[04:44] <mapps> morning
[04:44] <mapps> any night owls still around;]
[07:13] <knightWork> mornin peeps
[07:17] <dwatkins> allo allo
[07:19] <knightWork> hey dwatkins , how are you   ?
[07:44] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:46] <knightWork> hey MooDoo :) How are you today dude
[07:46] <MooDoo> knightWork: hols in a week, so getting better :D
[07:47] <knightWork> I"m leaving for the coast of france on wednesday for a couple of days of RR
[07:48] <MooDoo> knightWork: we'll be in paris or there abouts.
[07:50] <knightWork> MooDoo: i'll be near calais
[07:50] <MooDoo> nice, :)
[07:50] <knightWork> https://www.google.be/maps/place/Cap+Blanc+Nez/@50.9254316,1.6981468,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47dc3ca29e35c6b7:0xf3432f38c815d345?hl=en
[07:51] <knightWork> you can see the little camp site just south of the peak
[07:51] <MooDoo> lovely
[07:51] <knightWork> No wifi , no 3g , just some music, some books, a lot of walkies and some tea
[07:52] <zmoylan-1i> and a hard drive strapped to your leg with 2tb of cat videos... :-P
[07:53] <knightWork> LOL :)
[07:53] <knightWork> couple of books and some movies
[07:53] <knightWork> probably gonna take carl sagans COSMOS with ut
[07:53] <knightWork> s
[07:54] <zmoylan-pi> watched that for the first time since i saw it when it was first shown a few years back.  i liked the new version but no one was as good at inspiring wonder as sagan
[07:57] <knightWork> Carl can read me the phonebook and i'll still love it
[07:57] <knightWork> his voice is .. magnifficent
[07:58] <zmoylan-pi> the songs people have made with his talks are on my mp3 player...
[07:58] <knightWork> zmoylan-pi: now i'm curious !
[07:59] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc
[08:00] <knightWork>  Awesome ! :)
[08:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:04] <knightWork>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBkZPyfpdE&list=RD1HBkZPyfpdE#t=0
[08:04] <knightWork> An entire symphony
[08:08] <knightWork> Whow, I realy like this ...
[08:09] <zmoylan-pi> and for lift relief there's always the universe song.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4uCWtQE24
[08:17] <davmor2> hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy deer popey, hippo birdy 2 ewes
[08:25] <knightWork> Oh crap zmoylan-pi you have shown me something now
[08:25] <knightWork> i appear to be hooked
[08:43] <knightWork> popey: ... birthday ?
[08:58] <popey> Thanks :)
[08:58] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy World Rat Day! 😃  🐀
[09:01] <zmoylan-pi> squeak?
[09:03] <popey> Oh, interestingly I was born in the year of the rat too
[09:06]  * knightWork remembers Roland Rat !
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> stainless steel rat for president o/
[09:20] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:22] <knightWork> hey brobostigon
[09:24] <brobostigon> hi knightWork
[09:36] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:37] <bigcalm> popey: do you want to add to the RAT date poll before I close it?
[09:38] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[09:38] <bigcalm> o/
[09:38] <brobostigon> o/
[09:39] <bigcalm> \o
[09:51] <ujjain> Let go troating about with big group of people, better off with small group  < does this phrase make sense? what is troating about?
[09:54] <SuperMatt> ujjain: no.
[09:55] <ujjain> ah htanks
[09:55] <SuperMatt> that's possibly one of the least sensicle sentances I've ever read, and I've read my own drunk texts
[09:56] <ujjain> ah ok, it makes sense in my head though
[09:58] <knightWork> U gave no idea what troating is , but it sound like something you might search for on pornhub
[09:58] <knightWork> u gave = i have
[09:58] <SuperMatt> I looked it up, and it means to call out loudly
[09:58] <SuperMatt> or something similar
[10:05] <popey> bigcalm: intentionally not done because I don't know when i can make it
[10:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: this seems very appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc
[10:09] <ujjain> hahahah
[10:23] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, SSR, wasn't that one of the old 16-bit hacker crews?
[10:25] <zmoylan-pi> it's a serious of books about stainless steel rat, a criminal in far future... first ones are quite good... for their time... but i still like them
[10:25] <bigcalm> popey: okay. I'll close the poll and hopefully you'll be able to attend :)
[10:25] <zmoylan-pi> was also in 2000ad as a multipart story
[10:27] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, you learn something new every day.... 😉
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't be suprised if a hacker group took the name
[10:33] <bigcalm> Ubuntu UK loco Real Ale Train | 10th September 2016 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/
[10:33] <bigcalm> popey: ^
[10:36] <bigcalm> !rat
[10:36] <bigcalm> Now to try and remember how to get that changed
[10:37] <popey> yay
[10:38] <popey> !no, rat is <reply> rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/
[10:43] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: one up on me, I only know of Roland Rat Superstar yeeeeeeah
[10:46] <zmoylan-pi> it's finest moment is when on a world with massive intrusive surveillance he describes how useless it is as the amount of people required to monitor and then monitor the monitors quicky becomes unmanageable and pointless.
[10:46] <zmoylan-pi> it always stuck with me
[11:00] <knightWork> zmoylan-pi: Roland Rat said that ?
[11:01] <zmoylan-pi> stainless steel rat
[11:01] <zmoylan-pi> roland wasn't such a philosopher...
[11:07] <davmor2> roland rat was the fonz in rat form :D
[11:09] <knightWork> and who / from what universe is stainless steel rat ?
[11:09] <knightWork> davmor2: agreed !
[11:09] <knightWork> He was the Gordon-the-gopher-with-streetsmarts
[11:10] <MooDoo> davmor2: you a ratfan as well then? ;)
[11:11] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat
[11:13] <knightWork> zmoylan-pi: yet another thing you have taught me today
[11:14] <zmoylan-pi> they have dated and last 3 books are terrible imo.  but i still love the books
[11:15] <zmoylan-pi> the first sci fi book i bought new was a stainless steel rat book i bought on long trip to london in early 80s to keep me amused
[11:19] <knightWork> Currently reading "ready player one" and taking some doctorrow books with me to the beach next weekend.
[11:41] <popey> bigcalm: nice one!
[11:53] <bigcalm> popey: one what?
[11:57] <knightWork> pub crawl
[12:05] <popey> ya
[12:05] <popey> beer train
[12:08] <knightWork> O/ L@Ne3y !
[12:08] <knightWork> so l33t, Much W0w
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> i dunno, i miss Guest76158...
[12:14] <knightWork> I realy had a personal bond with Guest76158
[13:17] <bigcalm> The one time I get retweeted by an old school Linux bod, and it's a tweet about beer
[13:17]  * bigcalm giggles quietly to himself
[13:18] <bigcalm> I wonder if Alan Cocks would joint the RAT
[13:18] <popey> it's not who you think it is
[13:25] <bigcalm> Bah
[13:25] <bigcalm> Cox not Cocks
[13:25] <zmoylan-pi> humbug?
[14:28] <diddledan> bigcalm! pervert!
[14:29] <diddledan> (I just saw the Cox not Cocks comment and assumed :-p)
[14:29] <bigcalm> privet
[14:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: don't be calling diddledan a hedge
[14:38] <foobarry> has anyone tried an ISP parental filter and managed to get more than domain level blocks?
[14:39] <foobarry> e.g. reddit works but NSFW subreddits dont
[14:42] <davmor2> foobarry: I think they are basically all just domain blocking tools
[14:45] <foobarry> :(
[14:45] <foobarry> i wonder if youtube and iplayer are blocked too then :S
[14:46] <davmor2> foobarry: possibly
[15:08] <daftykins> i just opened my office window for the first time this year D:
[15:16] <mallard> daftykins: and in a couple of months you'll shut it again because wasps will fly in
[15:17] <daftykins> nah not here :P
[15:42]  * davmor2 deposits a wasps nest outside daftykins 
[15:42] <daftykins> :O
[15:42] <daftykins> if i see a ladder i shall shout your nickname
[15:43]  * zmoylan-pi posts queen bee to daftykins as an inside job...
[15:48] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: nice he'll blame me thinking it is a wasp :D
[15:48] <zmoylan-pi> the bee will wear a wasp disguise...
[15:49] <bigcalm> !rat
[15:49] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: and I can hand on heart swear in court it wasn't me in my shaggy-est impression possible
[15:50] <zmoylan-pi> see, plausible deniability...
[15:51] <daftykins> davmor2: you'll get a scare if you look up how old that track is!
[15:51] <daftykins> came up on the radio and the guy said the year, 1998 i think
[15:53] <davmor2> daftykins: pffff 98 3 of the songs forever getting into my head recently are all along the watchtower, house of the rising sun and stairway to heaven look up those dates you want scary
[15:54] <daftykins> ;) that was before my time
[15:54]  * zmoylan-pi has 1-2 tunes on mp3 player that my mother liked dating from the 30s...
[15:55] <daftykins> still a fan though! except less so of the animals
[15:58] <zmoylan-pi> and you can't go wrong with lili marlene... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56QzGcAKZc
[15:58] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: glenn miller in the mood, little brown jug and Chattanooga Choo Choo
[15:58] <zmoylan-pi> for the modern 40s stuff, yeah... :-)
[16:01] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: 30's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVMCzDmcFY
[16:03] <zmoylan-pi> this is the song i always remember my mother humming as she cooked in kitchen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3G1DZmTCQ
[16:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: you poor man ;)
[16:07] <zmoylan-pi> not really, usually meant she making something special... breads, cakes, roasts...
[18:07] <awilkins> How do I raise the DPI on Xenial?
[18:08] <awilkins> Just got a shiny new SuperDuperHD laptop and the text in this window is reeeeely teensy
[18:09] <daftykins> settings -> monitors
[18:09] <daftykins> drag the slider
[18:10] <awilkins> Aha
[18:10] <awilkins> Aha
[18:10] <awilkins> Hmm, maybe I need to restart the apps
[18:11] <awilkins> Because this one is rendering the new large text in the teensy box :-)
[18:15] <awilkins> OK, that seems to work.
[18:15] <daftykins> yip always need a log out + in to confirm
[18:16] <awilkins> 1.5 might be a bit high
[18:17] <awilkins> Might try 1.3 or 1.4, this is a 1440 screen and I like 1080 fine
[18:18] <awilkins> 1.38 seems OK
[18:18] <daftykins> which machine did you get? i'm just finalising one of the Dell XPS 13 models with a 1080p panel for someone, i expect to be told the text is too tiny the second i hand it over - so 1.25x will likely be the answer then
[18:18] <awilkins> Lenovo t460s
[18:18] <daftykins> i would've thought an even multiplier makes sense
[18:19] <awilkins> It's really really attractive hardware
[18:19] <awilkins> Keyboard's lovely (don't get the backlit ones, I'm told they are considerably less lovely)
[18:20] <awilkins> I got the low end model apart from the screen, WiFi, and smartcard reader
[18:20] <awilkins> Not paying £300 for a CPU that has a tray price $110 higher than the base model
[18:21] <awilkins> Not paying over the odds for RAM and M.2 NVMe drives
[18:21] <daftykins> if you run Linux you'd have issues with the latter anywho
[18:22] <awilkins> What, NVMe?
[18:22] <daftykins> yep
[18:22] <awilkins> What's the issues?
[18:23] <daftykins> take the Dell XPS13, the BIOS is set to RAID for intel's RST (rapid storage tech.) right now, so if you boot 16.04 beta 2, you don't even see a storage device to install to
[18:23] <awilkins> Oh, that
[18:23] <awilkins> Yeah, I had to do that to the Windows laptop my ex-job shipped me.
[18:23] <daftykins> you can change it to AHCI sure, but then that runs the old style and defeats the benefits
[18:24] <awilkins> Hmm.
[18:24] <awilkins> 1.38 scale keeps Firefox in teensy mode
[18:24] <awilkins> 1.5 seems to make it scale up
[18:24] <daftykins> tried 1.25?
[18:24] <awilkins> Not tried 1.25
[18:25] <awilkins> Will have a go
[18:25] <awilkins> teensy mode
[18:26] <awilkins> Guess I can make it scale by setting the zoom level
[18:26] <daftykins> :S
[18:26] <daftykins> speaks of a bigger issue really, what did you install on there? 15.10?
[18:27] <awilkins> .... except it doesn't seem to stick per session
[18:27] <awilkins> Xenial
[18:27] <daftykins> ah good good
[18:27] <daftykins> so close now it makes sense :>
[18:27] <daftykins> in fact my bad, you did say
[18:30] <awilkins> Not considered trying Mir / Unity 8 yet
[18:49] <davmor2> awilkins: dell default to 2 which makes everything look the size of a window on a 1080 monitor however the scaling will also affect any monitor you plug it into which makes it look ugly as hell on lower res external monitor
[20:28] <daftykins> yay a working openVPN setup on the pfsense embedded router now, that'll let me get in for maintenance etc. to Spain from anywhere else
[22:57] <velusunivers-sys> hello if i want to cp a folder to multiple folders how would i do this woudl it be cp -R bin {regions11,regions12.....}
[22:58] <ali1234> i once had to do that. i tarred the directory, pipe to tee, then untar it in multiple places
[22:59] <velusunivers-sys> ?
[23:00] <velusunivers-sys> its not tared its just one working folder to be put into many, its something that is needed, i have one directory that is for the build and the other directorys are the workign ones and its an unfortunate c# program
[23:00] <ali1234> so tar it
[23:00] <daftykins> how many destination folders do you intend to copy to?
[23:01] <velusunivers-sys> 5
[23:01] <velusunivers-sys> i dont want to tar it
[23:01] <velusunivers-sys> it would confuse me too much
[23:01] <daftykins> i just had a test and i can't see a way to do it, so ali's suggestion will have to do - otherwise just get it done
[23:02] <velusunivers-sys> ill have to do it manually
[23:02] <daftykins> yep
[23:02] <ali1234> yeah there's no other way to do it other than by serializing the directory and duplicating it with pipes
[23:02] <ali1234> or just copy it multiple times
[23:03] <daftykins> weirdly when i typed "copy file test1 test2" it only copied to test2 and not test1
[23:03] <daftykins> though that was until i re-read the idea was a folder not file
[23:04] <ali1234> for a file: cat file | tee file1 > file2
[23:04] <daftykins> ah har
[23:04] <ndf> man xargs
[23:04] <ali1234> for directories it's the same, but tarring the directory and untarring it in each place you want a copy
[23:05] <ali1234> the important point here is the source only gets read once. i needed to copy a file from a server and make two local copies on different hard drives, and i only had enough time to write one copy to each disk, not read it back
[23:06] <ali1234> so i had to use tee to make the copy while the data was in flight, before writing it
[23:06] <ali1234> chances are you do not need to do this and can just do it the slow way
[23:08] <daftykins> chances are users are lazy :<
[23:12] <diddledan> only a chance? I thought that was guaranteed
[23:13] <daftykins> :D