[04:44] morning [04:44] any night owls still around;] [07:13] mornin peeps [07:17] allo allo [07:19] hey dwatkins , how are you ? [07:44] morning all [07:46] hey MooDoo :) How are you today dude [07:46] knightWork: hols in a week, so getting better :D [07:47] I"m leaving for the coast of france on wednesday for a couple of days of RR [07:48] knightWork: we'll be in paris or there abouts. [07:50] MooDoo: i'll be near calais [07:50] nice, :) [07:50] https://www.google.be/maps/place/Cap+Blanc+Nez/@50.9254316,1.6981468,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47dc3ca29e35c6b7:0xf3432f38c815d345?hl=en [07:51] you can see the little camp site just south of the peak [07:51] lovely [07:51] No wifi , no 3g , just some music, some books, a lot of walkies and some tea [07:52] and a hard drive strapped to your leg with 2tb of cat videos... :-P === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [07:53] LOL :) [07:53] couple of books and some movies [07:53] probably gonna take carl sagans COSMOS with ut [07:53] s [07:54] watched that for the first time since i saw it when it was first shown a few years back. i liked the new version but no one was as good at inspiring wonder as sagan [07:57] Carl can read me the phonebook and i'll still love it [07:57] his voice is .. magnifficent [07:58] the songs people have made with his talks are on my mp3 player... [07:58] zmoylan-pi: now i'm curious ! [07:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc [08:00] Awesome ! :) [08:03] Morning all [08:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBkZPyfpdE&list=RD1HBkZPyfpdE#t=0 [08:04] An entire symphony [08:08] Whow, I realy like this ... [08:09] and for lift relief there's always the universe song.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4uCWtQE24 [08:17] hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy 2 ewes, hippo birdy deer popey, hippo birdy 2 ewes [08:25] Oh crap zmoylan-pi you have shown me something now [08:25] i appear to be hooked [08:43] popey: ... birthday ? [08:58] Thanks :) [08:58] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy World Rat Day! 😃 🐀 [09:01] squeak? [09:03] Oh, interestingly I was born in the year of the rat too [09:06] * knightWork remembers Roland Rat ! [09:06] stainless steel rat for president o/ [09:20] morning boys and girls. [09:22] hey brobostigon [09:24] hi knightWork [09:36] Good morning peeps :) [09:37] popey: do you want to add to the RAT date poll before I close it? [09:38] morning bigcalm [09:38] o/ [09:38] o/ [09:39] \o [09:51] Let go troating about with big group of people, better off with small group < does this phrase make sense? what is troating about? [09:54] ujjain: no. [09:55] ah htanks [09:55] that's possibly one of the least sensicle sentances I've ever read, and I've read my own drunk texts [09:56] ah ok, it makes sense in my head though [09:58] U gave no idea what troating is , but it sound like something you might search for on pornhub [09:58] u gave = i have [09:58] I looked it up, and it means to call out loudly [09:58] or something similar [10:05] bigcalm: intentionally not done because I don't know when i can make it [10:07] JamesTait: this seems very appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc [10:09] hahahah [10:23] zmoylan-pi, SSR, wasn't that one of the old 16-bit hacker crews? [10:25] it's a serious of books about stainless steel rat, a criminal in far future... first ones are quite good... for their time... but i still like them [10:25] popey: okay. I'll close the poll and hopefully you'll be able to attend :) [10:25] was also in 2000ad as a multipart story [10:27] zmoylan-pi, you learn something new every day.... 😉 [10:28] wouldn't be suprised if a hacker group took the name [10:33] Ubuntu UK loco Real Ale Train | 10th September 2016 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/ [10:33] popey: ^ [10:36] !rat [10:36] rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 19th September 2015 Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3040-real-ale-train-2015/ [10:36] Now to try and remember how to get that changed [10:37] yay [10:38] !no, rat is rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/ [10:43] zmoylan-pi: one up on me, I only know of Roland Rat Superstar yeeeeeeah [10:46] it's finest moment is when on a world with massive intrusive surveillance he describes how useless it is as the amount of people required to monitor and then monitor the monitors quicky becomes unmanageable and pointless. [10:46] it always stuck with me [11:00] zmoylan-pi: Roland Rat said that ? [11:01] stainless steel rat [11:01] roland wasn't such a philosopher... [11:07] roland rat was the fonz in rat form :D [11:09] and who / from what universe is stainless steel rat ? [11:09] davmor2: agreed ! [11:09] He was the Gordon-the-gopher-with-streetsmarts [11:10] davmor2: you a ratfan as well then? ;) [11:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat [11:13] zmoylan-pi: yet another thing you have taught me today [11:14] they have dated and last 3 books are terrible imo. but i still love the books [11:15] the first sci fi book i bought new was a stainless steel rat book i bought on long trip to london in early 80s to keep me amused [11:19] Currently reading "ready player one" and taking some doctorrow books with me to the beach next weekend. [11:41] bigcalm: nice one! [11:53] popey: one what? [11:57] pub crawl === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:05] ya [12:05] beer train === lan3y is now known as Laney [12:08] O/ L@Ne3y ! === Laney is now known as Guest76158 [12:08] so l33t, Much W0w === Guest76158 is now known as Laney [12:11] i dunno, i miss Guest76158... [12:14] I realy had a personal bond with Guest76158 === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:17] The one time I get retweeted by an old school Linux bod, and it's a tweet about beer [13:17] * bigcalm giggles quietly to himself [13:18] I wonder if Alan Cocks would joint the RAT [13:18] it's not who you think it is [13:25] Bah [13:25] Cox not Cocks [13:25] humbug? === andatche_ is now known as andatche [14:28] bigcalm! pervert! [14:29] (I just saw the Cox not Cocks comment and assumed :-p) [14:29] privet [14:31] bigcalm: don't be calling diddledan a hedge [14:38] has anyone tried an ISP parental filter and managed to get more than domain level blocks? [14:39] e.g. reddit works but NSFW subreddits dont [14:42] foobarry: I think they are basically all just domain blocking tools [14:45] :( [14:45] i wonder if youtube and iplayer are blocked too then :S [14:46] foobarry: possibly [15:08] i just opened my office window for the first time this year D: [15:16] daftykins: and in a couple of months you'll shut it again because wasps will fly in [15:17] nah not here :P [15:42] * davmor2 deposits a wasps nest outside daftykins [15:42] :O [15:42] if i see a ladder i shall shout your nickname [15:43] * zmoylan-pi posts queen bee to daftykins as an inside job... [15:48] zmoylan-pi: nice he'll blame me thinking it is a wasp :D [15:48] the bee will wear a wasp disguise... [15:49] !rat [15:49] rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 10th September 2016, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3350-real-ale-train-2016/ [15:49] zmoylan-pi: and I can hand on heart swear in court it wasn't me in my shaggy-est impression possible [15:50] see, plausible deniability... [15:51] davmor2: you'll get a scare if you look up how old that track is! [15:51] came up on the radio and the guy said the year, 1998 i think [15:53] daftykins: pffff 98 3 of the songs forever getting into my head recently are all along the watchtower, house of the rising sun and stairway to heaven look up those dates you want scary [15:54] ;) that was before my time [15:54] * zmoylan-pi has 1-2 tunes on mp3 player that my mother liked dating from the 30s... [15:55] still a fan though! except less so of the animals [15:58] and you can't go wrong with lili marlene... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56QzGcAKZc [15:58] zmoylan-pi: glenn miller in the mood, little brown jug and Chattanooga Choo Choo [15:58] for the modern 40s stuff, yeah... :-) [16:01] zmoylan-pi: 30's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVMCzDmcFY [16:03] this is the song i always remember my mother humming as she cooked in kitchen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3G1DZmTCQ [16:04] zmoylan-pi: you poor man ;) [16:07] not really, usually meant she making something special... breads, cakes, roasts... === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:07] How do I raise the DPI on Xenial? [18:08] Just got a shiny new SuperDuperHD laptop and the text in this window is reeeeely teensy [18:09] settings -> monitors [18:09] drag the slider [18:10] Aha [18:10] Aha [18:10] Hmm, maybe I need to restart the apps [18:11] Because this one is rendering the new large text in the teensy box :-) [18:15] OK, that seems to work. [18:15] yip always need a log out + in to confirm [18:16] 1.5 might be a bit high [18:17] Might try 1.3 or 1.4, this is a 1440 screen and I like 1080 fine [18:18] 1.38 seems OK [18:18] which machine did you get? i'm just finalising one of the Dell XPS 13 models with a 1080p panel for someone, i expect to be told the text is too tiny the second i hand it over - so 1.25x will likely be the answer then [18:18] Lenovo t460s [18:18] i would've thought an even multiplier makes sense [18:19] It's really really attractive hardware [18:19] Keyboard's lovely (don't get the backlit ones, I'm told they are considerably less lovely) [18:20] I got the low end model apart from the screen, WiFi, and smartcard reader [18:20] Not paying £300 for a CPU that has a tray price $110 higher than the base model [18:21] Not paying over the odds for RAM and M.2 NVMe drives [18:21] if you run Linux you'd have issues with the latter anywho [18:22] What, NVMe? [18:22] yep [18:22] What's the issues? [18:23] take the Dell XPS13, the BIOS is set to RAID for intel's RST (rapid storage tech.) right now, so if you boot 16.04 beta 2, you don't even see a storage device to install to [18:23] Oh, that [18:23] Yeah, I had to do that to the Windows laptop my ex-job shipped me. [18:23] you can change it to AHCI sure, but then that runs the old style and defeats the benefits [18:24] Hmm. [18:24] 1.38 scale keeps Firefox in teensy mode [18:24] 1.5 seems to make it scale up [18:24] tried 1.25? [18:24] Not tried 1.25 [18:25] Will have a go [18:25] teensy mode [18:26] Guess I can make it scale by setting the zoom level [18:26] :S [18:26] speaks of a bigger issue really, what did you install on there? 15.10? [18:27] .... except it doesn't seem to stick per session [18:27] Xenial [18:27] ah good good [18:27] so close now it makes sense :> [18:27] in fact my bad, you did say [18:30] Not considered trying Mir / Unity 8 yet [18:49] awilkins: dell default to 2 which makes everything look the size of a window on a 1080 monitor however the scaling will also affect any monitor you plug it into which makes it look ugly as hell on lower res external monitor [20:28] yay a working openVPN setup on the pfsense embedded router now, that'll let me get in for maintenance etc. to Spain from anywhere else [22:57] hello if i want to cp a folder to multiple folders how would i do this woudl it be cp -R bin {regions11,regions12.....} [22:58] i once had to do that. i tarred the directory, pipe to tee, then untar it in multiple places [22:59] ? [23:00] its not tared its just one working folder to be put into many, its something that is needed, i have one directory that is for the build and the other directorys are the workign ones and its an unfortunate c# program [23:00] so tar it [23:00] how many destination folders do you intend to copy to? [23:01] 5 [23:01] i dont want to tar it [23:01] it would confuse me too much [23:01] i just had a test and i can't see a way to do it, so ali's suggestion will have to do - otherwise just get it done [23:02] ill have to do it manually [23:02] yep [23:02] yeah there's no other way to do it other than by serializing the directory and duplicating it with pipes [23:02] or just copy it multiple times [23:03] weirdly when i typed "copy file test1 test2" it only copied to test2 and not test1 [23:03] though that was until i re-read the idea was a folder not file [23:04] for a file: cat file | tee file1 > file2 [23:04] ah har [23:04] man xargs [23:04] for directories it's the same, but tarring the directory and untarring it in each place you want a copy [23:05] the important point here is the source only gets read once. i needed to copy a file from a server and make two local copies on different hard drives, and i only had enough time to write one copy to each disk, not read it back [23:06] so i had to use tee to make the copy while the data was in flight, before writing it [23:06] chances are you do not need to do this and can just do it the slow way [23:08] chances are users are lazy :< [23:12] only a chance? I thought that was guaranteed [23:13] :D