[00:51] <ahoneybun> valorie, ping?
[00:53] <ahoneybun> https://plus.google.com/+MartinWimpress/posts/7szGx8EZDb3
[00:53] <ahoneybun> Kubuntu 16.04 on a Rasberry Pi 3
[03:35] <valorie> ahoneybun: pong
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[07:34] <vip> hi ho
[07:35] <vip> what's the release date of new version?
[07:37] <vip> ah, 21
[08:36]  * soee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ....
[09:12] <franklin_>  Hi, I just sent a patch on the kubuntu discussion mailing list about SDDM installing, but I'm also wondering if it is the right way to send a patch
[09:15] <soee> yofel: ^
[09:20] <valorie> franklin_: people have sent patches on the list before
[09:22] <franklin_>  so...
[09:22] <valorie> so I'm sure it will be OK, and if not, whoever needs it in a different form will tell you so
[09:25] <franklin_> ok thx
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:53] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[11:53] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[18:56] <clivejo> very quiet in here!
[19:04] <BluesKaj> yup, hi clivejo
[19:06] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[19:06] <clivejo> how are you?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> god clivejo, and you ?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> good even
[19:08] <clivejo> not too bad thanks
[19:43] <clivejo> kci is still broken :(
[19:56] <valorie> I ran into a problem with muon last night -- I was trying to check my list of sources and be sure that all PPAs were gone in xenial
[19:57] <valorie> however, although it asked for my password, it never seems to have gotten it
[19:58] <valorie> now it won't even check for updates, because of an Authentication error
[20:10] <mhall119> Hi everyone, can you tell me what GUI software installer/app store Kubuntu uses?
[20:11] <ahoneybun> mhall119, Muon Discover I believe is the main one
[20:11] <mhall119> thanks ahoneybun 
 updating with Discover, wish me luck
[20:15] <mhall119> does it support different backends like Gnome Software does?
 I'm not sure tbh
[20:16] <sgclark> Muon, but it is not maintained upstream KDe anymore AFAIK. Seems to be a pain point to me but meh.
[20:19] <ahoneybun> mhall119, ^
[20:20] <mhall119> sgclark: does upstream have an alternative?
[20:21] <sgclark> discover I think? not really clear on what they did there.
[20:21] <valorie> muon has gotten a few patches recently, but as I said above -- experiencing problems with it today
[20:21] <mhall119> oh, so Muon and Muon Discover are different things?
[20:22] <valorie> discover is now called Plasma Discover
[20:22] <valorie> there is no longer a muon discover
[20:22] <valorie> and muon is now standalone, and a bit drifting atm
[20:22] <sgclark> like I said, I am confused, I do not understand why we are still using something barely/not maintained. And they did some splits and dropped support for muon.
[20:23] <valorie> sgclark: I was just testing muon
[20:23] <valorie> I want new maintainers for it
[20:23] <valorie> synaptic is ... blah
[20:24] <valorie> and I personally do not like software store stuff
[20:24] <sgclark> I see
[20:24] <valorie> sgclark: still visiting your family in AZ?
[20:24] <sgclark> well I use command line. So I dunno.
[20:24] <sgclark> valorie: yes I am still on "vacation"
[20:24] <valorie> me too, but I think we should have an alternative too
[20:25] <valorie> very good, you need one!
[20:25] <sgclark> well yeah, but prefferably maintained and not patched up broken mess
[20:25] <valorie> I agree
[20:25] <valorie> we should probably remove it from the ISO soon
[20:25] <valorie> before that packageset gets locked down
[20:25] <sgclark> if it is broken , yes... we are getting pummeled with bugs for it.
[20:26] <sgclark> hense my bitterness towards it.
[20:26] <clivejo> valorie: whats the problem you are having with Muon PM?
[20:26] <valorie> read up a bit clivejo -- it isn't taking my password, evidently
[20:26] <sgclark> okies, off to watch a movie with the family.
[20:26] <clivejo> just today?
[20:27] <valorie> last night and today
[20:27] <valorie> I've not filed a bug report yet
[20:27] <valorie> have to leave for a meeting in a few mins
[20:27] <clivejo> I dont think its muon
[20:27] <clivejo> Im having issues signing packages too
[20:28] <clivejo> no longer popping up the gui to enter my password
[20:28] <clivejo> but its only started today
[20:28] <valorie> something is messed up in my sources
[20:28] <valorie> but when I examine /etc/apt/sources.list everything looks good
[20:29] <clivejo> I installed quite a few packages last night
[20:29] <valorie> I think I need to mess with /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ but....
[20:29] <valorie> I wanted muon to do that for me
[20:29] <valorie> and it would not
[20:34] <valorie> ok, time to get ready to leave for meet with financial planner
[20:34]  * clivejo wishes he had money to plan for
[20:36] <mhall119> ahoneybun: can you re-open the discussion with Tom about Kubuntu DVD art?
[20:36] <mhall119> and see if he has time to work on a hybrid of the Ubuntu/KDE ?
[20:36] <clivejo> I still need a sponsor for Muon PM :(
[20:37] <acheron> just updated packages using muon PM and no probs here with it taking my password etc
[20:37] <clivejo> o/ acheron
[20:38]  * clivejo kicks hash sum mismatch
[20:38] <ahoneybun> I can mhall119 let me get a hold of ovidiu-florin and work on something
[20:40] <mhall119> thanks ahoneybun 
[20:40] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: you around?
[20:42] <ahoneybun> mhall119: getting Snappy to work just sounds like extra work for already super hard working developers like sgclark, yofel and clivejo
[20:42]  * ahoneybun wishes IRC had a delete option
[20:43] <mhall119> ahoneybun: snapcraft should make that as little extra work as possible, using existing build scripts or even binary debs
[20:43] <clivejo> ahoneybun: one of the new maintainers for Muon PM was talking about adding support for snappy
[20:43] <sgclark> snappy is on my want to do list. however, it has been brought to my attention I need a job that pays haha. But we'll see.
[20:43] <sgclark> can we just get Muon working first? that would be great.
[20:44] <clivejo> Muon PM is working
[20:44] <ahoneybun> +1 to that
[20:44] <clivejo> but I need a sponsor
[20:44] <ahoneybun> mhall119: it is more of a Ubuntu thing then us at KDE land
[20:44] <clivejo> sgclark: Bug 1562406
[20:45] <mhall119> sgclark: https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd03/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=1094 :)
[20:45] <sgclark> clivejo: I don't have the rights to sponser or I would :(
[20:45] <ahoneybun> yea someone needs to pay more attention to those FFE's then darn Snappy
[20:45] <mhall119> ahoneybun: true, but it might be a nice fit between Kubuntu and Neon
[20:46]  * ahoneybun dislikes Neon
[20:47] <clivejo> Carlo Vanini has indicated he would like to update the Muon PM interface to QML and also add extra features
[20:47] <clivejo> hes friendly enough guy to talk to
[20:47] <clivejo> and I think hes a Kubuntu fan :)
[20:48]  * clivejo crosses fingers
[20:49] <ahoneybun> mhall119: poke the people who deal with FFE's please
[20:50] <clivejo> is there any way to get past our current upload block with baloo?
[20:51] <clivejo> we have packages ready to go but being blocked by failed tests
[20:51] <mhall119> ahoneybun: is there no longer anyone on the Kubuntu team who can do this?
[20:51] <ahoneybun> we do, they take forever to reply
[20:52] <clivejo> yofel can, but hes only one guy doing it in his free time, its not fair
[20:52] <mhall119> ok, I'll see which Ubuntu devs I can round up
[20:53] <ahoneybun> thanks mhall119
[20:56] <clivejo> mhall119: do you have MOTU?
[20:56]  * mhall119 is calling in a favor for help with it
[20:57] <mhall119> clivejo: no, I barely know what I'm doing when it comes to deb packaging
[20:57] <mhall119> not for lack of trying
[20:59] <sgclark> mhall119: ty, applying.
[20:59] <sgclark> ok, off to spend time with family for realz
[21:04]  * ahoneybun might have broke the docs website
[21:05] <ahoneybun> is yofel still on vacation?
[21:05] <yofel> no, I'm here
[21:06] <yofel> just got other stuff to do so far and no energy left
[21:07] <ahoneybun> idk sphinx is giving me this: ImportError: No module named sphinx_bootstrap_theme
[21:07] <ahoneybun> I never touched the conf.py file
[21:07] <ahoneybun> just updated a .rst file
[21:08] <ahoneybun> so the site is still fine 
[21:08]  * ahoneybun finds food
[21:08] <yofel> hm.... that sounds familira
[21:08] <yofel> *familiar
[21:13] <clivejo> anyone seem Rick?
[21:13] <clivejo> seen?
[21:14] <soee_> nope
[21:14]  * soee_ is happy - has his VPS runnng :)
[21:14] <clivejo> he was to upload the Muon packaging fixes to his PPA
[21:18] <ahoneybun> clivejo: rick is usually quiet before the show lol
[21:19] <clivejo> :(
[21:19]  * ahoneybun checks on him