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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.06:40
davmor2Morning all08:23
davmor2well that was a worrying start to the day, 10 minutes after I finished work yesterday the interwebs disappeared 10 minutes after I start today they come back just while I was setting up my mifi for working at all day \o/  win08:25
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Tartan Day! 😃09:04
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ali1234it's out18:16
ali1234build 14316 is downloading18:16
popeyhow do you get it?18:18
popey"it"18:18
popeyaha https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/18:19
ali1234yeah, that18:19
popeyneat18:19
ali1234oh i see the problem19:06
ali1234windows is uploading at the maximum possible speed19:06
ali1234jamming up the router19:06
ali1234haven't seen this since about 200219:06
daftykinsali1234: would you not want to use the max speed? granted you've got that quite anaemic connection?21:15
ali1234no the problem is it's uploading at the maximum speed21:16
ali1234the download speed then drops to a few kb21:16
daftykinswhat's uploading?21:16
ali1234no idea21:16
daftykinshmm bit of sherlock sleuthing in task manager with network IO columns added perhaps21:17
daftykinsi'm finding the task manager so much nicer to watch network IO vs. 721:17
ali1234well now it is refusing to do anything at all21:19
daftykinswhat should it be doing? downloading this new release?21:20
ali1234yes21:20
daftykinsif it's just come out it could be bogged down providing it21:21
daftykinsthe % indicator can give some clues, however21:21
ali1234the traffic is due to service host: local system21:23
ali1234windows insider service, delivery optimization, windows update, a bunch of other stuff21:24
ali1234total network usage: send: 80 Kbps, receive 5.8Mbps21:24
ali1234all other computers on my LAN get really slow internet unless i unplug the cable from the win10 VM, then it works fine21:25
daftykinsyeah i don't think you can cap BITS21:31
daftykinsi think that's more a sign of the funky issues on your line giving you a slow service than much else21:31
daftykinssaturating any xDSL's downstream never gridlocked the rest of a LAN for me21:31
daftykinsit'd be nice if MS would just post new media21:32
ali1234lol now it it's started downloading the iso again from scratch21:48
daftykinswhat makes you say that? it doesn't get an ISO, but the files21:50
ali1234well i can't see any other reason why it would need to download 4GB of data21:51
daftykinscould've corrupted something i guess, i think it grabs the install.wim in one go21:52
daftykinsyou would think BITS would prevent a failure of that kind though, given it's almost torrent like :/21:53
awilkinsBackground Idiotic Transfer System22:18
daftykinsmmm 3.8GB image for that latest build22:38
diddledanweird. installed a new marvell sata card into my pc and linux promptly refused to start until I turned-on the IOMMU22:53
diddledanapparently linux defaults to hijacking the GART for IOMMU use unless you tell it you've got a real IOMMU in your chip (and that you've got BIOS support for the same and it's enabled)22:54
diddledanand that GART-based mess dies with marvell chips22:54
daftykinsneeded more SATA ports and dualbooting from a drive attached to said marvell now?22:55
diddledannope22:55
diddledanjust needed more ports period22:55
daftykinsah22:56
diddledanthe dualbooting is using my mobo sata chip which has never had any problems22:56
daftykins*nod* didn't even expect you dualbooted was all :)22:56
daftykinsi am muchly excited, finally took the plunge and ordered some bits for a new desktop... first upgrade since December 200722:57
diddledanyeah. I flipflop because I can't settle on a single choice22:57
zmoylan-pia desktop... i remember those...22:59
daftykinsnow now, just because you don't use one ;)23:04
zmoylan-pinot any more. used to love them.  a full tower at work, a mini tower at home23:04
zmoylan-pinow a rasp pi is so close to doing what i want... :-)23:05
daftykinsi love me some multi tasking and virtualisation23:05
zmoylan-pii would like if they standardised on external drives in size so they were more stackable23:05
daftykinshehe, never happen23:08
zmoylan-pithe marketing department loves their exciting shapes...23:08
daftykinsoddly enough i think the 2.5" bus powered portables i've bought over the years are still working now, yet desktop ones with mains adapters to drive them have all conked out (for clients)23:09
ali1234oh hey it finished downloading23:09
daftykinscan't rule out them abusing the things mind you23:10
zmoylan-pia client abuse hardware... that would never happen...23:10
daftykins:D23:10
daftykinsperish the thought indeed!23:10
daftykinscould always get yourself a nice consumer 2-4 bay NAS and swap disks as need be ;)23:11
zmoylan-piwhat putting the pc on a shop floor and having a drone mop the floor would rust the pc... why didn't you tell us that would happen?!23:11
daftykinsi wonder if the steel company i look after have made up the metal trays i suggested they put their PCs on to save them from the dust brought in. It's not like they have a metal work warehouse immediately outside the office mind y... oh they do23:12
daftykins8D23:13
zmoylan-pii'm sure i told you of the 386 we put it tights to keep the dust out in a metal working shop...23:13
daftykinshahaha :D23:14
daftykinsi'll suggest that one next time!23:14
daftykinsthere was an article on thereg where some folks decided to cover everything internally with kitchen cling film...23:15
ali1234how do you save a file with edge?23:15
daftykinspass, don't use it.23:15
* daftykins pokes diddledan 23:15
zmoylan-piwith one leg hanging over the floppy drive with a hole cut in bottom so that you could insert floppy without leaving a gap for dust to get in23:15
diddledan\o/23:15
diddledanali1234: right-click it?23:16
ali1234yeah i did that and it saved it as a htm file23:16
zmoylan-piyeah, i read theregister clingfilm whoopsie... i mentioned the tights in the comments :-)23:16
daftykinszmoylan-pi: :D23:17
diddledanzmoylan-pi: I hope your floppies had protection23:17
zmoylan-piit was one of those silly things you do and it worked.23:17
diddledaninserting random floppies into your drive is dangerous23:17
zmoylan-piyeah the floppy drive worked fine.  the disks were kept in box and not left out for metal dust to deposit on23:18
diddledanzmoylan-pi: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m947hukfRr1qfje60.jpg23:18
daftykinssafety first!23:19
ali1234okay... it's downloading ubuntu now23:56

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