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mappsmorning04:44
mappsany night owls still around;]04:44
knightWorkmornin peeps07:13
dwatkinsallo allo07:17
knightWorkhey dwatkins , how are you   ?07:19
MooDoomorning all07:44
knightWorkhey MooDoo :) How are you today dude07:46
MooDooknightWork: hols in a week, so getting better :D07:46
knightWorkI"m leaving for the coast of france on wednesday for a couple of days of RR07:47
MooDooknightWork: we'll be in paris or there abouts.07:48
knightWorkMooDoo: i'll be near calais07:50
MooDoonice, :)07:50
knightWorkhttps://www.google.be/maps/place/Cap+Blanc+Nez/@50.9254316,1.6981468,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47dc3ca29e35c6b7:0xf3432f38c815d345?hl=en07:50
knightWorkyou can see the little camp site just south of the peak07:51
MooDoolovely07:51
knightWorkNo wifi , no 3g , just some music, some books, a lot of walkies and some tea07:51
zmoylan-1iand a hard drive strapped to your leg with 2tb of cat videos... :-P07:52
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knightWorkLOL :)07:53
knightWorkcouple of books and some movies07:53
knightWorkprobably gonna take carl sagans COSMOS with ut07:53
knightWorks07:53
zmoylan-piwatched that for the first time since i saw it when it was first shown a few years back.  i liked the new version but no one was as good at inspiring wonder as sagan07:54
knightWorkCarl can read me the phonebook and i'll still love it07:57
knightWorkhis voice is .. magnifficent07:57
zmoylan-pithe songs people have made with his talks are on my mp3 player...07:58
knightWorkzmoylan-pi: now i'm curious !07:58
zmoylan-pihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc07:59
knightWork Awesome ! :)08:00
davmor2Morning all08:03
knightWork https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBkZPyfpdE&list=RD1HBkZPyfpdE#t=008:04
knightWorkAn entire symphony08:04
knightWorkWhow, I realy like this ...08:08
zmoylan-piand for lift relief there's always the universe song.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4uCWtQE2408:09
davmor2hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy deer popey, hippo birdy 2 ewes08:17
knightWorkOh crap zmoylan-pi you have shown me something now08:25
knightWorki appear to be hooked08:25
knightWorkpopey: ... birthday ?08:43
popeyThanks :)08:58
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy World Rat Day! 😃  🐀08:58
zmoylan-pisqueak?09:01
popeyOh, interestingly I was born in the year of the rat too09:03
* knightWork remembers Roland Rat !09:06
zmoylan-pistainless steel rat for president o/09:06
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:20
knightWorkhey brobostigon09:22
brobostigonhi knightWork09:24
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:36
bigcalmpopey: do you want to add to the RAT date poll before I close it?09:37
brobostigonmorning bigcalm09:38
bigcalmo/09:38
brobostigono/09:38
bigcalm\o09:39
ujjainLet go troating about with big group of people, better off with small group  < does this phrase make sense? what is troating about?09:51
SuperMattujjain: no.09:54
ujjainah htanks09:55
SuperMattthat's possibly one of the least sensicle sentances I've ever read, and I've read my own drunk texts09:55
ujjainah ok, it makes sense in my head though09:56
knightWorkU gave no idea what troating is , but it sound like something you might search for on pornhub09:58
knightWorku gave = i have09:58
SuperMattI looked it up, and it means to call out loudly09:58
SuperMattor something similar09:58
popeybigcalm: intentionally not done because I don't know when i can make it10:05
davmor2JamesTait: this seems very appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc10:07
ujjainhahahah10:09
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, SSR, wasn't that one of the old 16-bit hacker crews?10:23
zmoylan-piit's a serious of books about stainless steel rat, a criminal in far future... first ones are quite good... for their time... but i still like them10:25
bigcalmpopey: okay. I'll close the poll and hopefully you'll be able to attend :)10:25
zmoylan-piwas also in 2000ad as a multipart story10:25
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, you learn something new every day.... 😉10:27
zmoylan-piwouldn't be suprised if a hacker group took the name10:28
bigcalmUbuntu UK loco Real Ale Train | 10th September 2016 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/10:33
bigcalmpopey: ^10:33
bigcalm!rat10:36
lubotu3rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 19th September 2015 Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3040-real-ale-train-2015/10:36
bigcalmNow to try and remember how to get that changed10:36
popeyyay10:37
popey!no, rat is <reply> rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/10:38
davmor2zmoylan-pi: one up on me, I only know of Roland Rat Superstar yeeeeeeah10:43
zmoylan-piit's finest moment is when on a world with massive intrusive surveillance he describes how useless it is as the amount of people required to monitor and then monitor the monitors quicky becomes unmanageable and pointless.10:46
zmoylan-piit always stuck with me10:46
knightWorkzmoylan-pi: Roland Rat said that ?11:00
zmoylan-pistainless steel rat11:01
zmoylan-piroland wasn't such a philosopher...11:01
davmor2roland rat was the fonz in rat form :D11:07
knightWorkand who / from what universe is stainless steel rat ?11:09
knightWorkdavmor2: agreed !11:09
knightWorkHe was the Gordon-the-gopher-with-streetsmarts11:09
MooDoodavmor2: you a ratfan as well then? ;)11:10
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat11:11
knightWorkzmoylan-pi: yet another thing you have taught me today11:13
zmoylan-pithey have dated and last 3 books are terrible imo.  but i still love the books11:14
zmoylan-pithe first sci fi book i bought new was a stainless steel rat book i bought on long trip to london in early 80s to keep me amused11:15
knightWorkCurrently reading "ready player one" and taking some doctorrow books with me to the beach next weekend.11:19
popeybigcalm: nice one!11:41
bigcalmpopey: one what?11:53
knightWorkpub crawl11:57
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popeyya12:05
popeybeer train12:05
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knightWorkO/ L@Ne3y !12:08
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knightWorkso l33t, Much W0w12:08
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zmoylan-pii dunno, i miss Guest76158...12:11
knightWorkI realy had a personal bond with Guest7615812:14
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bigcalmThe one time I get retweeted by an old school Linux bod, and it's a tweet about beer13:17
* bigcalm giggles quietly to himself13:17
bigcalmI wonder if Alan Cocks would joint the RAT13:18
popeyit's not who you think it is13:18
bigcalmBah13:25
bigcalmCox not Cocks13:25
zmoylan-pihumbug?13:25
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diddledanbigcalm! pervert!14:28
diddledan(I just saw the Cox not Cocks comment and assumed :-p)14:29
bigcalmprivet14:29
davmor2bigcalm: don't be calling diddledan a hedge14:31
foobarryhas anyone tried an ISP parental filter and managed to get more than domain level blocks?14:38
foobarrye.g. reddit works but NSFW subreddits dont14:39
davmor2foobarry: I think they are basically all just domain blocking tools14:42
foobarry:(14:45
foobarryi wonder if youtube and iplayer are blocked too then :S14:45
davmor2foobarry: possibly14:46
daftykinsi just opened my office window for the first time this year D:15:08
mallarddaftykins: and in a couple of months you'll shut it again because wasps will fly in15:16
daftykinsnah not here :P15:17
* davmor2 deposits a wasps nest outside daftykins 15:42
daftykins:O15:42
daftykinsif i see a ladder i shall shout your nickname15:42
* zmoylan-pi posts queen bee to daftykins as an inside job...15:43
davmor2zmoylan-pi: nice he'll blame me thinking it is a wasp :D15:48
zmoylan-pithe bee will wear a wasp disguise...15:48
bigcalm!rat15:49
lubotu3rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/15:49
davmor2zmoylan-pi: and I can hand on heart swear in court it wasn't me in my shaggy-est impression possible15:49
zmoylan-pisee, plausible deniability...15:50
daftykinsdavmor2: you'll get a scare if you look up how old that track is!15:51
daftykinscame up on the radio and the guy said the year, 1998 i think15:51
davmor2daftykins: pffff 98 3 of the songs forever getting into my head recently are all along the watchtower, house of the rising sun and stairway to heaven look up those dates you want scary15:53
daftykins;) that was before my time15:54
* zmoylan-pi has 1-2 tunes on mp3 player that my mother liked dating from the 30s...15:54
daftykinsstill a fan though! except less so of the animals15:55
zmoylan-piand you can't go wrong with lili marlene... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56QzGcAKZc15:58
davmor2zmoylan-pi: glenn miller in the mood, little brown jug and Chattanooga Choo Choo15:58
zmoylan-pifor the modern 40s stuff, yeah... :-)15:58
davmor2zmoylan-pi: 30's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVMCzDmcFY16:01
zmoylan-pithis is the song i always remember my mother humming as she cooked in kitchen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3G1DZmTCQ16:03
davmor2zmoylan-pi: you poor man ;)16:04
zmoylan-pinot really, usually meant she making something special... breads, cakes, roasts...16:07
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awilkinsHow do I raise the DPI on Xenial?18:07
awilkinsJust got a shiny new SuperDuperHD laptop and the text in this window is reeeeely teensy18:08
daftykinssettings -> monitors18:09
daftykinsdrag the slider18:09
awilkinsAha18:10
awilkinsAha18:10
awilkinsHmm, maybe I need to restart the apps18:10
awilkinsBecause this one is rendering the new large text in the teensy box :-)18:11
awilkinsOK, that seems to work.18:15
daftykinsyip always need a log out + in to confirm18:15
awilkins1.5 might be a bit high18:16
awilkinsMight try 1.3 or 1.4, this is a 1440 screen and I like 1080 fine18:17
awilkins1.38 seems OK18:18
daftykinswhich machine did you get? i'm just finalising one of the Dell XPS 13 models with a 1080p panel for someone, i expect to be told the text is too tiny the second i hand it over - so 1.25x will likely be the answer then18:18
awilkinsLenovo t460s18:18
daftykinsi would've thought an even multiplier makes sense18:18
awilkinsIt's really really attractive hardware18:19
awilkinsKeyboard's lovely (don't get the backlit ones, I'm told they are considerably less lovely)18:19
awilkinsI got the low end model apart from the screen, WiFi, and smartcard reader18:20
awilkinsNot paying £300 for a CPU that has a tray price $110 higher than the base model18:20
awilkinsNot paying over the odds for RAM and M.2 NVMe drives18:21
daftykinsif you run Linux you'd have issues with the latter anywho18:21
awilkinsWhat, NVMe?18:22
daftykinsyep18:22
awilkinsWhat's the issues?18:22
daftykinstake the Dell XPS13, the BIOS is set to RAID for intel's RST (rapid storage tech.) right now, so if you boot 16.04 beta 2, you don't even see a storage device to install to18:23
awilkinsOh, that18:23
awilkinsYeah, I had to do that to the Windows laptop my ex-job shipped me.18:23
daftykinsyou can change it to AHCI sure, but then that runs the old style and defeats the benefits18:23
awilkinsHmm.18:24
awilkins1.38 scale keeps Firefox in teensy mode18:24
awilkins1.5 seems to make it scale up18:24
daftykinstried 1.25?18:24
awilkinsNot tried 1.2518:24
awilkinsWill have a go18:25
awilkinsteensy mode18:25
awilkinsGuess I can make it scale by setting the zoom level18:26
daftykins:S18:26
daftykinsspeaks of a bigger issue really, what did you install on there? 15.10?18:26
awilkins.... except it doesn't seem to stick per session18:27
awilkinsXenial18:27
daftykinsah good good18:27
daftykinsso close now it makes sense :>18:27
daftykinsin fact my bad, you did say18:27
awilkinsNot considered trying Mir / Unity 8 yet18:30
davmor2awilkins: dell default to 2 which makes everything look the size of a window on a 1080 monitor however the scaling will also affect any monitor you plug it into which makes it look ugly as hell on lower res external monitor18:49
daftykinsyay a working openVPN setup on the pfsense embedded router now, that'll let me get in for maintenance etc. to Spain from anywhere else20:28
velusunivers-syshello if i want to cp a folder to multiple folders how would i do this woudl it be cp -R bin {regions11,regions12.....}22:57
ali1234i once had to do that. i tarred the directory, pipe to tee, then untar it in multiple places22:58
velusunivers-sys?22:59
velusunivers-sysits not tared its just one working folder to be put into many, its something that is needed, i have one directory that is for the build and the other directorys are the workign ones and its an unfortunate c# program23:00
ali1234so tar it23:00
daftykinshow many destination folders do you intend to copy to?23:00
velusunivers-sys523:01
velusunivers-sysi dont want to tar it23:01
velusunivers-sysit would confuse me too much23:01
daftykinsi just had a test and i can't see a way to do it, so ali's suggestion will have to do - otherwise just get it done23:01
velusunivers-sysill have to do it manually23:02
daftykinsyep23:02
ali1234yeah there's no other way to do it other than by serializing the directory and duplicating it with pipes23:02
ali1234or just copy it multiple times23:02
daftykinsweirdly when i typed "copy file test1 test2" it only copied to test2 and not test123:03
daftykinsthough that was until i re-read the idea was a folder not file23:03
ali1234for a file: cat file | tee file1 > file223:04
daftykinsah har23:04
ndfman xargs23:04
ali1234for directories it's the same, but tarring the directory and untarring it in each place you want a copy23:04
ali1234the important point here is the source only gets read once. i needed to copy a file from a server and make two local copies on different hard drives, and i only had enough time to write one copy to each disk, not read it back23:05
ali1234so i had to use tee to make the copy while the data was in flight, before writing it23:06
ali1234chances are you do not need to do this and can just do it the slow way23:06
daftykinschances are users are lazy :<23:08
diddledanonly a chance? I thought that was guaranteed23:12
daftykins:D23:13

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