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robruo/14:56
sil2100\o (waving a bit early!)14:56
caribou~o~14:59
pitticaribou: ooh, a new waving style!15:00
pitti,o/^15:00
cyphermox>.<15:01
pitticyphermox: that looks more like a splatter movie than waving ☺15:01
slangasekis it a cloudier style?15:02
barryis it a sign that it's raining really hard here today? :)15:02
slangasekso then!15:03
slangasek#startmeeting15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Apr  7 15:03:03 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:03
infinitySorry, was distracted.15:03
cyphermox15:03
pitti🌥 here !15:03
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:03
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:03
slangasekchiluk robru cyphermox slangasek pitti tdaitx bdmurray xnox barry sil2100 infinity caribou doko15:03
xnoxhello =)15:03
slangasekchiluk: hi! anything for us this morning?15:04
chiluksorry none slangasek...15:04
slangasekchiluk: √15:04
slangasekrobru:15:04
robrulp:cupstream2distro15:04
robru* made all vivid landings point at overlay15:04
robru* new GLES class for handling qtmir, qtubuntu, and ubuntu-ui-toolkit. Packaging is now inlined in trunks to hopefully reduce drift between branches.15:04
robrulp:bileto15:04
robru* hid dest ppa field because it's not used at the moment15:04
robru* reviewed britney fix from colin15:04
robrulp:location-service15:04
robru* Updated to new bileto_pre_release_hook15:04
robru(done)15:04
slangasekcyphermox: can you hold the umbrella with one hand and type with the other? :)15:06
cyphermoxslangasek: s/umbrella/shovel/  yes15:06
cyphermoxMIR:15:06
cyphermox- review barbican (bug LP: #1543754)15:06
cyphermox- review python-pykmip (bug LP: #1543754)15:06
cyphermoxxenial:15:06
cyphermox- VT switching in the only-ubiquity case (bug LP: #1567194)15:06
slangasekyou're shoveling the clouds?  I think I see a problem with your strategy15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1543754 in python-pykmip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] barbican, python-pykmip" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154375415:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1567194 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to switch to console/ttys from ubiquity" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156719415:06
cyphermox - debugging ltrace on ppc64el (bug LP: #1547152)15:07
cyphermox  - backporting a number of ppc patches from upstream15:07
cyphermox- debugging swedish keyboard in ubiquity (bug LP: #1549529)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1547152 in ltrace (Ubuntu) "ltrace is throwing segfault while running any of the userspace command" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154715215:07
cyphermox- tpm2-tss unit for resourcemgr15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1549529 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "The keyboard is still installed as US-English even if another language is selected during the installation" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154952915:07
cyphermox- udisks2 partition creation fix (bug LP: #1460602)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1460602 in udisks2 (Debian) "Erasing disk failed: Error wiping newly created partition" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146060215:07
cyphermox±other stuff:15:07
cyphermox- helped roaksoax with maas-region-controller debconf magic15:07
cyphermox- more NM landing discussion with Tony15:07
cyphermox- reviewing ibmpmlinux (bug LP: #1448092)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1448092 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ibmpmlinux" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144809215:07
cyphermox- ubuntu-cpc cdimage support15:07
cyphermox(done ✅)15:07
cyphermoxslangasek: umbrelling clouds wouldn't work any better anyway, btw.15:08
slangasek * administrivia for team transition15:08
slangasek  * sprint planning15:08
slangasek * completed the php5->7 transition, php5 is removed from xenial as of yesterday15:08
slangasek * nudging various other proposed-migration blockages (autopkgtest retries, etc)15:08
slangasek * freeze review (new+unapproved) for juju2; asked for a reupload of juju-core-1 with some packaging changes prior to NEW accept15:08
slangasek * assessing remaining 16.04 blockers15:08
slangasek(done)15:08
pittiautopkgtest:15:08
pitti - Fix hanging xenial image builds15:08
pitti - Fix nested QEMU on AMD CPUs (debugged on smoser's machine)15:08
pitti - britney: Don't show tested package version (which is often wrong) on excuse lines with only "in progress" tests15:08
pittisystemd:15:08
pitti - Add autopkgtest for udev, running the upstream tests15:09
pitti - Avoid polkit warnings from maintainer scripts (#1565617)15:09
pitti - Fix wrong uint32 dbus handling on big-endian15:09
pitti - Check status of resource limits with unified cgroup hierarchy (PR#2964)15:09
pitti - merge with Debian to pick up some fixes15:09
pitti - udev: Fix SIGKILL spee when running under upstart (#1555237)15:09
pitti - udev: Fix crash with large number of tags (#1564976) and add test15:09
pitti - Investigate wrong device naming with ibmveth (#1561096), ongoing15:09
pittidistro:15:09
pitti - cron: Fix t→ x upgrade (#1566333)15:09
pitti - apport: Backport more precise python traceback handling to trusty (#989819), fix invalid key name generation in hookutils (#1566975)15:09
pitti - fontconfig: discuss update to new version with seb128 and GunnarHj, sponsor new upload (#1556457)15:09
pitti - fix FTBFS: python-cliff, python-glance-store, swedish, ispell, dict-{nr,ns,st,tn,ts,xh}15:09
pitti - Investigate hanging adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud due to lxd (#1566253)15:09
pitti other:15:09
pitti - Review proposed openssl FIPS change, and review the > 500 kB patch, argh (#1553309)15:09
pitti - Help Diogo with getting access to Scalingstack instance for debugging open-iscsi tests15:09
pitti - Meeting with Jamie about snappy device assignment15:09
pitti - Review/discuss default naming policy for USB network devices15:09
pitti - Travel prep for cloud sprint in Austin15:09
pitti - Discuss improving the lxd debconfery with stgraber15:09
pittiEOT15:09
pittislangasek: oh, php5 is gone? yay! congrats (to nacc too)15:09
xnoxbug #156109615:09
tdaitx* JCK 815:09
tdaitx   - Ran all interactive tests; everything now passes but JDialog tests: the JDialogs are blank yellow instead of the usual gray, no components in it show up as expected (buttons, menu); the workaround is to move the JDialog around a lot and put other windows on top of it, no fix found as of now15:09
tdaitx   - Last fixes: getting a few additional packages in (cups, nautilus, leafpad), getting pulseaudio to tunnel sound through SSH and to play beeps (by loading the right sample and setting its x11 bell module)15:09
tdaitx   - Down to about 6 failures in total; 1 previous SSL errors that I was debugging was "fixed" by a new exclusion list (ie. test is now ignored); the other failures seem to be an error on the JCK itself (missing service files and pre-compiled classes from the jck)15:09
tdaitx* JCK 715:09
ubottubug 1561096 in systemd (Ubuntu Xenial) "STC850:Brazos:Br16:Br16p05: Network ethernet port name changed under Ubuntu 16.04 with added adapters (ibmveth)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156109615:09
tdaitx   - Preparing to run all interactive tests15:09
tdaitx(done)15:09
bdmurrayreview of BucketMetadata changes15:10
bdmurraydiscussion with seelaman re: decomissioning ps3 ET15:10
bdmurrayused import_bugs to import apport duplicates db info into real cassandra15:10
bdmurrayimporting subscribed packages to real cassandra15:10
bdmurraydocumented DSE (real) cassandra migration steps15:10
slangasekpitti: yeah, we were down to < 10 revdeps and half of them were in the mysql-5.7 transition (also landed last night), so I pulled it15:10
bdmurrayirc discussion with stub regarding database migration15:10
bdmurrayran rebuild_bucket_versions_count so its current15:10
bdmurrayresolved issues with ubuntu-release-upgrader (demotions.py and test failures)15:10
bdmurrayresolved update-manager FTBFS15:10
bdmurrayopened some MIR bug reports15:10
bdmurray✔ done15:10
xnoxinstaller fixes and s390-tools update: s390-dasd 390-zfcp dbconfig-common 390-tools zipl-installer choose-mirror debian-installer hw-detect15:10
xnoxworking on validated component fetching in live-installer https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-installer/+bug/156588915:10
xnoxnetcfg vlan patch is almost complete reviews at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=433568#163 would be appreciated15:10
xnoxtodo: gpg-agent fixes, boost-dev fix15:10
ubottuError: malone bug 1565889 not found15:10
xnoxcrashing bluefin kernel live-patching sprint, at the same time got confirmation as to why s390x kernel is big, and what needs doing to enable zfcpdump kernel15:10
ubottuDebian bug 433568 in netcfg "add vlan support" [Wishlist,Open]15:10
xnoxdone15:10
barryshort week due to vacation15:10
barryvarious sprint travel planning15:10
barrypython-debian 0.1.27ubuntu2 (FTBFS), claws-mail 3.13.2-1ubuntu1 (debian merge)15:11
barryLP: #1518955 (system-image client rotate, train & test)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1518955 in system-image (Ubuntu) "System image client log file grows indefinitely" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151895515:11
barrytest gitification of si server repo15:11
barryLP: #1566878; LP: #1566975; gdebi FTBFS (patches to mvo; will sync asap)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1566878 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Alt-backtick regression" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156687815:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1566975 in apport (Ubuntu) "AssertionError on .proc.driver.nvidia.gpus.0000:01:00.0" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156697515:11
barry--done--15:11
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:11
sil2100- RTM status meetings15:11
sil2100- Identifying and fixing issue with certain translations missing in ubuntu-touch15:11
sil2100- Manually hacking around on snakefruit to spit out updated translations15:11
sil2100- OTA-10:15:11
sil2100  * Snapshotting the images15:11
sil2100  * Preparing the release notes, generating the commitlogs15:11
caribouxnox: can you keep me in the loop for zfcpdump bits, I'm also working on it15:11
sil2100  * Pushing on the mako OTA-10 blocker, preparing for mako-only re-spin15:11
sil2100  * Promoting krillin, vegetahd and arale images15:11
sil2100- Lots of manual system-image work for various teams (turbo, frieza)15:11
sil2100- Familiarizing with the DMB duties15:11
sil2100- Working and testing an ubuntu-touch-session tweak for customized audio playback15:11
sil2100- Writing few more tests for system-image server testability branch15:11
sil2100- Discussions about the future: OTA-11, switch to xenial and landing scheme with Y open15:11
xnoxcaribou, ack.15:11
sil2100- Some thoughts on making our release process more flexible15:11
sil2100- Added options to do rootfs-rootfs based deltas in generate-commitlog15:11
sil2100(done)15:12
infinity - working on updates to all the IBM utilities15:12
infinity - investigating glibc bugs filed since 2.2315:12
infinity - finished getting powerpc cloud images ready for scalingstack15:12
infinity - reviewing ubuntu-cdimage merge proposals15:12
infinity - lots and lots of queue reviews15:12
infinity - random bugfixes15:12
infinity - archive gardening for priority/arch mismatches15:12
infinity - some kernel SRU manglement15:12
infinity - patch piloting15:12
infinity(done)15:12
caribou Bugfix :15:12
caribou - iSCSI boot installation15:12
caribou   work as expected15:12
caribou - Apache 2.4.18(xenial) backport (LP: #1335068)15:12
caribou   pre-depend on dpkg makes it difficult, might revert to 2.4.915:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1335068 in trusty-backports "Please backport apache2 2.4.18-1ubuntu1 (main) from Xenial" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133506815:12
caribouDevelopment work:15:12
caribou - LP: #1546260 - kexec-tools purgatory failure on PowerPC6415:12
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1546260 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1546260). The error has been logged15:12
caribou   Uploaded15:12
caribou - Lp1528101 - vm.min_free_kbytes crash issues15:12
caribou   More discussions15:12
caribou - Various sponsoring : iproute2, corosync15:12
caribou Misc:15:12
caribou - Interviews15:12
caribou - Ubuntu Server Guide contributions15:12
caribou   iSCSI install15:12
caribou   Remote kdump functionality15:13
caribou☑ Done15:13
slangaseksil2100: and congrats on joining the DMB :)15:14
sil2100Thanks :)15:14
slangasekalright, and I believe this mail I haven't read yet in my inbox includes doko's apologies15:15
slangasek(it does)15:15
slangasekso that's everyone15:15
slangasekany questions?15:15
caribouI was wondering if it could be a good thing to mention the remote kernel dump functionality in Xenial's Release Notes15:15
* sil2100 will look into the failures ASAP as well15:15
caribouI just added the details in the Server Guide for Xenial15:16
infinitycaribou: It's a wiki, add things if you want under the right heading (perhaps new server features, ish)15:16
caribouinfinity: ok, will do15:16
infinitycaribou: If too many people add too much to the release notes, it's much easier for me to delete the useless points than it is to invent some.15:16
xnoxcaribou, yeap added to release notes. wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes or some such.15:17
xnox*add it to15:17
xnoxcyphermox, will you review https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=433568#163 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-installer/+bug/1565889 =)15:17
ubottuDebian bug 433568 in netcfg "add vlan support" [Wishlist,Open]15:17
ubottuError: malone bug 1565889 not found15:17
xnoxhope to land both into xenial....15:17
cyphermoxyep, added it to the list15:17
xnoxcyphermox, \o/ win15:17
cyphermoxI can't reach your live-installer bug though15:18
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:22
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slangasekanything else today?15:22
pittiwho's coming to the cloud sprint, OOI?15:22
pittio/15:22
infinityMoi.15:22
infinityNeed to book today.15:23
infinityI'll take any excuse to travel closer to a taco stand.15:23
slangasekdoko wants to remind us that the build failures in main that are reported by the rebuild test are real and should be fixed: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160401-xenial.html15:23
barryo/ but not til late tuesday15:23
sil2100I'll be looking at those tomorrow possibly to help out15:24
pittiif anyone can make sense of/reproduce the gnupg-doc one, please give me a shout15:24
pittineither can I reproduce this nor does the log actually say what's wrong15:24
* infinity shouts at pitti.15:24
slangasekcould it be related to the new gnupg2?15:24
pittiwell, this must be something specific to the (re)build environment15:25
pittiand I doubt that building docs is very sensitive to the buildds running on trusty kernel and my laptop on xenial's15:25
pitti(I haven't tried running under a trusty kernel, though)15:25
pittiinfinity: oh, any details?15:25
infinitypitti: No, I just wanted to shout at you.15:25
pittiinfinity: ok, point -- I didn't say "if and only if"15:26
slangasekok15:28
slangasekanything else?15:28
slangasek#endmeeting15:29
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr  7 15:29:20 2016 UTC.15:29
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-07-15.03.moin.txt15:29
slangasekthanks :)15:29
caribouthanks!15:29
pittithanks everyone15:29
barrythanks!15:30
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valoriehmmm, I thought I could at least look in on the meeting until we have to leave -- where is the UCC?17:23
sarnoldvalorie: is this the meeting you're looking for? http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-07-15.03.moin.txt17:25
valorieno, this is with ubuntu community council17:26
valoriesupposed to be now17:26
sarnoldaha :)17:27
mhall119o/ sorry everyone, it looks like we all forgot about today's meeting17:28
* mhall119 is still thinking it's wednesday17:28
mhall119#startmeeting Community Council Checkins17:28
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Apr  7 17:28:32 2016 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:28
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick17:28
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mhall119czajkowski marcoceppi hggdh sgclark meeting17:29
sgclarkpresent17:29
mhall119hi valorie, anyone else from Kubuntu here?17:29
marcoceppio/17:29
sgclarkwell technically I am on vacation , so I forgive myself for forgetting lol17:29
mhall119ahoneybun yofel are either of you around?17:30
mhall119sgclark: you're on IRC too much for vacation :)17:31
sgclarkyeah I know. I get the dirty looks from family17:31
mhall119so we don't have a specific topic for this meeting, it's mostly so that we can checkin and see (A) how things are running in Kubuntu and (B) if there is anything the CC can do to help or improve things17:32
mhall119#topic Kubuntu Council checkin17:32
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mhall119valorie: yofel ahoneybun have you had any new Kubuntu Members apply during the last development cycle?17:33
ovidiu-florinhello world17:34
mhall119hey ovidiu-florin17:34
mhall119#chair marcoceppi sgclark17:34
meetingologyCurrent chairs: marcoceppi mhall119 sgclark17:34
* sgclark puts on kubuntu hat . clivejo is our super awesome new member17:34
* sgclark puts on ucc hat17:35
mhall119I've seen him doing a lot, very cool17:35
mhall119how is the general interest and motivational levels within Kubuntu, are they starting to come back?17:36
* ogra_ wonders if these kubuntu hats are made out of plasma17:36
* sgclark giggles17:36
ogra_:)17:36
ovidiu-florininterest fluctuates as far as I can see17:37
* sgclark puts on kubuntu hat17:37
sgclarkI think we can go somewhere with the packaging parties, but alas we are few and only volunteers with limited time.17:37
sgclarkso it is difficult to keep up the momentum17:37
* sgclark puts on ucc hat17:38
mhall119between the Kubuntu podcast and Kubuntu parties, it seems there is more social and community activity happening17:38
ovidiu-florinand the support channel is very active17:38
mhall119is there anything the CC can do to help promote Kubuntu, either through governance or outreach?17:39
ovidiu-florinare there representatives here from other flavors?17:39
mhall119ovidiu-florin: not today, only Kubuntu was on the schedule17:40
ovidiu-florinok, thanks17:40
mhall119well, there might be, but not specifically for this17:40
sgclarkYeah think the packaging parties needs to be an *buntu overall activity17:40
ovidiu-florinmaybe some unification for the packages17:40
sgclarkwould be beneficial to everyone17:40
ovidiu-florindocumentation and work17:40
mhall119sgclark: how did the packaging party work? was it all online?17:41
ovidiu-florinthere was discussion at some point about moving the ubuntu wiki from moin moin to mediawiki. Did that happen?17:41
mhall119ovidiu-florin: specifically which packages?17:41
sgclarkwell it is still a WIP, we are experimenting17:41
mhall119ovidiu-florin: no, we implemented some stop-gap measures to keep moin running for the short term17:42
mhall119long-term plans for the wiki are still being discussed, and I think waiting for information from IS17:42
sgclarkmhall119: but yes it is all online. we tried hangouts but they were too limited. So now we are playing with Big blue button17:43
mhall119sgclark: we can coordinate a wider community participation, is there another one scheduled already?17:44
sgclarkand as far as package ovidiu-florin the only way we will survive without a massive jump in contributors is syncing most to debian.17:44
sgclarkmhall119: yeah I will have to get that date for you.17:44
ovidiu-florinperhaps sgclark can correct me if I'm wrong, but our pagaging documentation right now, and also the workflow/pipeline are kind of scattered, and it's particularly dificult for newcommers to get involved17:45
mhall119thanks sgclark17:45
sgclarkovidiu-florin: that will change when we move back to launchpad.17:45
mhall119ovidiu-florin: you mean http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ ?17:45
mhall119or does Kubuntu have separate packaging docs17:45
sgclarkmhall119: we are on debian git atm, there is nothing the wider community can do right now..17:46
mhall119ok17:46
ovidiu-florinthey can send patches via email....17:46
sgclarkthat will change though. and when that happens we can come back to this.17:46
ovidiu-florinand wait17:46
mhall119ok, can you also get the community team at canonical involved?17:47
mhall119we can all three take on different parts of this17:47
ovidiu-florinsgclark: I'm interested in how is the migration back to launchpad going. Can you tell me more about it? pelase :D17:47
mhall119is there anyone from the Membership Board here? If so, we can move the kubuntu discussions to another channel or email17:48
sgclarkovidiu-florin: I thought yofel was going to do it. Clearly a team meeting is in order, but he has been super busy with life and stuff. Again we are back to a handful of volunteers trying to do a full time team job.17:48
sgclarkyeah we are getting off track, sorry17:49
mhall119sgclark: no, just short on time because we started so late17:49
* ovidiu-florin is unsure now what the track is 17:49
mhall119if there's nobody from the membership board here for their meeting, we can use the rest of the time for kubuntu17:50
ovidiu-florinmhall119: are you the only one here from the UCC? or the others are very very silent?17:50
* sgclark is on the ucc17:50
mhall119ovidiu-florin: sgclark is here and on vacation at the same time17:50
mhall119in some kind of quantum super-position17:50
* sgclark giggles17:51
mhall119marcoceppi is here too, but I suspect also busy with work stuff17:51
* ovidiu-florin doesn't like that sgclark doesn't rest properly17:51
marcoceppihello!17:51
marcoceppiI can invite a few more members17:51
sgclarkovidiu-florin: in short, the dev side of things for Kubuntu still needs a ton of work.17:51
mhall119marcoceppi: are you here for the membership board?17:51
marcoceppiI am now17:51
mhall119marcoceppi: ok, let's wrap up the kubuntu topic first and then we'll pick up the membership board17:52
marcoceppimhall119: sounds good17:52
* sgclark puts back on ucc hat17:52
mhall119sgclark: ovidiu-florin: let's keep in touch about hosting a community-wide packaging party17:52
* marcoceppi shuffles through hats17:52
sgclarkmhall119: sounds good, I will start an email thread.17:53
mhall119and then if there's anything we can do to help with the Launchpad transition, let us know, but I suspect that's going to be more technical than the CC usually gets involved in17:53
ovidiu-florinmhall119: anyone interested can join our next kubuntu party17:53
mhall119ovidiu-florin: when is it?17:53
mhall119Apr 15, right?17:54
ovidiu-florinmhall119: https://plus.google.com/events/cd5cm4806f1sp8mc7gkasvv971o?authkey=CJ3YqNSWhK6rCg17:54
ovidiu-florintimezone rezolved, that way :P17:54
mhall119ovidiu-florin: I can attend some of it17:55
mhall119ok, thanks Kubuntu team!17:55
mhall119#topic Ubuntu Membership Board checkin17:56
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mhall119alright marcoceppi, got your membership board hat?17:56
Kiloso/17:56
mhall119so we only have a few minutes, apologies again for us forgetting about this meeting and starting late17:57
mhall119how have the membership applications been over the last cycle? Are they increasing,decreasing, holding steady?17:57
Kilosholding steady imo17:57
Kilos2 applicants for tonights meeting in 2 hours time17:58
mhall119are they getting good support and testimonials from exiting members?17:58
Kilosi still need to check the second applicants info but first one is fine17:59
Kilosand belkinsa have voted via email already as she cant make it tonight18:00
Kiloss/have/has18:00
mhall119are there any obstacles people are facing? Or reasons that might be keeping qualified people from applying?18:00
Kilosi think everything is working well mhall119 except for peeps applying from areas where the locos are kinda dead or moved to facebook18:01
Kilosbelkinsa and i are working out way through them slowly18:02
mhall119locos moved to facebook, or the people have?18:02
Kilosplaces like bangladesh get free FB so everyone flocked there18:02
Kilosthe people18:03
Kilossorry18:03
mhall119and is that making it difficult to verify somebody's activity?18:03
Kiloswe just struggled to get the leader to return to irc and now he is there daily and will apply for reverification as soon as he has sorted all info on what they have been doing on facebook18:04
Kilosvirtually same support irc gives just on facebook18:04
Kilospeeps seem to be addicted to fb18:05
sgclarkyes and that seems a reasonable end user outreach platform18:05
mhall119yeah, and I think we should accomodate FB activity as much as possible18:06
sgclarkyes18:06
sgclarknot everyone likes irc18:06
Kilosthey are 30 strong on fb18:06
Kilos340 sorry18:06
sgclarkimpressive18:06
Kilosso very strong18:06
mhall119yeah, definitely can't ignore that18:06
mhall119Kilos: so what is the difficult the membership board is facing because of this?18:06
Kilosno difficulty from the boards side18:07
mhall119oh, ok, I misunderstood you earlier then18:07
mhall119is there anything the CC can do for the board? Either with Facebook activity or otherwise?18:08
Kilosjust the last applicant tried to apply the traditional way without and support or guidance18:08
mhall119Kilos: oh, I see18:08
Kilosthere were many applicants that had been waiting for up to 2 years to be approved but no one checked LP18:08
Kilosnow thats sorted18:08
sgclarklp does not notify?18:09
mhall119that's good18:09
Kilosi dont think the membership board is having any problems18:10
Kilosmarcoceppi ??18:11
Kiloswe have just added helping the loco council to revive locos18:11
marcoceppiKilos: I don't think so either, some language barriers at time18:11
marcoceppibut nothing major18:12
mhall119Kilos: I'm happy to hear that you're working with the LC, locos can use all the help we can give them18:12
Kilosmy pleasure18:12
sgclarkyes, thank you18:12
mhall119thank you Kilos and marcoceppi18:12
mhall119and thanks again to the Kubuntu council18:13
Kilosty guys18:13
mhall119if you need us for anything else, you know where to find us :)18:13
sgclarkthanks everyone!18:13
Kilosyes thanks18:13
mhall119#endmeeting18:13
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr  7 18:13:30 2016 UTC.18:13
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* sgclark puts on vacation hat18:13
mhall119go enjoy your time off sgclark18:13
sgclarkoff to see more family, thanks!18:14
Kilosenjoy18:15
Kilosevening everyone19:57
InokiHeya19:57
Kiloshi Inoki Mister_Q20:00
jcastro_hello!20:01
InokiHey there :)20:01
Mister_QHi :)20:01
elacheche_anisHey guys:20:01
toddyHi Inoki20:01
toddyHi Mister_Q20:01
marcoceppi#startmeeting 2000 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board20:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Apr  7 20:01:42 2016 UTC.  The chair is marcoceppi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:01
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elacheche_anis Mister_Q, Inoki will start in a sec20:01
marcoceppiHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2000 UTC meeting for April 7, 2016.20:01
marcoceppiThe wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards20:02
marcoceppiWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.20:02
marcoceppiThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).20:02
marcoceppiEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.20:02
marcoceppiDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.20:02
marcoceppiWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers amounts to at least +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)20:02
marcoceppi#votesrequired 420:02
meetingologyvotes now need 4 to be passed20:02
marcoceppi#voters marcoceppi jcastro_ elacheche_anis Kilos ahoneybun belkinsa hggdh PabloRubianes popey toddy wxl20:03
meetingologyWarning: Nick not in channel: belkinsa20:03
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos PabloRubianes ahoneybun belkinsa elacheche_anis hggdh jcastro_ marcoceppi popey toddy wxl20:03
Kiloso/20:03
elacheche_aniso/20:03
toddyo/20:03
jcastro_o/20:03
marcoceppiNow, without any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...20:03
Kilosbelkinsa apologised guys20:03
Kilosother commitments20:03
marcoceppi#topic Mister_Q20:04
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Kilosand hggdh20:04
marcoceppiMister_Q: please introduce yourself and provide a link to your entry!20:04
Mister_QMy name is Marius Quabeck. I'm 21 years old, live in Germany and I have been using Ubuntu since 2011.20:04
Mister_QI spend most of my "Ubuntu time" writing blog articels about Ubuntu Phone/Desktop/Convergence on ubuntufun<dot>de ,managing its community and producing a podcast.20:04
Mister_QI'm also part of the UbuCon Europe & UbuContest organising team. My LP is https://launchpad.net/~misterq and my Wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mister_Q .20:04
jcastro_Are you in a Local Team?20:05
Mister_QNot yet but I'm thinking about joining the german loco team20:06
toddyI think I can add you Mister_Q20:06
Mister_Qcool :)20:06
toddyYou help us by the UbuCon in Essen, I think20:06
Mister_Qyes20:07
toddyMister_Q: now you are a member :)20:07
toddyof the loco team20:07
jcastro_heh, clever20:07
Mister_Qthanks toddy20:07
tcarrondogo go Mister_Q20:08
elacheche_anisMister_Q: Technical contributions are important, but it's important to be part of the loco as well :D20:08
marcoceppiOkay, any other questions? Anyone here for support?20:09
elacheche_anisI think tcarrondo is here to support Mister_Q, right?20:09
tcarrondoYep20:10
marcoceppi#vote Mister_Q20:10
meetingologyPlease vote on: Mister_Q20:10
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:10
tcarrondocannot stay long20:10
tcarrondoBut I should pass by20:10
Kilos+1 nice work. keep it up20:10
meetingology+1 nice work. keep it up received from Kilos20:10
marcoceppi+1 great contributions!20:10
meetingology+1 great contributions! received from marcoceppi20:10
jcastro_+1 no brainer!20:10
meetingology+1 no brainer! received from jcastro_20:10
hggdh+1 indeed20:10
tcarrondoMister_Q: +120:10
meetingology+1 indeed received from hggdh20:10
toddy+1 - Thank you for your work and I hope to see you in Essen20:10
meetingology+1 - Thank you for your work and I hope to see you in Essen received from toddy20:10
elacheche_anis+1 Keep the good work, and don't forget about the LoCo :)20:10
meetingology+1 Keep the good work, and don't forget about the LoCo :) received from elacheche_anis20:10
marcoceppi#endvote20:11
meetingologyVoting ended on: Mister_Q20:11
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:11
meetingologyMotion carried20:11
jcastro_\o/20:11
elacheche_anisCongrats Mister_Q20:11
toddycongrats Mister_Q20:11
Mister_Qthanks guys \o/ :)20:11
Kiloscongratulations Mister_Q and welcome aboard20:11
marcoceppiNext up!20:11
tcarrondocongrats Mister_Q20:11
marcoceppi#topic Inoki20:12
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marcoceppiInoki: please introduce yourself and provide a link to your entry!20:12
InokiHello! I'm Patrik, I'm one of the designers of Ubuntu GNOME, a member of the Marketing Team (formerly Artwork and Design) since Nov. 2014.20:12
InokiI've been using Ubuntu since around 2010 and I strongly believe in the concept and philosophy that is Ubuntu.20:12
InokiI'm a graphic designer by degree and my work is my passion! :)20:12
InokiMy Wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Inoki and my Launchpad is https://launchpad.net/~inoki20:12
jcastro_2010? How come it took 7 years for you to apply?20:13
Inoki:D20:13
InokiWell... I was just a user, spreading the word, now I'm a contributor. And a very active one :)20:13
Kilosyes that should be interesting to hear20:14
elacheche_anisI think Ali encouraged you to apply now x)20:14
InokiBoth Tim and Ali :)20:14
toddyvery cute work: https://dribbble.com/shots/2599217-ubuntugnome-org-the-redesign-V2-120:14
elacheche_anis:)20:14
InokiThank you!20:14
InokiWe're hard at work. I love my team! :D20:14
elacheche_anisInoki: Do you contribute to your LoCo?20:16
InokiI don't know if we actually have one in Slovakia20:16
InokiOr if it's active20:16
marcoceppiyet ;)20:16
InokiBut if given the opportunity, sure :)20:16
elacheche_anisInoki: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-sk/ Try to find out :D20:16
KilosInoki get one going or motivate the old one20:16
elacheche_anisAnd help them verify the LoCo and grow it :)20:17
Inokielacheche_anis: will do! :)20:17
elacheche_anis:)20:17
Kilosits all about team work20:17
toddy:)20:17
InokiFor now, I'm there for my guys and we will make Ubuntu GNOME awesome! :)20:17
InokiWe're, like Ali says, a family :)20:17
marcoceppiOkay, any other questions or comments?20:18
Kilosthats how your whole loco should be20:18
Kilosone happy fmily20:18
Kilosfamily20:18
marcoceppi#vote Inoki20:18
meetingologyPlease vote on: Inoki20:18
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:18
InokiI'm a guy who believes in the concept of Unity more than anything else :) I will help where I can, when I can :)20:18
jcastro_+1 love the work you all are doing for GNOMErs everywhere!20:18
meetingology+1 love the work you all are doing for GNOMErs everywhere! received from jcastro_20:18
marcoceppi+1 amazing work, keep up the great work!20:18
meetingology+1 amazing work, keep up the great work! received from marcoceppi20:18
toddy+1 - very nice work. I love it.20:18
meetingology+1 - very nice work. I love it. received from toddy20:18
Kilos+1 keep it up20:19
meetingology+1 keep it up received from Kilos20:19
hggdh+1 keep on the good work!20:19
meetingology+1 keep on the good work! received from hggdh20:19
elacheche_anis+1, keep the good work.. It's always good to hear that the community think about members as family.. :)20:19
meetingology+1, keep the good work.. It's always good to hear that the community think about members as family.. :) received from elacheche_anis20:19
wxl+1 keep it up!20:19
meetingology+1 keep it up! received from wxl20:19
marcoceppi#endvote20:19
meetingologyVoting ended on: Inoki20:19
meetingologyVotes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:19
meetingologyMotion carried20:19
marcoceppiWelcome!20:19
toddycongrats Inoki20:19
marcoceppiis there any other business?20:19
wxlcongrats Inoki20:19
InokiTHANK YOU! :D20:19
elacheche_anisCongrats Inoki :)20:19
KilosInoki encourage others to apply as well20:19
InokiSure will do, more are coming! Alfredo, Gaurav (our web dev)20:20
Kiloscongratulations and welcome aboard20:20
InokiThank you everyone! A true honour! :)20:20
Kilosits an honour having you on board20:20
marcoceppiThank you meembers for joining, thank you all who attended20:21
marcoceppi#endmeeting20:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr  7 20:21:11 2016 UTC.20:21
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-07-20.01.moin.txt20:21
KilosMister_Q encourage more from your side as well please20:21
Kilosty marcoceppi20:21
Mister_QKilos sure :)20:21
Mister_Qtoddy see you in Essen ! :)20:22
toddyyes, Mister_Q :)20:22
wxli/msg tsimonq2 you don't look like an ass20:24
tsimonq2O_O20:24
mhall119welcome new members!20:25
wxlargh20:25
elacheche_anisloool wxl20:25
* tsimonq2 runs and hides20:25
mhall119wxl: wrong channel I hope20:25
InokiThank you mhall119! :)20:25
wxlmhall119: yeeah apparently :/20:25
elacheche_anisI don't want to ask what's going on wxl tsimonq2 :D #troll20:25
Mister_Qthanks mhall119 :) far more excited right now than i could put in words \o/20:26
mhall119that / can bite you when it's not in the right place :)20:26
mhall119Mister_Q: Inoki: we're very glad to have you :)20:26
Kilos:D20:27
Kilosall good mhall11920:28
ahoneybunsorry marcoceppi I've had a headache the last 3 hours or so and did not see the message21:57

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