:30
_hcondra: here's the disussion https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=81782316:30
ubot5`Debian bug 817823 in ftp.debian.org "RM: android-libcutils android-libcutils-dev android-liblog android-liblog-dev [arm64 armel armhf mips mips64el mipsel powerpc ppc64el s390x] -- ANAIS; old binaries in architectures not allowed anymore" [Normal,Open]16:30
ondraplars alesage let me test krillin here, I did run u-d-f on it this morning, so it has "supposedly" latest recovery16:30
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ondraplars alesage yeah re-run it pls, I just run it here ( with --wipe --developer-mode) and it's pre-authorised16:39
plarsondra: it looks like he was running this in the job I can see:16:40
plarsubuntu-device-flash touch --serial=JB010894 --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --device krillin --developer-mode --password=0000 --recovery-image /var/lib/jenkins/slaves/krillin-02/workspace/ust_rc-proposed_krillin_sanity_PT/recovery.img --wipe --bootstrap16:41
ondraplars right so there is the issue16:41
plarsondra: what's that?16:41
ondraplars  /var/lib/jenkins/slaves/krillin-02/workspace/ust_rc-proposed_krillin_sanity_PT/recovery.img16:41
plarsondra: that's the old recovery image used for flashing16:41
plarsondra: you said that was ok, right?16:41
ondraplars I bet you this recovery has no adb-key provisioning support16:41
plarsondra: indeed, it certainly would not16:42
ondraplars that is good to flash, but it will not provision adb-keyts16:42
plarsondra: so we need a new recovery, that is not locked down16:42
plarsondra: where can we get such a thing from?16:42
ondraplars then sorry for confusion, you need new recovery16:42
ondraplars you want just new recovery with adb enabled?16:43
plarsondra: yes16:43
ondraplars if you do not need adb, you can just unpack it from latest device tarball16:43
plarsondra: no, I need adb16:43
ondraplars otherwise john-mcaleely build new one with adb enabled16:43
ondraplars let me look for it16:43
davmor2ondra: please give it to john-mcaleely to replace his version so all the documentation we have spread all over the universe is still correct many thanks16:43
plarsondra: nobody can touch these devices easily16:43
ondradavmor2 he already did, I just need to find it :)16:44
davmor2ondra: I assume the same place16:44
ondradavmor2 plars http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery-krillin-5891faa.img16:45
davmor2oh ugly names16:45
ondradavmor2 plars and vegeta http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery-vegetahd-5891faa.img16:45
ondradavmor2 I think that's git hash16:45
davmor2ondra: oh hang on john-mcaleely has already been wonderful the time stamps on the recovery-krillin.img are the same as the 589.... version I assum that means he has updated it16:47
davmor2ondra: same md5sum too :D16:50
ondradavmor2 yep, he's very organised! :)16:51
plarsondra: do you have one for arale?16:54
ondraplars nope, you will have to ask alextu16:54
plarsalesage: want to rekick your job with that new recovery image?16:54
ondraplars yeah there is none on his people page16:55
plarsondra: ack, thanks16:56
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mariogripmhall119: ping17:01
ogra_ondra, _hc, i for one use armhf devices a lot for flashing other devices (and with convergence there will likely be more people doing that) ... so armhf should be done at least17:06
ondraogra_ which when you spin it around means arm64, since there won't be that many arm32 anymore.....17:07
mariogrippopey: btw, I have a bq devices that is not in use atm, I could set it up as a Marvin device if that's possible17:07
ogra_arm64, powerpc or s390 are probably not that important (though please leave the packages arch: any, so if someone wants to port he can pick up there)17:07
mhall119mariogrip: pong17:07
ogra_ondra, well, if my testing broker is a raspberry pi 2 i wont run arm6417:08
mariogripmhall119: are we having the call today, or move it to Wednesday when kees have time?17:09
ogra_and thinnking about it we might want/need fastboot on arm64 for snappy in case we do a local flash of bootloader bits17:09
mhall119mariogrip: we can do both if you have any updates for today, otherwise we can just move it to wednesday17:09
mariogripmhall119: I have nothing major news since last call17:12
dobeymariogrip: you got bt working? ;)17:13
mariogripPortcraft got kernel support, oneplus x got wifi and oneplus one got battery/heat fixes17:13
mariogripdobey: awww, sorry not yet :(17:13
ogra_ondra, so thinking about it i think we should just keep our existing packages even if that measn some cuplication17:14
ogra_*duplication17:14
dobeymariogrip: ooh, battery/heat fixes? wonder if they are also applicable to n5? battery has been really bad as of late for me, and the phone always seems excessively hot17:14
mariogripdobey: Yeah, it seems like it's the android side that is killing the battery (same as oneplus one), so I'll try if it works on n5 also17:16
dobeycool17:16
dobeyi hope it does :)17:16
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mhall119mariogrip: I'll go ahead and move it17:19
mariogripmhall119: ack17:20
mariogripmhall119: does skype work on linux?17:26
mariogripmhall119: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/skype-for-linux-group-calls-need-to-update-issue17:27
dobeymariogrip: should, but possibly not the latest version17:27
davmor2dobey: iirc the latest version is not compatible with the version currently available for linux there was a big hoohar about it17:28
dobeydavmor2: right17:28
mariogripyeah, i guess we can join, but can we join if someone has windows?17:29
dobeyso the linux version "works" but it doesn't "work"17:29
dobeymariogrip: if they use the really old version of skype that matches the linux version, i guess it would be fine17:29
mhall119mariogrip: no idea17:29
mhall119I hope they can do hangouts17:29
dobeybut if they have latest skype on osx/win, i guess it will cause problems17:29
mariogripyeah17:29
dobeyhangouts at least does work on pretty much everything though17:30
mariogripSkype should make an html5 version17:30
mariogripor open there api17:31
dobeygood luck with getting MS to do that :)17:31
mariogripthey "love" linux now, so why not :P17:31
* davmor2 points dobey to all the recent mit stuff they have been releasing stuff under, and points out this is mostly because they make more suing android builders than making windows17:32
dobeydavmor2: uhm; "all the recent mit stuff" ?17:33
dobeyyou mean mono? which was originally under MIT anyway?17:33
dobeypretty sure IE is not MIT licensed :)17:34
mariogripspeaking about android, how about runnin the android skype client on chrome with ARC17:34
dobeygo for it17:34
dobeyanyone else notice that ssh (over wifi) to the phone is incredibly slow?18:00
dobeyseems a bit faster with screen unlocked though18:03
dobeyhmm, or just while the screen stays on even18:13
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_hcogra_: ondra: we're happy to accept patches to get all the Android Tools Team packages running on any arch, we just don't have the time or resources to do it ourselves19:25
plarsondra: I did see this fly by in recovery.log as it was installing: "Keyring doesn't exist: device-signing"19:28
plarsondra: here's a full log: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/buVavnCX/19:28
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* dobey hopes mariogrip's opo battery fix is applicable to n5 too20:03
mariogripdobey: :)20:06
dobeymariogrip: have you had a chance to try it?20:07
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mariogripdobey: not yet21:29

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