[02:10] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:12] <Bashing-om> 0/ good day to you lotuspsychje :)
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Been slow on the channel .
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: good to start :p
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i plugged my new ssd inside + xenial
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> bloody fast
[02:23] <Bashing-om> So I do here . Looking forward to my experience . As is I boot in under 5 seconds on a spinner .
[02:23] <Bashing-om> here/hear* !
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i had some issues with the daily installer though..
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: ubi-language crashes on error 141 forcing me to use english systemwide
[02:26] <Bashing-om> bug ? operator error ?
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> yep ill bug it
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: and a pretty old one too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/459550
[02:27] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 459550 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-language failed with exit code 141" [Medium,Triaged]
[02:28] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Bug squad, still looking for for help . Lots of old bugs still around.
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1566116
[02:47] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1566116 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubi-language crashed with exit code 141" [Undecided,New]
[02:50] <Bashing-om> look'n ^ .
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Should be good, Hope it gets them trackers' attention .
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah lets hope
[02:57] <Bashing-om> :)
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: and another bug im affected to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1325801
[03:01] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1325801 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Wily) "failed to boot from USB disk with error: gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R Image boot:" [Critical,Triaged]
[03:12] <Bashing-om> not much to heat it up .. lots of " Won't Fix￼ ".
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> anoying bug for new users..
[03:20] <Bashing-om> One work-a-round. maybe not for the new user : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 .
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: interesting, ill test also the new usb creator from xenial
[03:28] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: K; let sudodus know your results .. he do work hard .
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon
[04:47] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:57] <BluesKaj> hey TJ-
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video
[17:12] <TJ-> evening :)
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-budgie-could-be-the-new-flavor-of-ubuntu-linux-as-part-of-ubuntu-16-10-502573.shtml
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[17:20] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: plugged my new 850 pro ssd in my netbook and installed xenial on it
[17:21] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje,  cool , fast eh/
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> rocknroll :p
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i had to bypass a nasty old bug though..
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1566116
[17:22] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1566116 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubi-language crashed with exit code 141" [Undecided,New]
[17:22] <BluesKaj> I us an EVO 850 ssd on this old pc and it brought it to life
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: placed the evo one on my desktop upstairs, the pro in netbook :p
[17:25] <BluesKaj> yeah , thinking of another evo 850 for the laptop then using the 1TB hdd as an outboard medai drive
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: good idea, i payed 94 euro now for the 128gig 850 pro
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok you guys must pay a lot of vat taxes there., am i correct ?  Ours is 13%
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> 21%
[17:28] <BluesKaj> vat = value added tax on consumer goods
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: but the evo is also cheaper here
[17:30] <BluesKaj> I paid $125 CDN for the evo 850 256 GB ssd including taxes
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> nice one
[17:30] <BluesKaj> amazon
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> the pro is bit more expensive, but samsung gives 10 years warranty
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ok , that's a nice warranty
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ok lots of stuff to do toady ...later
[18:30] <BluesKaj> hey Bashing-om
[18:30] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Hello, how it be with your world ?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok , was checking s few old hdds, but they're toast ..was hoping for a better result, but they have to go the electronics recycler
[18:37] <BluesKaj> one isn't so old , a 3yr old WD 1TB .,..very disappointed with that one
[18:37] <BluesKaj> how about you Bashing-om?
[18:39] <Bashing-om> Bout the same. Got a WD drive that is problematic and needs replacing .. Got nothing I am comfortable with on hand . Sure a good time to go SSD !
[18:40] <daftykins> :D
[18:40] <daftykins> none of them last these days, all brands are quite disappointing
[18:41] <BluesKaj> yea lotus and I were discussing that earlier...thinking of a ssd for my lenovo g500 laptop and using the 1TB hdd from it as an outboard media drive
[18:42] <daftykins> that'd be the best combo for sure
[18:42] <BluesKaj> but like you say that drive may not last either :/
[18:42] <daftykins> just the other day i had a laptop in with a mechanical drive for the first time - and i had to remember to be gentle with it
[18:42] <daftykins> everything else being solid state now you can just fling laptops around :D
[18:45] <BluesKaj> yeah the i3 intel cpu as an enbtry level processer is really fast for ordinary computing , adding a ssd to the mix would speed it up even more
[18:46] <daftykins> i'd actually been quite surprised recently since i got that really cheap i5 in, the jump up from even a 4th generation haswell i3 to a haswell or newer i5 is huge
[18:46] <daftykins> i go for i3 at the office level though
[18:46] <BluesKaj> of course I'm used to this old desktop amd 5200+ so any thing in the 5 yrs or so is problya lot faster
[18:47] <BluesKaj> sdd really helps it tho
[18:48] <daftykins> :D
[18:48] <daftykins> oh definitely, they've helped me stave off the desire to upgrade this desktop since i built it in 2007
[18:48] <daftykins> still running one of the first best SSDs, the intel X25-M G2 160GB
[18:48]  * BluesKaj nods
[18:50] <daftykins> still have to giggle a bit that i've just ordered 32GB RAM... i'm all too aware of when that was the hard disk size ;)
[18:51] <BluesKaj> wifey bought me an evo 850 256GB for Christmas so I mounted it in this desktop...new life into an old horse :-)
[18:51] <daftykins> :D
[18:52] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjuf1qlz9ocecks/deskie.JPG?dl=0
[18:52] <BluesKaj> 32GB seems like a lot to me
[18:52] <daftykins> i've picked one of the new M.2 PCI-Express connected NVMe SSDs for my new desktop
[18:52] <BluesKaj> ram that is
[18:52] <daftykins> sounds it, but when you look at the price - and that i virtualise a lot, it'll be great
[18:53] <BluesKaj> pci eh , cool  ..bleeding edge
[18:53] <daftykins> i want to try and last a good few years like with this PC, for this next one - so going all out makes sense to me :D
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Me too ! That is the SSD I have my eye on : *****)Samsung 850 EVO 250GB $84.58 >> $71.00 Newegg But out of stock .
[18:54] <BluesKaj> oh a virtualizer, understood
[18:54] <daftykins> mmm i would personally avoid the EVOs since they use TLC which won't have the same endurance, thus life span, as MLC
[18:55] <BluesKaj> at 71 bucks it looks like a loss leader
[18:55] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Noted ! Was not that aware .
[18:55] <BluesKaj> TLC.MLC ? uhm ?
[18:57] <daftykins> it relates to the design of the NAND memory chips, they reduce cost by storing more bits per cell - which due to the way they're built, can then be harder to read back after some time goes by with TLC (triple level cell) versus MLC (multi level cell) which is a confusing one given triple and multi sound the same :D
[18:58] <daftykins> it's how the industry has chosen to name them though. the samsung 840 EVOs had a big ongoing firmware blunder, which is still evident, where over time of filling up the drive the performance would drop off to a tiny fraction of 1% that of new, as it was becoming harder and harder to read the data
[18:58] <daftykins> they 'solved' this, or rather cheated it in the end by having the firmware go over the drive during idle times and rewrite everything to ensure the charge levels are strong enough to be read
[18:59] <daftykins> i don't expect the 850 generation suffers from this so much, but it's probably still present
[19:04] <BluesKaj> I probly won't notice since my cpu is somewhat older and slower than the modern ones anyway
[19:06] <daftykins> oh we're talking dramatic performance reduction
[19:07] <BluesKaj> when this pc craps out I'll just get a raspi with all the trimmings and use that as my htpc
[19:07] <daftykins> http://www.anandtech.com/show/8617/samsung-releases-firmware-update-to-fix-the-ssd-840-evo-read-performance-bug
[19:07] <daftykins> :D i'd recommend the Amazon FireTV!
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> hi Bashing-om
[19:07] <daftykins> \o hi sir
[19:07] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: look what's on the way - https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjuf1qlz9ocecks/deskie.JPG?dl=0
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: holy smokin oO
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> nice material mate
[19:09] <daftykins> ^_^
[19:09] <daftykins> finally pushing the boat out after 9 years with the Q6600
[19:09] <BluesKaj> not ready for an android box yet , my internet connection is only 6mb so i9t barely handles netflix at ild std def resolution
[19:10] <BluesKaj> the std def
[19:11] <daftykins> ah, well i use mine to run Kodi to play my local content from my file server
[19:11] <daftykins> just earlier today i was putting one in my clients' childs bedroom for doing the same also, where we have over 1,000 films from DVDs all ripped onto a file server
[19:11] <daftykins> all nicely disclessly available :D
[19:12] <lotuspsychje>  Model=Samsung SSD 850 PRO 128GB, FwRev=EXM02B6Q, SerialNo=S24ZNXAGC04031J
[19:13] <BluesKaj> I'm in the boonies so there's only one OTA TV channel in my area, so we're stuck with either sattv or cable
[19:15] <BluesKaj> I could switch to faster fibre internet and drop the sattv , but wife needs convincing first
[19:16] <daftykins> BluesKaj: what's the damage on getting fiber in? is it already at your door?
[19:16] <daftykins> sorry damage being a British colloquialism for cost :D
[19:17] <BluesKaj> it's the distribution box in my front yard , on the easement portion of the property , so it's copper wire from there
[19:17] <BluesKaj> but fibre to the dist box
[19:18] <daftykins> oh so you might get VDSL tech like i have here?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> it would be about 85bucks cdn for 50mb/mos
[19:20] <daftykins> how does that compare to the current satellite service?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> dunno what the data cap is tho
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> i got 50mbit vdsl2 + phone+tv for 39 euros
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> no data limits
[19:22] <BluesKaj> sat service is 60/mos for my packages which is quite minimal , no sports or US news packs etc,but it suffices for our tv habits
[19:23] <BluesKaj> dropped cnn and those other US news channels plus the sports chans were very expensive
[19:24] <daftykins> i'll bet!
[19:25] <BluesKaj> our total phone, internet and tv is 125/mos , so we basically cut it in half 18mos ago by switcjing internet and phone provders and those tv chans
[19:27] <daftykins> i don't even use a TV service here
[19:28] <daftykins> thankfully right now i don't have to pay the BBC if i don't watch their live TV services
[19:28] <BluesKaj> we're retired on fixed income and tired of being fleeced here
[19:29] <BluesKaj> daftykins, cool free tv is the way to go :-)
[19:29] <daftykins> you can use their catchup services, i don't really tend to do that either
[19:30] <daftykins> sometimes i used to check out the local BBC news but hearing about a cow falling over in a field got old ;)
[19:31] <BluesKaj> LOL
[19:32] <BluesKaj> :-0
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys, movietimes :p
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> have a nice one
[19:33] <BluesKaj> yeah , later guys , going shopping..take care
[23:51] <Bashing-om> chrome-repo
[23:51] <Bashing-om> !chrome-repo
[23:51] <ubot5`> Google recently deprecated 32-bit Chrome, which causes errors on 64-bit multiarch Ubuntu systems. To fix this, run:   sudo sed -i 's/deb http/deb [arch=amd64] http/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list /opt/google/chrome/cron/google-chrome