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DrDuckHow do you guys typically deal with the issue of changing your default python from python2.x to python3.x and getting errors when you try to install things?00:39
DrDuckThis is the exact issue I'm getting, but I don't want to revert back to python2.x: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32378963/debian-jessie-unable-to-install-modules-and-perform-upgrade00:40
Picidon't change what 'python' points to00:40
DrDuckPici, why not? Python 2.7 has been obsolete forever.00:40
Picipython is intended to point to python2, call python3 if you want to explicitly use python3.00:40
DrDuckWhyyyyyyy is it intended to point to 2?00:41
Picibecause that is how Ubuntu and most distros have decided00:41
wxlDrDuck: note that on the python software foundation page, 2.7 is offered as a download. it's not obsolete. https://www.python.org/downloads/00:43
DrDuckIt's just really messing my setup up to not point to python3, but I can't install anything if I don't point to 2 haha.00:43
PiciI beleive that gentoo and arch do have a python selection thing, but it tends to break python software, as most of it thinks that python should point to python2.00:45
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DrDuckCan someone please help me understand how I can decrease my sensitivity of my touchpad?06:09
DrDuckWhen I type it sometimes redirects to wherever my mouse is currently at and types text into that area06:10
hateballDrDuck: You should be able to disable the touchpad while typing, if that'd help?06:14
hateballhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Disable_touchpad_while_typing06:14
AlternateInstallHi. I am having problems when trying to install Lubuntu on my older machine.09:08
AlternateInstallI am using the alternate 32-bit install so it would fit on a CD. During the install, I get an error saying "The failing step is: select and install software".09:09
hateballsuch hurry to leave09:11
n-iCehi guys09:56
liquidsnakehi09:56
n-iCeis there a way to make lxterminal use copy as control + c ?09:56
n-iCecould not find a setting to do that09:57
n-iCeliquidsnake, hey! I'm using lubuntu!09:57
n-iCereally fast!!09:57
liquidsnakeyes indeed09:57
liquidsnakeand idk the answer to ur question sorry09:57
n-iCeoh, is ok.09:57
n-iCeliquidsnake, you use lubuntu?09:57
liquidsnakeyes sometimes09:57
liquidsnakei have multiple distros09:58
n-iCeoh, great09:58
n-iCein the same desktop?09:58
n-iCeor in different devices?09:58
liquidsnakeyep09:58
n-iCeoh, why? to test?09:58
liquidsnakenope same desktop09:58
liquidsnakejust to have variety09:58
liquidsnakelol09:59
n-iCeoh09:59
n-iCehehe09:59
n-iCewhich ones09:59
liquidsnakepuppy linux, linux mint, manjaro, xubuntu and lubuntu10:00
liquidsnakeyou just make separate partitions for each10:00
n-iCewow10:00
n-iCeand which one do you like them ost10:00
liquidsnakei like linux mint the most but lubuntu, puppy linux and xubuntu are the fastest10:01
liquidsnakebut i have an i7 with 12 gb ram so mine can run linux mint cinnamon just fine10:02
liquidsnakebut if u have older hardware then lubuntu, puppy linux and xubuntu are the ones to use10:03
n-iCewow10:03
n-iCenice machine!10:04
liquidsnakethnx10:04
liquidsnakei like it10:04
n-iCeWhere are you from?10:08
n-iCeEurope I guess.10:08
liquidsnakenope texas usa10:09
n-iCeoh, what time is it10:09
liquidsnake5:10am10:10
liquidsnakewhere are you?10:10
liquidsnakewhich reminds me i need to take my medicine10:13
liquidsnakebrb10:13
n-iCeMadrid.10:13
n-iCe12pm10:13
liquidsnakenice my grandpa is from Barcelona10:14
liquidsnakei'm half spaniard10:14
n-iCeI'm actually Mexican.10:15
n-iCeI have been in Europe, vacations.10:16
liquidsnakeoic well thats cool10:16
hateballn-iCe: ctrl+shift+c/v in terminal10:53
n-iCehateball, sorry?10:54
n-iCeyeah, but I want to change that to just ctrl + c10:54
hateballGood luck10:55
n-iCeSo, you don't know.10:55
hateballMore like I wouldnt want to replace the standard ctrl+c to stop running processes10:57
n-iCeso, do you know?10:58
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AlternateInstallHi everyone. I have an issue with the alternate install of Lubuntu I need some help with.13:11
hateball!help | AlternateInstall13:20
ubottuAlternateInstall: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:20
n-iCehi13:23
n-iCeAlternateInstall, tell us13:23
AlternateInstallI am trying to install Lubuntu on my older desktop w/ the alternate install on a CD. However, I get an error saying that "install and select software".13:33
AlternateInstall"An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software".13:34
AlternateInstallThis was during the install: http://imgur.com/6vcskcl13:42
AlternateInstallThis was when checking the disk: http://imgur.com/viUQSvJ13:43
n-iCehi13:51
n-iCeAlternateInstall, download the .iso again, and try again.13:51
n-iCemaybe was corrupted.13:51
hateballAlternateInstall: Which version and what hardware?13:51
AlternateInstallhateball: PC 32-bit standard image disk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO13:58
AlternateInstallI tried to check the disk one more time on the same machine, and this time it was successful (?): http://imgur.com/zO5JusG14:01
krytarikAlternateInstall: So it'd seem read errors on the CD.14:02
AlternateInstallkrytarik: So the DVD-player of my machine is read it wrong, but now right?14:04
krytarikAlternateInstall: Yes, it's either the CD as I said, or the player.14:05
AlternateInstallI was able to install Linux Mint Cinnamon on it yesterday, but it was somewhat laggy (512 mb RAM machine), so I wanted to try and install Lubuntu instead. I burned both these boot CD's with InfraRecorder.14:07
AlternateInstallI am in the process of trying to Lubuntu again now. Will see in a little bit whether the same error comes up or not.14:08
AlternateInstallNope, same error happened: http://imgur.com/6vcskcl14:19
krytarikAlternateInstall: So I'd try another CD/burn first.14:21
AlternateInstallkrytarik: With the same .iso file?14:21
AlternateInstallI need a 32-bit version that can fit on a 700MB CD-R.14:22
krytarik!md5sum14:22
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:22
AlternateInstallOk, I have now installed WinMd5Sum. I clicked "Send to" WinMd5Sum. Do I just click Calculate, and then compare?14:29
tewardyup14:31
AlternateInstall"Md5 Check Sums are different."15:13
AlternateInstallI do not have anything in the "compare" box though...15:15
AlternateInstallThe MD5 Checksum of the .iso is the same one as this here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/MD5SUMS15:19
tewardAlternateInstall: you get the MD5 sum from the list in that MD5SUMS page, and put that in the COmpare box.  Then hit compare.15:20
tewardjust for the record ;)15:21
AlternateInstallteward: Yes, the values are the same. Should I try and burn another disk with the .iso on another 700MB CD-R?15:24
AlternateInstallIs this the only chat for Lubuntu? The Linux Mint chat is so populated at all times compared to this one I feel...16:36
PiciAlternateInstall: Theres #ubuntu, which you can use if your question is flavor agnostic.16:37
n-iCeAlternateInstall, yeah16:37
n-iCeAlternateInstall, but we are here.16:37
n-iCemaybe in silence, but here.16:37
AlternateInstallI got it to work. I used the 2nd CD-drive on the desktop, and it worked.18:12
Doranwenone quick question--managed to get Lubuntu on a really old computer where the Ethernet doesn't work and the wifi card is virtually unusable (DuckDuckGo wouldn't load properly after 30 secs, it was that slow); had to use an alternate install disc to get it on there, and the software sources won't refresh, even when I turn off the 'net sources and tell it to use the CD20:05
Doranwenis there any way to--on my Mint comp at home--download all the deb files (including dependencies) required for various programs in order to install them manually?  so far manual installation seems to be the best solution, but tracking down every last dependency separately is a royal pain, lol20:06
DoranwenI'm going to be giving it to a low-income family for their kids to practice English and play educational games and type and such, so I'm only putting on things like gcompris and tuxmath and whatnot; so far I can find all the packages I need at pkgs.org but was hoping there was a shortcut to methodically going through the required list for every single dependency and their dependencies . . .20:07
ianorlynDoranwen, you could take the drive out if you have another computer that takes that kind of disk20:08
Doranwenlol, there is that . . . technically I could, but the way it's fixed in the case is tricky for me to work with20:09
DoranwenI was kinda hoping to avoid any mucking around in the case20:10
DoranwenI really don't mind installing a slew of deb files20:10
Doranwenit's the finding and downloading them one by one that's a pain20:10
Doranwenthough if I do it at home, it might not be that bad20:10
Doranwenthe other comps at school are almost as slow, and it was slowing the neighbor comp down to a crawl having the tabs open as I worked my way through them20:11
krytarik!offline | Doranwen20:11
ubottuDoranwen: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD20:11
Doranwenahh20:12
DoranwenI'll go take a look at that20:12
Doranwenthanks20:12
krytarikSure.20:12
Doranwenknew there had to be something, but I'd never done it20:12
Doranwenhmm20:15
Doranwenit looks like it'll download the ones for my OS20:15
Doranwenbut I'm on Mint 13 64-bit here at home, whereas this is a Lubuntu 15.10 32-bit machine it's going to go to20:15
* Doranwen has to go eat lunch and cook, may return to work on this later20:17
AlternateInstallHello everyone.21:01
AlternateInstallHow is everyone doing today?21:22
krytarik!ot | AlternateInstall21:24
ubottuAlternateInstall: #lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!21:24
AlternateInstallkrytarik: Thank you for helping me earlier. I appreciate it a lot.21:25
krytarikYou are welcome.21:25
james1138Question to the group... what is the average boot time for Lubuntu 14.0.4.4? I am using Kernal 4.5 on a IBM Thinkpad T43.23:01
ianorlynjames1138, booting from what23:02
ianorlynssd is way faster than a spinning hard disk just in terms of hardware23:02
james1138From hitting the power button23:02
james1138My average time is about 50 seconds to 1 minute23:03
LargePrimei got a ssd system that does not even hit the lbuntu screen23:03
LargePrimelike 5 sec boot23:03
LargePrimehow can i tell what is starting ssh-agent?23:05
james1138I wonder... would apps that have fewer dependienes be faster?23:10
LargePrimedepends if they are already loaded?23:10
james1138IIf they were not loaded?23:12
LargePrimeunloaded dependencies would need to be loaded, so one assumes few of them would be less loading23:12

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