[05:47] <Kilos> morning Cryterion inetpro dlPhreak magespawn Private_User and all others
[05:48] <mazal> More oom
[05:48] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:05] <mazal> Min dae oom , 16 na Ubu 16.04 toe
[06:05] <Kilos> lol
[06:06] <mazal> I will have to find a way to iso on it , can't install at home without internet.
[06:06] <mazal> Must do at work and iso for home
[06:06] <Kilos> that easy man
[06:06] <mazal> I doubt remaster will still work
[06:07] <mazal> I hope this new tool will work
[06:07] <Kilos> get the iso then use unetbootin to put it on a stick
[06:07] <mazal> I can't do the install oom
[06:07] <mazal> Lots of apt-gets needed
[06:07] <Kilos> oh you mean in place of remastersys
[06:08] <mazal> I must install on work pc , then make iso of complete one to take home
[06:08] <Kilos> you can use just apt now
[06:08] <Kilos> apt update/upgrade/intall etc
[06:08] <mazal> I will try this systemback thingy
[06:08] <Kilos> keep record
[06:09] <mazal> Can't do that at home , that's the point
[06:09] <Kilos> sigh 
[06:09] <Kilos> they still have fixed to connection?
[06:09] <Kilos> havent
[06:09] <mazal> No , I live in SA , no such thing as client service
[06:10] <mazal> No routers for mobile yet either
[06:10] <Kilos> eish
[06:19] <thatgraemeguy> I upgraded last week already
[06:32] <Kilos> online upgrade thatgraemeguy ?
[06:32] <thatgraemeguy> yes of course
[06:32] <magespawn> mazal there is a way to mark the packages you want to install in the software center then get them from a computer connected to the net
[06:32] <Kilos> ok
[06:39] <mazal> Heaches ai. Struggling without connectivity
[06:39] <mazal> Can't do anything on a pc these days without inet
[06:40] <mazal> headaches also
[06:40] <Kilos> lol
[06:40] <mazal> Oom Kilos bad luck continues , my geyser broke also
[06:40] <mazal> Don't ahve hot water since last week
[06:40] <Kilos> eish
[06:41] <mazal> My only external drive broke also
[06:41] <Kilos> sort your dongle
[06:41] <Kilos> oh my
[06:41] <mazal> Too expensive that oom
[06:41] <Kilos> there was a great afrihost offer last week
[06:42] <Kilos> dont you get mybroadband mails
[06:42] <Kilos> 15g
[06:42] <mazal> For my dongle I must buy prepaid data , too expensive
[06:43] <mazal> I can't apply for another contract now , it both gets approved then I have problems
[06:43] <Kilos> the afrihost thing came with router and tablet iirc
[06:43] <mazal> Like I say , can't apply for another contract
[06:43] <Kilos> sigh
[06:43] <mazal> Already applied for one , the one that's waiting for router
[06:58] <Kilos> rev them man, they must have one at one of their shops/outlets
[07:02] <magespawn> mazal afrihost is month to month, so you could get one then cancel as soon as the other arrives
[07:07] <thatgraemeguy> stay away from contracts :-o
[07:14] <inetpro> good afternoon 
[07:17] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:23] <mazal> magespawn: But how do I get a router ?
[07:24] <mazal> I will have to buy one then yes ?
[07:25] <mazal> and on witch signal does afrihost work ?
[07:29] <thatgraemeguy> afrihost uses MTN for their mobile stuff. you can buy a router cash or pay it off over 12 months
[07:30] <thatgraemeguy> but going on a 2-year contract for mobile data isn't all that great unless it's an INSANELY good price. if you look how prices have changed over the last 2 years, it would suck to be stuck on a contract at the same high rate every time a better deal surfaces
[07:30] <mazal> Ok , that won't work. Vodacom , Cell C and MTN no signal where I live
[07:30] <mazal> The only signal I have is Telkom unfortunately :(
[07:31] <thatgraemeguy> oi :-/
[07:31] <mazal> I tested with friends routers , and all is useless except Telkom signal runs about the same as 4mb line
[07:31] <mazal> That's why I am so badly stuck. I don't really have options
[07:32] <thatgraemeguy> in this day an age that would be enough to make me move, lol
[07:32] <thatgraemeguy> can't be living offline :-O
[07:32] <mazal> And unfortunately the only data that is not crazy expensive is on crantract :(
[07:33] <mazal> thatgraemeguy: I can't tell you how gatvol I am already. Is about 6 weeks now that I can't do anything at home
[07:34] <mazal> I have to drive to work just to go make a EFT payment
[07:34] <magespawn> ai mazal, harsh
[07:34] <mazal> Granted it's not far but it's a schlep. Installs and updates I can't do at all
[07:35] <magespawn> you must also be about the only person in sa who gets telkom but not the rest
[07:35] <mazal> And they are so useless they haven't even started with my cancellation which is also a month ago ordered already
[07:35] <mazal> This country suck
[07:36] <mazal> magespawn: Is cos Telkom is the only one with a tower close by
[07:36] <thatgraemeguy> the country is pretty ok, it sounds like that little piece where you live does suck pretty badly though
[07:37] <mazal> Well their head office that does the admin is certainly not here and thet can't even do their work
[07:37] <mazal> The managers that must do purchase planning is also not here and they can also not do their work
[07:38] <mazal> Pathetic incompetance
[08:52] <magespawn> back
[08:55] <chesedo> morning all
[08:55] <chesedo> and wb magespawn
[08:56] <Kilos> hi che
[08:56] <chesedo> alo los
[08:58] <Kilos> lol
[08:58] <Kilos> chesedo 
[08:58] <Kilos> thats better
[08:59] <chesedo> lol, thought you missed the tab Kilos :D
[08:59] <Kilos> dunno what happened to that tab complete
[08:59] <Kilos> haha
[09:00] <magespawn> apparently a sub station exploded at 3am in empangeni, so my batteries have just died, so no adsl until that is fixed
[09:00] <magespawn> th chesedo 
[09:01] <magespawn> s/th/ty
[09:01] <Kilos> ai!
[09:12] <magespawn> running the office off a 3g connection now
[10:41] <mazal> What is koeksister in english ?
[10:41] <mazal> maaz translate koeksister
[10:41] <Maaz> mazal: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2.  See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.
[10:42] <Kilos> koeksister i think
[10:42] <Kilos> no english name for it
[10:42] <mazal> hmm
[10:42] <mazal> Trying to explain a road to someone and part if it we call die koeksister kruising
[10:42] <mazal> Now I don't know what to call that lol
[10:47] <pavlushka> maaz define koeksister
[10:47] <Maaz> pavlushka: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?
[10:47] <mazal> hahahaha
[10:48] <mazal> I'll just call it " that big crossing where kfc is "
[10:48] <mazal> Everyone knows kfc
[10:48] <pavlushka> yeah you can laugh, take maaz with you.
[10:49] <mazal> maaz I'll take a picture for you
[10:49] <Maaz> mazal: *blink*
[10:49] <pavlushka> is that the local definition of koeksister?
[10:50] <mazal> I don't think an english word exists for it
[10:51] <pavlushka> you tell me what koeksister means?
[10:52] <pavlushka> I am a self claimed translator , I'll translate the whole English for you in English.
[10:52] <mazal> http://www.eatout.co.za/recipe/masterchef-sa-koeksisters/
[10:52] <mazal> It's a sweet dish
[10:53] <pavlushka> then it falls in the category of proper noun.
[10:53] <mazal> We have a crossing in PTA named after it due to it's shape
[10:54] <pavlushka> wow!!!!
[10:54] <mazal> So I was trying to explain to an english persion that I will meet him there , but didn't know what to call it in english
[10:54] <mazal> person*
[10:56] <pavlushka> it should be koeksister point then.
[10:57] <mazal> Agreed
[10:57] <magespawn> mazal: england english?
[10:57] <mazal> I wonder if the PTa peeps even still call it that , I doubt it. Anybody here close to Hatfield ?
[10:59] <mazal> magespawn: Any english. I decided to rather go with " the crossing at kfc " and he knew where that is hehehe
[11:00] <pavlushka> clever!
[11:20] <chesedo> mazal: how about the twirl crossing
[11:30] <mazal> chesedo: Interesting
[11:30] <mazal> I would actually like to know what the peeps there call it these days
[11:34] <mazal> Here is a good one " spaghetti junction " bwahahaha
[11:36] <pavlushka> will there be some meatballs too?
[11:36] <mazal> hehehehe
[12:15] <pavlushka> ping: Cryterion !
[12:18] <pavlushka> Cryterion, where's the rabbit now?
[12:48] <Kilos> working pavlushka 
[12:51] <pavlushka> Kilos, alright!
[12:51] <Kilos> here if you dont work you dont eat
[13:11] <Kilos> hehe another good saying
[13:11] <Kilos> If it isn't broken yet, then you've not fixed it enough.  ;)
[13:11] <chesedo> lol
[13:12]  * chesedo likes this one better than the other one
[13:12] <Kilos> yeah
[13:12] <Kilos> haha
[13:12] <Kilos> im trying to put different wallpapers on different workspaces
[13:12] <Kilos> whew
[13:13] <Kilos> i did it a year ago and thought it was easy
[13:14] <Kilos> must be 14.04 kde thats more difficult, cant be i got more dumberer
[13:21] <chesedo> more dumberer.... such a thing does not exist so no worries Kilos
[13:22] <Kilos> hhahahaha
[13:25] <magespaw1> brb
[15:52] <Kilos> Maaz define cruller
[15:52] <Maaz> Kilos: Cruller \Crul"ler\ (kr[u^]l"l[~e]r), n. [Cf. {Curl}.] A kind of sweet cake cut in strips and curled or twisted, and fried crisp in boiling fat. [Also written {kruller}.] [1913 Webster], cruller n 1: small friedcake formed into twisted strips and fried; richer than doughnuts [syn: {cruller}, {twister}]
[15:52] <Kilos> Maaz tell mazal koeksister=cruller
[15:52] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[15:58] <Kilos> reen kom inetpro 
[15:58] <Kilos> en winter
[16:30] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[16:30] <Kilos> a koeksister is a cruller
[16:31] <pavlushka> Heya Kilos !
[16:32] <pavlushka> I see
[16:32] <pavlushka> I love sweet
[16:33] <pavlushka> So, problem solved
[16:33] <Kilos> first time i ever heard that word
[16:33] <pavlushka> got the translation
[16:34] <pavlushka> which word?
[16:34] <pavlushka> cruller?
[16:34] <Kilos> Maaz define cruller
[16:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Cruller \Crul"ler\ (kr[u^]l"l[~e]r), n. [Cf. {Curl}.] A kind of sweet cake cut in strips and curled or twisted, and fried crisp in boiling fat. [Also written {kruller}.] [1913 Webster], cruller n 1: small friedcake formed into twisted strips and fried; richer than doughnuts [syn: {cruller}, {twister}]
[16:34] <inetpro> twister would be more apropriate Kilos
[16:35] <Kilos> thats the official translation in an old eng/afr dikpensmerrie
[16:36] <inetpro> http://wikimapia.org/23603167/Koeksister-intersection
[16:37] <Kilos> oh is that what started it all
[16:38] <pavlushka> inetpro, but is that item appropriate for you?
[16:39] <inetpro> item?
[16:39] <pavlushka> koeksister
[16:40] <pavlushka> and Kilos, what abt you?
[16:40] <pavlushka> you like koeksister?
[16:40] <inetpro> pavlushka: they're very sweet and tasty
[16:40] <Kilos> yeah they are lekker
[16:41] <Kilos> lekker=very tasty
[16:41] <inetpro> almost too sweet for me
[16:42] <pavlushka> inetpro, you like too sweet or not?
[16:42] <Kilos> yeah, you aet 4 or 6 then your are bilious afterwards
[16:42] <Kilos> very very sweet
[16:42] <Kilos> but yummy
[16:42] <inetpro> no, no... I'll take salty any day over sweet
[16:43] <inetpro> but a koeksister once in a while is ok
[16:43] <Kilos> bacon kips
[16:43] <Kilos> and salty cracks
[16:43] <Kilos> with some cheese
[16:43] <inetpro> pavlushka: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koeksister
[16:43] <Kilos> stop it now
[16:43] <Kilos> forget about food
[16:44] <pavlushka> Kilos, dont make me drool!
[16:47]  * chesedo sees inetpro also has good taste... can never get people that like sweet stuff
[16:51]  * Kilos loves chocolate and sweet stuffs but love salty stuff as well
[16:51] <Kilos> and raw mince with salt rocks
[16:51]  * Kilos waits for it
[16:52] <chesedo> Kilos: if you had one of both in front of you which would you pick?
[16:52] <Kilos> one what
[16:52] <Kilos> sweet and salty
[16:52] <Kilos> salty first of course
[16:52] <Kilos> sweet is pudding
[16:52] <chesedo> something sweet or salty?
[16:53] <chesedo> Kilos: you can only pick one?
[16:53] <Kilos> if i have the choice to buy a box of bacon kips or a chocolate the bacon kips wins
[16:53] <chesedo> lol, ok
[16:54] <Kilos> and raw seafood
[16:54]  * chesedo can comment there
[16:54] <chesedo> s/can/cannot/
[16:55] <Kilos> i used to eat mussels off the rocks
[16:55] <chesedo> you mean on the rocks :P
[16:55] <Kilos> no man you pick them off then eat them
[16:55] <Kilos> hehe
[16:56] <Kilos> but yes i used to sit on the rocks and eat
[16:56] <Kilos> and dive for crayfish
[16:56] <chesedo> yeah know... don't people who drink cocktails say "on the rocks"
[16:57] <Kilos> that i dont do. not even water out the fridge
[16:57] <chesedo> rofl
[16:57] <Kilos> peeps put those white stones in drinks
[16:57] <Kilos> yuck
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <Kilos> salty food
[16:59] <chesedo> lol, remeber the pudding
[17:00] <magespawn> good evening
[17:01] <chesedo> evening magespawn
[17:05] <pavlushka-> Link down.  :\
[17:18] <pavlushka-> Night guys!
[17:21] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[17:24] <magespawn> ty
[17:30] <magespawn> looks like a whole load of people bombing out
[17:38] <magespawn> so whats up Kilos ?
[17:41] <Kilos> not much magespawn temps down
[17:46] <Kilos> winter here
[17:46] <Kilos> maybe aven snow coming on the burg
[17:46] <Kilos> bombing out where???
[17:49] <superfly> boom!
[17:50] <Kilos> what am i missing
[17:51] <magespawn> Kilos peope dropping out the room
[17:51] <magespawn> people too
[17:51] <Kilos> where
[17:52] <Kilos> only a few
[17:52] <Kilos> inetpro winter is here
[17:52] <Kilos> 14/18°c tonight and tomorrow
[18:00] <Kilos> cold there superfly ??
[18:00] <Kilos> cold front just went over you today
[18:00] <superfly> Kilos: not really
[18:00] <Kilos> you also learning to enjoy the cold
[18:01] <Kilos> must be putting on weight
[18:09] <magespawn> who?  superfly?
[18:10] <superfly> Kilos: I've got a jersey on
[18:10] <Kilos> yeah he says its not really cold
[18:10] <Kilos> what about your ears and nose
[18:10] <Kilos> Maaz forecast capetown
[18:10] <Maaz> Kilos: The tubes are clogged!
[18:10] <Kilos> ai!
[18:10] <Kilos> Maaz weather in capetown
[18:10] <Maaz> Kilos: That site seems to be down
[18:13] <magespawn> lol Maaz is also feeling the cold
[18:14] <Kilos> yeah
[18:14]  * inetpro not feeling no cold
[18:14] <Kilos> tomorrow night 9°c
[18:15] <inetpro> minimum Kilos, minimum
[18:16] <Kilos> well the minimum is when you get the coldest
[18:16] <Kilos> and rain tomorrow so wet and cold
[18:36] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:41] <Cryterion> evening everyone
[18:56] <magespawn> hi Cryterion 
[19:47] <magespawn> time for bed, good night