[10:10] <faenil> to anyone using QTest to simulate mouse events, I reported -> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-52432
[10:24] <kalikiana> +1
[10:37] <dpm> faenil, are you attending the Qt Days IT?
[10:38] <faenil> dpm: yep, I'll be giving a talk :)
[10:39] <dpm> awesome, send us some pics! :)
[10:40] <faenil> dpm: will do! :)
[10:40] <faenil> dpm: wish me luck, hehe
[10:40] <dpm> faenil, I'm sure you'll do awesomely :)
[10:41] <dpm> faenil, are you in touch with someone from marketing about this? I'm thinking they can give you some Ubuntu swag to give out at the event
[10:42] <faenil> dpm: good idea! No I'm not in touch with anyone, I'm not familiar with the process :)
[10:43] <dpm> faenil, I'll get you in touch with the right people :)
[10:43] <faenil> dpm: awesome, cheers
[12:01] <aquarius> JamesTait, ping about review ordering in the app store :)
[12:05] <JamesTait> Are you looking to cause trouble again, aquarius? 😝
[12:06] <aquarius> :)
[12:06] <aquarius> JamesTait, we've talked before about how to calculate average ratings, right? Specifically, that the store is bobbins at it? :) I tried to find a bug from the last time we had this discussion and couldn't
[12:08] <JamesTait> aquarius, we have had this discussion, yes. ☺   ISTR mpt was involved in that discussion, and had done quite a lot of work on documenting the process, and possibly even created a bug report.
[12:08] <JamesTait> But it'll almost certainly be against rnr-server, not click-package-index.
[12:09] <JamesTait> Let me have a quick sniff and see if I can find it.
[12:12] <JamesTait> aquarius, there's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rnr-server/+bug/1323653 But I'm not sure if that's what you're getting at.
[12:12] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1323653 in Ratings and Reviews server "API for click reviews does not order correctly" [High,Confirmed]
[12:17] <mpt> JamesTait, aquarius: The formula we came up with was “3 plus the sum, for each possible number of stars (1, 2, 3, 4, and 5), of (that number of stars – 3) multiplied by the lower bound of the Wilson score confidence interval with a 90% confidence level for the proportion of ratings that had that number of stars”. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#top-rated>
[12:18] <aquarius> right
[12:18] <aquarius> that's what evanmiller recommends
[12:18] <aquarius> but... it doesn't seem to have been implemented, or it has and it's not working
[12:18] <aquarius> because an app with 1 5* rating shows up at the top of the store...
[12:20] <mpt> aquarius, it is implemented in Ubuntu Software Center. I don’t know why the Ubuntu Touch store hasn’t implemented it.
[12:21] <JamesTait> I suspect you might be talking about something other than the calculation of the ratings_average, but AFAIK that hasn't been implemented in rnr-server yet either.
[12:22] <JamesTait> (Which lives here https://launchpad.net/rnr-server and is AGPLv3, btw)
[12:22] <aquarius> JamesTait, when the store on the phone shows apps, it shows one single rating for that app. It also orders the apps it returns by some criteria. I have assumed that (a) the single rating shown is the calculated average, and that (b) the list is ordered by that average
[12:22] <aquarius> JamesTait, ya, I proposed a branch for rnr-server for something else a while back :)
[12:23] <aquarius> JamesTait, I think that, if both of those things are true, that the average is being calculated wrongly, and it should be being calculated the way that Ubuntu Software Centre does it
[12:23] <JamesTait> aquarius, right - so that's slightly different from what you originally said, which was "review ordering in the app store", which I took to mean ordering of the reviews. 😉
[12:23] <aquarius> gah
[12:23] <aquarius> pretend that I never said the word "review", which is clearly my traitorous brain trying to be confusing. Sorry :)
[12:24] <JamesTait> But now I know what you're referring to, the rnr-server work is the first part to fix the ratings_average (which is the one score you see in the store).
[12:25] <JamesTait> And then b) needs to be done in click-package-index, but also needs to take into consideration things like making sure the most relevant result for the user's search terms appears at or at least near the top of the results.
[12:33] <aquarius> JamesTait, ok, so the first step here is to fix rnr-server to calculate the average properly, yes? Is there a bug for that? If not, I'll file one (and link to mpt's spec describing it)
[12:36] <JamesTait> aquarius, I don't believe there is a bug for it, no.
[12:39] <aquarius> simple bug filed
[12:47] <JamesTait> Thank you. ☺
[13:52] <mike00> I want to do in my app like in the music one: when you are playing a song in the "now playing" section, in the top there are two 'buttons', "full view" and "queue". is there a method to implement a think like that?
[13:52] <mike00> I hope you understand... :)
[14:12] <Randy_O> hello, I've been trying to get an ubuntu-emulator tunning for SDK work, but the SDK is stuck saying the device is still booting, while theemulator itself is up and running fine. Refresh button does nothing. Can't connect to it due to no SSH keys setup yet. Any ideas?
[14:14] <mike00> sorry, I can't help you.... I don't use emulators: I run directly on the phone
[14:14] <Randy_O> mike00, I use phone too, so I'm not really stuck, I'd just like to work with the emulator as well
[14:23] <mike00> is possible to create a propertyAnimation which changes a parameter 2 times? I want to duplicated the width of an element and, after that, halve it.
[14:23] <dobey> Randy_O: did you enable developer mode in the emulator?
[14:26] <Randy_O> dobey, I'd like to, but the SDK interface to do all that is stuck saying the device is booting, so all the buttons (Enable port forward, setup public keys etc) are all disabled
[14:27] <Randy_O> dobey, is there a command line way to do that?
[14:28] <dobey> Randy_O: you said the emulator was running. you need to go to system-settings inside the emulator, and then about, and enable developer mode through there, i think; the same way as on a real phone
[14:28] <Randy_O> dobey, I'll check, that may be a step I was missing
[14:29] <Randy_O> dobey, that did it, thanks a million, haha, so many hours wasted.
[14:29] <dobey> np :)
[14:41] <mike00> or  how can I set a delay to a PropertyAnimation?
[14:50] <mike00> ???
[15:28] <aquarius> mike00, check out SequentialAnimation, which lets you do two or more animations one after the other
[15:29] <mike00> ok, I'll see. that is what I'm looking for
[21:21] <yerac> hi all, where and who can I ask about phone-app?