[02:21] <kgb> ugh o/ hi guys, just a little help pls: to install Java (WHAT is, even, the latest version - JRE 9?!), which one of the CMDs do i run, 1) sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre, 2) sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer, 3) sudo apt-get install default-jre ?? Sun Java isn't needed with OPEN, right?.. but, what is the "default-jre" all about? o.0
[02:22] <Unit193> It's a dep package to pull in the recommended version.
[02:28] <kgb> Unit193: yes, ty!.. bt, is running the 'default' _somehow_ different o.0
[02:29] <kgb> *im so ignorant, omg. (sorz, it's mad-late, 4:30am)
[02:30] <kgb> & NO which won 2 run: openjdk-8-jre &/or default-jre :-0
[02:30] <Unit193> kgb: For the packages that need a runtime dep on java but it doesn't specifically matter which, they can depend on that.  Also means -9 can be in the repos, even if hardly tested or anything like that.
[02:31] <kgb> yessir, so it's just as i could understand it... ok, gotcha, tyvm!..
[02:53] <kgb> yay! \o/ http://i.imgur.com/3LSFNcb.png
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> hey guys
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> i got a possible drier problem when lauching a steam game
[12:01] <xubuntu97d> "missing basic opgl v1.o -> v2-0 required OpenGL functionality"
[12:02] <xubuntu97d> what would be the fix? xu 16
[12:12] <knome> xubuntu97d, for starters, xubuntu 16.04 is still beta, so expect breakage; additionally, you'd probably be better asking the steam support
[12:14] <xubuntu97d> I found it on arch, its the driver
[12:14] <xubuntu97d> A bug was introduced in nvidia 361.28 that prevents some games from launching with an error such as  "Missing basic OpenGL v1.0 -> v2.0 required OpenGL functionality."  You can update to 361.42 drivers
[12:15] <xubuntu97d> and 361.28 IS the newest driver you can have on xu 16
[12:26] <xubuntu97d> Hey guys, how do I install the new nvidia drivers from nvidia page?
[12:26] <xubuntu97d> aka 361.42
[12:26] <knome> xubuntu97d, you are running a beta OS; it's likely that the new drivers will land there sooner or later.
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> yes, xu 16
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> oh ok
[12:27] <knome> xubuntu97d, and fwiw, there is no "xubuntu 16", it's 16.04
[12:27] <xubuntu97d> yes yes, im just lazy
[14:35] <slee> hi, can someone with the app 'shutter' confirm that it can no longer upload to imgur.com? i've noticed the past 2 days it fails to upload
[14:35] <Unit193> xfce4-screenshooter can upload to imgur.
[14:40] <slee> i only see the option to upload to ZimageZ
[14:41] <Unit193> Trusty?
[14:41] <slee> yes
[14:42] <slee> version 1.8.1
[16:06] <xubuntu42w> Hello! I need install gala on xubuntu 14.04, but I can't. Because gala need depends libgala0 and others. How I do it?
[16:07] <xubuntu42w> How I install dependencies in xubuntu 14.04? libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:08] <xubuntu42w> Hello! I need install gala on xubuntu 14.04, but I can't. Because gala need depends libgala0 and others. How I do it?
[16:08] <xubuntu42w> How I install dependencies in xubuntu 14.04? libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:08] <knome> xubuntu42w, please
[16:09] <knome> xubuntu42w, we have heard your question, and are all volunteers, so please have some patience
[16:09] <xubuntu42w> I found that no one had seen, sorry!
[16:10] <knome> you waited for what, 2 minutes?
[16:10] <xubuntu42w> For more, if you need! I'm quiet now
[16:14] <knome> xubuntu42w, so where are you trying to install gala from anyway?
[16:15] <xubuntu42w> on xubuntu 14.04
[16:16] <xubuntu42w> I just wanted to know if there is such libs for this release. I've looked at several other places but did not.
[16:17] <xubuntu42w> libgala0 libplank0 and libgranite3?
[16:18] <knome> xubuntu42w, i asked where FROM?
[16:18] <knome> xubuntu42w, i don't think gala is in the 14.04 repositories if its dependencies aren't
[16:20] <xubuntu42w> haa. I try to instal using this repository sudo apt-add-repository ppa:elementary-os/daily
[16:20] <xubuntu42w> and sudo apt-add-repository ppa:elementary-os/testing
[16:21] <knome> xubuntu42w, ok, then please refer to the instructions the PPA maintainers are giving
[16:22] <xubuntu42w> I found this ppa in a tutorial. But ok! Thanks for you help. I think that I can't install gala on xubuntu 14.04, only xubuntu 12.02. But thanks again.
[16:25] <knome> you definitely can install it in 14.04 if it's in a PPA, but if you have a problem with that PPA, then the PPA maintainer is the best person to help you
[16:26] <xubuntu42w> Ok, thanks! I'm sorry for my haste!
[16:27] <xubuntu42w> Good job for you!
[17:07] <WangDang> Hi, at school where they use windows, I can ctrl-a ctrl-c in one programme (Rational Software Architect) to get a copy of the whole document, then crtl-v in another to paste it (word for example).  That appears not to work in xubuntu between Rational and Libreoffice.  Am I doing something wrong?
[17:09] <knome> WangDang, you could try hitting ctrl+c twice
[17:10] <WangDang> knome: ok, let me give that a try
[17:23] <adrian_1908> hello. Does anyone know if the common Thunar crashes have been fixed for 16.04?
[17:26] <knome> adrian_1908, it's being investigated.
[17:28] <adrian_1908> ok. it seems like this issue has been around forever, i hope the developers find a solution.
[17:28] <knome> me too, but since the source is yet unknown, it's a bit hard to come up with a fix
[17:30] <mrkramps> thunar seg faults?
[17:30] <knome> yes.
[17:31] <mrkramps> annoying
[17:42] <xubuntu866> hey guys, will it be possible to upgrade from xu 14 lts to 16 ?
[17:42] <mrkramps> yes
[17:42] <xubuntu866> sick, thanks
[17:43] <xubuntu866> is it advisable to wait a month to have all packages on it working well?
[17:43] <mrkramps> xubuntu866, personally i would recommend waiting for the first point release
[17:44] <xubuntu866> Okay, thanks!
[17:52] <WangDang> knome: no luck with a double crtl-c.  Any other suggestions?
[18:19] <nalbi> hi
[18:19] <nalbi> so, what's new in 15 ?
[18:20] <knome> there is no "xubuntu 15"
[18:20] <nalbi> been having some issues with the dropbox icon in 14
[18:20] <nalbi> hope thats resolved
[19:31] <Noneatme> so is there a date for the new lts?
[19:34] <krytarik> !16.04 | Noneatme
[19:43] <Noneatme> uuh nice
[20:42] <xubuntu574> just installed steam and this comes out when i try to run it on xu 14.04.... : ILocalize::AddFile() failed to load file "public/steambootstrapper_english.txt". [2016-04-05 22:40:39] Startup - updater built Nov 25 2013 18:07:05 SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[20:42] <xubuntu574> fix?
[20:43] <knome> xubuntu574, looks like a steam issue
[20:43] <knome> xubuntu574, maybe the steam support could have an idea
[20:44] <xubuntu574> i read a fix to delete all nvidia drivers except oo and steam reboot and install those again
[20:44] <knome> if you are willing to do that, then you can try it
[20:45] <xubuntu574> theres no risk is there? just have to use some oo drivers for 2 mins
[20:45] <xubuntu574> *os
[20:47] <knome> the open source drivers should general work quite well, maybe not with same performance though.
[20:47] <xubuntu574> well i hope theyre enough to reconfigure this mess, thanks
[22:28] <xubuntu653> hey guys! how do i tweak the windows settings the way so if i move a window to a corner/edge i sticks there?
[22:29] <xubuntu653> *it
[22:29] <xubuntu653> xu 14
[22:29] <knome> there is no "xubuntu 14".
[22:29] <xubuntu653> 14.04
[22:30] <xubuntu653> pls can we leave out the semantics
[22:30] <knome> ok
[22:30] <knome> here's how you do it
[22:30] <knome> ...and that's it!
[22:30] <knome> i just left out a bit of the semantics as you saw (:
[22:30] <xubuntu653> cool cool any other further steps