[05:16] <mapps> hi
[05:26] <nige_> hi
[05:27] <nige_> anyone here
[05:34] <mapps> yes
[05:34] <mapps> oh
[05:38] <mapps> brooklyn 99 is so cool;d
[05:49] <mapps> anyone watch
[06:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:23] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:25] <davmor2> well that was a worrying start to the day, 10 minutes after I finished work yesterday the interwebs disappeared 10 minutes after I start today they come back just while I was setting up my mifi for working at all day \o/  win
[09:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Tartan Day! 😃
[18:16] <ali1234> it's out
[18:16] <ali1234> build 14316 is downloading
[18:18] <popey> how do you get it?
[18:18] <popey> "it"
[18:19] <popey> aha https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/
[18:19] <ali1234> yeah, that
[18:19] <popey> neat
[19:06] <ali1234> oh i see the problem
[19:06] <ali1234> windows is uploading at the maximum possible speed
[19:06] <ali1234> jamming up the router
[19:06] <ali1234> haven't seen this since about 2002
[21:15] <daftykins> ali1234: would you not want to use the max speed? granted you've got that quite anaemic connection?
[21:16] <ali1234> no the problem is it's uploading at the maximum speed
[21:16] <ali1234> the download speed then drops to a few kb
[21:16] <daftykins> what's uploading?
[21:16] <ali1234> no idea
[21:17] <daftykins> hmm bit of sherlock sleuthing in task manager with network IO columns added perhaps
[21:17] <daftykins> i'm finding the task manager so much nicer to watch network IO vs. 7
[21:19] <ali1234> well now it is refusing to do anything at all
[21:20] <daftykins> what should it be doing? downloading this new release?
[21:20] <ali1234> yes
[21:21] <daftykins> if it's just come out it could be bogged down providing it
[21:21] <daftykins> the % indicator can give some clues, however
[21:23] <ali1234> the traffic is due to service host: local system
[21:24] <ali1234> windows insider service, delivery optimization, windows update, a bunch of other stuff
[21:24] <ali1234> total network usage: send: 80 Kbps, receive 5.8Mbps
[21:25] <ali1234> all other computers on my LAN get really slow internet unless i unplug the cable from the win10 VM, then it works fine
[21:31] <daftykins> yeah i don't think you can cap BITS
[21:31] <daftykins> i think that's more a sign of the funky issues on your line giving you a slow service than much else
[21:31] <daftykins> saturating any xDSL's downstream never gridlocked the rest of a LAN for me
[21:32] <daftykins> it'd be nice if MS would just post new media
[21:48] <ali1234> lol now it it's started downloading the iso again from scratch
[21:50] <daftykins> what makes you say that? it doesn't get an ISO, but the files
[21:51] <ali1234> well i can't see any other reason why it would need to download 4GB of data
[21:52] <daftykins> could've corrupted something i guess, i think it grabs the install.wim in one go
[21:53] <daftykins> you would think BITS would prevent a failure of that kind though, given it's almost torrent like :/
[22:18] <awilkins> Background Idiotic Transfer System
[22:38] <daftykins> mmm 3.8GB image for that latest build
[22:53] <diddledan> weird. installed a new marvell sata card into my pc and linux promptly refused to start until I turned-on the IOMMU
[22:54] <diddledan> apparently linux defaults to hijacking the GART for IOMMU use unless you tell it you've got a real IOMMU in your chip (and that you've got BIOS support for the same and it's enabled)
[22:54] <diddledan> and that GART-based mess dies with marvell chips
[22:55] <daftykins> needed more SATA ports and dualbooting from a drive attached to said marvell now?
[22:55] <diddledan> nope
[22:55] <diddledan> just needed more ports period
[22:56] <daftykins> ah
[22:56] <diddledan> the dualbooting is using my mobo sata chip which has never had any problems
[22:56] <daftykins> *nod* didn't even expect you dualbooted was all :)
[22:57] <daftykins> i am muchly excited, finally took the plunge and ordered some bits for a new desktop... first upgrade since December 2007
[22:57] <diddledan> yeah. I flipflop because I can't settle on a single choice
[22:59] <zmoylan-pi> a desktop... i remember those...
[23:04] <daftykins> now now, just because you don't use one ;)
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> not any more. used to love them.  a full tower at work, a mini tower at home
[23:05] <zmoylan-pi> now a rasp pi is so close to doing what i want... :-)
[23:05] <daftykins> i love me some multi tasking and virtualisation
[23:05] <zmoylan-pi> i would like if they standardised on external drives in size so they were more stackable
[23:08] <daftykins> hehe, never happen
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> the marketing department loves their exciting shapes...
[23:09] <daftykins> oddly enough i think the 2.5" bus powered portables i've bought over the years are still working now, yet desktop ones with mains adapters to drive them have all conked out (for clients)
[23:09] <ali1234> oh hey it finished downloading
[23:10] <daftykins> can't rule out them abusing the things mind you
[23:10] <zmoylan-pi> a client abuse hardware... that would never happen...
[23:10] <daftykins> :D
[23:10] <daftykins> perish the thought indeed!
[23:11] <daftykins> could always get yourself a nice consumer 2-4 bay NAS and swap disks as need be ;)
[23:11] <zmoylan-pi> what putting the pc on a shop floor and having a drone mop the floor would rust the pc... why didn't you tell us that would happen?!
[23:12] <daftykins> i wonder if the steel company i look after have made up the metal trays i suggested they put their PCs on to save them from the dust brought in. It's not like they have a metal work warehouse immediately outside the office mind y... oh they do
[23:13] <daftykins> 8D
[23:13] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure i told you of the 386 we put it tights to keep the dust out in a metal working shop...
[23:14] <daftykins> hahaha :D
[23:14] <daftykins> i'll suggest that one next time!
[23:15] <daftykins> there was an article on thereg where some folks decided to cover everything internally with kitchen cling film...
[23:15] <ali1234> how do you save a file with edge?
[23:15] <daftykins> pass, don't use it.
[23:15]  * daftykins pokes diddledan 
[23:15] <zmoylan-pi> with one leg hanging over the floppy drive with a hole cut in bottom so that you could insert floppy without leaving a gap for dust to get in
[23:15] <diddledan> \o/
[23:16] <diddledan> ali1234: right-click it?
[23:16] <ali1234> yeah i did that and it saved it as a htm file
[23:16] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, i read theregister clingfilm whoopsie... i mentioned the tights in the comments :-)
[23:17] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: :D
[23:17] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: I hope your floppies had protection
[23:17] <zmoylan-pi> it was one of those silly things you do and it worked.
[23:17] <diddledan> inserting random floppies into your drive is dangerous
[23:18] <zmoylan-pi> yeah the floppy drive worked fine.  the disks were kept in box and not left out for metal dust to deposit on
[23:18] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m947hukfRr1qfje60.jpg
[23:19] <daftykins> safety first!
[23:56] <ali1234> okay... it's downloading ubuntu now