| Guest0 | hi all. im having trouble with installing server to a multipath target. i'm using the "install disk-device/././." option, but not getting a multipath device in the partitioning step.. going to another tty and running multipath -l shows me "mpatha is being ignored". there's no xenial bugs regarding multipath on launchpad. can anyone suggest the next step in diagnosing why mpatha is being ignored? | 01:48 |
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| Fudge | does anyone know if xenial universe exists? | 02:18 |
| krytarik | Fudge: Of course. | 02:20 |
| Fudge | ok, just was getting a sum mismatch on use.archive.ubuntu.com | 02:21 |
| krytarik | Fudge: Try again later, or try a different mirror. | 02:30 |
| Pwnna | is there any way to get openjdk7 back in 16.04? | 02:32 |
| EOBeav | I'm sure there will be a ppa to get it | 02:34 |
| Pwnna | i guess i can make that ppa >_> | 02:39 |
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| === Guest0 is now known as thisguy | ||
| lotuspsychje | kernel freeze today | 05:44 |
| PETsounds | Hai, any reason why Xenial are not using Ffmpeg 3 ? | 05:59 |
| lotuspsychje | !info ffmpeg xenial | 06:01 |
| ubottu | ffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): Tools for transcoding, streaming and playing of multimedia files. In component universe, is optional. Version 7:2.8.6-1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 1271 kB, installed size 1891 kB | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | !latest | PETsounds | 06:01 |
| ubottu | PETsounds: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 06:01 |
| dax | because ffmpeg 3 came out on February 15th, which is pretty late in the release cycle to be pulling in new major versions of widely-used packages, i expect | 06:05 |
| ladyTalus | Regards. | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: few weeks indeed | 06:22 |
| ladyTalus | All the best coders are hard at work right around the clock right now. | 06:23 |
| ladyTalus | It should be good. | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: its already good | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | running daily here pretty stable | 06:23 |
| ladyTalus | I've chosen to stick with 15.10 until doing a full upgrade. | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-598369242 | 06:24 |
| ladyTalus | That does look impressive. | 06:24 |
| ladyTalus | I always encourage the coders to get the first impression right. Give the user a good "wow" moment when they enter the fold. | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-601374206 | 06:27 |
| lotuspsychje | and here my netbook | 06:27 |
| ladyTalus | that's unity? | 06:28 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 06:29 |
| ladyTalus | the netbook has no problem with it? | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: with a tweaked launcher to bottom | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: 4gig ram and samsung 850 pro ssd inside, unity is like a rocket :p | 06:29 |
| ladyTalus | which cpu? | 06:30 |
| lotuspsychje | 6sec boot, 3 sec halt | 06:30 |
| ladyTalus | which CPU? | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: amd ft1 | 06:32 |
| ladyTalus | single thread passmark = ? | 06:32 |
| ladyTalus | my mini pc handles like a dream but my single thread passmark is over 1000. | 06:33 |
| ladyTalus | however the cpu is not so overpowered that i feel as though i am never pushing it. | 06:33 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664405/ | 06:33 |
| ladyTalus | what do you call the cpu when you buy it? | 06:35 |
| ladyTalus | http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E-300+APU | 06:35 |
| ladyTalus | yours is only 1GHz. | 06:35 |
| ladyTalus | that there is 1.3. | 06:35 |
| ladyTalus | But look how low the single thread is even at 300MHz more. | 06:36 |
| ladyTalus | 342 single thread?? | 06:36 |
| ladyTalus | when you check for software updates how long does it take to complete? | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: that depends how big the updates are | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: on ssd everything goes fsater | 06:37 |
| ladyTalus | but doesn't anything meaningful on that PC lag badly? | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | faster | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | nop | 06:37 |
| ladyTalus | what if you use something like veracrypt? It must take 5 minutes just to mount a container. | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: its a netbook... i dont use heavy works on it | 06:37 |
| ladyTalus | i've never seen someone satisfied with a CPU with a single thread score of less than 350. | 06:38 |
| ladyTalus | for reference, the broadwell celeron has a single thread of 800 or so. | 06:38 |
| lotuspsychje | you focus too much on cpu | 06:38 |
| lotuspsychje | i rather have an overal smooth system | 06:39 |
| ladyTalus | i browse with a dual core 1.9GHz and when i look at system monitor i see both cores getting a good workout | 06:39 |
| ladyTalus | just browsing around the web. | 06:39 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: how fast does your pc unpack a 4gig rar? | 06:42 |
| ladyTalus | Never yet tried. I have a speedy mSATA and 8GB of RAM. | 06:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: wich hd brand? | 06:42 |
| ladyTalus | But I don't feel like my system is overpowered except for having at least 2GB more RAM than I ever need. | 06:43 |
| ladyTalus | Kingston. | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | ssd? | 06:43 |
| ladyTalus | Yes. It's an mSATA. I'll show you. | 06:43 |
| ladyTalus | http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Notebooks-Ultrabooks-SMS200S3-60G/dp/B00COFMPAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460011420&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+msata+60gb | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 06:44 |
| ladyTalus | It's an impressive piece of technology and only $40 now. | 06:45 |
| ladyTalus | For an extra 60GB you can get the 120GB for only $52. | 06:45 |
| lotuspsychje | i payed 94 for my samsung pro 850 128gig | 06:45 |
| ladyTalus | how long ago? | 06:46 |
| lotuspsychje | yesterday | 06:46 |
| lotuspsychje | 94 euro that is | 06:46 |
| ladyTalus | Really?? | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | You bought it yesterday? | 06:47 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | Your netbook was bought yesterday? | 06:47 |
| lotuspsychje | plugged my evo in my desktop | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | or upgraded yesterday? | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | Oh. | 06:47 |
| lotuspsychje | upgraded | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDt42Vs-teI&list=PLhj6R3nBEgyIdyIVKV2XDfDUdyhcWsWpw&index=11&nohtml5=False | 06:47 |
| ladyTalus | Listen here and tell me how that sounds on your headphones or speakers. | 06:48 |
| ladyTalus | I just upgraded my sound card by plugging in a USB device as shown here: | 06:48 |
| ladyTalus | http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UCA202-Audio-Interface/dp/B000KW2YEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460011712&sr=8-1&keywords=behringer+usb+sound | 06:48 |
| ladyTalus | Now my sound settings as configured for Digital Stereo Out. | 06:48 |
| ladyTalus | The sound quality is an outstanding and a noticeable improvement from using the sound card built in my PC. | 06:49 |
| lotuspsychje | ladyTalus: perhaps we should move this to #ubuntu-discuss, keep the room free for xenial issues :p | 06:50 |
| Light_ | How is the beta looking is it looking like the LTS release will be good or bad? | 07:24 |
| Light_ | Can you download a beta or alpha of 16.04? | 08:04 |
| server_ | Hello. Kernel update linux-image-4.4.0-16-generic broke my DELL Inspiron 7599. VLC stopped working and VPN stopped working, also on reboot only got black screen. I did apt-get purge of that kernel but VLC and vpn are still not working. How can I fix? I tried to reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-14-generic in case that would fix things but it could not be reinstalled. | 08:26 |
| server_ | DELL Inspiron has skylake and nvidia geforce gtx. | 08:29 |
| dioioib | I just had a crash trying to install 16.04 beta 2. Wouldn't figure a crash before I even started using 16.04 beta. | 08:39 |
| tracker9 | hello. Could u tell me which server of x11 is present in 16.04? | 09:15 |
| sgbirch | Where is the best place to get a docker container with ubuntu 16.04 installed? ubuntu:16.04 has no networking installed | 09:19 |
| server_ | X.Org X Server 1.17.3 | 09:24 |
| server_ | Release Date: 2015-10-26 | 09:24 |
| server_ | X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 | 09:24 |
| server_ | sgbirch, what do you mean no networking installed? | 09:25 |
| sgbirch | root@fbc5ea8d571f:/usr/bin# ifconfig | 09:26 |
| sgbirch | bash: ifconfig: command not found | 09:26 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: "ip addr show" | 09:26 |
| sgbirch | root@02b58caaaff9:/# ip addr show | 09:27 |
| sgbirch | bash: ip: command not found | 09:27 |
| sgbirch | I created the container like this: docker run -ti ubuntu:16.04 /bin/bash | 09:27 |
| tracker9 | server_, that's kinda old | 09:29 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: is the PATH set as you'd expect; are the packages installed (net-tools, iproute2) ? | 09:29 |
| sgbirch | The path looks good, net-tools and iproute2 are both installed | 09:31 |
| sgbirch | oh .. hang on, I was on trusty and not in a container .. one set | 09:31 |
| sgbirch | correction! the PATH is correct, net-tools and iproute2 are not installed | 09:32 |
| bittin- | Ubuntu and Debian isos updated at work :) | 09:43 |
| bittin- | now waiting for the 16.04 isos :) | 09:46 |
| server_ | tracker9, really? This is from an beta 2 iso I installed a week ago. | 09:49 |
| server_ | I fixed the vlc... the issue was needing to switch to nvidia chips using prime-select nvidia. | 09:50 |
| tracker9 | server_, how could i check version bundled in daily ISO? | 09:54 |
| server_ | From a terminal, I typed: startx --version | 09:55 |
| server_ | it gave the versions at the start. I don't know how to check the daily ISO builds for what is included. | 09:55 |
| server_ | (never new there were daily isos) | 09:55 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: it looks like the -core builds stopped at end of March, and also, that the 16.04 builds do not contain a lot of packages that the 14.04, etc., images do contain (been looking at the manifests on partner-images.canonical.com) | 09:59 |
| tracker6 | server_, next time warn that startx even with -version will launch another xsession pls | 10:11 |
| tracker6 | its 1.18.1 in daily iso | 10:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 10:20 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.17.18 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB | 10:20 |
| lotuspsychje | new kernel out | 10:20 |
| server_ | tracker6, sorry about that. Didn't think it was important since it doesn't kill the active X server. :( I will warn next time. | 10:22 |
| server_ | !info linux-image-generic | 10:22 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.17.18 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB | 10:22 |
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| sgbirch | TJ-: Is there anything that can be done about it? | 10:38 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I've just reported bug 1567349 | 10:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1567349 in cloud-images "partner-images (for Docker, etc) seem to be missing key network packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1567349 | 10:38 |
| sgbirch | thank you .. is there anything I can do to help? | 10:39 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I suspect it is intended from what I found | 10:40 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: why would they want to do that? | 10:41 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I don't know, but you'll see the images on partner-images.canonical.com (where the Docker images are) are different to those (that include the network packages) on cloud-images.ubuntu.com, so I'd recommend you manually fetch the 16.04 image from there | 10:44 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I wonder if the objective is to encourage the use of LXD instead of docker | 10:49 |
| server_ | GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed | 10:50 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I know they are different animals, but many people (myself included) will be making that decision. I can use either for my current project. | 10:50 |
| server_ | I get the above message, after I installed linux-image-4.4.0-16-generic. | 10:50 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I wondered about the images having 'core' in their titles. Possibly its the absolute minimum image without an assumption of networking being required. | 10:51 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: hmmm .. that would make more sense than my conspiracy theory :-) | 10:54 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: but it does seem a bit counter when they're talked about as 'cloud' images | 10:57 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: rather like sending the eunuchs into the harem and expecting the pitter-patter of tiny feet in 9 months time :) | 10:58 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: lmao - perfect analogy | 10:58 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: yeah, a cloud image with no networking is pretty strange | 10:59 |
| TJ- | Are the images pre-configured to do IPv6 RA and SLAAC? I recall some talk of LX{C,D} images going IPv6 only; this may be related | 11:02 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: if you're expecting IPv4 that may well explain it | 11:02 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: how can I check? | 11:03 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: ahh .. apt-get update works .. I had just *assumed* it had no networking | 11:05 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I think you nailed it, ipv6 only installed in the container | 11:05 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1525420 | 11:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1525420 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "[xenial] daily server image - no network after install" [Undecided,Expired] | 11:06 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I don't think that bug report applies at all; that's for the ISO server install images, for bare hardware | 11:08 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: Oh yes, sorry | 11:08 |
| TJ- | I recall the discussion about the LXD/IPv6 only stuff in one of the ubuntu developer channels some time ago, I'll see if I can find it in my logs | 11:09 |
| TJ- | here we go. this was in the context of LXD discussions about DHCP, dnsmasq, and lxc vs lxd | 11:12 |
| TJ- | 2016-03-21 20:52:03 infinity stgraber: How do guests get IPv4 connectivity? | 11:12 |
| TJ- | 2016-03-21 20:52:20 stgraber infinity: the guest won't have any connectivity by default except http through a minimal proxy | 11:12 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I'm guessing those -core images implement that... although that doesn't explain why the -core images going back to 15.04 also don't have those network packages, unless this was a build-service change that affects all release images built since | 11:13 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: yes | 11:13 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: it still seems like a pretty bad thing to do :-( What is the answer to the question about getting IPv4 connectivity? | 11:14 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I am sure I am not the last person who will stare blankly in dispair at what appears to be a completely broken container! | 11:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:15 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: I'm not clear on that; these images aren't strictly Ubuntu - these are hosted on Canonical's site so it's different | 11:15 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: but you can see the Vivid/15.04 manifest also shows it missing those packages. Today's Trusty and Utopic builds do have the packages. https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/vivid/current/ubuntu-vivid-core-cloudimg-amd64.manifest | 11:16 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: and those 15.04 package build dates are January, so it's not something recent | 11:17 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: given that it has been this way for a while it is strange that google didn’t find any discussion on it. I must not have found the right search terms | 11:18 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: you're not alone; my search-fu is usually HOT but I've not found anything. On a side-note I did find this, which might explain *how* the images are created http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/datasources.html#no-cloud | 11:20 |
| sjoshi | Hello, I am not able to install unity8 on ubuntu16.04 beta2 | 11:24 |
| sjoshi | its day Unable to locate package | 11:24 |
| lotuspsychje | !unity8 | sjoshi | 11:24 |
| ubottu | sjoshi: Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 11:24 |
| sjoshi | say* | 11:24 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: thanks! But as soon as I run this command "sudo apt install unity8-desktop-session-mir" | 11:25 |
| sjoshi | its say Unable to locate package | 11:25 |
| sjoshi | I am installing it into a pendrive to see the compatability of my hardware | 11:25 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: apt-cache shows me unity8-desktop-session-mir - Unity8 desktop session for Mir | 11:26 |
| lotuspsychje | correctly | 11:26 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: Let me try again | 11:27 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: you mean your on the live mode right now? | 11:27 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: No I am not | 11:28 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: explain the pendrive part? | 11:28 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: I have downloaded Ubuntu16.04 and created a live USB of it | 11:29 |
| sjoshi | Now I am trying to install unity8 desktop on it | 11:30 |
| sjoshi | Right now, I am on Xubuntu15.10 | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | !info unity8-desktop-session-mir wily | 11:33 |
| ubottu | unity8-desktop-session-mir (source: unity8-desktop-session): Unity8 desktop session for Mir. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12+15.10.20150609-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 4 kB, installed size 54 kB | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: uname -a plz? | 11:34 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: I dont wanna experiment with my office laptop installation :) | 11:34 |
| sjoshi | Linux shupkarn 4.2.0-35-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 11:34 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: but im not sure you can install unity8 on live, as you need logout/login to enter unity8 | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: physical install is recommended | 11:35 |
| sjoshi | ahh.. ok | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: try unity8 on your 15.10? dont like= purge? | 11:35 |
| sjoshi | I can give it a shot on my home laptop.. it has Xubuntu15.10 but right its having h/w issue | 11:36 |
| sjoshi | now its* | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | oh wait, its xubuntu not sure how unity8 will react on that | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | didnt test myself yet | 11:37 |
| sjoshi | yeah, thats also a point to be noted :P | 11:37 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: also I have made persistence live usb, still it will not work? | 11:37 |
| sjoshi | there is a logout option in Live USB i guess | 11:38 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: didnt test either, try it perhaps | 11:38 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: sure :) | 11:38 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: just keep in mind, usb can bottleneck your Os | 11:39 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: agree! I am js going to check hardware compatability.. with new Ubuntu + Unity(mainly display, sound and network) | 11:39 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: i tested unity8 on my 16.04 desktop, and running like a charm | 11:40 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: with basic features, more to come @ final | 11:40 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: sounds good! | 11:40 |
| sjoshi | yah! | 11:41 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: which brand of laptop you have? | 11:42 |
| sjoshi | for me: office: Lenovo and home:Dell | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: acer aspire netbook | 11:42 |
| sjoshi | hmm ok | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-601374206 | 11:43 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: how was the graphic performance of Unity8? light on CPU or ..? | 11:44 |
| sjoshi | lotuspsychje: nice wallpaper..! :) | 11:44 |
| sjoshi | looks cool | 11:45 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx :p | 11:45 |
| lotuspsychje | sjoshi: same feeling as unity7 for me | 11:45 |
| sjoshi | ok | 11:45 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 11:47 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I made some progress .. thank you for your help. It seems that apt-get install net-tools solves the problem | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | sgbirch, odd that wasn't installed by default... | 12:12 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: so, that infers there was network connectivity already! | 12:19 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: yes .. it was just no tools installed, that fooled me | 12:20 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: so presumably the images are configured to auto-configure, so to speak. For IPv4 that'd mean DHCP enabled, via either ifupdown or NetworkManager, or if IPv6 then RA and SLAAC should be sufficient | 12:20 |
| TJ- | sgbirch: did you check /etc/network/interfaces to see if it was pre-configured? | 12:20 |
| sgbirch | TJ-: I just checked. /etc/network is not present but there is a file called /etc/networks which contains one line: | 12:40 |
| sgbirch | # symbolic names for networks, see networks(5) for more information | 12:40 |
| sgbirch | link-local 169.254.0.0 | 12:40 |
| sgbirch | I lied .. two lines | 12:40 |
| jonathan_zz | I currently have "timidity" slowing down my system considerable. I have no idea what started it: "timidity 27699 83.8 0.1 127488 4504 ? RL apr04 3797:23 /usr/bin/timidity -Os -iAD" ---> taking about 100% (of one core, supposedly). The other core is 40% idle. How do I discover what process started it? | 13:21 |
| jonathan_zz | apparently it just gets started at boot | 13:31 |
| asper | hi there. it seems that the php5-common package is no longer in the xenial sources. was is renamed or is it simply gone? | 13:44 |
| lotuspsychje | asper: could it be php7 now on xenial? | 13:45 |
| lotuspsychje | !info php7-common | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Package php7-common does not exist in xenial | 13:45 |
| lotuspsychje | !info php7 | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Package php7 does not exist in xenial | 13:45 |
| lotuspsychje | !find php7 | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Found: libapache2-mod-php7.0, php7.0, php7.0-cgi, php7.0-cli, php7.0-common, php7.0-curl, php7.0-dev, php7.0-gd, php7.0-gmp, php7.0-json (and 28 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php7&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all | 13:45 |
| pcn | That probably makes the world a better place | 13:46 |
| asper | ahh thanks! | 13:46 |
| lotuspsychje | php7.0-common - documentation, examples and common module for PHP | 13:47 |
| lotuspsychje | asper: cant find a php5 on xenial neither on apt-cache | 13:47 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: asper: php5 is gone in Xenial, replaced with php7.0 | 13:47 |
| lotuspsychje | teward: ok thank you | 13:47 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: asper: you'll need to use ppa:ondrej/php and install php5.6 or w/e it is from there | 13:48 |
| teward | and then remove php7.0 from the repositories on Xenial | 13:48 |
| teward | (that's Ondrej's coinstallable PHP versions PPA) | 13:48 |
| lotuspsychje | teward: but not recommended i suppose? | 13:48 |
| teward | !ppa | 13:49 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 13:49 |
| teward | obligatory notice is obligatory | 13:49 |
| asper | thanks. we will upgrade to 7.0 | 13:49 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: There are things which don't support php7.0 - only way to get php5.6 will be to use the PPA< but you lose all other support | 13:49 |
| teward | (for the package) | 13:49 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: so no, not supported, not really recommended, I think 5.6 is EOLing anyways, but don't quote me on that | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | teward: yeah downgrading packages, doesnt sound like wise decision | 13:50 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: it's not a downgrade | 13:50 |
| teward | it's a separate package? | 13:50 |
| teward | they're *coinstallable* | 13:51 |
| teward | they run separately | 13:51 |
| teward | still a much better idea to modernize your site code to php7.0 which is reportedly much faster | 13:51 |
| lotuspsychje | right, but lets say a security hole reaches into 5.6, the user wont get official upsate/support | 13:51 |
| lotuspsychje | update | 13:51 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: right, that's why I still don't recommend the PPA, though AFAIK, Ondrej keeps that PPA updated... | 13:51 |
| teward | but yes, not officially supported | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 13:52 |
| teward | lotuspsychje: FYI, the !ppa factoid I just posted? Still applies. | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 13:52 |
| teward | (you can answer your own question you just asked there by reading the factoid) | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: you can already help test beta2 or daily | 14:49 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: but for daily use its recommended to wait until final | 14:50 |
| teward | ^ | 14:50 |
| upp | how can i help? | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: finding bugs, testing packages,etc | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: the sky is the limit and helps the community | 14:50 |
| upp | i have to read first what daily is ( mean) | 14:51 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: the daily images are in topic | 14:51 |
| upp | lotuspsychje: the daily build change every day? | 14:54 |
| teward | upp: the daily build is a respin of the ISO daily | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: if you install daily, you will receive the updates also, and be able to upgrade to final | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychje | !final | upp | 14:54 |
| ubottu | upp: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: if you accept the fact your system 'could' break till final in this stage | 14:55 |
| upp | ohh cool | 14:55 |
| upp | i understand now | 14:55 |
| upp | now it's only my personal computer now, so not so important | 14:56 |
| upp | but nice to know such thing exist | 14:56 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: ok great! | 14:56 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: i got it installed both on desktop + netbook working like a rocket | 14:56 |
| lotuspsychje | nothing broken yet | 14:56 |
| upp | ^^cool | 14:57 |
| teward | install once, and then `apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade` daily and you'll be fine | 14:57 |
| teward | or, reinstall the ISO daily for daily testing | 14:57 |
| upp | tewar: or, reinstall the ISO daily for daily testing -> that's only if i want to test something in daily? | 15:00 |
| lotuspsychje | teward: ^ | 15:01 |
| upp | if i install daily today, and tomorrow i run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade i get the new daily? | 15:04 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: daily means the most up to date packages inserted | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: so if you install a daily, you will receive latest updates via apt-get also | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: the daily just follows the progress | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: if your system breaks somehow, and you reinstall daily iso, your back in business | 15:08 |
| upp | thanks for answer, i thought it a daily new image because the one i download now is released today :-) | 15:08 |
| upp | now i understand very well | 15:08 |
| upp | thank you so much | 15:08 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: good luck and welcome to the ubuntu (xenial) experience | 15:08 |
| upp | i will try to find time to start developing for ubuntu ;-) | 15:09 |
| upp | it will be a pleasure for me | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | !contribute | upp thank you | 15:10 |
| ubottu | upp thank you: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | upp: the #ubuntu-touch guys can always need a help aswell | 15:10 |
| upp | i will try my best, but first i have to understand more | 15:11 |
| teward | lotuspsychje_: I was pinged? | 15:16 |
| teward | oh | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje_ | upp: wanted to know more on daily | 15:16 |
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| devslash | is Ubuntu 16.04 locked from any new changes between now and when it will be released later this month ? | 17:56 |
| dax | The 16.04 release schedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule . Most stuff is frozen for release by now, but there's still polishing and bugfixing going on. | 17:58 |
| devslash | is anyone here ? | 17:58 |
| dax | So, it's not stable/unchanging, but it is getting there. | 17:58 |
| devslash | ok thanks | 17:58 |
| dax | If you're asking because you want to upgrade important stuff, the answer would still be "no that's a terrible idea" | 17:59 |
| dax | we've had stuff come up *very* late in the cycle that needed fixing before, the next couple of weeks are not just a formality | 17:59 |
| dax | (personally, the Ubuntu servers I have at work are on 14.04 and won't be going to 16.04 until 16.04.1, assuming we decide to upgrade them) | 18:00 |
| dax | (for desktop users on 14.04, I'd probably wait until a week after release, or 16.04.1, depending on risk aversion) | 18:01 |
| ratrace | Hello. Trying out 16.04. Previously (in 15.10 eg.) I could alt-tab between different program windows and alt-` between windows of the same program. This latter behavior is absent in 16.04. Is this a bug? | 18:20 |
| nacc | ratrace: i think it got fixed this AM | 18:25 |
| nacc | ratrace: trying to find you a bug # | 18:25 |
| ratrace | nacc: it's okay if it's a bug. I Was afraid it's a "feature" of the so called "evolving" and "progressing" GNOME... :) | 18:26 |
| nacc | ratrace: no, i believe it was an xorg issue, actually, fixed now | 18:26 |
| ratrace | great, thanks for confirming and checking! | 18:26 |
| nacc | ratrace: yeah, that's based purely on my IRC logs mind you :) | 18:27 |
| ratrace | :) | 18:27 |
| strahl | Hi, will Ubuntu 16.04 include a working version of mir? (able to support 3d games) | 20:18 |
| k1l_ | !unity8 | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 20:18 |
| k1l_ | strahl: neither wayland nor mir are productionready for desktops. they just gained first support by nvidia, for example. | 20:19 |
| k1l_ | nvidia just released a driver with _first_ support for walynad and mir. | 20:19 |
| strahl | k1l_ if my graphics card is Nvidia, should it work? | 20:19 |
| k1l_ | you need to get that driver from the nvidia website. and i think there is only the lxc version of unity8 and mir available now. | 20:20 |
| strahl | k1l_ ok. And nouveau? | 20:21 |
| strahl | k1l_ should it work just like in X windows? | 20:21 |
| k1l_ | no | 20:21 |
| k1l_ | its still in development, as said above. | 20:22 |
| strahl | k1l_ ok, thank you for the information! | 20:22 |
| k1l_ | you could ask in #ubuntu-mir for the exact state. but i doubt they will say "its just like x works now" | 20:23 |
| strahl | k1l_ ok, thank you! :) | 20:23 |
| devslash | how do I move the unity taskbar in 16.04 ? | 20:26 |
| k1l_ | gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom | 20:30 |
| k1l_ | devslash: ^ | 20:31 |
| devslash | I thought that it was built into the GUI in 16.04 but you could do that command in older versions of ubuntu | 20:31 |
| k1l_ | no | 20:34 |
| k1l_ | the patch to enable it was just included into the unity version that is shipped with 16.04. you cant do that on older ubuntus without using a pathced version or patch it manually | 20:35 |
| devslash | can you change Bottom to any direction like Top or Right ? | 20:42 |
| k1l | try it | 20:43 |
| k1l | i only know of Bottom and Left | 20:43 |
| devslash | so it doesnt go into effect until you restart X.... | 20:44 |
| devslash | nope | 20:45 |
| devslash | it only allows for Top and Left | 20:45 |
| k1l | not Top, Bottom | 20:47 |
| devslash | err sorry | 20:47 |
| devslash | bottom and left | 20:47 |
| devslash | not top or right | 20:47 |
| devslash | so what do you need to do to install this patch in 15.10 | 20:48 |
| devslash | I like the launcher at the bottom a little better | 20:48 |
| k1l | build unity yourself with that patch included | 20:48 |
| devslash | ahh... sounds a little compalicated | 20:49 |
| devslash | sudo killall Xorg | 20:49 |
| devslash | I heard about a programmer who tried to end it all by rm -rf self... | 20:51 |
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