[00:51] valorie, ping? [00:53] https://plus.google.com/+MartinWimpress/posts/7szGx8EZDb3 [00:53] Kubuntu 16.04 on a Rasberry Pi 3 [03:35] ahoneybun: pong [05:41] : ^^ [07:34] hi ho [07:35] what's the release date of new version? [07:37] ah, 21 [08:36] * soee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .... [09:12] Hi, I just sent a patch on the kubuntu discussion mailing list about SDDM installing, but I'm also wondering if it is the right way to send a patch [09:15] yofel: ^ [09:20] franklin_: people have sent patches on the list before [09:22] so... === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [09:22] so I'm sure it will be OK, and if not, whoever needs it in a different form will tell you so [09:25] ok thx [11:50] Hi all [11:53] hiho BluesKaj [11:53] hey soee === xnox_ is now known as xnox === Riddelll is now known as Riddell === wendar_ is now known as wendar [18:56] very quiet in here! [19:04] yup, hi clivejo [19:06] hi BluesKaj [19:06] how are you? [19:07] god clivejo, and you ? [19:07] good even [19:08] not too bad thanks [19:43] kci is still broken :( [19:56] I ran into a problem with muon last night -- I was trying to check my list of sources and be sure that all PPAs were gone in xenial [19:57] however, although it asked for my password, it never seems to have gotten it [19:58] now it won't even check for updates, because of an Authentication error [20:10] Hi everyone, can you tell me what GUI software installer/app store Kubuntu uses? [20:11] mhall119, Muon Discover I believe is the main one [20:11] thanks ahoneybun [20:14] : updating with Discover, wish me luck [20:15] does it support different backends like Gnome Software does? [20:15] : I'm not sure tbh [20:16] Muon, but it is not maintained upstream KDe anymore AFAIK. Seems to be a pain point to me but meh. [20:19] mhall119, ^ [20:20] sgclark: does upstream have an alternative? [20:21] discover I think? not really clear on what they did there. [20:21] muon has gotten a few patches recently, but as I said above -- experiencing problems with it today [20:21] oh, so Muon and Muon Discover are different things? [20:22] discover is now called Plasma Discover [20:22] there is no longer a muon discover [20:22] and muon is now standalone, and a bit drifting atm [20:22] like I said, I am confused, I do not understand why we are still using something barely/not maintained. And they did some splits and dropped support for muon. [20:23] sgclark: I was just testing muon [20:23] I want new maintainers for it [20:23] synaptic is ... blah [20:24] and I personally do not like software store stuff [20:24] I see [20:24] sgclark: still visiting your family in AZ? [20:24] well I use command line. So I dunno. [20:24] valorie: yes I am still on "vacation" [20:24] me too, but I think we should have an alternative too [20:25] very good, you need one! [20:25] well yeah, but prefferably maintained and not patched up broken mess [20:25] I agree [20:25] we should probably remove it from the ISO soon [20:25] before that packageset gets locked down [20:25] if it is broken , yes... we are getting pummeled with bugs for it. [20:26] hense my bitterness towards it. [20:26] valorie: whats the problem you are having with Muon PM? [20:26] read up a bit clivejo -- it isn't taking my password, evidently [20:26] okies, off to watch a movie with the family. [20:26] just today? [20:27] last night and today [20:27] I've not filed a bug report yet [20:27] have to leave for a meeting in a few mins [20:27] I dont think its muon [20:27] Im having issues signing packages too [20:28] no longer popping up the gui to enter my password [20:28] but its only started today [20:28] something is messed up in my sources [20:28] but when I examine /etc/apt/sources.list everything looks good [20:29] I installed quite a few packages last night [20:29] I think I need to mess with /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ but.... [20:29] I wanted muon to do that for me [20:29] and it would not [20:34] ok, time to get ready to leave for meet with financial planner [20:34] * clivejo wishes he had money to plan for [20:36] ahoneybun: can you re-open the discussion with Tom about Kubuntu DVD art? [20:36] and see if he has time to work on a hybrid of the Ubuntu/KDE ? [20:36] I still need a sponsor for Muon PM :( [20:37] just updated packages using muon PM and no probs here with it taking my password etc [20:37] o/ acheron [20:38] * clivejo kicks hash sum mismatch [20:38] I can mhall119 let me get a hold of ovidiu-florin and work on something [20:40] thanks ahoneybun [20:40] ovidiu-florin: you around? [20:42] mhall119: getting Snappy to work just sounds like extra work for already super hard working developers like sgclark, yofel and clivejo [20:42] * ahoneybun wishes IRC had a delete option [20:43] ahoneybun: snapcraft should make that as little extra work as possible, using existing build scripts or even binary debs [20:43] ahoneybun: one of the new maintainers for Muon PM was talking about adding support for snappy [20:43] snappy is on my want to do list. however, it has been brought to my attention I need a job that pays haha. But we'll see. [20:43] can we just get Muon working first? that would be great. [20:44] Muon PM is working [20:44] +1 to that [20:44] but I need a sponsor [20:44] mhall119: it is more of a Ubuntu thing then us at KDE land [20:44] sgclark: Bug 1562406 [20:44] bug 1562406 in muon (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update to latest upstream version" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562406 [20:45] sgclark: https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd03/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=1094 :) [20:45] clivejo: I don't have the rights to sponser or I would :( [20:45] yea someone needs to pay more attention to those FFE's then darn Snappy [20:45] ahoneybun: true, but it might be a nice fit between Kubuntu and Neon [20:46] * ahoneybun dislikes Neon [20:47] Carlo Vanini has indicated he would like to update the Muon PM interface to QML and also add extra features [20:47] hes friendly enough guy to talk to [20:47] and I think hes a Kubuntu fan :) [20:48] * clivejo crosses fingers [20:49] mhall119: poke the people who deal with FFE's please [20:50] is there any way to get past our current upload block with baloo? [20:51] we have packages ready to go but being blocked by failed tests [20:51] ahoneybun: is there no longer anyone on the Kubuntu team who can do this? [20:51] we do, they take forever to reply [20:52] yofel can, but hes only one guy doing it in his free time, its not fair [20:52] ok, I'll see which Ubuntu devs I can round up [20:53] thanks mhall119 [20:56] mhall119: do you have MOTU? [20:56] * mhall119 is calling in a favor for help with it [20:57] clivejo: no, I barely know what I'm doing when it comes to deb packaging [20:57] not for lack of trying [20:59] mhall119: ty, applying. [20:59] ok, off to spend time with family for realz [21:04] * ahoneybun might have broke the docs website [21:05] is yofel still on vacation? [21:05] no, I'm here [21:06] just got other stuff to do so far and no energy left [21:07] idk sphinx is giving me this: ImportError: No module named sphinx_bootstrap_theme [21:07] I never touched the conf.py file [21:07] just updated a .rst file [21:08] so the site is still fine [21:08] * ahoneybun finds food [21:08] hm.... that sounds familira [21:08] *familiar [21:13] anyone seem Rick? [21:13] seen? [21:14] nope [21:14] * soee_ is happy - has his VPS runnng :) [21:14] he was to upload the Muon packaging fixes to his PPA [21:18] clivejo: rick is usually quiet before the show lol [21:19] :( [21:19] * ahoneybun checks on him