| Jordan_U | !ubuwin | 04:56 |
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| ubottu | Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality has not yet been released. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 04:56 |
| Jordan_U | !no ubuwin is <reply> Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 04:58 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, Jordan_U said: !no ubuwin is <reply> Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 04:58 |
| Jordan_U | !no ubuwin is <reply> Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 04:59 |
| dax | @login | 04:59 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 04:59 |
| dax | !ubuwin | 04:59 |
| ubottu | Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality has not yet been released. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss. | 04:59 |
| dax | !ubuwin =~ s/has not yet been released/is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu/ | 04:59 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that dax | 04:59 |
| Jordan_U | I did a successfull @login in PM before my second attempt, so I don't know why it failed. Maybe because it was a "duplicate" request and thus ignored? | 05:00 |
| dax | yeah, it gets prissy about duplicate requests | 05:00 |
| dax | we really need to figure out what to do about Ubuntu for Windows long-term. | 05:05 |
| dax | i don't think #ubuntu is a good idea. i like popey's #ubuntu-for-windows idea. i do not particularly like the complete lack of useful replies to it. | 05:05 |
| Jordan_U | I think how good of an idea it is to support in #ubuntu might depend on how good the implementation is. Right now, definitely not: Only allows root user, no DRI even though you can get X to work running the server as a Windows app, and numerous other subtle bugs due to things like differences between linux processes/threads and the windows threads used to implement them that end up giving errors messa | 05:11 |
| Jordan_U | ges and results that can't be easily recognised as Windows specific. | 05:11 |
| Jordan_U | I don't expect that to change enough before it's officially "released" as non-beta, so maybe it should be uncontroversial to have #ubuntu-for-windows at the start and only allow discussion in #ubuntu once the vast majority of problems in #ubuntu-for-windows are clearly not Windows specific (if that ever happens). | 05:14 |
| dax | what's it actually officially called | 05:15 |
| Jordan_U | dax: Multiple things as far as I can tell, including "bash on Ubuntu on Windows" "Windows services for Linux" and "lsx". | 05:18 |
| dax | the middle one seems to be the name of the bit of the Windows kernel that supports it, which presumably is outside of our area of things | 05:18 |
| Jordan_U | dax: Indeed. | 05:19 |
| dax | i've seen "Ubuntu on Windows" a few times but mostly in the context of it, like, literally being Ubuntu on Windows | 05:19 |
| dax | see this is why it's absurd that there's a community called Ubuntu that produces a distro called Ubuntu and is attached to a company that makes other products and also calls them Ubuntu (sometimes with extra words) | 05:19 |
| dax | anyway | 05:20 |
| dax | #ubuntu-on-windows i guess | 05:20 |
| Jordan_U | And I think focusing on "bash" is a little silly, but it does appear to be what they're doing: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/ "Run native Bash on Ubuntu on Windows". | 05:20 |
| dax | well i mean it's Windows, it's silly out of the box | 05:20 |
| dax | screw it, I'm registering #ubuntu-on-windows, registering #ubuntu-for-windows, +if'ing the latter to the former, and flagging the IRCC as founder on both | 05:21 |
| Jordan_U | Cool. | 05:22 |
| dax | if anyone wants ops there, let me know. ubuntu/member/* and freenode/staff/* have it already | 05:39 |
| elky | +1 to the separate channels. even without the oddities it's goign to have, it'll turn #ubuntu into a windows support channel within approxmately .3 of a second. | 05:40 |
| Jordan_U | Is giving all Ubuntu members ops access in a channel common? That seems a little too broad a class of people to trust. | 05:40 |
| elky | it works for -release-party | 05:41 |
| dax | Jordan_U: #ubuntu-irc, #ubuntu-unregged, etc. I'll probably remove it if it gets an actual ops team | 05:41 |
| dax | just don't wanna throw it out there and then go to sleep | 05:41 |
| dax | correction: if it gets an actual ops team, one of them can have +F and figure out ubuntu member flags | 05:42 |
| * dax wanders off | 05:44 | |
| Pici | <akira_> reisio | 20:58 |
| Pici | <reisio> akira_: KANEDAAAA | 20:58 |
| Pici | :) | 20:58 |
| k1l | had today again pm spam from smart_girl [~amelia@189.84.244.177], was there last weeks with pm spam as _crazy_girl [~crazy@189.84.244.177] | 21:12 |
| Myrtti | noted, gotten rid of | 21:15 |
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