[00:39] <DrDuck> How do you guys typically deal with the issue of changing your default python from python2.x to python3.x and getting errors when you try to install things?
[00:40] <DrDuck> This is the exact issue I'm getting, but I don't want to revert back to python2.x: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32378963/debian-jessie-unable-to-install-modules-and-perform-upgrade
[00:40] <Pici> don't change what 'python' points to
[00:40] <DrDuck> Pici, why not? Python 2.7 has been obsolete forever.
[00:40] <Pici> python is intended to point to python2, call python3 if you want to explicitly use python3.
[00:41] <DrDuck> Whyyyyyyy is it intended to point to 2?
[00:41] <Pici> because that is how Ubuntu and most distros have decided
[00:43] <wxl> DrDuck: note that on the python software foundation page, 2.7 is offered as a download. it's not obsolete. https://www.python.org/downloads/
[00:43] <DrDuck> It's just really messing my setup up to not point to python3, but I can't install anything if I don't point to 2 haha.
[00:45] <Pici> I beleive that gentoo and arch do have a python selection thing, but it tends to break python software, as most of it thinks that python should point to python2.
[06:09] <DrDuck> Can someone please help me understand how I can decrease my sensitivity of my touchpad?
[06:10] <DrDuck> When I type it sometimes redirects to wherever my mouse is currently at and types text into that area
[06:14] <hateball> DrDuck: You should be able to disable the touchpad while typing, if that'd help?
[06:14] <hateball> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Disable_touchpad_while_typing
[09:08] <AlternateInstall> Hi. I am having problems when trying to install Lubuntu on my older machine.
[09:09] <AlternateInstall> I am using the alternate 32-bit install so it would fit on a CD. During the install, I get an error saying "The failing step is: select and install software".
[09:11] <hateball> such hurry to leave
[09:56] <n-iCe> hi guys
[09:56] <liquidsnake> hi
[09:56] <n-iCe> is there a way to make lxterminal use copy as control + c ?
[09:57] <n-iCe> could not find a setting to do that
[09:57] <n-iCe> liquidsnake, hey! I'm using lubuntu!
[09:57] <n-iCe> really fast!!
[09:57] <liquidsnake> yes indeed
[09:57] <liquidsnake> and idk the answer to ur question sorry
[09:57] <n-iCe> oh, is ok.
[09:57] <n-iCe> liquidsnake, you use lubuntu?
[09:57] <liquidsnake> yes sometimes
[09:58] <liquidsnake> i have multiple distros
[09:58] <n-iCe> oh, great
[09:58] <n-iCe> in the same desktop?
[09:58] <n-iCe> or in different devices?
[09:58] <liquidsnake> yep
[09:58] <n-iCe> oh, why? to test?
[09:58] <liquidsnake> nope same desktop
[09:58] <liquidsnake> just to have variety
[09:59] <liquidsnake> lol
[09:59] <n-iCe> oh
[09:59] <n-iCe> hehe
[09:59] <n-iCe> which ones
[10:00] <liquidsnake> puppy linux, linux mint, manjaro, xubuntu and lubuntu
[10:00] <liquidsnake> you just make separate partitions for each
[10:00] <n-iCe> wow
[10:00] <n-iCe> and which one do you like them ost
[10:01] <liquidsnake> i like linux mint the most but lubuntu, puppy linux and xubuntu are the fastest
[10:02] <liquidsnake> but i have an i7 with 12 gb ram so mine can run linux mint cinnamon just fine
[10:03] <liquidsnake> but if u have older hardware then lubuntu, puppy linux and xubuntu are the ones to use
[10:03] <n-iCe> wow
[10:04] <n-iCe> nice machine!
[10:04] <liquidsnake> thnx
[10:04] <liquidsnake> i like it
[10:08] <n-iCe> Where are you from?
[10:08] <n-iCe> Europe I guess.
[10:09] <liquidsnake> nope texas usa
[10:09] <n-iCe> oh, what time is it
[10:10] <liquidsnake> 5:10am
[10:10] <liquidsnake> where are you?
[10:13] <liquidsnake> which reminds me i need to take my medicine
[10:13] <liquidsnake> brb
[10:13] <n-iCe> Madrid.
[10:13] <n-iCe> 12pm
[10:14] <liquidsnake> nice my grandpa is from Barcelona
[10:14] <liquidsnake> i'm half spaniard
[10:15] <n-iCe> I'm actually Mexican.
[10:16] <n-iCe> I have been in Europe, vacations.
[10:16] <liquidsnake> oic well thats cool
[10:53] <hateball> n-iCe: ctrl+shift+c/v in terminal
[10:54] <n-iCe> hateball, sorry?
[10:54] <n-iCe> yeah, but I want to change that to just ctrl + c
[10:55] <hateball> Good luck
[10:55] <n-iCe> So, you don't know.
[10:57] <hateball> More like I wouldnt want to replace the standard ctrl+c to stop running processes
[10:58] <n-iCe> so, do you know?
[13:11] <AlternateInstall> Hi everyone. I have an issue with the alternate install of Lubuntu I need some help with.
[13:20] <hateball> !help | AlternateInstall
[13:23] <n-iCe> hi
[13:23] <n-iCe> AlternateInstall, tell us
[13:33] <AlternateInstall> I am trying to install Lubuntu on my older desktop w/ the alternate install on a CD. However, I get an error saying that "install and select software".
[13:34] <AlternateInstall> "An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software".
[13:42] <AlternateInstall> This was during the install: http://imgur.com/6vcskcl
[13:43] <AlternateInstall> This was when checking the disk: http://imgur.com/viUQSvJ
[13:51] <n-iCe> hi
[13:51] <n-iCe> AlternateInstall, download the .iso again, and try again.
[13:51] <n-iCe> maybe was corrupted.
[13:51] <hateball> AlternateInstall: Which version and what hardware?
[13:58] <AlternateInstall> hateball: PC 32-bit standard image disk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[14:01] <AlternateInstall> I tried to check the disk one more time on the same machine, and this time it was successful (?): http://imgur.com/zO5JusG
[14:02] <krytarik> AlternateInstall: So it'd seem read errors on the CD.
[14:04] <AlternateInstall> krytarik: So the DVD-player of my machine is read it wrong, but now right?
[14:05] <krytarik> AlternateInstall: Yes, it's either the CD as I said, or the player.
[14:07] <AlternateInstall> I was able to install Linux Mint Cinnamon on it yesterday, but it was somewhat laggy (512 mb RAM machine), so I wanted to try and install Lubuntu instead. I burned both these boot CD's with InfraRecorder.
[14:08] <AlternateInstall> I am in the process of trying to Lubuntu again now. Will see in a little bit whether the same error comes up or not.
[14:19] <AlternateInstall> Nope, same error happened: http://imgur.com/6vcskcl
[14:21] <krytarik> AlternateInstall: So I'd try another CD/burn first.
[14:21] <AlternateInstall> krytarik: With the same .iso file?
[14:22] <AlternateInstall> I need a 32-bit version that can fit on a 700MB CD-R.
[14:22] <krytarik> !md5sum
[14:29] <AlternateInstall> Ok, I have now installed WinMd5Sum. I clicked "Send to" WinMd5Sum. Do I just click Calculate, and then compare?
[14:31] <teward> yup
[15:13] <AlternateInstall> "Md5 Check Sums are different."
[15:15] <AlternateInstall> I do not have anything in the "compare" box though...
[15:19] <AlternateInstall> The MD5 Checksum of the .iso is the same one as this here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/MD5SUMS
[15:20] <teward> AlternateInstall: you get the MD5 sum from the list in that MD5SUMS page, and put that in the COmpare box.  Then hit compare.
[15:21] <teward> just for the record ;)
[15:24] <AlternateInstall> teward: Yes, the values are the same. Should I try and burn another disk with the .iso on another 700MB CD-R?
[16:36] <AlternateInstall> Is this the only chat for Lubuntu? The Linux Mint chat is so populated at all times compared to this one I feel...
[16:37] <Pici> AlternateInstall: Theres #ubuntu, which you can use if your question is flavor agnostic.
[16:37] <n-iCe> AlternateInstall, yeah
[16:37] <n-iCe> AlternateInstall, but we are here.
[16:37] <n-iCe> maybe in silence, but here.
[18:12] <AlternateInstall> I got it to work. I used the 2nd CD-drive on the desktop, and it worked.
[20:05] <Doranwen> one quick question--managed to get Lubuntu on a really old computer where the Ethernet doesn't work and the wifi card is virtually unusable (DuckDuckGo wouldn't load properly after 30 secs, it was that slow); had to use an alternate install disc to get it on there, and the software sources won't refresh, even when I turn off the 'net sources and tell it to use the CD
[20:06] <Doranwen> is there any way to--on my Mint comp at home--download all the deb files (including dependencies) required for various programs in order to install them manually?  so far manual installation seems to be the best solution, but tracking down every last dependency separately is a royal pain, lol
[20:07] <Doranwen> I'm going to be giving it to a low-income family for their kids to practice English and play educational games and type and such, so I'm only putting on things like gcompris and tuxmath and whatnot; so far I can find all the packages I need at pkgs.org but was hoping there was a shortcut to methodically going through the required list for every single dependency and their dependencies . . .
[20:08] <ianorlyn> Doranwen, you could take the drive out if you have another computer that takes that kind of disk
[20:09] <Doranwen> lol, there is that . . . technically I could, but the way it's fixed in the case is tricky for me to work with
[20:10] <Doranwen> I was kinda hoping to avoid any mucking around in the case
[20:10] <Doranwen> I really don't mind installing a slew of deb files
[20:10] <Doranwen> it's the finding and downloading them one by one that's a pain
[20:10] <Doranwen> though if I do it at home, it might not be that bad
[20:11] <Doranwen> the other comps at school are almost as slow, and it was slowing the neighbor comp down to a crawl having the tabs open as I worked my way through them
[20:11] <krytarik> !offline | Doranwen
[20:12] <Doranwen> ahh
[20:12] <Doranwen> I'll go take a look at that
[20:12] <Doranwen> thanks
[20:12] <krytarik> Sure.
[20:12] <Doranwen> knew there had to be something, but I'd never done it
[20:15] <Doranwen> hmm
[20:15] <Doranwen> it looks like it'll download the ones for my OS
[20:15] <Doranwen> but I'm on Mint 13 64-bit here at home, whereas this is a Lubuntu 15.10 32-bit machine it's going to go to
[20:17]  * Doranwen has to go eat lunch and cook, may return to work on this later
[21:01] <AlternateInstall> Hello everyone.
[21:22] <AlternateInstall> How is everyone doing today?
[21:24] <krytarik> !ot | AlternateInstall
[21:25] <AlternateInstall> krytarik: Thank you for helping me earlier. I appreciate it a lot.
[21:25] <krytarik> You are welcome.
[23:01] <james1138> Question to the group... what is the average boot time for Lubuntu 14.0.4.4? I am using Kernal 4.5 on a IBM Thinkpad T43.
[23:02] <ianorlyn> james1138, booting from what
[23:02] <ianorlyn> ssd is way faster than a spinning hard disk just in terms of hardware
[23:02] <james1138> From hitting the power button
[23:03] <james1138> My average time is about 50 seconds to 1 minute
[23:03] <LargePrime> i got a ssd system that does not even hit the lbuntu screen
[23:03] <LargePrime> like 5 sec boot
[23:05] <LargePrime> how can i tell what is starting ssh-agent?
[23:10] <james1138> I wonder... would apps that have fewer dependienes be faster?
[23:10] <LargePrime> depends if they are already loaded?
[23:12] <james1138> IIf they were not loaded?
[23:12] <LargePrime> unloaded dependencies would need to be loaded, so one assumes few of them would be less loading