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ca107hey00:01
ca107any1 in here?00:02
k1l_yep00:02
ca107just installed Ubuntu00:02
ca107seems pretty good, i am suprised of what Linux is really capable of00:03
rud0lfit's great, isn't it? :)00:03
ca107RDP, Team Viewer, Office 365 email via IMAP and SMTP00:03
ca107yeah it is00:03
ca107i've messed with kali and the old backtack years ago, but since this win10 deal I am starting to migrate to use linux00:04
ca107any good pointers to some solid documentation and resources for linux?00:06
k1l_!rute | ca10700:07
ubottuca107: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf00:07
comrade_you can choose a course on udemy00:08
ca107thx ubottu00:09
skypcehelp me please00:11
skypceINFO lmms_1.1.90-0~2~ubuntu14.04.1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1.1.90-0~2~ubuntu14.04.1 <= 1.1.90-1ubuntu000:12
k1l_skypce: "apt-cache policy lmms| nc termbin.com 9999"00:14
k1l_skypce: please show the url here00:14
skypcehttp://termbin.com/9otk00:14
skypcek1l_,00:14
comrade_what do you guys prefer, mint or ubuntu ?00:14
comrade_I'm new @linux just curious00:15
skypcecomrade_, try with unidockynapse :D00:15
k1l_comrade_: ubuntu (since you ask in #ubuntu)00:15
GFXDudeI am having an issue upgrading a few systems. They have long since been upgraded to 12.04 LTS from 8.04 way back when, and it appears whomever did the upgrades in the past did not do so properly. The issue at hand is: http://pastebin.com/raw/y6tLUf3L00:15
GFXDudeThe libc6 on the system is 2.15-0ubuntu10.6, however it needs to be up to 2.15-0ubuntu10.1300:16
GFXDudeI would assume a round of: apt-get update     apt-get upgrade00:16
skypcetalking about ubuntu, the 16.04 version, now has bottom launcher, but will be with indellihide ?00:16
GFXDudewould resolve the issue00:16
k1l_skypce: erm. that doesnt make sense. can you give more details what your issue is?00:16
GFXDudeHowever, the upgrade spits out the pastebin result as well00:16
GFXDudeSo, I believe my final solution will be downloading the package manually and installing00:17
skypcek1l_, may be the problem is the folder00:17
skypcei am creating a package new00:17
GFXDudeI ran: apt-cache policy libc6        It reports the Candidate: 2.15-0ubuntu10.1300:17
k1l_GFXDude: "sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"00:17
GFXDudek1l_, I would like to resolve the issue without dist-upgrade at this time00:18
GFXDudeWe plan to devise an upgrade scheme to move to 16.04 once it is released00:18
k1l_GFXDude: apt-get dist-upgrade will not bring you to the ubuntu 14.04 release00:18
k1l_(that would be the "do-release-upgrade" command)00:18
GFXDudehmm, ok, let me review what dist-upgrade is for before issuing it00:19
k1l_apt-get cant remove or install new packages as depencies with the "apt-get upgrade" option. it needs the dist-upgrade option for that.00:19
k1l_(on the new apt command it  got renamed to "apt full-upgrade" to resolve that confusing naming.00:20
GFXDudek1l_, are there any specific sources needed for appropriate resolution? This machine is essentially just used to run OpenVPN Acess Server. The current sources.list is: http://pastebin.com/raw/9yNWbeNX00:22
GFXDudeI have commented out the natty00:22
GFXDudeI'm not sure why that's there... It's not on my stock release image of this version, I believe someone in the past has added it for some unknown reason00:22
k1l_uh, mixing releases is not good00:23
GFXDudeyeah... This product has a long line of random developers getting their hands dirty with it. I'm looking to rectify those issues and clean up all of our deployed systems.00:24
k1l_comment that out. then run apt-get update00:24
GFXDudeok, updated, now i'll issue your previous command00:25
k1l_what does a "apt-cache policy libc6 libc-bin" say?00:25
GFXDude1 sec00:25
GFXDudelibc-bin is up to date00:25
GFXDudelibc6 states that 2.15-0ubuntu10.6 is installed, and the candidate is 2.15-0ubuntu10.1300:26
GFXDudeso that seems appropriate00:26
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k1l_and libc-bin?00:27
GFXDudelibc-bin says 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 installed, 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 candidate00:27
k1l_try the apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade00:28
k1l_if that still doesnt help you can run "apt-get install -f" which will force it00:29
GFXDudethe update && dist-upgrade gives the same error00:30
k1l_skypce: wait, why you have lucid and trusty repos enabled?00:30
k1l_GFXDude: ok, then apt-get install -f00:30
skypcek1l_, it is by default kxstudio-repos00:31
k1l_skypce: that is crap.00:31
GFXDudek1l_, doing that states that LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains the traditional /lib direcotry, but not the multiarch directory /lib/i386-linux-gnu. It is not safe to ugprade the C library in this situation; please remove the /lib/directory from LD_LIBRARY_PATH and try again00:32
user52hola00:32
GFXDudeI have attempted the install -f in the past00:32
k1l_GFXDude: hmm.00:32
GFXDudeI've attempted to add the /lib/i386-linux-gnu to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and that ends up getting further, but still errors with the aforementoined libc6 issue00:32
k1l_GFXDude: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib/i386-linux-gnu" seems to be a fix/workaround for that00:35
GFXDudeYou can see the full error here: http://pastebin.com/raw/QDB9ftDS00:35
GFXDudek1l_, so completely overwrite LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of appending?00:35
k1l_GFXDude: you could append it if there is other stuff in it00:36
GFXDudeIt is currently: /lib:/usr/lib:/opt/vmware/lib00:36
k1l_hmm00:37
k1l_add the 2 from me00:37
GFXDudeSo: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib/i386-linux-gnu"00:37
GFXDudeAha! Adding those two then: apt-get install -y -f      the apt-cache policy libc6 now shows 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 for both00:40
k1l_ok00:40
k1l_you will need to run the apt-get dist-upgrade, too. "1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 125 not upgraded."  says there are lots of updates waiting00:41
GFXDudeTrying it now00:41
k1l_but look at what it wants to update there. i bet its kernels etc.00:41
GFXDudeNice, I've been wondering why it wouldn't ever upgrade past linux-image-3.2.0-56... now it wants to install 3.2.0-10100:42
k1l_yeah, the libc issue was keeping the updates back00:42
GFXDudeThere are many old kernels on here, that too needs resolving00:43
GFXDudeI'm worried that running the dist-upgrade before removing the old kernels may fill the /dev/sda1 boot partition00:43
GFXDudeit's currently at 76% use00:43
k1l_ah yeah.00:43
k1l_dpkg -l | grep linux-image00:44
k1l_that will list the old kernelpackages00:44
GFXDudeThe goal is to automate this in a bash script, I'm not sure how safe removing old kernels via .sh would be00:44
k1l_there are bash oneliners to remove all but the 2 last kernels00:44
GFXDudecurrent kernels: http://pastebin.com/raw/GeVmPcr700:45
GFXDudeI know all 2.6.foo should be removed00:45
k1l_apt-get purge linux-image-2.6*00:45
GFXDudei'd like to find a one-liner that verifies it's not removing the current kernel listed from "uname -r"00:45
GFXDudeOne liner isn't necessary, it'll be in a .sh doing other things like upgrading openvpn00:46
k1l_http://askubuntu.com/a/254585/3126000:47
gshmuhttp://img.vim-cn.com/0e/67f9664ad8df58ca8a3cd8e77b92c72221ac66.png00:47
gshmuUbuntu uname -a00:48
gshmuLinux  4.4.0-14-generic #30~14.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 17 17:15:49 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:48
k1l_GFXDude: as long os "linux-generic" is installed you will always have the latest kernel and headers installed.00:48
k1l_*as00:48
GFXDudek1l_, from the link provided, I am running: "dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -e '/'`uname -r`'/q;p'  "00:52
GFXDudeTo check the list00:53
GFXDudeuname -r prints "3.2.0-67-generic-pae"00:53
GFXDudehowever the dpkg...sed command includes "linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic-pae" in the list00:53
GFXDudeI believe due to the "linux-image-" part00:54
k1l_GFXDude: why sed -e?00:55
GFXDudeEhh, does the same without -e00:56
k1l_-n00:56
GFXDudeHmm, I was under the impression that -n wouldn't output anything00:57
GFXDudeBut man sed shows me that the p at the end fixes that00:57
GFXDudeso, -n shows the expected output, though it still include "linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic"00:58
GFXDudewithout the -pae00:58
k1l_somewhere ubuntu did include the pae as standard in the kernels and dropped the -pae naming00:59
GFXDudeSo, having the "...generic" and "...generic-pae" both installed, and allowing the "...generic" to be purged is the expected result?01:00
trevor_shey has anyone had success dual booting windows 10 and ubuntu? both with 'full disk encryption'?01:01
GFXDudeI'll test it out on some test environment equipment, Thanks for all of the help k1l_, I owe you a couple beers!01:02
k1l_np, gl :)01:02
sh0thi guys i upgraded to 15.1001:08
sh0tand now i don't have gnome-sound-applet01:08
sh0tanymore01:08
sh0tbut indicator-sound is installed01:08
sh0tso apt says01:08
gshmuthanks, but the message display miss many chart01:12
ksftI'm trying to compile a thing, but it's saying this:01:13
ksft"fatal error: hunspell/hunspell.hxx: No such file or directory, #include "hunspell/hunspell.hxx""01:13
ksftis that something that someone could possibly help me with without being familiar with the thing I'm compiling?01:14
Hydr0p0nXksft https://github.com/cloose/CuteMarkEd/issues/11701:15
ksftHydr0p0nX: is there a workaround someone there figured out that I'm missing?01:17
vervetksft: assuming you have libhunspell-dev installed right?01:18
connor_test01:18
ksftvervet: I think so01:19
connor_can anyone hear/see me01:19
ksftconnor_: yes01:19
connor_good01:19
ksftvervet: huh01:19
ksftwell that solves that01:19
ksftnow I'm getting different errors that you probably can't help with01:20
ksftoh wait01:20
ksftthey seem to be coming from Boost01:20
GFXDudek1l_, I'm now getting a similar issue for libc6-dev. "apt-cache policy libc6-dev" reports 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 Installed, 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 Candidate01:20
ksft"/usr/include/boost/functional/hash/extensions.hpp:269:34: note:   ‘const wxUniChar’ is not derived from ‘const std::complex<_Tp>’ return hash_value(val);"01:21
GFXDudeThat comes from an: "apt-get -f install"01:22
vervetksft: is the compile failing on that? doesn't seem like it should01:22
ksftvervet: there are a lot of other errors too01:22
GFXDudefull output here: http://pastebin.com/raw/rbG74Tg301:23
vervetksft: possibly warning messages from gcc? if you get something like "failed to make target .." please post though01:24
ksftvervet: that phrase is not in the output01:26
ksfthow do I know if it succeeded?01:26
ksftwhere would it put the executable?01:27
vervetksft: if you were just running make it should be in the build directory, possibly in a folder like ./bin01:29
ksftvervet: I don't see a folder like that01:29
GFXDudek1l_, it seems to be stemming from doing "apt-get update" before the export and "apt-get -f install", doing the install before update installs the 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 version of each without any issues. I believe I'll just stick with that path, do the upgrade and then try dist-upgrade.01:30
ksftthere are no new folders there at all01:30
Jordan_Uksft: Why are you building hunspell from source?01:31
ksftJordan_U: I'm not01:31
ksftI'm building a thing that uses hunspell01:31
Jordan_Uksft: What are you trying to build from source and why?01:31
ksftJordan_U: a program called Magic Set Editor because the precompiled binaries don't work according to the website01:32
temmi_hooJordan_U, k1l_ I thought the version numbers were semantic and only now read how they work in ubuntu as opposed to many other sw. Also, i thought the codenames were from debian, which at least started with character names from the movie toy story. Apologies for being a rude person on channel.01:32
vervetksft: did you get any other exit errors? did the compile complete? any info would help01:34
temmi_hooAbout the techy problem I know where I went wrong and that the easiest way to fix it is to install 15.10 on top of existing mess that resulted when my wrong acts caused do-release-upgrade to jump 14.04 -> 15.1001:35
temmi_hooalso, that has to be done on site as my ssh session to the machine does not last very long01:35
ksftvervet: here's the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15662843/01:37
vervetksft: ok thanks, before running make were you able to get a successful ./configure?01:40
ksftvervet: I think so01:42
ksftvervet: just tried configuring a new copy01:43
ksftit seems successful, but then it says this at the end:01:43
ksft"configure: error: Could not find a version of the Boost::Regex library!"01:43
Jordan_Uksft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/267949/trying-to-compile-magic-set-editor01:44
vervetksft: I was just about to send you the same link, I'd install all those dependencies mentioned there01:45
vervetksft: libboost-all-dev will likely take care of that last error01:45
ksftvervet: tried installing that package01:46
ksft"Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have01:46
ksftrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable01:46
ksftdistribution that some required packages have not yet been created01:46
ksftor been moved out of Incoming."01:46
Jordan_Uksft: What version of Ubuntu are you using?01:47
ksftJordan_U: 14.0401:47
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Knoodlehello people i have a problem with my ubuntu 15.10 on Lenovo laptop01:53
Knoodlesomebody can help?01:53
Hydr0p0nXwhats the problem?01:54
Bashing-om!details | Knoodle01:54
ubottuKnoodle: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)01:54
rhorse_Hi, I'm using 15.10 with grub-efi. If I install another distro on a partition on the same disk, will Ubuntu find it and display a grub menu for making a choice? Right now, no menu is displayed.01:54
tarabayyeah man! dotn ask to ask01:54
rhorse_Hi, I'm using 15.10 with grub-efi. If I install another distro on a partition on the same disk, will Ubuntu find it and display a grub menu for making a choice? Right now, no menu is displayed.01:54
vervetksft: is your system up-to-date/clean?01:54
Knoodlemy computer doesnt shutdown properly neither reboot. and if i set it to sleep closing it... then it stuck and cant awake it- i ve tried to change the grub configuration but.. nothing.. any idea?01:54
Bashing-omrhorse_: That last install made in EFI mode also ? as the 2 are not compatible .01:55
Jordan_Urhorse_: Please don't repeat yourself. Wait at least 5 minutes before re-posting your question.01:55
rhorse_Jordan_U: yea, sorry, I didn't see the first post...01:55
Hydr0p0nXKnoodle, what happens when you shutdown or reboot ?01:56
rhorse_Bashing-om: What is not compatible?01:56
NETWizzI just installed the insider win 10 with Bash01:57
Knoodlethe pc just get stuck... doesnt switch off completely01:57
Bashing-omrhorse_: If intalled in bios as opposed to EFI .01:57
Knoodlefor example... the van and the mouse light stay on01:57
Jordan_Urhorse_: Ubuntu's update-grub automatically run os-prober to search for other OSs. If any other OSs that can be booted are found they will be added to the grub menu and the grub menu will be unhidden. That said, most likely the distribution you install will install its own version of grub which will take precidence over Ubuntu's (but which should add Ubuntu to *its* grub menu).01:57
NETWizzCan it run all my Ubuntu stuff?01:57
stormchaser3000well i was just on another channel that is for my distro but i didn't get any help there01:57
Jordan_U!win10 | NETWizz01:58
ubottuNETWizz: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality has not yet been released. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-discuss.01:58
Knoodleand for example if i try to reboot... it stays like that.. and doesnt restart01:58
Knoodleand... when i close the laptop.. then i can not awake it back01:58
stormchaser3000anyone know how to get around the error about libcompizconfig configure script not seeing that compiz is installed?01:59
Hydr0p0nXKnoodle: anything on the screen when it gets stuck ?01:59
stormchaser3000(the one from the compiz-reloaded repo)01:59
rhorse_Jordan_U: if I don't install grub for the new OS, will it be found? Do I have to make the second OS aware of UEFI in any way, or do I just install to HDD?01:59
xanguastormchaser3000: because it needs compiz reloaded?02:00
Knoodlejust the pink screen with small white dots of Ubuntu..02:00
stormchaser3000xangua: compiz from the compiz-reloaded repo is installed02:00
xanguastormchaser3000: if you have any problem with a third party repository, contacts the maintainer02:00
Knoodleso... i have to force the shutdown pressing the power button02:00
stormchaser3000i did but everyone on that channel is afk02:00
Jordan_Urhorse_: If you don't install grub for the new OS then you will just need to boot into Ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" to get the new OS added to grub's menu. You don't need to make the second OS install a UEFI bootloader, but if it's a distribution which doesn't support UEFI you're likely to run into problems (Ubuntu's grub will boot it via UEFI, and it may or may not handle that correctly). Most distr02:01
Jordan_Uibutions support UEFI will now.02:01
Hydr0p0nXknoodle: what model laptop ?02:02
Knoodlelenovo B50-3002:02
Knoodlei ve tried to change the grub config but nothing changed...02:03
Hydr0p0nXKnoodle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/645557/lubuntu-shutdown-process-freezes indicates there's a bios update that may be needed02:03
Knoodlecool02:04
ksftvervet: I'm pretty sure it's up to date02:04
ksftI don't know what you mean by02:04
ksft"clean"02:04
Jordan_Uksft: The fact that the most recent commit was made in 2012, and that it's a C++ app, doesn't bode well for it compiling and running in 14.04.02:04
Knoodlethe problem is that i asked to the Lenovo assistance but they say Linux is not supported by them02:04
ksftwhoops02:04
rhorse_Jordan_U: thank you!02:04
Jordan_Urhorse_: You're welcome.02:04
Knoodleso.. you think i can make a bios update from linux?02:04
ksftJordan_U: is there something wrong with C++ on Ubuntu?02:04
Hydr0p0nXaccording to the link, no02:04
Hydr0p0nXbut you may be able to from a winPE type disk02:05
Knoodleoops.. i see only from windows... that sucks02:05
vervetksft: apt-get update/upgrade may help just in case, so that any package dependencies aren't locked back.. and not with c++ itself but the versions of dependencies, e.g. all those packages listed may have been updated since02:06
Hydr0p0nXmight try just the grub updates first02:06
Knoodlethank you anyway02:07
vervetksft: so idk if the update will help or not, it's hard to know just guessing at the dependencies02:07
tooryasnmhello02:08
tooryasnmsup people02:08
ksftvervet: did that02:08
ksftstill can't install libboost-all-dev02:08
Hydr0p0nXKnoodle:  http://windowsmatters.com/2015/01/10/gandalfs-windows-7-pe-x86/ + a USB w/ the bios update might work02:09
Jordan_Uksft: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev".02:10
tooryasnmksft, whats the problem amte?02:10
AphelionZHeyo, can anybody explain to me how the python installation(s) work on an out-of-the-box Ubuntu install? I only ask because when I pip install something, I dont get the executable in the path and it seems like there's something I'm missing or something that's not right...02:11
Hydr0p0nXKnoodle: please keep it in the channel02:11
ksftJordan_U, tooryasnm: here's the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663030/02:11
AphelionZI understand that there's python, python2.7, python3.4, and python3.5 but neither pip, sudo pip, nor python -m pip are successfully installing tools like jupyter on my path02:12
rick__Hi All, How to compare two environment in udev? I tried ENV{key1}=="$env{key2} but fail02:13
GFXDudeI've managed to get past my earlier trials. Now my issue is when attempting to programmatically do "apt-get dist-upgrade". I would like to auto-select the "install the package maintainer's version" option when it is installing the latest grub menu, however everything I've found in regards to it doesn't work for me. I've set "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" and I've tried: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive02:15
GFXDudeapt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" dist-upgrade02:15
GFXDudehowever I still get the pink screen prompting me to choose if I want to keep the locally modified version02:15
vervetAphelionZ: may want to check pip --version02:15
AphelionZpip 1.5.6 from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages (python 2.7)02:16
AphelionZdoes that mean my executables are in /usr/lib/python2.7 somewhere?02:17
vervetksft: http://askubuntu.com/a/223267 -- possibly?02:17
ksftwhat are held packages?02:18
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tooryasnmAphelionZ, can u private?02:18
Jordan_Uksft: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" and "sudo apt-get -f install".02:18
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guideXis it possible to install team viewer on ubuntu02:19
guideXI get all these "team viewer depends on blah blah"02:19
wh3ko19guideX: I have it installed.02:19
wh3ko19It's been a while since I did it, though, so I can't really give you more than an existence proof.02:20
guideXah ok cool02:20
wh3ko19I think they have a .deb or something you can download.02:20
ksftJordan_U: I assume that's "sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev"02:20
ksftright?02:20
guideXyeah I have the .deb, and I tried the command.. but there's like 20 other things it depends on it seems02:20
ksft-f*02:20
wh3ko19Question: Is there a repository of the source for various Ubuntu packages? I think there's an Ubuntu-specific bug in Python 3.4, but I can't find the CPython source they used.02:20
ksftsudo apt-get -f install libboost-all-dev02:20
vervetAphelionZ: not 100% where it defaults to but yes, would have installed for 2.7 -- which version of python were you trying to run with? that's likely the discrepancy02:21
wh3ko19The github CPython repo doesn't have the bug.02:21
ksftsame error02:22
ksftthe first command says that it's Ubuntu 14.04 trusty02:22
guideXah man, so when I try to get one of the things team viewer depends on, there's like 30 new things to get.. is there some way to just get everything it needs?02:22
AphelionZvervet: running 2.7 for now - thats what pip --version, sudo pip --version and python -m pip --version all report02:22
wh3ko19guideX: Maybe try sudo apt-get build-dep teamviewer?02:22
AphelionZI can run them from python -m _____ though!02:23
davidoLast I checked (which wasn't recently) the Boost .deb's were a minor version or two behind though. If you want freshest, go to boost and compile.02:23
AphelionZas in python -m jupyter02:23
wh3ko19I'm a bit rusty with that stuff.02:23
guideXah ok02:23
guideXtrying it..02:23
guideXno, unable to find package source for teamviewer02:23
wh3ko19I guess teamviewer is not in the repo, there might be a ppa for it.02:23
guideXah ok02:24
guideXso I guess linux doesn't have like installers02:24
guideXer ubuntu02:24
wh3ko19Usually you use apt or that application store.02:24
wh3ko19There's also the .deb things, those are kinda like installers.02:24
wh3ko19I dunno how they handle dependencies.02:24
vervetAphelionZ: if they are modules you were trying to run, yes, sorry - should've asked first hand02:24
AphelionZvervet: it's ok02:25
wh3ko19Usually for the useful stuff someone puts up a ppa if it's not supported in the official repo.02:25
guideXah ok02:25
wh3ko19guideX: Try this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/453157/how-to-install-teamviewer-on-14-0402:25
Hydr0p0nXguideX: maybe - http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html02:25
AphelionZbut on other systems ive been able to say, `pip install jupyter`, and then just run `jupyter`02:25
AphelionZnot python -m jupyter02:25
Jordan_Uksft: No, literally "sudo apt-get -f install".02:25
wh3ko19AphelionZ: What about typing "which python" vs "which Jupyter"?02:25
davidoyou're not using something like pyenv are you?02:26
wh3ko19AphelionZ: Maybe your alias for jupyter is for a different one than the python alias.02:26
AphelionZwh3ko19: /usr/bin/python and null02:26
wh3ko19You don't have a jupyter alias then, right? Probably it's in /usr/bin/lib/python2.7?02:27
FManTropyxwould you recommend vsftpd?02:27
somsipFManTropyx: only if you really mus have ftp, but I found it easy to setup02:28
guideXhrm, I wonder if something's wrong with my ubuntu.. I tried the sudo apt-get install gdebi but it needs all these dependencies02:28
wh3ko19Is there a way to use apt to get a source distribution?02:28
ksftJordan_U: done02:28
guideXI don't understand why ubuntu isn't handling the dependencies automatically02:28
ksftdoesn't seem to have done anything02:28
Jordan_Uksft: Please pastebin the complete output.02:28
somsipwh3ko19: apt-get source {packagename}02:29
Hydr0p0nXguideX: what version are you trying to install?02:29
wh3ko19somsip: Danke schoen.02:29
AphelionZwh3ko19: yes thats the problem, but i think the underlying issue is that pip didnt create that for me? on other systems it used to02:29
somsipwh3ko19: np02:29
AphelionZbut thank you! yes!02:29
guideXHydr0p0nX: I have ubuntu 14.0402:30
wh3ko19AphelionZ: I think the problem is that /usr/bin/lib/python2.7 isn't in your path.02:30
rhorse_guideX: can you pastebin the output of apt-get?02:30
wh3ko19I think just modify your ~/.bashrc to add it in.02:30
guideXhrm, hold on02:30
AphelionZwh3ko19: let me see, one sec02:31
wh3ko19Actually, AphelionZ, it seems to me that it should be in /usr/local/bin02:31
guideXhttp://pastebin.com/HLAmAQzZ02:31
AphelionZyeah something in /usr/local/bin should point to the dist-packages02:31
guideXrhorse_ ^02:31
AphelionZshouldn't pip do that?02:32
guideXit needs like so many things lol02:32
guideXand then, when I try to install one of those things, that thing needs so many thigns02:32
wh3ko19AphelionZ: I think usually pip will install something directly in /usr/local/bin, depending on how you ran it.02:32
wh3ko19I certainly have a jupyter in /usr/local/bin02:32
wh3ko19Though the one I'm actually using is the one provided by Anaconda.02:32
ksftJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663143/02:32
wh3ko19guideX: Did you try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'?02:33
AphelionZ /home/REDACTED/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages02:33
rhorse_guideX: is this a new install?02:34
guideXyeah02:34
guideXit's new02:34
rhorse_guideX: have you run apt-get update recently?02:34
guideXi've never ran it02:34
rhorse_that's why02:34
guideXok running that02:35
Jordan_Uksft: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade".02:35
guideXit ran, and then I ran the other command again, and I have the same problem with the dependencies02:35
wh3ko19Hm. This source seems identical to the posted one. That's very strange.02:36
ksftJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663157/02:36
Jordan_Uksft: Do you know why those packages are being kept back?02:37
rhorse_guideX: something is broken. Try running it with the -f option, like wh3ko19 suggested.02:37
ksftJordan_U: no02:37
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FManTropyxdo apt-get dist-upgrade02:39
guideXhuh02:41
guideXnone of that stuff worked02:41
rhorse_guideX: I think you may be using eol version....02:42
guideXit seems like 14.04 is a bad build02:42
Hydr0p0nX14.04 works great for me02:43
wh3ko19Yeah, always worked for me.02:43
guideXrhorse_: this is 14.04 I'm having this issue with02:43
towlieI used my VPN providers' bash script to install the network configurations for my VPN. When I go to VPN connections->configure VPN I see my VPN providers profiles but theyre not there under the VPM menu in the taskbar. How do I make them available to use ?02:43
wh3ko19Could be you have some weird thing going on with your permissions or some half-finished operation that screwed something up.02:44
Hydr0p0nXwhat's the output of uname -a  ?02:44
rhorse_guideX: try apt-get upgrade02:44
EOBeav14.04 is awesome, I plan on running it even after xenial gets released.02:45
towliedoes anyone know what to do02:45
rhorse_something is borked with his package management....02:45
Gallomimiatest02:45
rhorse_Is there a way to reinstall the entire package cache from scratch?02:47
wipeoutI've been working on getting my lte usb modem to bridge with the eth0 port on raspberry pi and have the eth0 port serve the public ip address of the lte modem out to my pfsense gateway as a fail over connection. I have a bridge setup currently that does get the class a public ip address from the lte modem but I am unable to get it to serve that to the ethernet conection. I just need some guidence if anyone has some.02:48
Gallomimiahey does anyone have any experience with an EDIMAX nano USB wifi N nic? i've got one and running 14.04 but the connectivity is horrible. any tips to improve?02:48
Gallomimiaand if i could stay connected for just a moment or two i might hear the answer ;)02:50
towliedoes anyone here use a VPN with ubuntu?02:51
wipeoutive used open vpn as a server and a client02:51
guideXhttp://pastebin.com/TcFVDUgA02:51
wipeoutdid you have a question about it02:52
towlieyes02:52
wipeout?02:52
towlieI configured my VPN correctly but theres a profile for eaach VPN location. so i have a list of 30 different servers. is it possible to reorder them02:52
guideXso what do u think reinstall02:53
wipeouti need a bit more info than that. what exactly are you trying to do02:54
towliei have a list of 30 VPNs under VPN connections02:54
wipeoutare you using cli or gui02:54
towlieI dont really want so many servers listed there because I dont use most of them and most likely wont02:54
towliegui02:55
Jordan_Uksft: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".02:55
Jordan_Uksft: If it asks to remove anything, post the output before deciding to allow it to or not.02:55
towlieJordan_U, I figured out how to add windows to the grub menu02:55
wipeoutwhat type of von are you connecting to02:56
Mitchell92Hello... I'm a computer networking student - I've used Linux in the past, started when I was like 10 or something with Mandrake. Without detail of Linux experience details, I am looking to see if anyone has some suggestions for hardware requirements and the such... I'm looking to purchase a thin laptop computer to run Linux on, I was always a suse fan, I've used ubuntu plenty, I am going to02:56
Mitchell92load ubuntu on it due to the wide amount of support available and the popularity. I'm looking at 2-in-1 laptops on Amazon as they mostly have SSD's and they are very thin and small, as far as suggested specs can someone let me know what they think?02:56
wipeout*vpn02:56
towliewipeout,  do you mean which one ?02:56
wipeoutno i mean what type02:56
towliei dunno02:56
wipeoutie openvpn, ipsec, pptp, etc02:56
Jordan_Utowlie: What problem were you having and how did you solve it?02:56
towliei think openvpn not sure02:56
wipeoutit makes a differance as you can just write an easy bash script with a menu option as to which server you want to connect to02:57
wipeouthow do you not know the vpn type your connecting to02:57
towlieJordan_U, i Talked to you about adding Windows 10 to the grub menu.. I fixed it by changing BIOS to support both UEFI and MBR and set the ubuntu disk as the default disk and OS probler located windows after that so I can now dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows'02:57
towliecause i dont02:57
towliei know they support openvpn02:58
wipeoutits kind of hard to help with limited info. did you get a config file with an rsa key in it?02:58
towliebut I ran a shell script and it did everything for me02:58
wipeoutare you accessing a public vpn?02:58
towlieoh I just checked and it uses openVPN02:59
towlieno02:59
towlieits one I pay for02:59
wipeoutokay are you comfertable with cli02:59
towlieyea02:59
rhorse_Mitchell92: 2GB ram.03:00
wipeouti would suggest looking at the manpage for openvpn in terminal and it will show you how to create connections via cli so that you can write the bash script and put the connections you want in the order you want03:00
towliei dont need to03:00
towliei have it set up in the GUI and it works perfectly03:00
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towliei guess ill just deal with it03:03
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towliewipeout, nm I figured out how to do what I wanted to do. I went into /etc/NetworkManager/myVPNProvider and moved all of the profiles except the ones that I want to show up in my VPN connection list to a sub directory03:10
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wipeoutokay, sorry I wasn't more help. I rearly use gui so I wasn't exactly sure what you were getting at. glad to see you got it worked out though03:11
towlieyea thanks03:11
towliemy vpn provider provides about 30 or so servers that you can connect to but I dont need tosee that many in the list of servers since I dont use most of them03:12
nicomachusPIA? they do that for me, too.03:14
towlienicomachus,  i found an easy way to clean up the list of servers03:15
towliebrb03:15
nicomachustowlie: I've already done mine.03:15
towlieok03:15
nicomachusI just change it manually in the connection settings whenever I want to switch servers.03:16
towliemy way is easier03:17
towliedo you use the GUI ?03:17
nicomachusrarely.03:17
guideXso I'm back, I had to go do something.. what else can I try? I've just installed ubuntu, and it seems like everything is asking me to install dependencies03:17
guideXfor instance http://pastebin.com/HLAmAQzZ03:17
guideXubuntu 14.0403:18
nicomachusguideX: any error messages during installation?03:18
guideXnope03:18
nicomachusguideX: are you on 32 or 64 bit?03:19
nicomachus(uname -m will tell you)03:19
guideXinux ENU44UBUNTU 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:19
guideXguide03:19
nicomachusis this a fresh install?03:19
guideXyeah03:19
nicomachusI'd run it again. Looks like something got a little wonky with apt.03:20
guideXsame thing, a bunch of "Depends"03:20
guideXDepends: libxfixes3:i386 but it is not going to be installed03:20
nicomachusI mean run the install again. Start over.03:21
guideXhrm ok03:21
nicomachusyou can either fight the dependency black hole until you figure out what's up with apt (which could take hours/days) or just reinstall and try again (which takes 30 mins).03:22
guideXhrm ok, going to install again, but I'm doing everything exactly the same so probably the same will happen03:23
nicomachusdouble check the md5 on your .iso to make sure it's all good, check hardware with a memtest if you think that could be a concern, just start eliminating variables.03:23
guideXwell I'm in a vm03:23
guideXbut yeah I'll check03:24
* nicomachus throws up hands03:24
nicomachuswell you didn't mention that.03:24
guideXis it possible this is a bad build or03:25
guideXcould be something in my vm software?03:25
nicomachusvbox or..?03:25
guideXvbox03:25
nicomachuswhat's the host OS?03:25
guideXwindows 1003:25
nicomachusVbox should be a simple install on that... did you set all the configurations right when setting up the VM?03:26
guideXwell I picked Ubuntu from the list, and it configured the rest for me, except I choose 1024 ram and 30 gb hdd03:27
guideXwell we'll see, maybe just borked install03:28
OneM_IndustriesHey, so I have an odd issue. I have 3 new jump dives that I am attempting to use between multiple computers, but for some reason, I cannot change the permissions on the drive even with the computer/user that created the partitions on them.03:28
Bima29900Hello ubuntu03:28
OneM_IndustriesI select the permission that I want (Everyone can do anything with these drives) and it promptly switches right back to the default config.03:29
Bima29900Halah gak eroh🔚03:29
nicomachusguideX: every time I have set up an Ubuntu VM inside of Windows, I had to enable a few different options and install the Guest Additions .iso. I'm not sure if it's the same on 10 or not. But that shouldn't give you those dependency errors either.03:29
Bima29900Ngomong bol cah03:29
nicomachusHi Bima29900. English please.03:30
guideXI did install the guest addons forgot about that03:30
Bima29900Hello03:30
guideXso I can get the better screen resolutions03:30
Bima29900Okay nicomachus03:30
guideXnothing started going wrong until I hit the terminal to install software, it seems like ubuntu just choose to not handle any dependencies03:30
guideXc ould be me, I don't know what I'm doing with linux so probably part of it03:31
Bima29900Hjs03:31
nicomachusguideX: well it sounds like apt didn't get set up correctly. sometimes that just happens with the installation, in my experience. doesn't hurt to try again.03:31
OneM_IndustriesAnyone have any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?03:33
nicomachusOneM_Industries: permissions aren't my forte, sorry.03:34
OneM_IndustriesOk.03:34
guideXhmm now things are installing03:41
guideXI wonder what happened03:41
nicomachusbuggy lil' bugs03:42
OneM_IndustriesSigh..03:44
OneM_IndustriesWell, looks like I have 64GB of unusable storage then. Nice.03:44
guideXwhat does this mean "Could not open ...deb. The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file"03:45
nicomachusdid you use sudo?03:46
guideXyeah03:46
guideXdid sudo gdebi <deb>03:47
nicomachuswhat is gdebi?03:47
guideXhrm I'm not sure, I'm following some instructions to install teamviewer here http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html03:48
guideXI guess it doesn't work03:48
guideXI guess gdebi installs deb files03:48
guideXor something03:48
nicomachusso does dpkg -i03:48
guideXrequested operation requires superuser privelege03:49
guideXwhen I do dpkg03:49
nicomachussudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb03:50
guideXyep03:50
nicomachusand it still says you need superuse privileges?03:50
guideXyeah03:51
nicomachuscan you paste the output of: grep -Po '^sudo.+:\K.*$' /etc/group03:52
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guideXhmm ok03:52
guideXwhen I do that, I just end up with >03:52
nicomachusit may take a moment.03:53
guideXit's like a prompt >03:53
guideXok03:53
guideXidk, I don't think that worked03:54
guideXit's like I can type and hit enter and stuff, and another > comes up03:54
nicomachusok, can you run: sudo apt-get update03:54
guideXhrm ok buncha stuff happening03:55
nicomachusbut not permissions error?03:55
guideXnope03:55
nicomachuswhat is the location of that .deb file you're trying to install?03:55
guideXlooks like /home03:55
nicomachuscan you paste the output of: ls -l /03:56
guideXhttp://pastebin.com/GTyDMrCR03:57
Rave1guideX,  so if you where following that tutorial why didnt you just use gdebi as stated03:58
nicomachushe did03:58
nicomachusperms look ok.03:58
guideXRave1: tried the gdebi command03:58
Rave1do you have 64 bit system?  are you sure you added the arch. properly first?04:00
Rave1gdebi isnt a command it is a GUI .deb installer04:00
guideXI don't understand the arch part, yes 64 bit vm04:00
guideXkeep in mind I don't understand typical linux lingo, I'm terrible at all things linux04:01
nicomachusRave1: that guide's a bit out of date, you don't need an arch anymore do you?04:01
TJ-arch = architure of the CPU and installed OS04:01
TJ-s/architure/architecture/04:01
Rave1for some packages you still need to add the arch.04:01
nicomachusTJ-! to the rescue.04:02
TJ-ta-da :)04:02
Rave1so I would suspect if that will not install it applies to that package04:02
TJ-I missed whatever the problem was; is their a pastebin reference?04:03
TJ-crikes, I need to wake up, spelling is all over the place s/their/there/04:03
guideXTJ-: I can't seem to figure out how to install teamviewer in ubuntu 14.04, having alot of problems04:03
nicomachusTJ-: goes back a bit. fresh install of 14.04 in vbox with W10 host, trying to install teamviewer but getting permissions issues.04:03
TJ-guideX: are you seeing a specific error?04:04
TJ-guideX: in these cases it's always best to use command-line package management in the terminal shell, since it gives us the opportunity to gather verbose and revealing debug info if necessary04:04
guideXhttp://pastebin.com/yB9hAHgh04:05
Rave1like I said gdebi isnt a command04:06
guideXoh ok04:06
Rave1right click on the .deb... open with gdebi  and follow the prompts04:07
guideXRave1: so this tutorial isn't correct then http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html04:07
guideXthat's where I got the command04:07
guideXhrm ok04:07
Rave1or get someone to teach you the cli way04:07
Rave1the tutorial is fine you just didnt understand04:08
guideXbut it says to put this "sudo gdebi teamviewer_linux.deb"04:08
guideXI mean, you just type it in the terminal right?04:08
Rave1it would be and should be  gksudo gdebi04:08
nicomachusstill easier to just use sudo dpkg -i...04:09
guideXhrm, I still get an error in the gui package manager "this package might be corrupted ... check permissions..."04:10
Rave1guideX,  for the last time  just so you understand  Gdebi is a GUI installer tool04:10
Rave1and I need to go have fun04:10
TJ-guideX: do "apt-get install pastebinit", then do "pastebinit <( ls -l *.deb )" and give us the URL04:11
Rave1so re down load it    be sure you add the 32 bit arch and try again04:11
guideXhrm okl04:12
TJ-nicomachus: agreed, but I see an apparent typo in the filename so it could be a false error, which should be "file not found"04:12
guideXhrm unable to locate package..04:12
guideXpastebinit04:13
Rave1BTW   ppas are just trouble waiting to happen in the end    my opinion I know but just wait..04:13
TJ-guideX: really, oh well, never mind, instead do "ls -l *.deb | nc termbin.com 9999"04:13
guideXhttp://termbin.com/va3k04:14
TJ-!info pastebinit trusty | guideX: are you *sure* you're on Ubuntu?04:14
ubottuguideX: are you *sure* you're on Ubuntu?: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-3 (trusty), package size 14 kB, installed size 164 kB04:14
guideXyeah it's ubuntu 14.0404:14
TJ-guideX: that info tells us/you that pastebinit is a core part of the Ubuntu system, on 14.0404:15
guideXI just installed around 20 minutes ago04:15
guideXhrm, I'm not sure04:15
* guideX doesn't know much about ubuntu04:15
TJ-guideX: strange. "apt-cache policy pastebinit" will report the available version(s) for a package, and their source04:16
guideXunable to locate package04:16
TJ-guideX: That suggests there is something very wrong on that install.04:17
guideXah hrm ok04:17
guideXwell could go for a third reinstall I guess04:17
TJ-guideX: what does "lsb_release -d" tell you?04:18
TJ-guideX: are you installing from an Ubuntu ISO image downloaded from ubuntu.com ?04:18
guideXDescription: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS04:18
guideXyeah04:18
TJ-guideX: does the virtual machine guest have network access?04:18
guideXyeah04:18
TJ-guideX: the problem could be the package management has not been able to fetch the package lists. Try "sudo apt-get update" to remedy that04:19
guideXhrm ok04:19
guideXhrm ok seems done, still no pastebin04:20
TJ-guideX: Ubuntu contains ~60,000 packages and 'apt' (Advanced Packaging Tool) is the Debian-derived archive package manager04:20
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TJ-guideX: This is what roughly I'd expect you to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663845/04:21
TJ-guideX: in your case it'd be "Installed: (none)" though of course04:21
TJ-guideX: but you'll see on line 9 it gives the location where the package would be fetched from04:22
guideXI see that04:22
guideXon mine it's different I think04:22
guideXunable to locate package it says04:22
TJ-guideX: could you pastebin the output you see; it might be at the root of your other issues04:22
guideXhttp://pastebin.com/3gQ71ddG04:24
TJ-guideX: you have a typo! it ends 'it' not 'init' :) "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"04:25
guideXoh whoops :/ ok one second04:25
TJ-guideX: hehehe04:25
guideXah ok pastebinIT installed04:26
guideXthis is why I need teamviewer, can't copy paste through the vbox window lol04:26
TJ-guideX: as regards TeamViewer though, your termbin showing the directory listing for the .deb file shows it is 60733 bytes in size; I've just downloaded from the teamviewer web-site and the resulting file is 53MB! "-rw-rw-r-- 1 tj tj 53774306 Apr  7 05:25 teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb"04:27
guideXoh hrm04:27
guideXlet me try to download it again04:27
guideXhrm, I download again using wget, but it's the same size.. I'll try to download off their site04:28
witesharki have some questions bout system7604:29
TJ-guideX: where *were* you downloading it from? It's never a good idea to use anything but the publishers trusted sites.04:29
guideXI was using the tutorial command wget download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb04:30
guideXhttp://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html04:30
zanpksola04:31
TJ-guideX: right. Those are terrible and misleading instructions. Your download was actually the HTML file at the URL they give04:31
guideXah makes sense04:31
guideXI didn't even look, I actually have no idea the .deb file is supposed to be, thoguht maybe it's a config file, or pointer or something04:32
TJ-guideX: I'm not impressed by TeamViewer; they do not publish the checksum/cryptographic hash of their downloadable files so you can verify they are uncorrupted, which is standard practice in the Linux world for pre-packaged binaries especially04:32
guideXI think it's going to work now lol04:32
TJ-guideX: yes, not installing HTML it should do :P04:33
guideXTJ-: hrm I'm not sure how it's supposed to work in ubuntu.. I didn't have any issues doign it in fedora, but then, I couldn't get discourse working in fedora so moving to ubuntu now04:33
TJ-guideX: FYI: teamviewer do provide some good command-line notes for installing on various GNU/Linux distros at https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx#other04:33
guideXin fedora, it's a dnf install (if I recall)04:33
guideXah ok cool04:33
guideXi'll check04:33
zanpksbrasil04:34
guideXwell thanks tj-, I think it's installing now.. yeah teamviewer should offer an easier to install method04:34
guideXI think it's ackward because, teamviewer cannot offer the source code, resulting in an ackward download experience in linux04:35
guideXdownload/install04:35
TJ-well, they *could* ... plenty of businesses do very well in the open source world :)04:35
* guideX is much more used to windows installers to be honest, these package managers are a bit outside my realm04:35
guideXok cool well I think it worked (teamviewer)04:36
guideXdocker and discourse should be a breeze ...04:36
TJ-guideX: package management is the best thing - central trusted archives of curated software, with maintainers who ensure it meets all the policies and technical requirements of the distro, and everything cryptographically signed to ensure no tampering or corruption04:36
witesharkcan anyone suggest what is typical with Unity/X GUI freeze and loss of control?04:37
rooteheheheheh04:38
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TJ-guideX: Even Microsoft has now added Linux syscall support so Ubuntu userspace, and bash shell, can be run on Windows. That is to appeal to serious sys-admins that hate trying to support and maintain systems via GUIs (very unprofessional, unscalable)04:38
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guideXTJ-: I'm pretty excited to see the new linux subsystem.. maybe it'll be like the old nt4 subsystem04:41
guideXused to be there for unix support04:42
guideXwonder if they just like re-activated some old dormant code, likely not :)04:42
TJ-guideX: much better than the old SUS NT 4 layer; this is full binary compatibility (the executables are the same ones you'll ron on an Intel/AMD based Linux PC, not recompiled for Windows)04:42
TJ-s/ron/run/04:43
TJ-guideX: the new Windows Linux syscall compatibility layer means almost all Linux tools that use the GNU libc standard library will run (with some caveats for specialised tooling).04:44
guideXhonestly I'm hopeing that they'll do something in .net to support building linux gui programs in windows, and then can be tested in windows, and distribute for linux04:45
baizon!offtopic04:45
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:45
guideXthat'd be neat04:45
TJ-baizon: hardly off-topic, since Canonical/Ubuntu is making a big push to be *the* GNU userspace on Windows, and Microsoft have just released the functionality in build 14316 out to testers04:47
Jordan_UTJ-: It is still alpha/beta and not supported here as of today. Further discussion should go in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss.04:48
guideXwell it's time for food, thanks again TJ- now I can finish my docker/discourse setup maybe tonight04:51
guideXis there some way to disable the animations?04:54
guideXthey're really slow in vbox04:54
baizonguideX: you can install compizconfig-settings-manager and then disable them there04:56
guideXok thanks04:58
guideXi'll try that04:59
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OneM_IndustriesRight, so I am having an odd issue. I have a jumpdrive formatted to NTFS on ubuntu, that if I plug it into any other machine, then try to re-mount it, it will only mount read-only. Any ideas?05:16
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: can you gksu nautilus and access the drive correctly?05:17
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OneM_IndustriesEr, I ran that command, and it asked for my password then did nothing.05:19
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: you have gksu installed?05:19
OneM_IndustriesYes, I do.05:20
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lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: got nautilus also?05:21
OneM_IndustriesYep.05:21
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: wich ubuntu version is this05:21
OneM_Industries14.04.05:21
lotuspsychjeweird05:21
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: up to date to latest 14.04.4?05:22
OneM_IndustriesWell, I can go scripts> open as root instead, if you want.05:22
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: no, gksu nautilus should work..05:23
stacy-can somebody here please help me with opencart acess..i am having problems loggin into my administrator page05:23
OneM_IndustriesYes, it is up to date.05:23
Jordan_UOneM_Industries: Did you make sure to always unmount the drive properly before removing it?05:23
OneM_IndustriesYes.05:23
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: wich Os does the external hd contain, passworded? or just data?05:24
OneM_IndustriesData.05:25
OneM_IndustriesNo password.05:25
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OneM_IndustriesOk, looks like open as root worked...odd..05:25
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: can you pastebin us the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog after you plug the hd?05:26
stacy-lotuspyschje.. can you please help on a login problem on opencart?05:26
lotuspsychjestacy-: sorry never used opencart myself05:26
lotuspsychjestacy-: where did you get this package05:26
OneM_Industrieshttp://pastebin.com/RyWBpY5y05:27
stacy-lotspsychje.. its a cms05:28
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: hmm, kernel: [1479353.708781] usb 8-3.2: USB disconnect, device number 4605:28
kronok05:30
kronhi05:30
kronchat05:30
stacy-hi kron05:32
lotuspsychjestacy-: can this help? https://chubbable.com/how-to-install-opencart-2-0-on-ubuntu-14-vps05:43
OneM_Industrieslotuspsychje: hey, any ideas on the case of the wonky flash drives?05:49
torreyhi05:50
OneM_IndustriesHello!05:50
torreynice to meet you!05:50
OneM_IndustriesGood to meet you too!05:51
lotuspsychjeOneM_Industries: you could test few things out, create another user test from there, move the data to somwhere else and reformat it to ntfs with gparted,..05:51
torreyhi05:55
somsiptorrey: do you have a support question?05:56
torreyNo ; thanks  , I'm trying to use this05:57
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stacy-after i type sudo in my ubuntu it its asking for auth username and password.. this has never happened before06:00
stacy-NV75S:~/Desktop/openvpnlist$ sudo openvpn --config client.ovpn06:00
stacy-Enter Auth Username:06:00
Jordan_Ustacy-: That's openvpn asking you, not sudo.06:02
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maxvihi! I use cinnamon on ubuntu and try to change cursor theme, I changed it in themes, /usr/share..../index.theme, .icons/.../index.theme, and replace all DMZ-White to DMZ-Black via dconf-editor but when I run chromium I get DMZ-White cursor? What I need to change to fix this?06:15
compaq_hello everybody I am new here and I'd like to learn DB tools06:21
compaq_how can suggest me some books, tips, ...06:21
ladyTalusOnly 3 weeks remaining.06:22
ladyTalusUbuntu LTS 16 is coming very soon.06:22
lotuspsychjeladyTalus: join #ubuntu+1 plz :p06:22
cansurfer2Have a question about kernels for LTS 14.04.4  . I have one server that updated to 4.2.0-35 , and another nearly identical that stays at 4.2.0-34 for some reason. Been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why.06:23
liqiuyuanhello06:24
Jordan_Ucansurfer2: Both using the same apt mirrors? Both have had "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" run recently?06:24
liqiuyuan有人吗?06:24
cansurfer2Yep. I verified the sources.list and ran all of that.06:24
lotuspsychje!cn | liqiuyuan06:25
ubottuliqiuyuan: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw06:25
shadow_itmanany one know how to get grub to play nicely with windows bootloader and bitlocker?06:25
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: What problem are you having specifically?06:25
shadow_itmanJordan_U: I'm about to install ubuntu with LUKS and need to know how to configure the boot partition06:26
shadow_itmanwhere to put it...06:27
shadow_itmanprobably making it harder than it needs to be06:27
cansurfer2Well. The one that was updated to -35 was using ca.archive.ubuntu.com. But when I edited the sources.list in the one stuck at -34 to match, still didn't upgrade kernel.06:27
Seveasshadow_itman: iirc bitlocker wants to use its own bootloader and your windows system will become unusable if you put grub there06:27
shadow_itmanSeveas: then how would i boot into linux?06:28
Seveasif that is indeed true, best thing to do would be to use two separate physical harddrives, put ubuntu (and grub) on the second one, and choose your boot device in the bios06:28
Seveasshadow_itman: excellent question. No idea I'm afraid. Last time I touched a setup like that is about 8 years ago i think :)06:29
shadow_itmanthis seemed to have worked06:29
shadow_itmanhttp://linuxtutorialscratchpad.blogspot.com/06:29
shadow_itmanbut it doesn't really explain why it works06:29
shadow_itmanalso this http://techblog.mastbroek.com/all-articles/dualboot-encrypted-windows-and-ubuntu/5/06:30
MrPotatohi.i deleted ubuntu's boot loader but still i have my ubuntu.what to do?i just have ubuntu mini06:31
shadow_itmanthat second one is with truecrypt though which has its own boot loader06:31
Seveasshadow_itman: the ubuntu part of that tutorial is heavily outdated. he gui installer supports lvm/luks these days06:31
hateball!fixgrub | MrPotato06:32
ubottuMrPotato: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:32
shadow_itmanSeveas: ya but it doesn't let you use LUKS full disc if windows is already installed06:32
shadow_itmanyou have to create those encrypted luks volumes manually06:32
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MrPotatohateball, after installing tinycore not windows06:33
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Do not use truecrypt.06:37
shadow_itmanim not06:37
shadow_itmani tried veracrypt but had partition issues06:38
shadow_itmanim using bitlocker06:38
shadow_itmanfor windows 1006:38
shadow_itmanand luks for linux06:38
shadow_itmani'm just confused about how its going to boot06:38
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: What are you confused about specifically? Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?06:39
shadow_itmanbios06:39
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  bios06:39
shadow_itmani'm using 1 HDD06:40
shadow_itmantrying to dual boot06:40
shadow_itmansomehow the bitlocker bootloader needs to see linux06:40
shadow_itmanand i need to have an option06:40
shadow_itmanof which to boot into06:40
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: No, grub just needs to be able to chainload Windows' bootloader.06:40
cansurfer2Might the kernel difference be because on the one server I upraded to 14.04.4 with sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily06:42
cansurfer2And on the other one, it was installed from a more recent CDROM ISO?06:42
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Windows normally has its actual bootloader in the pbr and embedding area in the filesystem of the "system" partition (not "C:") and what's in the MBR is just a simple "boot manager" that chainloads whatever primary partition is marked "active". I don't expect bitlocker to change any of that.06:42
RedbeardtIf I have a 24gb SSD and a 256 gb SSD, what is my optimal partition configuration? :306:43
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  thanks for explaining that.  this info is hard to come by in my searches!06:43
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: ubuntu default partition will do fine06:44
shadow_itmanJordan_U: the documentation i'm following used UEFI so i'm not sure what that changes if anything06:45
RedbeardtWhen I tried installing, it wanted to put everything on the 256gb06:45
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: use the 24gig for main boot Os and the 256 for data?06:45
Redbeardtso I figured it'd make more sense to use the 24gb as a swap... or something? I'm new to this06:45
shadow_itmanin terms of where I put the linux /boot partition06:45
ISJ ./home on the 256?06:45
RedbeardtHmm ok :306:46
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RedbeardtI'm not sure about the importance of a sizeable swap partition with 8gbram06:46
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: wich brand are the ssd's?06:46
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RedbeardtThe small one is a 'cache' SSD that came with the laptop and I have no idea what brand it is. The 256 one, I also don't know because I'm an idiot and forgot to ask the guys I got the laptop from to put in a specific quality brand.06:47
RedbeardtSo it's probably something awful06:47
Redbeardtand I don't know the linux commands to check haha06:47
hateballRedbeardt: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda06:48
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hateballRedbeardt: or whatever device06:48
RedbeardtI'm running LiveCD atm.. Terminal sure is being lazy to start06:48
RedbeardtIll type that in if it decides to pop up06:49
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda106:49
Redbeardtok so sda1 must be showing up as the usb drive im running livecd off06:51
Redbeardtsince it shows 1tb06:52
RedbeardtI tried sdb and got TS256GSSD360S as the model number06:52
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: might be a transcend06:52
Redbeardtthats the 256gb06:52
Redbeardtand this is the 24gb KINGSTON RBU-SMSM151S324GD06:52
Redbeardt.. is that good? ;D06:53
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: ok well as your 24gig is rather small for data, i would go for main ubuntu Os on that one06:53
Redbeardtok06:53
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: and use the 256 for data, fast data exchange between both06:53
Redbeardtwhat's this about swap partitions though?06:54
Redbeardtdoes it matter?06:54
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: swap will be created in ubuntu setup, default layout will do fine06:54
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: after install you can tweak stuff, like swappiness to 1006:54
RedbeardtIs that only if I do the .. logical.. voluming.. option?06:55
Redbeardtduring setup?06:55
RedbeardtIt said that if I click that I can edit partitions freely later06:55
lotuspsychje!lvm | Redbeardt06:55
ubottuRedbeardt: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:55
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Redbeardtlogical volume management eh06:56
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: i dont use lvm myself06:56
RedbeardtI kind of don't want to either; seems like a level of abstraction I wouldn't need if I knew better what I was doing06:57
shadow_itmanhere goes nothing...06:57
lotuspsychjeshadow_itman: re-ask your issue once in a while, all in one line..others might help06:57
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: dont make it too hard on yourself, regular install does fine in most cases06:58
Redbeardtsure but.. I want to learn ;)06:58
RedbeardtThe trouble I've been having with my wifi has been pretty educational in itself06:59
RedbeardtI'm a guy who has used windows for 20 years and this is my first major foray into linux06:59
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: wich ubuntu version are you choosing to install?06:59
Redbeardtthe latest LTS one07:00
Redbeardt14.04 I thnk it was?07:00
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: ok, in 2 weeks 16.04 comes out also if that might interest you07:00
shadow_itmani need grub to be able to chainload windows bootloader. both win10 and ubuntu are on the same HDD and both encrypted(not sure the relevance)07:00
Redbeardtoh07:00
RedbeardtPeople seemed to think it would be wise to use an LTS version07:01
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: but you will be able to upgrade from 14.04 on april 2107:01
Redbeardtbut I'm not sure how much I care hehe07:01
Redbeardtaha07:01
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: thats the users choice, wich version you choose07:01
Redbeardti havent really looked at the differences07:02
lotuspsychje!lts | Redbeardt07:02
ubottuRedbeardt: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)07:02
Redbeardtalthough due to the trouble i've had with my wifi, maybe a later version would have been wise07:02
RedbeardtTrusty hehe07:02
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: wich wifi chipset07:02
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shadow_itmando i need to set the bootable flag 'on' for the /boot partition?07:03
RedbeardtIntel AC 726507:03
hateballRedbeardt: yes, you'll want a newer kernel for that07:04
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: that should work, its also advised to use cable internet + updates enabled during ubuntu setup07:04
Redbeardtyea I'm cabled now07:04
Redbeardtoh07:04
Redbeardtif you don't mind me asking, how'd you deduce that hateball?07:05
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: perhaps 15.10 or 16.04 as hateball suggests07:05
hateballRedbeardt: I have the same chipset07:05
hateballwell, 726007:05
Redbeardtoh haha07:05
hateballRedbeardt: you can try a later kernel by "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial"07:05
hateballRedbeardt: that grabs the kernel from 16.04 (4.4) and you can choose between kernels in the grub menu at boot if need be07:06
Redbeardtbut I wouldn't want to run that from the LiveCD yea?07:07
Redbeardthmm the ubuntu setup said it failed to mount a filesystem on sda..07:09
Redbeardtweird07:09
RedbeardtI tried to installto sdc!07:09
hateballRedbeardt: No, you'd want to install a new kernel to an installed system07:10
Redbeardtok07:10
Redbeardtthanks07:10
hateballIt's not super useful installing it to RAM and then rebooting, see07:10
Redbeardthahaha07:10
Redbeardtindeed07:10
RedbeardtI'm installing! :O07:14
RedbeardtPraise the Sun!07:14
stylesI recently installed Ubuntu 15.10 and am using the fglrx-updates driver with microcode firmware for AMD CPUs. I'm having an issue where Chrome and other apps that render via a GPU seem to be bugging out. Games never have issues though.07:15
RedbeardtInstaller taking its sweet time partitioning D:07:17
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ZaitzevHi guys. How do I use xrandr to change the refresh rate of just one or two monitors (DVI), when I'm on a 3 monitor setup? xrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664692/07:22
Light_How is the beta looking is it looking like the LTS release will be good or bad?07:25
guideXI have this weird problem, I guess it's not that important, but I turned on auto hide for the ubuntu start menu, and it's gone07:25
guideXit doesn't come up if I move my mouse over where it used to be07:25
YOYO9876Hi all07:26
solimanhi07:26
guideXso now I just can't get to anything07:26
solimanwhat about you07:26
ZaitzevguideX: It's not gone, just "press" your mouse toward the edge07:26
YOYO9876(soliman glad to see U ;)07:26
Redbeardti think my installer is unhappy. It has been partitioning a 24gb drive for 10 minutes07:26
guideXZaitzen: I mean, I move my mouse over there but the thing doesn't come up07:26
guideXthe thing with the icons07:26
guideXon the left07:27
ZaitzevguideX: I've noticed the same weird behavior when I tried it, but by moving and "pressing" the mouse to the edge it shows up. You'll see a small shadow when you move it07:27
guideXI wonder if it's something more wrong, i'll try to take a screenshot to describe what I'm seeing07:28
ZaitzevguideX: When I move the mouse to the edge, I see a shade. I keep pushing the mouse into the edge and the shade darkens, and finally it opens the launcher. This sensitivity can be tweaked in Appearance settings.07:29
hateball!ubuntu+1 | Light_07:29
ubottuLight_: Xenial Xerus is the codename for Ubuntu 16.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+107:29
shadow_itmanJordan_U: so when the installer asks me where to install grub.... any idea where i should tell it?07:30
ZaitzevguideX: From "you gotta push hard" Low, to "barely touching the edge" High07:30
shadow_itmanto be chainloaded behind bitlocker?07:30
guideXhttp://skywirenews.com/ubuntuglitch.jpg07:32
guideXif I hit the windows key that's all that comes up07:32
guideXthen I can type like terminal and there's no results07:32
guideXsomething screwed up eh?07:32
ZaitzevYeah the launcher doesn't open when you press the Windows key07:33
guideXlike check this out http://skywirenews.com/ubuntuglitch2.jpg07:34
guideXthe terminal doesn't even come up07:34
ZaitzevWhat you have open is a command dash thing (?) that I never use, and it is supposed to open by pressing the Alt key07:36
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guideXwhen I hit alt the same thing comes up07:36
ZaitzevThe Windows key is supposed to open the Unity search window thingamajig (I'm confused by the naming of these various bits) :p07:36
Zaitzevbut you're on a VM, might be that it doesn't send the correct key from the host then07:37
Zaitzevnvm, Teamviewer is it?07:37
guideXyeah I'm using team viewer07:37
Light_Is it just me or does 12.04 work better then 14.04?07:37
somsipLight_: what does "better" mean to you?07:38
Light_less buggy07:38
guideXI was really fond of 8.04 if we wanna talk about old versions07:38
ZaitzevguideX: It might be that teamviewer doesn't send the keys correctly, try looking in settings after something like "Send key combinations" or similar07:38
somsipLight_: just you07:38
guideXZaitzev: ah ok let me try that07:38
somsipLight_: be specific if you have a support issue. Maybe it's a known thing07:38
Light_well transmission didn't seem to work with 14.04 like it did seamlessly in 12.0407:39
guideXis there like a run command in ubuntu I can get to07:40
ZaitzevI run transmission totally fine on my 14.04 laptop07:40
Light_guideX, yes I heard good things about that release07:40
ZaitzevguideX: what do you mean?07:40
ZaitzevguideX: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal07:40
guideXah ok that works07:40
guideXwhew...07:40
guideXso maybe I can turn off the auto hide setting somewhere from the terminal07:41
somsipLight_: you have one app that you have a problem with and you draw the conclusion that the whole release is buggy :-/ I'm using trasmission on 14.04 with no problems, so what is the specific bug07:41
guideXto get back the thing on the left07:41
Light_I forget but I went back to 12.0407:42
guideXanywhere I can vi or gedit my way to turning the autohide off07:42
ZaitzevguideX: what Ubuntu version is it?07:42
somsipLight_: so what is your aim in coming here?07:42
Light_actually seems like ubuntu starting to go bad when the switch to unity happened07:42
guideXZaitzev: 14.0407:42
ZaitzevguideX: Type in terminal: unity-control-center07:42
somsipLight_: if you're after a general chat, or complain, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is for support only07:43
ZaitzevguideX: Then go to Appearance and the Behavior tab07:43
Light_somsip I'm interested in the new LTS release but no one is in there07:43
guideXZaitzev: thanks07:43
guideXannnd it's back...07:44
guideXwoa man someone should fix that lol07:44
Holland这是什么??07:44
guideXit's scary to loose the icons thingy on the left07:44
Hollandlol???07:44
somsip!zh | Holland07:45
ubottuHolland: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:45
n-iCe!pastebin07:59
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:59
n-iCeHello, can anyone help me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664938/07:59
n-iCeIt happens when I try to use my laptop volume slide/touchpad in the keyboard.07:59
EriC^^n-iCe: try sudo modprobe psmouse resync_time=1008:00
BusyElfHello ?? I have a problem.  and no it's not personal.. re Ubuntu Server08:01
somsip!help | BusyElf08:01
ubottuBusyElf: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:01
n-iCeEriC^^, done, now?08:01
BusyElfOk I have a programme running in Ubuntu, and for some reason it shuts down at 02:32 -ish every night..  ther's nothing in crontab to make it do so. .. any ideas?08:02
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n-iCeEriC^^, keeps happening, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664967/08:03
somsipBusyElf: check /var/log/syslog08:03
EriC^^n-iCe: try sudo modprobe -r psmouse , then sudo modprobe psmouse08:03
BusyElfermm it's a headless server.08:04
somsipBusyElf: why should that make a difference?08:04
BusyElfno psmouse connected08:04
n-iCeEriC^^, [  593.849891] input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input59908:04
somsipBusyElf: why do you need a mouse? How do you normaly admin this server?08:05
n-iCeEriC^^, and is not happening anymore!08:05
BusyElfSSH into it08:05
n-iCeEriC^^, is this permanent?!08:05
somsipBusyElf: so, SSH into it. Why is the mouse an issue?08:06
brsc2909_d08:06
EriC^^n-iCe: i dont think so08:06
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Install grub's boot sector to the mbr, so that grub can chainload Windows' bootloader.08:06
BusyElfok forget the mouse, still have the problem08:07
somsipBusyElf: my recommendation to check syslog still stands08:07
shadow_itmanJordan_U: wow, i was going to follow the directions and install it to the /boot partition that i created08:08
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  what will the /boot parition do if i dont install grub to it?> just sit there?08:08
BusyElfI've checked the programme logs. there's nothing to suggest it was ordered to shut down.08:08
somsipBusyElf: what do you mean by "programme logs". Have you checked system logs? Which ones?08:09
TAFB2"Your window manager does not support the show desktop button or you are not running a window manager". I'm missing the buttons along the top of gnome or whatever. It's Ubuntu VPS server. I'm using tightvnc :) Any help?08:09
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: If you have a TPM though, you may need to keep Windows' MBR code intact.08:09
n-iCeEriC^^, look08:09
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  this is what im following http://techblog.mastbroek.com/all-articles/dualboot-encrypted-windows-and-ubuntu/5/08:09
n-iCeEriC^^, synclient TouchpadOff=1;08:09
BusyElfthe only thing I can think of that might have some impact is a backup from another server onto the affected one.08:09
n-iCeseems to fix it too08:09
shadow_itmanJordan_U: i'm not using TPM but the client i'm doing this for next week likely will be08:10
somsipBusyElf: sometimes best not to think, but to try to establish facts. But you seem to be ignoring me, so best of luck and I'm out08:10
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  it would be nice to be prepared for both scenerios08:10
BusyElfFine!08:10
BusyElfme too08:10
EriC^^n-iCe: yes, i read =0 makes it turn on08:11
EriC^^n-iCe: https://chakraos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10119&p=208:11
shadow_itmanJordan_U: if i install grub to the wrong place? can i make changes using bcdedit  or another utility later to fix the issue?08:11
shadow_itmanthis command line install just took SO long. i would hate to have to do it again08:11
BlueProtomanHelp!  I can't log in graphically!  It's just a blank screen; I *am* able to log in via a TTY, though (I'm writing this on irssi).  I'm on Ubuntu 15.10.  What do I do?08:12
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shadow_itmanJordan_U:  the grub prompt says "The following operating systems have been detected on this computer: Windows vista(loader)08:13
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  if all of your operating systems are listed above, then it should be safe to install the boot loader to the master boot record of your first drive08:13
shadow_itmaninstall the grub boot loader to the master boot record?08:13
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: If you don't have a TPM, or aren't using it, then it's all relatively easy to fix (if you know how). I haven't dealt with TPMs enough and I don't know what the best course of action is for that.08:13
n-iCeEriC^^, rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse , is ok?08:13
EriC^^BlueProtoman: does the guest account work?08:14
EriC^^n-iCe: yeah, modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse is better though08:14
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  can you hang tight while i install it to the MBR?08:14
shadow_itmanif it breaks i need to know how to fix it.  would be greatly appreciated. im pretty desperate08:15
EriC^^n-iCe: maybe you can make a script for it and use xbindkeys to make a shortcut on the keyboard for it08:15
n-iCedone EriC^^08:15
n-iCeEriC^^, no no I don't care about make it work at all, the problem is it created some issues in the muse cursos08:15
n-iCerebooting08:15
n-iCethanks08:15
EriC^^ok08:15
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: I'll be here for 20 minutes.08:16
shadow_itmanwelp here it goes08:17
dr_feelgoodJust left the bar, about to start drinking.. funny thing is, no matter how many idiot or how intelligent I may get, I'm still always understood.08:17
dr_feelgoodAlso, if you can't feel compliance, it didn't happen.08:17
dr_feelgood~ Hunter08:17
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  'missing operating system'08:18
shadow_itmanyikes08:18
n-iCeEriC^^, did not work08:18
n-iCeEriC^^, did not work08:18
EriC^^what do you mean?08:18
n-iCeEriC^^, if I press the bar, the problems are still there08:19
n-iCemaybe was not executed at boot?08:19
n-iCeI added what you said to rc.local08:19
n-iCe<n-iCe> maybe was not executed at boot?08:19
n-iCe<n-iCe> I added what you said to rc.local08:19
EriC^^it's just for 1 time08:19
EriC^^oh, that's in the thread08:19
n-iCeyeah, but that one time, makes it work till I reboot08:19
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Please boot from an Ubuntu liveCD/USB (not the server/minimal installer), run https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.08:19
EriC^^n-iCe: i'd do it another way without rc.local08:20
n-iCeEriC^^, ok08:20
EriC^^let me get some coffee and i'll brb08:20
shadow_itmanJordan_U: ok08:22
chopperhi08:26
n-iCeEriC^^, ok I think I got it, gonna reboot08:27
n-iCebrb08:27
shadow_itmanJordan_U: sorry its taking so long... the usb drive is almost ready08:27
n-iCeEriC^^, nothing, is not working08:30
EriC^^ok08:30
n-iCeEriC^^, what I think I have to do, is to make a script, that run after few seconds of login, and another to run the second command more few seconds later08:31
n-iCeEriC^^, what do you think?08:31
EriC^^n-iCe: yes sounds good08:31
n-iCewhere would you add them?08:32
EriC^^i guess after x logs in08:32
EriC^^there's the ~/.config/autostart08:32
Kartagisikonia: do you remember that you asked me yesterday if grub detects hfs filesystems?08:33
n-iCecd ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart08:33
EriC^^you need to add modprobe to sudoers with NOPASSWD so the script can run08:33
n-iCeooh08:33
n-iCemaybe that's my error?08:33
EriC^^could be08:33
n-iCeEriC^^, %wheel ALL=/sbin/modprobe NOPASSWD: ALL08:33
Kartagisgrub doesn't recognise my MacOS installation on another HDD. what to do?08:34
EriC^^%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe08:34
EriC^^wait, why wheel?08:34
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Kartagiss/wheel/sudo,08:34
Kartagiss/wheel/sudo08:34
EriC^^yes use sudo08:34
n-iCe%sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprob08:35
n-iCesounds good to you?08:35
Kartagisexcept, it is modprobe, not modprob08:36
n-iCeKartagis, done, thanks.08:36
Kartagisnp08:36
Jordan_UKartagis: Hackintosh or legitimate Apple hardware?08:36
KartagisJordan_U: hackintosh08:37
Jordan_UKartagis: Then I can't help you.08:37
KartagisJordan_U: I have another at home, and it is recognised by grub08:37
KartagisJordan_U: moral issues or you don't know?08:37
Kartagisjust asking, not judging08:38
Jordan_UKartagis: I don't know and this channel doesn't support hackintosh.08:38
n-iCeEriC^^, and now08:38
EriC^^n-iCe: try to run the script manually from the terminal08:38
KartagisI'm asking about grubi not hackintosh08:38
EriC^^type sudo -k , then try it08:38
n-iCeEriC^^, ok, no errors, let me reboot08:39
shadow_itmanJordan_U: when i try to run the script it tells me to install a new version of mawk08:40
shadow_itmanwow08:40
n-iCeok EriC^^ ok, it ran08:41
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: I think you can just install gawk instead.08:41
n-iCeEriC^^, but, the mouse stopped to work, was not enabled it back08:41
EriC^^n-iCe: nice08:41
EriC^^n-iCe: it was in ~/.config/autostart?08:42
shadow_itmanJordan_U: that worked08:42
shadow_itmanmaking pastebin now08:42
n-iCeoh my bad08:43
Light_Can rythmbox play .m4a files?08:43
n-iCeEriC^^, thanks, working great now :)08:46
n-iCeNo more issues with that volume panel, that's great, thanks EriC^^08:46
EriC^^great :) no problem08:46
shadow_ITMANNJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15665309/08:46
shadow_ITMANNJordan_U:  that isn't complete... dangit08:46
Kartagiswho can help me with grub not recognising MacOS?08:46
RedbeardtAnyone know why Ubuntu installer would be saying this "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed."08:46
Redbeardt?08:46
shadow_ITMANNJordan_U:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15665332/08:47
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  that is complete... sorry man08:47
syahdeini1st  time using IRC08:48
n-iCesyahdeini, welcome08:48
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: It looks like you didn't actually have the installer install grub to the mbr.08:48
shadow_itmanJordan_U: it may appear that way but thats the option i selected08:49
Bonn333syahdeini: Welcome to ubuntu IRC channel ;)08:49
shadow_itmanduring config i did make a /boot partition that included the 'boot flag'08:49
shadow_itmannot sure if that matters08:49
sybaritenHello, i have this issue which i don't know at all how to attack. I have a script or program that is supposed to show a "splash screen" in ascii when i ssh into my machine, and show some general info about the machine. It's called Screenfetch. That script is now somehow broken, so that it shows a lot of "/usr/bin/screenfetch: line 4157: 3: Bad file descriptor" whenever i log into the machine....08:49
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: And it also looks like you changed the "active" flag so that sda3 is active instead of sda2.08:50
sybaritenany ideas what to look at first? I cant even remember how i installed it... (whether its apt-get or manually)08:50
EriC^^!info screenfetch08:50
ubottuscreenfetch (source: screenfetch): Bash Screenshot Information Tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.0-1 (wily), package size 39 kB, installed size 206 kB08:50
EriC^^sybariten: try apt-cache policy screenfetch08:50
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Did you change the "active" (sometimes called "boot") flag in your partition table?08:51
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  yes, when i created the /boot partition gave it the 'boot flag'08:51
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: That is why you currently can't boot.08:52
sybaritenEriC^^: thanks.. i get a little list. it says "Installed: 3.7.0-1~trusty"08:52
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  any recourse for this?08:52
EriC^^sybariten: ok, maybe it's a known bug?08:52
sybaritenEriC^^: hmmm maybe? What did we check with the policy command?08:53
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: If you change the "boot flag" back to sda2, then Windows will boot. Or you can install grub and you'll be able to boot both OSs.08:53
EriC^^sybariten: if it's installed via apt-get08:54
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  how can i change the boot flag back to sda 2? and/or install grub08:54
sybaritenok. Good, we got that sorted out then. I think i'll try and apt-get remove it, apt-get update and apt-get install it just for the sake of it and see what happens08:54
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  sorry man, i'm a noob and i have a crazy deadline for this to be working at noon tomorrow08:54
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: To install grub: "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".08:55
shadow_itmansaid installation finished. no error reported08:57
shadow_itmani guess i will try to reboot?08:57
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Great. Reboot.08:57
shadow_itmanJordan_U: it gives me grub menu instead of Windows... i thought bitlocker would require windows loader?08:58
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shadow_itmanJordan_U: it works nonetheless... thanks for sticking around and helping me man!09:00
shadow_itmani can work out the kinks tomorrow if needed09:00
shadow_itmanyou the man!09:00
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Your Ubuntu installation isn't within the bitlocker encryption. "Full disk" encryption is usually a misnomer, and it's just a single partition that is encrypted.09:00
Jordan_Ushadow_itman: You're welcome.09:01
shadow_itmanJordan_U:  would it have been possible to use the windows boot menu and have windows be the default after time expires?09:01
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Jordan_Ushadow_itman: Yes, but it's a much more difficult and fragile configuration. Instead you should just make Windows the default grub entry if you want to boot Windows by default.09:02
EriC^^windows can chainload grub in legacy mode?09:03
EriC^^or that effect can be achieved from the windows bootloader?09:03
Jordan_UEriC^^: Yes, but please forget that I ever told you that because it's a terrible idea.09:03
EriC^^lol :D09:03
sybaritenreinstalling screenfetch via apt-get...09:06
sudishthClient error: `HEAD http://replicator:replicator@mysite.url/relaxed/default` resulted in a `404 Not Found` response:09:08
sgbirchWhere is the best place to get a docker container with ubuntu 16.04? ubuntu:16.04 has no networking installed09:17
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Ben64sgbirch: 16.04 isn't out yet, try asking in #ubuntu+109:18
sgbirchok .. thank you09:18
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Elon_MuSkCan I use ubuntu from a usb drive. Without files being deleted after shutdown?09:37
aoteaBeen trying in ubuntu-server but guess I'll throw it here also; so I'm trying to implement key-based ssh login to my server, created key pair, added pubkey to authorized_keys on server, last auth.log shows "public key was accepted" but soon I set "PasswordAuthentication no" in sshd_config it stops accepting my public key and ofc won't prompt for password either.09:38
aoteaElon_MuSk: yes, given enough space on the stick it is possible09:38
Elon_MuSkaotea: how? Install on usb drive. Boot with usb drive. But when I reboot files are gone09:39
aoteaElon_MuSk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:39
Elon_MuSkaotea: ok thanx09:40
mike_papaWhat's a correct way to install own, private package providing files from official one? In my case it's qemu. Official repo has 2.3, and I need 2.5. So I followed very nice article (http://www.atrixnet.com/compile-qemu-from-source-and-make-a-debian-package-with-checkinstall/#comment-23813) and created own qemu package. But if I install it, I have two qemu-system-x86_64 for example (in /usr/bin - official 2.3, and /usr/local/bin)09:42
bittin-Ubuntu and Debian isos updated at work :)09:43
mike_papaIf I remove qemu-system package providing /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 I'll need to remove much more in dependencies then my package provides.09:44
bittin-now waiting for the 16.04 isos :)09:46
BlueProtomanHelp!  I can't boot X!  The login screen doesn't appear, though I'm able to log in via tty (I'm writing this via irssi).  I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 with a nVidia GeForce 520M/Intel HD 5000 combo via Optimus.  What do I do?09:49
n-iCeBlueProtoman, live cd?09:49
BlueProtomann-iCe: No.09:50
n-iCeBlueProtoman, you installed it already? with no gui?09:50
BlueProtomann-iCe: Existing installation.  I've had it installed for quite some time, though I just recently broke something.09:50
daedricBlueProtoman: when I had this kind of problems it was always because of something with nvidia drivers, I'd suggest to remove everything nvidia related and try with the nouveau drivers09:50
n-iCeBlueProtoman, ah, I thought that.09:50
BlueProtomandaedric: Out of the question.  My nVidia drivers were working yesterday, and I need them.09:50
daedricBlueProtoman: you can reinstall them later09:51
n-iCeBlueProtoman, reinstall09:51
daedricanyway without X it is not like they are useful09:51
BlueProtomanBut I had it working yesterday!  And in fact, I had it working an hour ago, then got bold and decided to try nvidia-361...and then wound up having to come back here.09:51
n-iCeBlueProtoman, you rebooted, right09:52
BlueProtomann-iCe: Yes, of course09:52
daedricBlueProtoman: ... and you really think that it is not related to your upgrade ?09:52
daedricdo whatever you want.09:52
n-iCegonna be hard09:52
BlueProtomandaedric: I uninstalled 361 and reinstalled 358, but that didn't work either09:53
n-iCeBlueProtoman, check nvidia-current09:53
BlueProtomann-iCe: 304?09:54
daedricBlueProtoman: I never got it right when I install the nvidia via the CLI, I prefer to use the gui and the additional driver. I used to have a dell laptop and only 1 of the nvidia packages was working properly09:54
BlueProtomandaedric, n-iCe: I've had 358 working just fine on this machine, though.09:54
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666117/09:56
BlueProtomanMy /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:56
daedric`Undefined Screen "nvidia" referenced by ServerLayout "layout".`09:58
daedricyou fucked up your nvidia installation09:58
BlueProtomanOK, how do I un-fuck it?09:58
daedricdid you change your xord.conf manually ?09:58
BlueProtomanNo.09:58
n-iCeBlueProtoman, why don't you just reinstall?09:59
n-iCewould be the easy way, and time saver09:59
n-iCeyou can always backup using tty09:59
BlueProtomann-iCe: What, my OS or the drivers?  The drivers I tried, but I'm not in the mood to reinstall my whole OS again so not happening09:59
daedricme I stands for falling back on nouveau and then reinstalling nvidia via the ubuntu GUI, however maybe you can try to remove the nvidia section in the xorg.conf or use the nvidia-xconfig09:59
daedricI'd also be sure to use the nvidia-current10:00
BlueProtomandaedric: nvidia-current is OLD.  304, but I was using 358 yesterday.10:00
daedricwhy do you care ?10:00
BlueProtomanI'm working on a graphics project, I need a recent version of OpenGL10:01
daedricBlueProtoman: why don't you want to repair your computer and update AFTER10:01
BlueProtomanFine, fine, I'll do that.10:01
BlueProtomanWhat's the nouveau package?10:01
daedricyou can try nvidia-xconfig10:01
daedricthere is a tool to generate a xorg.conf IIRC10:02
BlueProtomanOK, but what is the name of the nouveau package?10:02
BlueProtomanSo I can get to that point?10:02
daedricif nvidia-xconfig does not work, the novueau package is: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau10:03
Ben64BlueProtoman: you said you installed a newer nvidia, how did you do that10:03
BlueProtomanBen64: With a PPA10:03
Ben64which10:03
BlueProtomanppa:graphics-drivers, I think it's called10:04
Ben64ok thats a good one10:04
BlueProtomanLet me reboot and see for myself10:04
BlueProtomanNo luck.10:06
lernerI scanned some documents into a sub stick and ported them to my craptop. My craptop's HDD started making noises associated with a faulty hdd. I rebooted but this time, strangely, I didnt have to use a liveusb to restore my system and set a nonblocking pool: the recovery journal did that for me... My question is: does time play a part in the launching of the recovery journal?10:06
Ben64BlueProtoman: you should make sure that the driver actually got built10:06
BlueProtomanSorry, what was the name of the package?  No scrollback in irssi10:06
BlueProtomanBen64: And how can I do that?10:06
lernershould I , next time my hdd start clacking, automatically turn it off so the journal self recovers?10:06
lerner15.10 64 bits10:07
l0ll1p0pBlueProtoman: use pgup and pgdown10:07
daedricBlueProtoman: nvidia-xonfig did not work ?10:07
BlueProtomanl0ll1p0p: Not between sessions10:07
TJ-BlueProtoman: check /var/log/X0rg.0.log for errors, if none there, try $HOME/.xsession-errors10:07
BlueProtomandaedric: It did not10:07
Ben64BlueProtoman: find /var/lib/dkms | grep ko$10:07
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TJ-Ben64: BlueProtoman "dkms status" will report which modules/versions/kernels are installed for10:08
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Ben64TJ-: neat!10:08
TJ-Ben64: thank frank for man :p10:08
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666435/10:09
BlueProtomanMy dkms status10:09
k1l_BlueProtoman: do you use bumblebee?10:10
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666456/10:10
BlueProtomank1l_: No, I use nvidia's equivalent10:10
daedricBlueProtoman: you can try to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.back}10:10
BlueProtoman^ My Xorg.0.log10:10
daedricand startx again (no reboot)10:10
k1l_BlueProtoman: but bbswitch is bumblebee10:10
Ben64no startx10:10
BlueProtomank1l_: Then either I guess I do use it or it's still lying around from when I did.10:11
Ben64k1l_: i have bbswitch on my system. single gpu setup10:11
k1l_BlueProtoman: and bumblebee is deprecated. ubuntu uses the official "nvidia-prime" since some tome10:11
k1l_BlueProtoman: ok, seems like nvidia-prime is still depending on bbswitch10:13
k1l_<k1l_> BlueProtoman: ok, seems like nvidia-prime is still depending on bbswitch10:14
BlueProtomanstartx didn't work.  Well, it displayed a cursor and let me move it around a blank screen, but nothing else happened.10:14
k1l_dont use startx. start the lightdm10:14
BlueProtomanstartx + deleting my existing xorg.conf10:14
Cablegunmasterafter encrypting my home folder, how do I repair my hibernate? :)10:15
daedricBlueProtoman: yeah it was my mistake (the startx) k1l_ is right10:15
BlueProtomank1l_: sddm for Kubuntu, right?10:15
RedbeardtI just installed an Nvidia driver and rebooted and now I boot into black screen. :(10:15
CablegunmasterIt said : "This will break your hibernate "  Note:"This will not break your hibernate / sleep"10:15
TJ-BlueProtoman: what does "uname -r" report ?10:15
k1l_BlueProtoman: depends on what ubuntu version10:15
BlueProtomanTJ-: 4.2.0-35-generic10:17
BlueProtomank1l_: Kubuntu 15.1010:17
k1l_BlueProtoman: then its ssdm10:17
TJ-BlueProtoman: good, that confirms the same kernel version is running as the module is installed for.10:17
BlueProtomanShould I run sddm with sudo?10:17
Kartagiswhy isn't grub recongnising MacOS on another HDD?10:17
TJ-bleepy: try starting the gUI with "sudo systemctl start sddm.service"10:18
k1l_BlueProtoman: stop starting stuff yourself. use the init system.10:18
Kartagisrecognising*10:18
BlueProtomank1l_: OK, how?10:18
daedricBlueProtoman: it should be a service, so /etc/init.d/sddm restart10:18
k1l_BlueProtoman: "sudo systemctl start sddm"10:18
BlueProtomank1l_: Nothing.  No error, but no output either.10:19
daedricBlueProtoman: reupload you Xorg.log10:19
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666584/10:20
BlueProtomanAsk and you shall receive10:20
k1l_BlueProtoman: you have networkconnection? then please "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"10:20
k1l_ah ok10:20
k1l_"Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"10:20
BlueProtomanOK, what does that mean and what do I do about it?10:21
k1l_"sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old"10:21
daedricBlueProtoman: didn't you moved your xorg.conf{,.back} ?10:21
BlueProtomandaedric: Yes, I did10:21
k1l_that renames the xorg.conf which seems to be faulty10:21
daedricBlueProtoman: so either you missed the command, or it was regenerated.10:22
daedricmaybe after the move, you can touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:22
BlueProtomank1l_: OK, ran that, now what?10:22
daedricBlueProtoman: restart the service10:22
k1l_"sudo systemctl start sddm.service"10:22
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eimer_Hi10:23
BlueProtomandaedric, k1l_: No output, no error.10:23
daedricwas a xorg.conf recreated ?10:23
BlueProtomandaedric: Yes10:23
daedricBlueProtoman: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:24
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666638/10:24
k1l_BlueProtoman: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"10:24
eimer_I installed xcb but where can I find the header files? I still get an: fatal error: xcb/xcb.h: No such file or directory10:24
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666646/10:25
k1l_BlueProtoman: did you create that new xorg.conf?10:25
BlueProtomank1l_: Yes, one second10:25
k1l_"Undefined Screen "nvidia" referenced by ServerLayout "layout"."    that is the issue10:25
BlueProtomank1l_: OK, now how do I resolve it?10:25
BlueProtomanClearing and regenerating the xorg.conf is clearly not helping10:25
k1l_did you regenerate it manually? or just remove the file and tried to start ssdm?10:26
BlueProtomanBoth10:26
lotuspsychjeeimer_: did you install it from repos, or compiled from source?10:27
eimer_lotuspsychje, i did it over the terminal "sodu apt-get install xcb"10:28
k1l_BlueProtoman: "apt-cache policy ubuntu-drivers-common" in a pastebin please10:28
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666694/10:28
BlueProtomank1l_: ^10:29
lotuspsychjeeimer_: could this be it? libx11-xcb-dev - Xlib/XCB interface library (development headers)10:29
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eimer_Oh wow. Yea. Thats the right one.10:30
eimer_Thank you :-)10:30
k1l_BlueProtoman: seems its this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/148523610:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485236 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Wily) "gpu-manager generates an invalid xorg.conf file" [High,Triaged]10:30
daedricBlueProtoman: me personnaly I'd remove everything nvidia related (like sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia\* )10:30
BlueProtomank1l_: Oh, for fuck's sake.10:31
BlueProtomandaedric: Then what?10:31
daedricBlueProtoman: then it won't be able to generate a xorg.conf with nvidia, and the intel chipset should be used or nouveau driver10:32
BlueProtomandaedric: And then I can switch back to nVidia, right?  I *need* the nvidia drivers10:32
daedricBlueProtoman: yes, but maybe not a bleeding edge version in a ppa :). Maybe k1l_ or someone else has another solution10:33
BlueProtomandaedric: The PPA I used is supposed to be tested and maintained.  I had no problems with 35810:33
daedricBlueProtoman: it might not be the driver itself but the fact that you have also an intel card10:33
BlueProtomandaedric: OK.  But again.  This same driver, 358, has worked fine for me for months.10:34
k1l_BlueProtoman: wait a minute, i am searching for a workaround10:34
daedricBlueProtoman: I've had also those kind of issue (but I'm not doing opengl development, I use the nvidia driver because nouveau does not handle well multiple external display)10:35
k1l_BlueProtoman: can you show a /var/log/syslog ?10:35
daedricalso, it seems that you have not the ubuntu-drivers-common 1:0.4.14 but the 1:0.4.1110:35
daedricand they say it has been fixed in 1:0.4.1110:35
daedricsorry10:35
daedric1:0.4.1410:35
k1l_daedric: that is just in xenial so far.10:36
hateballBlueProtoman: I see you left #kubuntu, did 358 not work with the older kernel either, like it did when you were first asking for help?10:36
BlueProtomanhateball: It did, then I got bold and decided to try 361.  That failed, so I uninstalled and reinstalled 358.  That too failed, so now I'm back here.10:36
daedrick1l_: my bad10:36
BlueProtomank1l_: It's huge.  It doesn't contain any personally identifying info, does it?10:36
k1l_BlueProtoman: no. no personal information10:37
BlueProtomank1l_: OK.10:37
daedrick1l_: personal, no, but may your username + some software you installed10:37
BlueProtomanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15666804/10:37
hateballBlueProtoman: Yes but if you recall, we tried booting an older kernel via the grub menu. By default on reboot it will choose the latest one, not the most recently used10:37
BlueProtomanhateball: That didn't work either.10:38
BlueProtomanhateball: At least not after I made the wise decision to try 36110:38
hateballBlueProtoman: Which means if you re-install 358, it will still boot 4.2.0-3510:38
hateballBlueProtoman: Ah, alright10:38
hateballBlueProtoman: Have you tried 352?10:38
BlueProtomanNext laptop I buy (probably end of this year or early next), I'm making damned fucking sure I won't have to deal with this shit10:38
hateballHybrid graphics are a pain10:38
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: please remain polite10:39
BlueProtomanhateball: Don't think so, but if I can stay with 358 I'd rather do so10:39
hateballBlueProtoman: Sure, just a means of troubleshooting is all10:39
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mer0lllllllolllllll10:39
mer0ظن10:39
hateballBlueProtoman: It is the "LTS" branch after all10:39
mer0ظن10:40
hateballBlueProtoman: That said, if you have a manual xorg.conf or something of the sort, that might break things regardless of driver10:40
k1l_BlueProtoman: the bugreport says the issue is, that its looking in syslog for nvidia which brings an old error in. maybe a syslog rotate helps already10:40
BlueProtomanhateball: No, it was not manual.10:40
BlueProtomank1l_: So clear my /var/syslog?  How?  Just rm it?10:40
hateballBlueProtoman: Stop the syslog service first or it wont release the file10:41
BlueProtomanhateball: How?10:41
hateballBlueProtoman: euh... I think "sudo service syslog stop" on 15.10. Am on 14.04 atm here10:42
k1l_logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog10:43
hateballthat'll do it as well10:43
k1l_but i think systemd now handles that stuff. but i dont know if that will catch the syslog.10:43
BlueProtomansudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified10:44
BlueProtomanYou are trying to send an empty document, exiting.10:44
BlueProtomanOK, now what?10:44
BlueProtomanErr, oops, didn't think that was visible10:44
BlueProtomanCan I reinstall nvidia-358 now?10:45
k1l_was it removed?10:46
BlueProtomanYes10:46
rexwin_how to stop firewall in ubuntu10:46
BlueProtomanRemoved it about half an hour ago10:46
k1l_run a "sudo apt purge nvidia*" first10:46
BlueProtomanWait, no, syslogs weren't purged properly10:46
k1l_to make sure you dont have any other nvidia version left10:46
Bonn333rexwin_: sudo service apparmor stop10:46
Bonn333My fail.10:48
Bonn333I dont know10:48
BlueProtomank1l_: How do I rotate the logfile again?  I get a bunch of errors that look like "skipping file because parent directory has insecure permissions"10:48
BlueProtoman(Can't /exec -out it here, need sudo but I can't provide it in irssi)10:49
rexwin_apparmor: unrecognized service10:49
TJ-Bonn333: rexwin_ apparmor is *not* the firewall, it is the process containment security service10:50
Bonn333TJ- Sorry. I am so stupid10:50
Bonn333xd10:50
hiyaWhat is the easiest way to setup VNC server on Ubuntu? So that my friend can connect using VNC and fix my computer? he won't use teamviewer because It is not free/libre10:52
BlueProtomanhiya: What about Remmina?10:52
hiyaBlueProtoman, what is it?10:53
BlueProtomanhiya: VNC client, I think10:53
BlueProtomanNever used it, but it wouldn't hurt to take a look10:53
Robert-TzaganuHi guys10:54
BlueProtomanhateball: After I install nvidia-358, I can just restart the syslog service again?10:54
k1l_BlueProtoman: the thing is the driver handler scans the syslog. anf while he finds old nvidia stuff there he makes wrong settings.10:55
BlueProtomank1l_: Right.  So I just reinstalled nvidia-358 and restarted the syslog service.  Now what?10:56
BlueProtoman(in that order)10:56
k1l_try to load ssdm10:56
BlueProtomanWhat was the command for that again?10:56
k1l_"sudo systemctl start sddm.service"10:57
BlueProtomank1l_: Nothing.  No error, no output.10:57
k1l_please make a reboot10:57
BlueProtomanOK, be right back10:57
BlueProtomanhateball, k1l_: It worked!  In celebration, I shall now blast Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now", sleeping roommates be damned.11:00
hateballBlueProtoman: :D11:00
BlueProtomanThank you so much!  And you, daedric11:00
k1l_ok :)11:01
hateballBlueProtoman: Remember there's a 16.04 coming up, so... you might experience breakage soon :p11:01
k1l_that issue is fixed in 16.04 :)11:01
hateballI see11:01
BlueProtomanhateball: Not gonna upgrade until the semester's over (and in fact, I'm gonna switch back to plain old Ubuntu; Kubuntu's been more trouble than it's worth)11:01
hateballMeh, too each their own. I couldnt live without plasma :)11:02
BlueProtomanIt crashes on me more often than GNOME did11:02
hateballDriver issues of this kind are unrelated to the DE at any rate11:02
sine0Ok so i have ubuntu 15.10, I am getting a problem with webpages loading in ANY browser. sometimes they just hang, yet i can ping google and the websites fine from teh command line. its not the internet its something going on in the OS itself, any anyone think what it could be ?11:03
BlueProtomanYeah, I know.  Still considering switching back to GNOME when I upgrade though11:03
hateballBlueProtoman: Well you dont need to reinstall anyhows, you can just upgrade (and you have to since 15.10 goes EOL), and switch between DE's at login11:03
BlueProtomanhateball: I kind of want to repartition anyway11:04
hateballBlueProtoman: Sure, even tho you can just do that from a live-cd anyhow11:04
BlueProtomanWhatever the case, thank you for your help!11:05
hateball:)11:05
BlueProtomanhateball: Oh, uh, actually, one more thing; how do I enable my nVidia GPU again?11:08
hateballBlueProtoman: Do you have nvidia-prime installed? Then you go in nvidia-settings and choose operating mode11:10
BlueProtomanhateball: Oh, yes, I see.  Thanks!11:11
hateballBlueProtoman: as far as I know, I should say. Not using hybrid graphics myself11:11
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BluesKajHi folks11:15
adacDoes for someone still work the my-weather-indicator  with yahoo?11:15
k1l_adac: after the update it doesnt work anymore at all for me :/11:17
adack1l_, :/11:17
k1l_adac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/my-weather-indicator/+bug/156549511:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1565495 in my-weather-indicator "My-Weather-Indicator won't launch on Ubuntu 16.04" [Undecided,New]11:19
adack1l_, lets hope someone can fix ist11:20
adac*fix it11:20
Chandraxhi people11:21
Chandraxi somebody can help me.. i am trying to update the bios for my Lenovo with ubuntu 15 installed11:21
Chandraxbut unfortunately... i must do it from windows only... so when i try to install windows on a free partition.. the installer says  i cant do it because the disk has a GPT partition type11:22
Chandraxany idea how to do that?11:23
lotuspsychjeChandrax: check the pc models webpage, for bios update instructions11:23
Chandraxi did11:23
Chandraxand i must have windows installed to make the update11:23
lotuspsychjeChandrax: no bootable cd method possible?11:23
Chandraxi cant boot from that cd...11:24
TJ-Chandrax: is it an UEFI capsule you have to upgrade with?11:24
Chandraxi dont know what is a uefi capsule11:24
Chandraxi just can tell you that i have an uefi boot11:24
hateballThen it is possible to upgrade without Windows iirc, just annoying11:25
dsgdsgdsgIs there a way to pick and choose what traffic goes through a VPN? I want to use a VPN for everything except my online games11:25
Chandraxhateball explain please11:25
TJ-Chandrax: Does the PC have a UEFI ? ahhh, yes, then the update is probably delivered as an UEFI Capsule format file. You might be interested to know that as of Ubuntu 16.04 you'll be able to update the firmware from Linux with a Capsule file11:25
hateballChandrax: I think TJ- knows more11:25
Chandraxcool11:25
ChandraxTJ how?11:26
Chandraxis there a link to a tutorial?11:26
Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, just shut off the routing when you start up the game xD.11:29
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: What if I want to browse the web and game at the same time?11:30
TJ-!info fwupdate | Chandrax11:30
ubottuChandrax: fwupdate (source: fwupdate): Tools to manage UEFI firmware updates. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-4ubuntu2 (wily), package size 27 kB, installed size 91 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; armhf; arm64; armel)11:30
Cablegunmasteronly setup the routing for port 80 and 443.11:30
Chandraxthanks alot11:31
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Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, where do you put those rules? in the router or on your ubuntu installation?11:31
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: In Ubuntu11:32
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: I haven't set anything up yet11:32
TJ-Chandrax: also see the primary upstream project: https://secure-lvfs.rhcloud.com/11:32
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: Just exploring whether it's possible11:32
Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, everything is possible ;)11:32
Cablegunmasterquestion is how much time do you want to spend on it.11:32
Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/674052/route-only-https-traffic-through-vpn try A.B answer11:33
CablegunmasterI think that seems the way to go.11:33
Chandraxthanku11:33
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: I want my Bittorrent to go through VPN too11:33
Cablegunmasterwell same way, but make sure the bittorrent has a fixed port11:34
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: Nice, thanks!11:34
Cablegunmasterjust note down the port11:34
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: it would probably be better if I could just blacklist my games11:34
Cablegunmastergood luck its just a reference, dsgdsgdsg  but it seems solid.11:34
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: It's just games I don't want going through the VPN11:34
Cablegunmasterwell lookup the ports the games are using.11:35
Cablegunmasterand use the same link.11:35
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster:Nice, thanks!11:35
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: Can I do the same thing on Windows 10?11:35
Cablegunmasternope11:35
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: wow that sucks11:36
Cablegunmastermight, actually but I don't know how yet.11:36
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: Can I not install iptables on Windows?11:36
Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, http://serverfault.com/questions/207620/windows-equivalent-of-iptables11:37
Cablegunmastersomething like this xD .11:37
dsgdsgdsgCablegunmaster: What VPN should I use? I heard Private Internet Access is quite good11:40
Cablegunmasterdsgdsgdsg, your own choice11:41
BluesKajdsgdsgdsg, I use PIA , it's exellent , inexpensive, reliable and easy to setup11:42
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: And easy to blacklist games so I don't get laggy gaming?11:42
dsgdsgdsgBlue1: Will it stop my parents from seeing the websites I visit?11:43
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: It looks like they don't offer the $2.50 a month deal any more :(11:44
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: Only $3.25 now :(11:44
BluesKajdsgdsgdsg, wife uses it on windows for her games like D&D and Lotro, no issues or lag etc, I'm not a gamer11:44
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: Those games aren't esports. I can't use a VPN for competitive gaming11:44
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: I will either need to reroute gaming traffic or disable routing when I launch a game11:45
BluesKajok, vpn is meant more for anonymity I think11:45
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: I want anonymity and to play games11:46
cfhowletttails for anon11:46
dsgdsgdsgBluesKaj: I just prefer lower latency in-game and not anonymity, then anonymity in torrent client and firefox11:46
BluesKajdsgdsgdsg,, you can chat with the PIA rep on their site and get your questions answered there11:46
EriC^^back in the day you used to put a null character in the windows folder so nobody could access it11:47
EriC^^and remove it from the command line , alt+0255 or something11:47
mallardIs there a tool that easily sets up Xinerama?11:49
mallardI'm having a look at the XineramaHowTo wiki article but I don't have an Xorg.conf11:50
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Alex____Hello12:02
rillehHello Alex____12:03
Alex____Please help to me install my nvidia driver12:03
Alex____would you please help me out ?12:04
hateballAlex____: What seems to be the problem?12:04
rilleh364.15 Beta is out today, is this the one you want to install?12:04
hateballThat's also not in the repos, thus not supported here per se12:05
Alex____no i want to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-361.42.run12:05
rillehAlex____: What's the problem?12:06
Alex____I have already downloaded the file from the nvidia website12:06
Alex____i don't know how to insatll12:06
hateballAlex____: I'd suggest you add the nvidia ppa instead, if you really want newer drivers than are in the official repos12:06
BluesKajAlex____, that's not an ubuntu  supported driver , it will break on your first kernel upgrade12:06
cfhowlettAlex____, beta drivers?  and not in the repos?  Not supported here.  hint: use the official repos12:07
hateballAlex____: If you know what you are doing, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa12:07
Diamond_Swordhello friends..12:08
Diamond_Swordthis is what I've accomplished :) http://i.hizliresim.com/Zkp0mG.png12:08
Diamond_Swordthank you all for help12:08
Alex____just tell me how can i install the driver12:09
BluesKajAlex____,  pastebin, lspci |grep VGA, to give us which gpu you have12:09
cfhowlett!ppa | Alex____12:09
ubottuAlex____: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:09
hgtyis there only 2 gtk thrmes in ubuntu, or?12:09
EriC^^!themes | hgty12:10
ubottuhgty: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy12:10
Alex____so you means i can't install it ?12:10
Alex____what ubuntu support then >12:10
Alex____?12:10
hgtyeven adwaita theme is not available12:10
rillehYou can install it, it's just not officially supported Alex____12:10
cfhowlettAlex____, full instructions are in the links.  we don't do a lot of handholding here.12:10
rillehRead up on how to add PPA on your system and then install your driver from there12:11
Alex____i got you but if you ubuntu do not give support about the additional hardware drivers of those hardware what kind of system it is ?12:13
Alex____then why should i use if i can't use those hardwares12:13
Alex____lol12:13
cfhowlettAlex____, we did support you.  refer the tlinks12:13
Alex____i can find it myself12:14
kalexycobonjour12:24
cfhowlett!fr | kalexyco12:25
ubottukalexyco: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.12:25
Derunihello guys12:30
DeruniI am new with ubuntu I am trying to change directory but it says no such file or directory12:30
spacecubhi all :)12:30
DeruniI typed ls and there is Downloads section but I can't get into12:31
FuchsDeruni: sure it is spelled correctly, including case?12:31
spacecubtrying to install q3a on lubuntu64, not having much luck with games :)12:31
FuchsDeruni: you can use the tab key to autocomplete it for you12:31
k1l_Deruni: what did you type exactly?12:31
spacecubis it ok to install samba these days, or should i be using something else?12:31
DeruniI am typing cd /Downloads but didn't work12:31
k1l_Deruni: try without the /12:32
FuchsDeruni: no /12:32
Deruni?12:32
FuchsDeruni: otherwise it will try at the root folder  (/)12:32
Deruniohh thanks12:32
FuchsDeruni: cd Downloads      if Downloads is in the current folder you are in  (probably: your home folder)12:32
k1l_/folder  means that you want to go to the "folder" on /12:32
DeruniI am that stupid :D12:32
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FuchsDeruni: nah, no worries, you'll learn :)12:33
rillehspacecub: I use it on my homeserver withouth issues12:33
Derunifunch: thanks mate I am eager to learn new stuffs and I wanna be programmer this is probably off-topic but is there a chat room like that? yesterday evening I try to join off topic but I couldn't get in12:35
cfhowlett!ot | derFlo12:35
ubottuderFlo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:35
KartagisDeruni: whereas cd ~/Downloads will take you to Downloads directory in your home directory, no matter where you are on the filesystem12:35
FuchsDeruni: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for social chatter, there is ##programming   for programming12:35
cfhowlettDeruni, do this:   /join #ubuntu-offtopic12:35
FuchsDeruni: there are various others, e.g. for specific languages. In general: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.12:35
spacecubrilleh: thanky, i assume you mean Samba, lubuntu always complkains of untrusted sources?12:36
Derunithats why I love linux I wish I didn't quit when ı was a teenager everyone is so helpfull thanks guys12:36
cfhowlett!fcm | Deruni12:37
ubottuDeruni: fcm is THE Ubuntu Community Magazine - find it at www.fullcirclemagazine.org, or #fullcirclemagazine12:37
spacecuboh, its woking today..12:37
spacecubworking12:37
Knoodlehi. sorry to bother... but i'd love someone to explain me how to make a uefi capsule update for my bios... i have a Lenovo B50-10 laptop12:43
n-iCeKnoodle, bever used it12:45
n-iCesorry12:45
Knoodlewho is bever?12:47
k1l_*never12:47
Derunican I hide the servers enterence and leaving massages?12:50
cfhowlett!quietirc | Deruni12:50
ubottuDeruni: To ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages12:50
maddawg3w007... my seeds shipped today12:51
maddawg3so exciting12:51
LeftFootBrakerHey Guys, I have a question about smb: what bandwidth can you expect when two linux-machines are connected via 100M-Ethernet? -I am only getting 4MB/s... :-(12:51
maddawg3well that's 32Mb/s12:51
Knoodleplease somebody help me12:51
maddawg3thats about what i'd expect at 100mb/s12:51
Derunithanks again12:51
LeftFootBrakerand that only about a third what I would expect... :-)12:52
maddawg3no12:52
maddawg3smb12:52
LJHSLDJHSDLJHWhile I'm trying to install LAMP I found this command sudo apt-get install apache2 apache-utils, the second part is not working. Does anyone know what apache-utils is? what would I need it for?12:52
maddawg3huge overhead12:52
maddawg3use something like NFS12:52
cfhowlettKnoodle, you asked.   now be patient and wait.  if no answer in 15 minutes, ask again12:52
Knoodleok. ssorry12:52
LeftFootBrakerbut the overhead should be showing on the eth0-traffic, shouldn't it?12:53
maddawg3no  smb just isnt very fast12:53
LeftFootBrakerso, raw it should be about 100Mb, the actual transferred bandwith is lower12:53
maddawg3do iperf between each server12:53
LeftFootBrakerboth machines show cpu usage below 20%12:54
k1l_LeftFootBraker: no. the cable can do 100M in best case. there is not mention of software on that12:54
maddawg3install iperf on one machine and run the test against the other12:54
maddawg3tell me what speeds you see12:54
k1l_LeftFootBraker: and smb is slow12:54
maddawg3SLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW12:54
k1l_LeftFootBraker: and if you run it on a rpi, its even more slow12:54
maddawg3personally i use nfs12:55
LeftFootBrakerok, one moment, iperf isn't installed on either machine12:55
LeftFootBrakerok, but even the rpi reports 95% idle at the moment12:55
LeftFootBrakerjust installing iperf on the desktop12:55
k1l_LeftFootBraker: the rpi is slow at everything. so guess 4MB/s is right ok.12:57
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Guest581Woooooo~~~12:58
LeftFootBrakerlol... with iperf I am only 17.4 to 20 Mb/s... ;-)12:59
LeftFootBraker...only getting...12:59
maddawg3whats the speed of the storage on the rasppi12:59
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LeftFootBrakerusb-hdd12:59
maddawg3usb 1.0?12:59
maddawg32.0?12:59
LeftFootBraker2.012:59
Guest581woo13:00
maddawg3i mean personally 100mb/s is a rating in a perfect environment13:00
cfhowlettGuest581, this is ubuntu support.  ask your technical question13:00
LeftFootBrakernetworking is confusing... -smb produces 32MBps, iperf only 20... some magic going on there :-)13:00
LeftFootBrakermaddawg3: I know... 100MB/s is best conditions, but I was expecting a bit more than 32Mb/s for a large transfer...13:01
LeftFootBrakerok, then I have to stick with it... :-(13:01
maddawg3firast it's not 100MB/s13:01
maddawg3it's 100Mb/s13:02
maddawg3VERY different measurement13:02
LeftFootBrakersorry... I meant 100Mb13:02
LeftFootBrakerwas a typo13:02
maddawg3get giagbit13:02
Guest581does anyone knnow how can I remove the qt4 in the gbueabi package13:02
maddawg3it's 201613:02
LeftFootBrakermy desktop has 1G-Ethernet, but the rpi doesn't (as far as I know) and I only have 100M-switches... :-(13:03
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k1l_LeftFootBraker: performance and rpi. choose one. :)13:03
LeftFootBrakerok, thanks to all contributors; I think I had too high expectations... -so, case closed :-) -thanks again for all answers! :-)13:04
pbxi have to select "enable wifi" when i wake my dell e5450 from sleep (ubuntu 14.04). didn't have to do this on my last dell running 14.04. how can i set it to enable on wake?13:04
Guest581LOL13:05
NoisyBoyciao13:09
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ubuntu_for a question about intalling a tar.gz file witouth install file inside kann i ask here?13:17
Knoodleok i guess now i can ask help again13:18
Knoodlei have a lenovo b50-10 with ubuntu  and i need to make a uefi capsule firmware update... i dont understand how to do it. could you help?13:18
ubuntu_also i have downloaded the m-audio usb midi firmware from sourhforge.. now i don't find install file in the archive and in a way the komputer ask me fore fxload.. same problem whit this..13:21
ubuntu_i have to install a tar.gz file who kann i ask?13:21
ouroumovubuntu_, depends on what's in the .tar.gz file. It's just an archive format like .zip13:22
ubuntu_ourmov kann i link you something? maybe you do it in one second?13:23
ouroumovyeah give the download link13:23
momobisalut fr13:24
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NoisyBoyhttp://irclog.greptilian.com/openknot/today13:24
Guest80451hi13:24
NoisyBoyciao13:25
ouroumov !fr | momobi13:25
ubottumomobi: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:25
ubuntu_thank you bro but i think i made it on the fly by searching fore you.. sometimes to make the simplest thing i get the most time13:25
ubuntu_thank you wery much13:25
ubuntu_but13:25
Guest80451this irc is encrypted ?13:26
ubuntu_http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/13:26
pitastrudlhow do i add sftp to nautilus, i have a ssh server but its not on defualt port and its key based login13:26
ubuntu_ouroumov... this is the link.. how to did it whit this way please? so i could learn something new http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/13:26
ouroumovubuntu_, you do this by executing the files in some orders. I think starting with install-sh, the code needs to be compiled into a binary which is why there's files such as Makefile* using the "make" command after having configured (using the ./configure program) for your computer13:29
Tex_Nickpitastrudl: CTRL+L then ... sftp://example.org[:port]/   or   sftp://[user[:password]@]example.org[:port]/[path/to/directory/]13:31
pitastrudl omg that worked13:32
pitastrudlthanks alot Tex_Nick13:32
pitastrudlwooo13:32
Tex_Nickpitastrudl: you're welcome my friend ;-)13:32
pitastrudli wonder if i should keep using nautilus or just switch to filezilla13:32
ubuntu_i don't have the need, i think.. to write it new for my esigence... also for my computer.. i found also the same file on the ubuntu software center!!! also no problem13:33
pitastrudli dont really need much from it but maybe a better piece of software would be better13:33
ubuntu_thank you very much.. this way, I think.. is for more professional audio studio... for my usb uno 1x1 it schould do the job ^^13:34
ouroumovfilezilla is pretty good, though the version in the repos lags quite a bit behind the current version13:34
ouroumovAnd compiling a recent version is painful.13:34
SchrodingersScat!latest13:34
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:34
Tex_Nickpitastrudl: there are so many options for file sharing in linux that i couldn't answer that13:35
ouroumovSchrodingersScat, I wasn't complaining, just stating a fact. Some new ciphers / MACs, etcs have no support in the current version which forced me to compile the new one following a change in ssh configuration on a server I use.13:36
rdsc13:43
Kartagis!grub13:45
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub213:45
n-iCeweird Sound from both headphones and speakers13:47
sh0thi guys13:48
sh0ti upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 if i ran gnome-control-center i can't see the audio settings, i have audio though... the problem is that i want to run the gnome-sound-applet in awesome wm like i was doing in ubuntu 14.0413:50
sh0twhere didi my audio applet go?13:50
sh0t:)13:50
pitastrudlTex_Nick: ok13:52
pitastrudlguess ill just stay with nautilus13:52
pitastrudlim using windows as my main os on pc13:53
Tex_Nickpitastrudl: i use it a lot on my lan with static ip ... sftp://userName@nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn   then enter password @ prompt13:54
pitastrudlyeah i got a raspbery pi so i use that for it then13:56
pitastrudlbut i dont have password, just passphrasless priv key13:56
alnourhi13:59
alnouri want to use some sort of some thing in that some13:59
Knoodlehello i am back..14:01
Knoodleplease somebody help me to update the firmware of my pc with uefi capsule mode14:02
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daveomcdI just remove a file on ubuntu server with "rm", but it still says I'm taking up 94% space... what do i need to do to permanently delete the file?14:03
rseverodaveomcd: There probably is a running process with this file still opened. IF you stop this procees, the spave will be actually freed.14:04
daveomcdis there a way to check for that?14:05
LeftFootBrakerdaveomcd: lsof | grep <nameoffile>14:05
rseverodaveomcd: I bet luser of fsof might be able to provide this info but I don't know the exact incantation.14:05
daveomcdrsevero, ok that showed many different processes... is there a way to restart just those processes easily? I'm just looking to see if there is a way to do it other than restarting the server14:07
jocker5me5hi14:08
n-iCeany idea? I have sound in speakers and headphones14:09
rseverodaveomcd: You can always kill those processes but I'm not sure that's a nice way to deal with the problem. What file is it? A log file?14:09
daveomcdrsevero, yep log files14:09
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rseveroCan't you restart the daemon creating this log file?14:10
LeftFootBrakerdavomcd: post the output of the lsof-command14:11
daveomcdahh i'll try that uno momento14:11
LeftFootBrakerif you don't like to do that14:11
LeftFootBrakerthe first row is the name of the process, the second the pid14:12
LeftFootBrakerassume "example     12345 ...." example would be the name of the process and 12345 the pid14:12
rseveroHi. I have a Ubuntu 15.10 machine presenting errrors like the following during an "apt-get dist-upgrade":14:14
rseveroError getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)14:14
rseveroFailed to execute operation: Connection timed out14:14
rseveroError getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1': timed out (g-dbus-error-quark, 20)14:14
rseveroAny ideias on what is wrong? And on how to fix?14:14
=== N3X15_ is now known as N3X15
codenamepodNeed help with Ubuntu-Win dual boot.14:15
EriC^^codenamepod: what's up?14:16
codenamepodHey EriC^^ : I installed Ubuntu and did a boot-repair but then Windows won't boot.14:16
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, which windows?14:17
codenamepodSo, I reinstalled windows and now there is no option to boot into ubuntu14:17
codenamepodWindows 10, it is14:17
EriC^^aha14:17
EriC^^are you in windows right now or ubuntu live usb?14:17
codenamepodWindows, now14:17
EriC^^ok, boot the ubuntu live usb and get back on here14:18
jocker5me5need some one to hack site and edit the database14:18
EriC^^lol14:19
EriC^^which site?14:19
bayerhi, i compiled the iwlwifi kernel module for the intel 7260 wireless card, and now i wonder if there is a way to do this automatically, so that i dont have to do it everytime i update the system (i.e. the kernel)?14:19
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EriC^^jocker5me5: actually dont tell us14:19
nomicrr14:19
jocker5me5why ?14:20
EriC^^cause if you do hack it you don't want any proof on irc14:20
EriC^^that's not to say it's not a stupid idea to hack anything14:20
EriC^^are you trying to change your grades in highschool or something?14:21
jocker5me5i dont care about my grade14:22
jocker5me5something else i care about it14:22
PiciWell, whatever it is its not really on-topic for #ubuntu or anywhere on freenode.14:23
EriC^^bayer: you can write your own script or use dkms14:24
TvL2386why is that "make startup disk" thing only able to create bootable usb sticks with ubuntu and not just any iso?14:24
EriC^^TvL2386: cause it's specifically for ubuntu, unetbootin is for other os's14:25
bayerthx, EriC^^ - look like dkm is what i've been looking for14:25
codenamepodIs there any way to fix my prob without corrupting any of the os?14:25
bayererr, dkms14:25
EriC^^codenamepod: yes14:25
codenamepodplease tell.14:25
EriC^^bayer: np14:25
codenamepodAssuming that my bios is in legacy mode14:26
EriC^^codenamepod: you'd have to boot into an ubuntu live usb and share some pastes to get an idea of the situation14:26
codenamepodok14:26
TvL2386EriC^^, thx! Too bad though...14:26
TJ-bayer: FYI here's a simple example of a DKMS package source location and config file14:26
TJ-bayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670464/14:26
bayerthx TJ-14:27
TJ-bayer: directory naming format under /usr/src/<module-name>-<module-version>/14:28
TJ-bayer: technically, I should call those PACKAGE_NAME and PACKAGE_VERSION to match the dkms.conf14:28
bayeranyway, i understand what you mean - thx again!14:30
codenamepodbooted into linuxlive14:31
codenamepodEriC^^ what I need to do?14:31
codenamepodthere?14:32
EriC^^codenamepod: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999914:32
codenamepodhttp://termbin.com/hj4y14:33
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, type sudo update-grub14:33
mikecmpbllhi folks. I previously used iptables to add some netfilter rules, now I've installed ufw and have done `ufw default deny incoming` and enabled it. however, when i run sudo iptables -L -v it shows the old rules at the top under "Chain INPUT"14:34
sveinseI want to compile an (old) linux kernel and for that I  need to use gcc-4.9. What is the Ubuntu way of selecting the right compiler?14:34
mikecmpbllis ufw overriding those rules, or do they still apply? if so how do I start from a blankstate?14:34
codenamepodI m in linuxlive actually14:34
EriC^^codenamepod: parted isn't available?14:34
EriC^^ah right14:34
codenamepodsudo update-grub results /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'14:35
codenamepodGParted is available14:35
EriC^^codenamepod: is the root partition 32gb or is that home?14:35
LeftFootBrakerEriC^^: what about a quick mount?14:36
TJ-mikecmpbll: flush the existing rules first, then start UFW14:36
LeftFootBrakerjust to look up which partition is which?14:36
codenamepodI think 32.4GB is root14:36
EriC^^LeftFootBraker: sure, coming up14:36
codenamepod20GB is home14:36
LeftFootBrakerEriC^^: sorry, I'll leave it to you :-)14:36
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt14:36
EriC^^LeftFootBraker: :)14:37
TJ-mikecmpbll: as in "ip{,6}tables --flush <CHAIN>"14:37
codenamepodDone14:37
EriC^^codenamepod: type the following14:37
EriC^^codenamepod: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done14:37
mikecmpbllTJ- : cool, what is chain anyway? not understood that part yet14:38
mikecmpbllTJ- : and should I stop ufw first, flush iptables, then start it?14:38
TJ-mikecmpbll: "INPUT" is one chain, then there's FORWARD and OUTPUT, plus any you create yourself14:38
TJ-mikecmpbll: yes, else you'll wipe out UFW's rules :)14:38
codenamepodEriC^^14:38
codenamepoddone14:38
mikecmpbllhmm.14:39
EriC^^codenamepod: sudo chroot /mnt14:39
codenamepodDone14:39
TJ-mikecmpbll: UFW is just an alternate, higher-level, interface, it uses iptables to apply the rules just the same as you doing it manually14:39
EriC^^codenamepod: try update-grub14:40
mikecmpbllTJ- : gotcha. when i issued `ufw default deny incoming` after i already had rules to allow SSH from certain IPs, those IPs could still connect via ssh because the ufw default applied after in the "chain" or something?14:41
codenamepoddone14:41
EriC^^codenamepod: did it mention windows?14:41
codenamepodEriC^^ done14:41
AutomatonHey guys, quick question and I'm probably being stupid: how do I save a file as a config file instead of it saving as a text file? I'm on kubuntu and using kate editor. I type in name.conf when I save it but it saves it as a text file. Google hasn't helped14:41
codenamepodroot@ubuntu:/# update-grub Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-17-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-17-generic Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-15-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-15-generic done14:41
MyrttiAutomaton: config files are text files14:41
LeftFootBrakerAutomaton: config files are text file, only the extension differs...14:41
zykotick9Automaton: config files are 99.9% of the time, text files14:41
codenamepodNo. Just Linux14:41
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, try os-prober14:42
Automatonah ok, guess my problem is something else then14:42
MyrttiAutomaton: they don't even need to be .config with extension, it can be whatever the app wants and approves14:42
LeftFootBrakerAutomaton: go in a terminal and rename it14:42
timvisheri have ubuntu running from the ubuntu/trusty64 vagrant box and it appears to not have apt installed on it. how would i go about installing apt?14:42
codenamepodEric^^ done. No output this time14:42
MyrttiAutomaton: so if it doesn't work, make sure that you've named the file as the application expects it to be and placed it to a directory the application is searching for for a config file14:42
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, i think you have to make a custom entry for windows14:43
EriC^^codenamepod: any reason you're not using uefi with windows?14:43
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AutomatonThanks guys :) Think the issue might be not having it in the right folder. Just trying to import some themes to Code::Blocks14:44
codenamepodNo reasons. It was as it was. And I decided not to mess up with it until next windows reset14:44
codenamepodWill that cause problem?14:45
codenamepodEriC^^14:45
EriC^^no i dont think so14:45
AutomatonAlthough now I think the folder where it might have to be in is hidden, I don't think I'm doing this the right way14:45
codenamepodIs there any guide to add windows as a start entry14:46
EriC^^i have a windows 8 legacy entry somewhere i'll upload it14:48
dragonbitecodenamepod: as in adding windows to the startup grub?14:48
EriC^^couldn't find anything on google for windows 10 so maybe windows 10 is the same14:48
codenamepodyes dragonbite14:48
upphello, can i download ubuntu 16.04 LTS or i have to wait until 21 april?14:48
lotuspsychjeupp: join #ubuntu+1 plz14:49
EriC^^codenamepod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15670895/14:49
x3mboyupp: if you want the stable, you have to wait, otherwise you will download a beta release14:49
EriC^^codenamepod: type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom14:50
EriC^^and add that there, put windows 10 instead of 8 then save14:50
codenamepodUbuntu Paste link isn't working14:51
dragonbitecodenamepod: I don't know if this would  work => sudo update-grub14:51
EriC^^codenamepod: you sure? it's working here14:52
LeftFootBrakerdragonbite: they did that14:52
dragonbitemust have been before i got in, sorry14:52
codenamepodworking14:53
hgtyis there any dark gtk3 theme for ubuntu?14:53
lotuspsychje!themes | hgty14:53
ubottuhgty: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy14:53
hgtyno 3rd party sites14:54
hgtyrepos only14:54
DiamondSwordhello #ubuntu .. my computer started to warm up a lot after I installed the Ubuntu.. it wasn't like this when I was on Windows.. what might be the problem ?14:55
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DiamondSwordthe pc doesn't shut itself because of the high temperature yet but it's really high right now..14:56
codenamepodEriC^^ done. Now?14:56
hgtyso why there is only 2 themes in ubuntu repo?14:56
EriC^^codenamepod: try update-grub14:56
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codenamepoddone14:56
EriC^^did it mention windows?14:56
hgtyeven adwaita was removed, i don't understand14:57
nacchgty: what version of ubuntu14:57
hgty15.1014:57
puredynamohello, i'm experiencing some much longer boot times than normally and don't really know how to read the dmesg logs to figure out what the culprit, could anyone give me some guidance?14:58
codenamepodNo. Instead: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 276: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: /etc/grub.d/40_custom: not found14:58
nacchgty: isn't adwaita-icon-theme-full what you were looking for?14:58
EriC^^codenamepod: type cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 999914:58
lotuspsychjepuredynamo: ubuntu version? when did this start to happen14:59
nacchgty: or for more than the icons, gnome-themes-standard which says it is "Adwaita"14:59
codenamepodhttp://termbin.com/bpt314:59
puredynamolotuspsychje: 15.10 for ubuntu-mate, the last thing i did was upgrade the kernel from 4.2 to 4.4 then noticed my touch pad wasn't working so i added some stuff to the grub command line, i can see that most entries finish within 7 seconds, then there is a large jump to 90 seconds15:00
EriC^^codenamepod: it looks fine15:00
codenamepodSo? I should boot?15:01
EriC^^codenamepod: no, update-grub didn't work15:01
EriC^^codenamepod: try to delete those lines, and put them in a file in /boot/grub/custom.cfg15:01
codenamepodok15:01
lotuspsychjepuredynamo: upgraded kernel only, or to 16.04?15:02
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hgtyi see15:02
puredynamolotuspsychje: only the kernel, infact it was booting quickly even after i changed the kernel, but once i changed the stuff in grub it became slow, even when i remove the commands now the boot is slower15:03
puredynamolotuspsychje: these are the last few lines15:03
puredynamolotuspsychje: [    7.164678] wlp3s0: associated [    7.164686] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlp3s0: link becomes ready [   92.206115] Non-volatile memory driver v1.3 [   92.312909] ahci 0000:00:17.0: port does not support device sleep [   93.195381] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [   93.195390] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [   93.195395] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.1115:03
lotuspsychjepuredynamo: try boot a previous kernel again? see if it still boot slow?15:04
puredynamolotuspsychje: i've tried that too and it still is the same, so i'm not really sure what i changed to make it boot weirdly15:05
codenamepodEric^^ done.15:05
EriC^^codenamepod: try update-grub15:06
EriC^^it won't mention windows but it should work15:06
codenamepodYes. But again, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 276: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: /etc/grub.d/40_custom: not found15:07
EriC^^codenamepod: type ls -l /etc/grub.d | nc termbin.com 999915:08
codenamepodls -l /etc/grub.d | nc termbin.com 999915:09
codenamepodhttp://termbin.com/r5se15:09
darkosserver irc.lirex.com15:09
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 999915:09
codenamepodhttp://termbin.com/ul8s15:10
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, how did you edit the 40_custom file?15:10
EriC^^sudo nano ?15:11
codenamepodyes15:11
EriC^^ok, try rm /etc/grub.d/40_custom15:11
EriC^^then update-grub15:11
codenamepodfinished with no errors15:12
codenamepodbut still no mention of win1015:12
EriC^^ok, type nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom15:12
EriC^^add the lines that go there15:12
EriC^^http://paste.ubuntu.com/15671340/15:13
EriC^^add those ^ then save and type chmod +x /etc/grub.d/40_custom15:13
EriC^^and try to update-grub again15:13
NegativeIQHey guys, i need some serious help with my VPS. My boot sector is at 100% used memory and i just cant do anything with apt-get. Any useful links to these problem? Im googling for past 30 minutes and didnt find anything i could try...15:14
EriC^^NegativeIQ: you mean boot partition, anyways try sudo apt-get autoremove first15:15
NegativeIQyeah tried that15:16
codenamepodEriC^^: done15:16
EriC^^codenamepod: update-grub worked?15:16
NegativeIQclean, autoclean, purge, install -f everything...15:16
EriC^^NegativeIQ: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 999915:16
krono_hi all! I can't join any channels. I'm getting the error "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services." How do I identify? I forget. Sorry I haven't used IRC in years :D15:17
codenamepodntldr not found15:17
somsip!register | krono_15:17
ubottukrono_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode15:17
NegativeIQbash type -l not found15:17
EriC^^krono_: you need to register a nickname first ( /nickserv register <password> <email> )15:17
codenamepodAnd unexpected }15:17
krono_!register | krono_15:17
ubottukrono_, please see my private message15:17
krono_ok thanks :)15:18
EriC^^NegativeIQ: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 999915:18
EriC^^(without the type at the start)15:18
NegativeIQhttp://termbin.com/y8cl15:18
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NegativeIQ!register15:18
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode15:18
EriC^^codenamepod: 40_custom doesn't have the menuentry does it?15:18
NegativeIQ!register | NegativeIQ15:18
ubottuNegativeIQ, please see my private message15:18
EriC^^NegativeIQ: uname -r15:19
_max_does anyone have experience iwth running fai-project under ubuntu?15:19
codenamepodEriC^^ only the one I put there15:19
NegativeIQ3.13.0-68-generic15:19
NegativeIQ3.13.0-68-generic15:19
EriC^^codenamepod: remove the menuentry and leave it default as like here http://paste.ubuntu.com/15671340/15:19
EriC^^NegativeIQ: ok, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-70-generic15:20
NegativeIQError15:21
NegativeIQE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)15:21
NegativeIQthat is the last line15:21
codenamepodActually It hadn't exec tail -n +3 $0 added to it. Added that and it returned no error. But still no windows15:21
EriC^^codenamepod: ok, type exit15:22
EriC^^then try to restart, and hold shift to get grub, there should be a windows there15:23
EriC^^codenamepod: oh wait15:23
EriC^^1 sec15:23
codenamepodyes15:23
BlessJahI'm trying to setup PXE boot using iso as local repository. Debian-installer tries to contact my repo (/cdrom/dists exposed via http) and succeds to find dists/trusty, bet then tries trusty-updates which is not available on cd and hangs when it receives 40415:23
EriC^^codenamepod: type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda15:23
codenamepodgrub-install: error: cannot open directory `/boot/grub/i386-pc': No such file or directory.15:24
codenamepodEriC^^15:24
BlessJahhow should I proceed?15:24
EriC^^codenamepod: try apt-get install --reinstall grub215:24
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EriC^^codenamepod: try apt-get install --reinstall grub2 grub-common grub2-common grub-gfxpayload-lists15:25
codenamepodReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package grub2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it:   grub-pc-bin grub-pc grub-ieee1275-bin grub-ieee1275 grub-efi-ia32-bin   grub-efi-ia32 grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-15:26
EriC^^codenamepod: try apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc grub-common grub2-common grub-gfxpayload-lists15:27
codenamepodEriC^^ done15:27
EriC^^ok, if there are no errors type exit and try rebooting15:28
codenamepodJust a warning: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults15:28
codenamepodIt shouldn't be no problem15:29
EriC^^ok15:29
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CaffeineAddictI have a simple shell script but dont know how to get it to do what I want ... how do I accomplish the following15:30
CaffeineAddictfoo='bar'15:30
CaffeineAddictsed -i 's/toReplace/$foo/g' /somefile15:30
tewardCaffeineAddict: the ' ' will break that being filled in15:30
deepan+Z15:31
CaffeineAddictteward: yes, I know what I put doesnt work ... question is how do I accomplish that basic idea15:31
tewardCaffeineAddict: sed 's/toReplace/'$foo'/g' /somefile15:31
tewarduse that sed instead15:31
deepanany 1 there?15:31
CaffeineAddictteward: ty15:32
tewardCaffeineAddict: provided that 'foo' doesn't contain spaces...15:32
tewardCaffeineAddict: if 'foo' will ever have spaces in it, I don't think this'll work ever15:32
CaffeineAddictteward: thank you15:32
deepanhow to create OS?15:32
EriC^^CaffeineAddict: you want it to actually use what's inside of $foo right?15:33
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EriC^^CaffeineAddict: sed -i 's@toreplace@$foo@g' /somefile15:33
tewardah, nice, I learned something about sed today :)15:34
tewardEriC^^: ^ :)15:34
EriC^^teward: :)15:34
Xano/usr/local/bin/ansible exists on my system, but I do not know how I once installed it (I need to know because I need to upgrade it). It's not installed through apt or pip. Any suggestions?15:34
tewardEriC^^: in pure theory, would this approach work?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15671844/   (asking for personal knowledge)15:35
BlessJahcan I make debian-installer not to use trusty-updates repo during install?15:35
naccXano: probably from source?15:35
EriC^^teward: i think so, minus the typo next to sedreg15:36
Xanonacc, Could be. This is my first main Linux machine. How does one confirm something was built from source, and how would one upgrade it? Just grab a newer version of the source and build that over the old version?15:37
tewardEriC^^: typo-correction would be great :P15:37
tewardEriC^^: but yeah, was curious, I learned something anyways :015:37
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EriC^^same here :D15:37
naccXano: not a good way; one assumes that if you did install from source (you did that as root), you did know what you were doing :)15:38
Xanonacc, One would assume, yes :) I don't know if I installed from source, and if I did, I may indeed have messed up.15:39
Xano*but if15:39
lionelmessi5102Guys, will Lubuntu 16.04 come with LXQt DE?15:41
EriC^^doesn't it already?15:41
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naccXano: it's hard to say, tbh; but /usr/local is a good hint15:41
_max_i try to build a ubunut nfsroot from/with "trusty archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"  and i get a "not configured" error for udev, plymouth and initramfs-tools depending on udev, but if i manually try to install udev on 14.04 i have no problems15:42
tewardlionelmessi5102: #ubuntu+1, or #Lubuntu15:42
teward!16.04 | lionelmessi510215:42
ubottulionelmessi5102: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released on April 21st. Discussion in #ubuntu+115:42
EriC^^lionelmessi5102: oh it looks like it'll be in 16.0415:42
EriC^^lionelmessi5102: more info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt15:43
Knoodleok... i am trying again to ask some help15:43
Xanonacc, Ah of course :) That makes sense.15:43
Knoodlei need someone to explain me how to make a bios update with uefi capsule15:43
Knoodletnank you15:43
EriC^^lionelmessi5102: also join the channels teward mentioned for more info15:43
_max_anyone has an idea why that could be?15:44
EriC^^Knoodle: uefi capsule means uefi shell?15:44
EriC^^you are french?15:44
Knoodlei dont know15:44
Knoodleuefi capsule firmware update15:44
Knoodlesomeone told me about that15:44
Xanonacc, I think you're right and I followed http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/intro_installation.html#running-from-source. That would explain why Ansible's Pyhton module dependencies could be uninstalled through Pip without Pip having installed Ansible itself15:45
naccXano: yeah that makes sense15:45
EriC^^Knoodle: you're trying to update your uefi ?15:45
Knoodlei am trying to update my bios15:46
Knoodlemy firmware of my lenovo B50-1015:46
EriC^^Knoodle: uefi means bios too15:46
Xanonacc, Alright, thanks!15:46
Knoodlewell.. whatever15:46
Knoodlei guess uefi it's another kind of boot firmware15:46
EriC^^yeah it's the "new bios"15:47
EriC^^why are you trying to update it though?15:47
Knoodlei need to flash my pc bios... but they give me only the .exe file to do it... and i cant install windows15:47
Knoodlebecause my pc freeze at the shutdown or reboot15:47
r0b-whats an easier way to share files between Ubuntu and Windows?15:47
r0b-Samba does not want to work with W1015:47
EriC^^Knoodle: did you try the usual acpi stuff?15:48
Knoodleand i ve tryed to change the grub settings but nothing changed15:48
Knoodleyes15:48
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Knoodlethe only good thing is the had disk stops.. but not the rest of the hardware...15:48
Knoodleso for example i cant reboot the pc... or i can not put it to sleep closing the lid15:49
EriC^^Knoodle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate15:50
Knoodlei ve found on the forum that it's a typical issue for the bios update15:50
EriC^^Knoodle: it says lenovo provide bootable iso's to update it15:51
KnoodleEric15:52
Knoodlethinkadvantage link is broken15:52
Knoodleand anyway doesnt seem a solution to update bios15:53
EriC^^yeah15:54
EriC^^i just read installing the latest 4.4 kernel could work15:54
Knoodlethat's why someone on this channel suggested me to do it thru uefi capsule15:54
EriC^^you as well?15:54
EriC^^i dunno what that is15:54
EriC^^try sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial15:54
Knoodleit means you can use an update capsule file15:56
Knoodleit is a .cap15:56
EriC^^yeah but they said the bios upgrade doesn't seem to work15:56
EriC^^http://askubuntu.com/questions/707797/ubuntu-15-10-wont-shut-down-or-reboot15:56
Knoodlethis uefi capsule format15:56
DirtyCajunin my mind there is no way to build a dhcp server without 2 ethernet ports correct?15:57
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rogoHallo. how can I undo next command:  sudo apt-get install desurium        ?15:57
EriC^^rogo: sudo apt-get purge desurium15:57
Knoodleeric so i shall try to install new kernel?15:58
EriC^^yes15:58
EriC^^also install the lts-xenial xorg stack15:58
Knoodleexcuse me... how can i do that?15:59
rogothx16:00
EriC^^Knoodle: i dont know, i only seem to find the lts-wily stuff with apt search16:00
EriC^^i guess try the kernel first and later ask what to do about that or if it's unnecessary16:01
Knoodlehmmm16:01
Knoodleyes... how can i download the new kernel? and is it gonna working on ubuntu 15.10?16:01
joaoHello16:02
EriC^^Knoodle: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial16:02
EriC^^it should work16:02
joaoGuys I have a question regarding upstart16:02
Knoodleok16:03
KnoodleE: Unable to locate package linux-generic-lts-xenial16:03
joaoThis upstart process meteorS start/running, process 32050 is in a zombie state . Something happened before forking .16:03
joaoAnd now I cant kill it using the PID16:03
tewardEriC^^: i don't think that exists until post-release16:03
tewardif ever16:03
Knoodleso... any solutions?16:04
tewardoh, huh, it doeds16:04
tewarddoes*16:04
joaocan you guys see my messages ? I am new to irc.16:04
Knoodleto build it up?16:04
tewardKnoodle: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial16:04
EriC^^teward: yeah16:04
tewardif you really want it16:04
EriC^^Knoodle: try teward's commands16:05
tewardjoao: patience is a virtue; yes we can see your posts, but you need patience16:05
Knoodledoesnt work16:05
Knoodlesame error16:05
joaoOh okay no problem16:05
joaoI was just wondering16:05
EriC^^Knoodle: which ubuntu are you on?16:05
tewardjoao: zombie processes are just those - they can't be killed.  A system reboot will probably clear it out16:05
EriC^^teward: you are on 14.04?16:05
tewardKnoodle: are you on Ubuntu Trusty?16:05
joaoThere is a script that fixed it16:05
tewardEriC^^: yep, I always LTS except in testing envs.16:05
joao14.0416:05
joaoI tried to use this ruby script https://github.com/ion1/workaround-upstart-snafu that is supposedly a way to fix it.16:06
joaoBut the upstart daemon respawns the process under a new PID.16:06
Knoodlehmm16:06
Knoodlei dont remember16:06
tewardEriC^^: apt-cache shows it under trusty-updates, trusty-security, so... *shrugs*16:06
Knoodlehow do i check?16:06
tewardKnoodle: lsb_release -a16:07
KnoodleWily16:07
tewardKnoodle: the lts kernels are only backported to the LTS16:07
tewardthat is, Trusty16:07
tewardnot Wily16:07
tewardKnoodle: you're on 15.10, you'll have to wait for Xenial release if you want to upgrade to a stable release to get that kernel16:08
tewardKnoodle: so, linux-generic-lts-xenial is only for Trusty16:08
tewardnot Wily16:08
joaoI tried another script that used usleep but usleep was not defined in bash16:08
joaoIs that normal16:08
joaoSaid command not found .16:08
Knoodleso what do you suggest?16:08
Knoodleon the other disk partition i have debian Jessie installed and... same problem16:09
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Bonn333Hello16:09
Knoodlethat's why i wanted to update the firmware16:09
EriC^^Knoodle: try kernel 4.416:10
Knoodleyes. but how?16:10
tewardKnoodle: not available for Wily16:10
doushtakograb it off github16:10
tewardat least, AFAIK16:10
Knoodleido i i should install another release of ubuntu?16:11
EriC^^!mainline | Knoodle16:11
ubottuKnoodle: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds16:11
teward^ that though16:11
pnwiseHow do I enable java in chromium?16:11
DeruniGuys how can I join with my nicserv account?16:11
pnwiseI have installed icedtea, but the plugin is not visible in about:plugins16:11
EriC^^Knoodle: if it all works out, you can install ubuntu 16.04 in a few weeks once it's out16:11
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Knoodlei hope so16:12
joaoIs there any alternative to usleep? For some reason usleep is not found16:13
joaoWhen i run a bash script16:13
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doushtakoKnoodle, what are you trying to fix or what do you need in the newer kernels16:13
Knoodleok. i am gonna have a look at the link16:13
Knoodlebecause my laptop freeze on shutdown or reboot or closing the lid16:13
fallencl0udyo! I'm trying to install any linux distro (I've tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux Mint, and Korora) and I'm having trouble booting into the installer. (K)Ubuntu goes to a screen that's mostly black, but pops back on with really corrupted visuals. LMint goes to software rendering mode, and Korora doesn't even load a GUI. They all say, in the terminal as they're booting: "amdgpu: Invalid ROM contents" I have an R9 380, what can I do 16:14
Knoodleand it's a big pain in the ass for a laptop.. i always need to force shutdown16:14
doushtakoKnoodle, have you tried checking the logs to see if a process is hanging?16:14
Knoodlenothing interesting16:14
Knoodleand i see it is a typical problem on google16:15
doushtakook16:15
Knoodlei thought i could fix it with a bios update16:15
pbxhow can i get my wifi to auto-enable on wake (14.04)?16:15
EriC^^joao: i think sleep takes microseconds16:15
Knoodlebut i didnt imagine it would takes 2 days to do it :)16:15
joaoI think I am going to switch to init.d16:16
EriC^^joao: oh it doesn't, nevermind16:16
joaoUpstart still has a bug where processes hang16:16
joaoUnable to be kiled or stopped16:16
doushtakoKnoodle, if you want the newer/newest kernel, hit up github, and compile the source from there.16:16
joaohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/40639716:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 406397 in upstart "init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child" [Medium,Triaged]16:17
doushtakoSee if that fixes the issue16:17
Knoodlei will try16:17
Knoodlethanks so much.. gotta go16:17
Knoodletalk u later16:17
doushtakoGood luck!!16:17
mikecmpbllugh, iptables make my brain hurt. i've ran iptables -F, added rules to allow my SSH access, then enabled ufw and it's booted me out of SSH16:23
mikecmpbllon inspecting iptables -L -v, (with my limited knowledge) it seems like the flush has gotten rid of the INPUT rules that reference the ufw-before- ufw-after, etc16:24
mikecmpblland the default policy of DROP is not allowing me access16:24
mikecmpbllhow do I get those back (if that's what's needed?)16:25
tewardmikecmpbll: ufw disable; ufw enable16:26
tewardmikecmpbll: then add your SSH allow rule via ufw16:26
tewardnot via iptables directly16:26
tewardmikecmpbll: either use ufw, or iptables; i don't recommend using both to achieve things.16:27
mikecmpblli've only ever been using ufw.16:27
mikecmpbll(since installing it)16:27
mikecmpblli had some old rules that i added with iptables that i wanted to get rid of before enabling ufw16:27
tewardenabling ufw clears out the rules in iptables, and adds its own, last I checked16:28
BluesKajmikecmpbll, join #Netfilter if you need help with iptables' settings16:29
mikecmpbllBlessJah : okidokes, thanks16:29
pegomarhola16:30
Bonn333pegomar: hi16:31
mikecmpbllthe folks in #netfilter weren't best pleased about a ufw question16:33
fallencl0udhas anyone else had bugs using newer AMD GPUs (like the R9 380) with Ubuntu? I can't even boot to the installation16:34
BluesKajdo you get the grub bootloader, fallencl0ud?16:36
arx_Hi, please has anybody ever run Adobe Acrobat XI Pro on ReactOS virtualized within VirtualBox running on Ubuntu? Does Acrobat run? Any issues? The folks at ReactOS don't know. Unfortunaly, Wine cannot help with Acrobat.16:37
fallencl0udI get to grub and the boot screen but after that it goes black16:37
MonkeyDustarx_  reactOS? what's the output of   cat /etc/issue?16:40
BluesKajfallencl0ud, most likely UEFI boot doesn't have grub installed if your machine is newer than 201016:41
arx_Monkey: I'm about to try it. Have not begin yet. I'm asking because doing the vbox/reactOS setup seems like quite a toil. I wanted to know if it is worth the hassle. Acrobat is the last chain tying me to Windows :(16:42
sine0hi there i have an issue where firefox or any web browser in ubuntu will after a short while stop resolving addresses untill i restart the browser....16:43
ikoniadoes the system stop being able to resolve ?16:43
sine0I dont know i have not tried it i just tried pinging the website to get a response16:43
sine0which is fine.16:43
sine0how can i check that via cli16:44
Luka00Hello people...does anyone know if Lurch can draw the table Ruffini?16:44
sine0nc website 8016:44
rob0dig(1) is the best tool for checking DNS.16:44
ikoniasine0: if you can ping - it's resolving16:45
sine0so what could just be affecting my browser then16:45
fallencl0udBluesKaj: wait what do you mean? I have the amd64 iso, my BIOS is in legacy mode (since I have Win7 installed)16:49
skaOn Server 15, I installed minimal server on KVM. Grub seems to fail. I get a funky rectangle on top of boot screen and nothing happens.16:50
skaIs there any way to fix or repair that?16:51
rob0Anyway, I came here from #Netfilter (a/k/a #iptables via channel redirect).  We regularly get people who want help with ufw, but we won't support ufw there.16:51
rob0Please don't send ufw questions to us, thanks.16:51
skaIs there some issue with spash screens?16:51
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naccska: what is "server 15"? 15.04 or 15.10?16:52
tewardrob0: as I told you, use either ufw OR iptables.  Don't use both.  Set your ssh rule inside of ufw, then it'll be available when ufw is enabled.16:52
rob0hmm?16:52
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tewardoop wrong person sorry16:53
tewardrob0: i confused you with someone else :)16:53
tewardsorry16:53
tewardBluesKaj: ufw != netfilter :P16:53
ska15.10 I think.16:53
rob0yes, I am here to ask that #ubuntu stop sending ufw questions to #Netfilter :)16:53
skanacc: 15.1016:53
bartosz_hello, I have problem with ubuntu, sometimes I need to reboot the machine 5 times16:53
bartosz_to start linux16:54
bartosz_I mean it is working, but my screen doesn't turn on16:54
yoylohello my pc is tripping i think hacked can somebody help me16:54
BluesKajfallencl0ud, ok so it is a gpu problem most likely. Have you run linux on this machine previously or is the gpu new hardware or some such16:54
bartosz_I had also this problem in kubuntu, but I was typing password blindly and probabaly video driver was reseted and it worked16:55
bartosz_on xfce I cant16:55
fallencl0udBluesKaj: brand new computer I just built last month, win7 runs fine and I want to install linux but every distro I've thrown at it so far just fails16:55
naccska: so ... your kvm guest is failing to start up?16:55
BlueProtomanHelp!  I can't log in to my Ubuntu 15.10 installation graphically!  When I try, I'm just booted to a TTY login screen (I'm writing this in irssi).  I have a nVidia GeForce 520M/Intel HD 5000 combo via Optimus.  It was working just fine until last night, and I have no idea why it decided to break.  Help!16:55
fallencl0udI'm tempted to try hooking up my TV to an HDMI out (since the current display is DVI-I to VGA to a 1440x900 moniter, so perhaps it's freaking out at the oddness of my display setup)16:56
ioria!nomodeset | fallencl0ud16:56
ubottufallencl0ud: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:56
yoyloubuntu 15.10 doesn't works long16:56
skanacc: yea I install 2 times, one with XFS and other using default Ext4 partition. Each time it boots and shows a purble screen with a thin rectange at top with dotted pattern.16:57
skanacc: It only booted once for me.16:58
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BluesKajfallencl0ud, seems your graphics card is probly too new, I don't see many positive remarks about it for linux in the forums17:09
tyler_danyone successful at mirroring android to ubuntu?17:14
tyler_dnot using adb17:14
nareshnknaresh@naresh-HCL-Desktop:/var/www/html$ php composer.phar create-project --prefer-dist cakephp/app matrimonial ................ Cannot create cache directory /home/naresh/.composer/cache/repo/https---packagist.org/, or directory is not writable. Proceeding without cache"17:19
nareshnkWhy i am getting this issue ?17:19
ikoniabecause you don't have permissions to write to that directory ?17:19
tyler_dbecause the directory"cache" or "repo" or  ".composer" doesn't exist17:20
ikoniaI suspect it's because he's in the apache document root17:21
ikoniawhich is not writeable by non-privileged users17:21
nacccomposer defaults to using $HOME, it looks like17:22
naccthe error is about /home/naresh/.composer/cache/repo/https---packagist.org/17:22
naccnareshnk: what level of ubuntu?17:22
ikoniayes, I see what you mean nacc17:22
pbxif my rhythmbox key shortcuts stopped working, but menu command equivalents still do... what might that be?17:23
pbx14.0417:23
fantazhi is the 16.04 running with MIR? Or is it still X server?17:23
nareshnknacc,  ubuntu1417:24
EriC^^fantaz: still xorg17:24
naccnareshnk: 14.04?17:25
Nairwolfhi, Tuesday, I had a Linux update, and after that, I can't boot on my Xubuntu 14.04. Before the update, I had the package linux-headers-3.13.0-83, and now, I have linux-headers-3.13.0-85. I can't boot with the version 85, but I can boot with 83. Do you know what I can do ? Maybe prevent the kernel to be updated ?17:25
ikoniathe headers won't stop you booting17:25
NairwolfWhen I'm saying I can't boot, it's that my screen stay black. Maybe it's something related with a graphical driver ?17:25
ikoniaplease define "won't boot"17:25
fantazEriC^^: does MIR have any ETA?17:26
ikoniaNairwolf: nvidia ?17:26
ikoniafantaz: hopefully never17:26
EriC^^fantaz: 16.10 i think17:26
EriC^^ikonia: haha17:26
fantazwhy never? shouldnt it be better than X?17:26
ikoniabecause canonical should stop doing it's own thing with mir and assist with wayland17:26
fantazgot you :)17:27
fantazi agree17:27
Nairwolfikonia: it's the same for linux-image and linux-signd-image. I have actually two version. 3.13.0-83 and 85. With grub, I can boot with the version 83, but I can't with the version 8517:27
ikoniaNairwolf: nvidia ?17:27
fantazbut some kind of "competition" is always good I think17:28
Nairwolfno, I don't think so. I don't remember how to have this information17:28
ikoniafantaz: nope, wasted development time on something for no-one other than canonical17:28
NairwolfI know it's ls something17:28
ikoniaNairwolf: lspci will show you the pci devices, including your video card17:28
l3h4#ubuntu-it17:28
l3h4hi, how can i enter in the italian chat of ubuntu help?17:29
ikonial3h4: /join #ubuntu-it17:29
Picil3h4: type /join #ubuntu-it17:29
newwwwwwwwwwwwwHello, I have the following script does not work http://askubuntu.com/a/69763117:30
ikonianewwwwwwwwwwwww: please explain your problem clearly,17:30
Nairwolfikonia : How it's called ? VGA ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15675167/17:31
NairwolfI think it's line 3, no ? VGA compatible controller17:31
ikoniaNairwolf: intel looks good, thats a bit odd17:31
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Nairwolfindeed17:31
ikoniaNairwolf: clear down the xorg log, boot into the "broken" kernel and have a look at the xorg log (either via a remote session or reboot into single user mode)17:32
ikoniayou may get an idea what's going on then17:32
Nairwolfikonia: you need to help me, I don't know what is the xorg log ?17:32
ikoniaNairwolf: it's a text file that shows what's going on with your X server (display server) it's held in /var/log17:33
newwwwwwwwwwwwwikonia: i tried this script to mute sound after disconnect headphones(aux), but sound dont muted17:33
ikonianewwwwwwwwwwwww: does the commands in the script work manually ?17:33
newwwwwwwwwwwwwikonia: i tried change su [USER] -c "DISPLAY=:0 xdotool key XF86AudioMute" to chromium & and see systemctl status acpid.service , chromium launch but dont show17:35
ikonianewwwwwwwwwwwww: then your commands don't work - so if you're commands don't work, what's the point of scripting it17:35
newwwwwwwwwwwwwxdotool key XF86AudioMute work17:36
Nairwolfok, Xorg logs are removed, I will reboot on the new kernel17:36
newwwwwwwwwwwwwbut dont work in script file17:36
ANikhow to change lampp folder permissions ?17:36
ikoniaANik: the permissions tab in your file manager or chmod17:37
Nairwolfok, this is my xOrg log : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15675329/17:38
ikoniaNairwolf: looks quite happy, bit of a mess in autodetecting your screen it would seem, but nothing to panic about17:39
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ikoniaintereting, it's using kms on the intel module ???17:39
ikoniainteresting too17:39
Nairwolfindeed, I don't see the something to worry...17:39
ikoniaI've never seen this on intel cards (I didn't realise it was using kms) but it maybe worth a look17:40
ikonia!nomodeset | Nairwolf17:40
ubottuNairwolf: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:40
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ikoniaNairwolf: never seen that needed on intel before, but looking at the probe it's doing for mode set and it's using kms (after you've changed kernels) it maybe worth checking17:41
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Nairwolfwhat do you mean by "looking at the probe ?"17:43
Nairwolfso, are you saying my configuration is weird, or not usual ?17:43
NairwolfI don't have touched that. Maybe I should check on the old kernel if I use kms also17:43
Nairwolfwhat is weird is I've already launched more advanced version of linux kernel (with xubuntu 15.10 or even 16.04) with a usb-live. And it worked. Why there is a change right now with this kernel update ?17:44
ikoniaNairwolf: a more advanced version of the kernel ?17:46
Nairwolfwith Ubuntu 16.04, it's linux 4.x for example17:47
ikoniawhat has that got to do with anything ?17:47
ikoniaor am I missing your point ?17:47
BluesKajnot another user fixated on kernel versions that will solve all their problems....17:49
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Nairwolfyes, you said it's something unusual. And it could be the cause of my blank screen. I've understood you suspect the configuration of something related to my screen, and GPU card is caused by this update. I've understood you suspect something has changed between the update. And as I've tried more advanced version on linux on the same desktop (linux 4.X), if they use now KMS, I don't understand why it worked17:51
Nairwolfwith 4.X and why it doesn't work right now.17:51
rekols_Hello17:52
rekols_A U OK?17:52
rekols_hi17:52
rekols_how do you do.17:52
k1l_hi17:52
hadobadoboguys how do i copy a file into the dir that might exist, how do i create all this subdirs?  for example:  cp /dir/that/exist/file.jpg /dir/that/doesn/t/exits/file.jpg17:53
rob0If I was doing any better I'd have to sit on both hands, to keep from clapping.17:53
rekols_Not Sleeping?17:53
witm55@hadobadobo I usually use mkdir -p on the whole path - after that, you can copy there17:53
rekols_oh.17:54
witm55mkdir -p creates any in-between-folders that do not yet exist17:54
ouroumov__hadobadobo, use mkdir -p, then cp17:54
hadobadoboouroumov__: i17:55
hadobadoboouroumov__: i'm writing a batch script17:55
hadobadoboouroumov__: that would be problematic17:55
ikoniaNairwolf: because it works on 4 has nothing to do with if it works on your current version17:55
EriC^^hadobadobo: cp -r copies recursively17:55
EriC^^hadobadobo: cp -r /dir /newplace17:56
devslashis Ubuntu 16.04 locked from any new changes between now and when it will be released later this month ?17:56
dbuggerHey fellas, I have problem with logitech unifyier and Solaar. I can see both devices paired, but I just get info on the mouse. Why is that?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/754925/solaar-not-showing-me-the-status-of-my-keyboard-k52017:56
witm55hadobadobo, no it wouldn't - that script can spawn towo places17:56
EriC^^copies everything and the subdirs as well17:56
ikoniadevslash: what sort of changs ?17:56
ikoniachanges17:56
ikoniait's in feature/package freeze for a while now17:56
devslashi dunno anything17:56
devslashthats what I meant17:56
witm55EriC^^, that's not his problems - his target directory structure is not there17:56
daxikonia: (they're in #ubuntu+1, better to continue there)17:56
witm55hadobadobo, why not use rsync instead?17:56
Nairwolfok, Ikonia ;)17:56
Nairwolfsomething weird, with the broken kernel. I can't access to the console (without X server) by doing usually ctrl+alt+f117:57
witm55hadobadobo, rsync usually creates his targets.... but really, put two lines into the script, one with mkdir -p, one with cp17:57
Nairwolfso, can I supposed it's not only related with a graphical issue ?17:57
devslashon the downloads page theres a link to Ubuntu cloud server. what is the purpose of that Ubuntu variant exactly ?17:57
EriC^^Nairwolf: you can use the latest kernel on your 14.0418:00
EriC^^Nairwolf: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial (gives you 4.4)18:00
syadmin_Hello. I am using tftpboot. How can I make sure the daemon is running as root? Apparently he can't write to its folder even with chmod 77718:00
NairwolfEriC^^ : I'm running on 14.04. I'm not supposed to have lts-xenial kernel...18:01
NairwolfAnd I'm afraid if I do that, I'm afraid to not be able to upgrade my system correctly later18:01
EriC^^Nairwolf: it's a hwe stack though18:02
Pici!hew18:02
Pici!hwe18:02
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack18:02
Nairwolfsorry, what is hwe ?18:03
EriC^^hardware enablement18:03
nexus1need help18:10
Picinexus1: with?18:10
nexus1thanks! Sorry, am somewhat of a begineer18:11
nexus1installing nipap and  need to do the following18:11
nexus1Then, add a new virtual host or configure the default one with the line:  WSGIScriptAlias / /etc/nipap/nipap-www.wsgi18:11
nexus1to bring the URL up18:11
nexus1https://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/docs/config-www.html18:11
nexus1any help would be appreciated18:12
Picinexus1: presumably they want you to modify your apache2 site file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf18:13
nexus1not sure where I am supposed to wite that line18:13
nexus1standby Pici18:13
nexus1PICI, where would I add that line at the bottom?18:14
Picinexus1: within the VirtualHost definition18:15
stalkeruahello18:15
TAFBCan anyone help me fix my Ubuntu VPS with "Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a window manager" and I'm missing the buttons like minimize, etc. Using TightVNC to connect in.18:15
nexus1PICI, where exactly?18:17
reisioTAFB: you might want to run a non-accelerated wm18:17
TAFBwm?18:17
TAFBoh, window manager :)18:17
stalkeruaare there any socks5 server with authorization which supported in ubuntu now?18:17
reisioTAFB: might try 'mutter' first (mutter --replace)18:17
k1l_TAFB: do you need a desktop running on a server at all? usually one manages a server with ssh.18:18
stalkeruai tried to use: hpsock, SS5, dante-server : everything is outdayted now and not supported by ubuntu-stable18:19
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nexus1hi <Pici> are you still there?18:19
reisionexus1: /whois Pici Pici18:20
reisiosays idle 5 hours, likely still in bed18:20
stalkeruawhen i am trying to compile outdated sources -  i am getting errors that i need to install outdated libs which are not supported now18:20
TAFBk1l_: I use it to run Wine for some windows programs :(18:20
nexus1the guy who was answering my question18:21
Picinexus1: something like this:18:21
k1l_TAFB: uh. are you sure there is no linux alternative to that?18:21
nexus1basically I am trying to add a line:18:21
nexus1apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi Then, add a new virtual host or configure the default one with the line:  WSGIScriptAlias / /etc/nipap/nipap-www.wsgi18:21
nexus1any help would be great18:21
TAFBI use a special program called tubedigger (to capture live streams). I've tried LOTS of (non-linux) capture software and nothing else has worked.18:21
k1l_!streamripper18:22
k1l_!info streamripper18:22
ubottustreamripper (source: streamripper): download online streams into audio files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.64.6-1 (wily), package size 90 kB, installed size 224 kB18:22
stalkeruaso any advices about apt-get install socks5-server-with-authorisation-2016 ?18:22
hoangtuanhello18:23
ubuntu-mateI have a problem with MATE it says  Failed to insert module 'kdbus': function not implemented18:24
k1l_!info rtmpdump | TAFB that seems to be a video stream alternative18:24
TAFBreisio: (mutter:3755): mutter-ERROR **: Unable to initialize Clutter.18:24
ubottuTAFB that seems to be a video stream alternative: rtmpdump (source: rtmpdump): small dumper for media content streamed over the RTMP protocol. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4+20150115.gita107cef-1build1 (wily), package size 41 kB, installed size 154 kB18:24
TAFBk1l_: does it support authentication where you have to sign into a website to get the stream?18:24
k1l_TAFB: hmm, i dont know that18:25
reisioTAFB: mmm, maybe try with a simpler wm like openbox, then18:25
TAFBthat's usually where most capture software fails for me :( tubedigger is actually a web browser, so you can sign in and stuff and as soon as it start paying a video you can capture it.18:25
reisioTAFB: I'm sure it supports it, but rtmpdump is just a commandline app18:26
reisionot a big turnkey graphical app18:26
ubuntu-mateIs ubuntu mate broken?18:26
reisioubuntu-mate: you tell us18:26
ubuntu-mateapparantly18:26
ubuntu-matemate does not load correctly18:27
k1l_ubuntu-mate: yes, no, maybe? :)18:27
k1l_ubuntu-mate: what exactly doesnt work?18:27
ubuntu-matethe bars are white18:27
ubuntu-matei cant open appearances18:27
ubuntu-mateit gives an error18:28
hgtyubuntu-mate: which error?18:29
petermorehello18:29
Bonn333petermore: Hi18:29
petermorehello bonn33318:29
petermorei want delete one documento of sources.list18:30
SayonaHi, Ubuntu 15.10 is stable?18:30
ubuntu-mateUnable to start the settings manager 'mate-settings-daemon'. Without the MATE settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with DBus, or a non-MATE (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the MATE settings manager.18:30
petermoredo you know how i can do it¿?18:30
ratraceSayona: what do you mean by "stable"? Did you mean Long Term Support?18:31
Sayonayes18:31
SayonaI want to put this version on my laptop18:31
qqqqqsjoin #fugazigr18:31
MonkeyDustSayona  16.04 is LTS and will soon be released18:31
ratraceSayona: then no, 16.04 is LTS18:31
Bonn333Ubuntu 15.10 isn't an LTS release18:31
TAFBok, I installed openbox. How do I tell Ubuntu to use it when I connect with TightVNC?18:31
SayonaUbuntu 14.04.4 LTS ?18:32
MonkeyDustSayona  yes, thatgs LTS too18:32
SayonaI have nvidia  graphic, are not problems no?18:32
Sayonabecouse I want to use my hdmi to see movies on tv18:32
MonkeyDustSayona  it may require some configuration18:34
boturkstalkerua Does apt-get install dante-server not work for you?18:34
SayonaMonkeyDust, but i will work no?18:35
de-factopetermore maybe you meant this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu18:35
MonkeyDustSayona  if it doesnt, you can come here for support18:36
Sayona:*18:36
hgtyubuntu-mate: so, is it running?18:36
Sayona14.x not 15.x18:36
ubuntu-mateMATE is broken18:36
ubuntu-matei mean the theme18:37
lionelmessi5102guys, does anyone know a good nintendo ds emulator for linux18:37
MonkeyDustSayona  if you experience issues with nvidia in ubuntu, you can come to this channel to help you solve them18:38
hgtyubuntu-mate: is mate-settings-daemon process running?18:38
Sayonathanks18:38
ubuntu-mateProbably not since it gave an error at startup18:38
Sayonanow I prepare my usb to install ubuntu18:38
TAFBcan anyone help me getting openbox working with tightvnc? :(18:38
hgtyubuntu-mate: ...18:39
Shibehow can i stable upgrade to mesa 11 on ubuntu 14.04?18:39
Shibeoibaf ppa breaks my system18:39
ubuntu-matenow i lost all panels thanks hgty18:39
de-factoSayona if your nvidia card is new enough to include an audio codec for hdmi i would expect it will just work when you plugged in your hdmi on booting with nvidia-current installed correctly18:39
Shibeintel works, but with nvidia xorg wont start18:39
ubuntu-mateguess i am going to xubuntu at least it works18:39
DevindnoobHi all really looking for some help with a VLAN issue im having?? any network gurus out there??18:42
MonkeyDustask | Devindnoob18:42
HiddenTHello, I've got a strange question that I didn't have an answer to the Web. Is that possible to have virus on Windows if I downloaded it on Ubuntu on dual boot, or it's clearly impossible ?18:42
MonkeyDust!ask | Devindnoob18:42
ubottuDevindnoob: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:42
Bill_Dooryes, but you can scan the files with clam-scan first18:43
Bashing-om!virus | HiddenT Possible .18:44
ubottuHiddenT Possible .: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus18:44
DevindnoobMonkeyDust: Hay, Ive set up the VLAN following all the different tutorials and im having the same issue... Im tx data through but not receiving anything back when pinging??18:44
HiddenTThank you.18:44
Devindnoobubottu: Copy that... sorry ifrst time using IRC18:45
ubottuDevindnoob: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:45
TAFBgot openbox working! It's way faster, uses a lot less cpu too! THANKS!18:45
SburAnyone out there wanna give me a crash course on how to detect someone playing around with my computer remotely?  And how to close down such attacks without blocking my normal use of internet?18:48
ratraceSbur: define "playing"18:49
lionelmessi5102engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose.18:50
lionelmessi5102don't mind my answer.18:50
DevindnoobMonkeyDust: any clues?18:50
ratracelionelmessi5102: way ahead of you :)18:50
Bill_Doorlook up the command $who18:50
ratracein not minding ;)18:50
Sburratrace: I get the feeling that there is someone who set up a SSH (is that the correct abbreviation?) and doing things while I'm connected18:51
SburLike the mouse nor responding as it should18:51
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boturkJust block port 22 or shut down sshd if you're not using it18:52
ratraceSbur: well.. if your computer is subverted, then it might be too late to do anything as you're never sure if diagnostics returned false negative :)18:52
Sburboturk: How do I block port 22?18:52
ratraceSbur: so if you start with a clean, known to be uncompromised computer, there are ways to monitor for changes, for instance by installing AIDE and monitor for unwarranted file changes.18:52
DevindnoobMonkeyDust: ive tried both the vconfig way and the ip link  but still getting the same results im starting to wonder if the network card needs to support vlaning ?18:52
kwahIs there a way to move windows around, when there are no windows decorations?18:53
EriC^^Sbur: maybe your mouse is having problems? check "dmesg"18:53
* kwah bitten by a bug 156759118:53
ubottubug 1567591 in unity (Ubuntu) "[xenial] unity session does not start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156759118:53
EriC^^Sbur: is there anything other than the mouse that makes you think this? have you installed any custom software or ppa's etc?18:53
SburEriC^^: Like going left when I try to make it go right?18:53
le_piglol18:53
redouaneSalut18:53
lionelmessi5102salam redouane18:54
boturkSbur ubuntu has a built in firewall. You can enable it with ufw enable18:54
EriC^^Sbur: have you installed any ppa's or compiled anything on your own? ran any scripts?18:54
SburEriC^^: Not sure about ppa.18:54
lionelmessi5102Sbur: you can block the ssh traffic18:55
Sburratrace: How about a live CD? (uncompromised)18:55
EriC^^somebody can always get access even if don't have ssh installed, he could always do a reverse shell or have another custom "service" installed18:55
lionelmessi5102going to watch dortmund - liverpool game18:55
lionelmessi5102see you later guys18:55
Sburboturk: Port 22.  How do I block that?18:56
boturkSbur by default that ufw which is just iptables, will block everything.18:56
boturkyou have to explicitly allow 22 with something like ufw allow 22/tcp18:56
boturkturning that on should block someone even if they'e compromised your system and have a custom service running. Unless they've added an exception for the port their compromised service runs on to the firewall rules.18:59
Sburboturk: but that will prevent me from going on the net, myself19:03
Sburright?19:03
boturkyes, I assumed it was your desktop19:03
Sburboturk: Yes, that's what I'm using19:04
boturkThen you're good, it wont block outgoing traffic19:04
boturkyou can still reach out19:04
boturkto the internet19:04
Sburboturk: So I could do a yahoo or google search, even with ufw?19:04
boturkyea that should be fine. These rules are for incoming traffic19:05
Sburboturk: Just looked ... ufa is on the desktop19:05
Sburufw*19:05
Sburboturk: Don't know what it is blocking, then19:06
Sburthx for all the help so far19:06
boturksure thing, is it enabled?19:07
SburI'm going to keep figuring out19:07
SburHold on19:07
boturkI think ufw status via terminal19:08
Sburboturk: Firewall is active and enabled on system startup19:09
Sburboturk: is my verbose from "sudo ufw enable"19:09
de-factoSbur you might see what it blocked on "dmesg" in terminal19:10
boturkyea good idea de-facto19:11
Sburde-facto: Gonna need my glasses19:11
Sburbrb?19:11
de-factolol mkay :)19:11
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de-factoCtrl + '+' might have done it as well :P19:17
SikSo I noticed that "known issues" for upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 is now gone (but the bug didn't seem to have updated since apr 02?). Is it safe to upgrade now or what? (note: using GNOME and screensaver already disabled for completely unrelated reasons, though afaik the problem isn't with the desktop anyway)19:21
Nairwolfhi, I still have an issue with a broken kernel. I can't boot with this kernel (If i try to boot to another one, it works). When I'm saying I can't boot, I mean that after grub, my screen stays black. I can't access to terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 (without X). Could you help to find what is going wrong ?19:21
Nairwolfalso, I can boot on recovery mode on the broken kernel, and choose the option "resume", and after that it seems to work. I'm saying "it seems" because my wallpaper isn't present (although the file is present on my hard drive).19:22
SikNairwolf: sounds like that time some years ago when a specific kernel version simply wouldn't work on my computer (so I had to keep booting the previous one until the next update came along and fixed it)19:22
k1l_Nairwolf: can you boot the old kernel and come in here?19:24
Nairwolfyes, it work with the older kernel19:24
Nairwolfthe systems works perfectly with the older one19:24
EriC^^which newer one?19:25
k1l_Nairwolf: boot that and come in here. so we can look at some things on the actual system19:25
NairwolfSik: Someone suggested me to block (with apt) the new kernel, and wait untill a new update of kernel. but I don't really like this fix...19:25
Nairwolfk1l_ : Now, I'm with the older19:25
k1l_Nairwolf: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"19:26
NairwolfBefore, here, someone suggested me to look on Xorg logs, but nothing weird has been found19:26
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Nairwolfwhat is termbin.com ?19:26
EriC^^Nairwolf: did you upload the Xorg log of the black screen boot/19:26
k1l_it puts the output to a pastebin and gives your a link. so you can show the link in here19:27
Nairwolfit's here : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15675329/19:27
EriC^^Nairwolf: was it from the tty1?19:27
NairwolfEriC^^ : No, I've removed all Xorg logs firsly with the older kernel. Then, I've tried to boot with the new one. I've wait a little, and then, I've copied this logs with the older one.19:28
Nairwolfk1l_ : http://termbin.com/1vvc19:28
k1l_Nairwolf: ok, no seperate /boot partition that might get filled.19:29
EriC^^Nairwolf: which kernel works and which doesn't?19:29
NairwolfThe kernel 3.13.0-83 works but the kernel 3.13.0-85 doesn't work19:30
Nairwolfno, it's not caused by that k1l_19:30
Nairwolf /data is almost filled, but it's only videos and pictures19:31
k1l_Nairwolf: is "linux-image-generic" installed?19:31
EriC^^Nairwolf: that Xorg log is for 3.13.0-8319:31
k1l_Nairwolf: "cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | nc termbin.com 9999"19:32
Nairwolfk1l_ : yes, but only for 3.13.0-85 which is strange. I've done this command : dpkg -l | grep linux-image-generic19:33
Nairwolfbut I have linux-image-3.13.0-83 and 3.13.0-85 installed also19:33
k1l_Nairwolf: "apt update && apt-cache policy linux-image-generic | nc termbin.com 9999"19:33
SayonaMonkeyDust, :D installed19:33
NairwolfEriC^^ : How you know that ?19:34
SayonaHi, can anyone help me to install nvidia driver for my laptop?19:34
k1l_Nairwolf: it says so in line 6 of the paste which kernel is used19:34
Nairwolfk1l_ : I have only Xorg.0.log19:34
Nairwolfoh....19:34
Nairwolfk1l_ : termbin.com/2ejs19:35
pidaveanyone have any luck getting ota 10 on nexus 4??19:35
k1l_pidave: no. there is a bug blocking the update for n4. but better ask in #ubuntu-touch for more infos19:36
EriC^^Nairwolf: also 8319:36
pidaveok thanks sir19:36
Bashing-omSayona: Sure we can install a proprietary driver. But, what is lacking in the open source driver that is installed by default ?19:37
Nairwolfindeed... How can I do that for 85 ?19:37
Geck0Hi. Xubuntu 14.04 fresh install(patched). I want to dump this to a USB(16Gb) drive. However, I want 10Gb carved out for NTFS. Anyone got any pointers on this goal?19:37
SayonaBashing-om, now I install some driver from additional drivers19:37
Nairwolfhttp://termbin.com/avdm19:37
Nairwolfit's about apt-cache policy19:37
EriC^^boot into it again, ctrl+alt+f1 then run the command cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 and copy down the link19:37
Bashing-omSayona: :) .. amd all good now ?19:38
Imaginativeonecan I put ubuntu on a relatively old system?19:38
SayonaBashing-om, not finished yet.19:38
k1l_Nairwolf: ok, so the kernel headers seem to be installed, too19:38
EriC^^Imaginativeone: how old?19:38
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SayonaBashing-om, I need to reboot to see19:38
Bashing-omSayona: k19:38
Sayona:*19:38
ImaginativeoneEriC^^: maybe 10 years?19:38
EriC^^k1l_: doesn't linux-image-generic only install the image?19:39
Guest8678dagrut19:39
trijntjeHi all, I keep getting huge ping spikes on ubuntu 15.10 which makes using wifi completely unusable, I even often disconnect from the network19:39
EriC^^Imaginativeone: how much ram?19:39
k1l_EriC^^: yeah19:40
k1l_too much football watching on the other monitor :)19:40
EriC^^:)19:40
ImaginativeoneEriC^^: 4GB, I think19:40
k1l_Nairwolf: "apt-cache policy linux-generic | nc termbin.com 9999"19:40
EriC^^Imaginativeone: sure it should run i guess, depends on the graphics card, xubuntu should run if ubuntu doesn't, and there's always lubuntu which is made for older hardware19:41
BluesKajImaginativeone, type free in the terminal to see how much memory19:41
ImaginativeoneEriC^^: many thanks19:41
EriC^^Imaginativeone: no problem19:42
NairwolfI need to tell you something really weird. I can boot on the broken kernel on recovery mode. Then, I choose the option "resume", and it seems to works perfectly. Don't you think is weird ???19:43
Nairwolfapt-cache policy linux-generic : http://termbin.com/zva619:44
k1l_Nairwolf: what happens when you boot the latest kernel? where exactly is it stopping?19:46
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DocPlatypusin GNOME Classic, how do I set it to group similar windows the way I got it to in GNOME Flashback?19:48
DocPlatypus(in the taskbar at the bottom)19:48
Nairwolfafter the grub, I have nothing except a black screen19:50
SayonaHi, how i verify if i use nvidia drivers ?19:50
Nairwolfi see the screen works (I see the light), but it stays black19:50
Sayonaand if i have the card instaled19:50
autreHowdy19:51
EriC^^Sayona: lspci -l | grep -A2 VGA19:51
Bashing-omSayona: ' sudo lshw -C display ' .19:51
EriC^^Sayona: lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA19:51
Sayona:* all19:52
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EriC^^Nairwolf: the recovery then normal boot uses the failsafe graphics i think19:52
Sayona00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)19:52
EriC^^Sayona: did you run the second command?19:53
EriC^^also use paste.ubuntu.com19:53
ioriagterm19:53
Sayonano19:53
Sayonalet me19:53
Nairwolfwhat do you mean by "failsafe graphics" ?19:54
SayonaEriC^^,  Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/NYL7QnZ619:54
NairwolfDo you think I could removed the package with the new kernel, and block the update of this package untill a new linux kernel update19:54
EriC^^Nairwolf: no mode setting19:55
Nairwolfoh, ok19:55
k1l_Nairwolf: in grub. press "e" on the latest kernel. then remove the "quiet splash" on the kernel line. then boot that line.19:55
Nairwolfk1l_ : sorry ?19:55
k1l_Nairwolf: removing those 2 parameters will make ubuntu not hide the terminal output while starting. maybe we get a clue then19:56
Bashing-omSayona: Hybrid graphics ? what returns ( in a pastenin ) ' dpkg -l nvidia-settings ' ?19:56
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SayonaBashing-om, dpkg-query: no packages found matching nvidia-settings19:56
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Nairwolfokay, but can you tell me how to do that, please ?19:57
SayonaBashing-om, is not oki no?19:58
Bashing-omSayona: " configuration: driver=nouveau " so, is this hybrid graphics , show lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' . We see what about matching a driver to the card .19:58
k1l_Nairwolf: in grub, press "e" to edit. then remove those to words "quiet splash". then boot that with ctrl+x (or what ever it says in the screen there)19:58
aluhey i gotta install OS on a new system19:58
alushould I just get 16.04 beta 219:58
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k1l_alu: 16.04 is still unstable. you can install 15.10 and upgrade from end of april to july to 16.0419:59
SayonaBashing-om, The program 'show' is currently not installed.19:59
aluso at end of april20:00
alu16.04 is stable and I can dist-upgrade to it20:00
k1l_yes. 21st april is release date, iirc20:00
Bashing-omSayona: Sorry my direction not the best .. pastebin ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . pass the link back here .20:01
SayonaBashing-om, http://termbin.com/sbst20:02
Nairwolfk1l_ : too fast....20:03
NairwolfI can't read...20:03
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k1l_Nairwolf: the error happens most times at the end, when it stopps20:03
Bashing-omSayona: Hybrid grahic;s . And Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us . What release are you running ?20:04
Sayona1420:04
SayonaBashing-om, help me to install the good drivers20:04
Bashing-omSayona: Well .. With others, I have has the better success installing the 361 version. However, in 14.04 that driver is only available from ecternal sources. I do suggest that source as our trusted driver PPA .20:05
Nairwolfk1l_ : I see some instructions, then nothing. It stops. Now I know the light of the screen is turned on. But the screen is...black...20:06
NairwolfI try again20:06
Bashing-omexternal*20:06
yaaic|demo!list20:06
ubottuyaaic|demo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:06
SayonaBashing-om, no know :(20:06
yaaic|demook thank you20:06
yaaic|demosorry20:07
Bashing-omIf you desire the 361 - and that is your choice - we install from PPA .20:07
Sayonabut this driver? is not oki?20:08
Bashing-omSayona: You presently have the open source driver. Yes if it meets your needs, then yes it is OK .20:09
Sayonai try hdmi20:09
Sayonabut the sound is on the laptop not in the tv20:09
Sayonais a way to move on tv?20:09
Nairwolfit's too fast...20:09
Nairwolfit can't help us k1l_....20:10
Sayonaaaa20:10
Sayonafound20:10
SayonaBashing-om, can you help me to install the good diver? step by step?20:10
Bashing-omSayona: I have no experience there . others will have to advise about sound to the TV .20:10
SayonaBashing-om, I fix with sound20:10
SayonaBashing-om, help me with drivers20:11
Sayonanvidia20:11
Bashing-omSayona: I say again - If it is your desire - then yes .. I do suggest to install the recommended proprietary driver from our PPA . Your system, is your call as to what you want to do .20:11
k1l_Nairwolf: ok, boot to the old kernel.20:12
Sayonawhat is ppa?20:12
k1l_Nairwolf: then we try to look at the logs created by that bootings.20:12
Bashing-om!ppa | Sayona20:12
ubottuSayona: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge20:12
SayonaBashing-om, need to install http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us ?20:14
Bashing-omSayona: NO ! That link is to show you that Nvidia recommends the 361 driver for your card. We can get that driver - IF you want - from our PPA .20:15
Sayonaok how i get the driver?20:15
Sayona:D20:15
strahlHi, will Ubuntu 16.04 include a working version of mir? (able to support 3d games)20:17
Bashing-omSayona: First we make sure your system is 'clean' to accept a new driver install. Whar returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .20:17
reisiostrahl: you can try 16.04 now if you want20:17
anadolupardusne haber20:17
reisiostrahl: for more info see #ubuntu+120:17
SayonaBashing-om, dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 999920:17
Sayonahttp://termbin.com/0im420:17
Sayonaups20:17
strahlreisio ok, thank you!20:17
hMelissaI can't boot into Kubuntu 15.10.  :(  When I try, I just get a blank screen and have to log in via the terminal thing.  i've tried several different nvidia drivers (i have optimus), but none of them work.  someone told me it could be my window manager?20:17
SayonahMelissa, the same here i reconfigure the dpkg20:18
hMelissaSayona: How?20:18
k1l_strahl: neither wayland nor mir are productionready for desktops. they just gained first support by nvidia, for example.20:18
SayonahMelissa, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:18
strahlk1l_ if my graphics card is Nvidia, should it work?20:19
SayonaBashing-om, http://termbin.com/0im420:19
hMelissaSayona: OK.  no output or errors or anything20:19
Sayonareboot20:19
hMelissaSayona: k20:20
Bashing-omSayona: ' sudo apt-get remove nvidia-* ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot' . All there is to it .20:21
Sayonawow20:21
SayonaBashing-om, typed20:21
hMelissaSayona: rebooted, nothing changed.  :(20:21
Sayonapff20:21
hMelissamaybe you know, Bashing-om?20:21
Bashing-omhMelissa: will try .20:22
Sayonahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver20:22
debug__guys, I have this laptop --which I use to mainly program20:22
debug__the thing is.. it has a i3 processor, and integrated intel hd 4000 graphics20:23
Nairwolfk1l_ : how can I find this informations ?20:23
debug__there are two problems:20:23
hMelissaBashing-om: i already tried that but i guess i can do it again20:23
debug__i know the PC can handle unity way better, so it can be the drivers --which I don't know where to find them20:23
debug__and the other thing is the battery.20:23
debug__I tried several app's, but I definitely don't see where the problem may be.20:24
k1l_Nairwolf: is there a "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" now?20:24
Bashing-omhMelissa: Show us what we are working eith hardware wise - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - in a pastebin site .20:25
Bashing-omwith*20:25
nomicsiwiw20:25
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* Sayona do love with Ubuntu not war !20:25
k1l_Nairwolf: "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999"20:26
Nairwolfyes, this is /var/log/Xorg.0.log : http://termbin.com/2a0k20:27
Nairwolfand this is syslog : http://termbin.com/ovwp20:27
hMelissaBashing-om: k http://paste.ubuntu.com/15678610/20:28
Nairwolffor Xorg : I'm still with the 83, which one works.20:29
Nairwolfit the older one20:29
k1l_Nairwolf: is there a Xorg.1.log ?20:30
hMelissawhat do you think Bashing-om??20:32
Nairwolffor syslog, you have not the most recent logs. This is most recent : http://termbin.com/qbsg20:32
Nairwolfno, but there is a Xorg.0.log.old20:32
Nairwolfthis is Xorg.0.log.old : http://termbin.com/bp3p20:33
Bashing-omhMelissa: Same same sutuation as that of Sayona, Hybrid graphics, and Nvidia recommends the 361 driver. That driver not readily available untill 16.04 - but we can get it from our PPA .20:33
k1l_Nairwolf: what is "uname -a" now?20:33
dm_comphi, are the versions set in 16.04 as of today?20:34
hMelissaBashing-om ppa:graphics-drivers right?20:34
Sayona1:((( black screen at me Bashing-om20:34
Nairwolfthe the .old is with the 85 kernel !!!!20:34
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Sayona1Ufff20:34
reisiodm_comp: technically on the 14th I believe; see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule #ubuntu+120:34
Nairwolfk1l_ : Actually, it's 3.13.0-8320:35
Bashing-omhMelissa: IF you are comfortable installing from PPA '  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-* ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot' .20:35
dm_compreisio: FlightGear 2016.1 was released on Feb 17,2016 will that be included20:35
k1l_dm_comp: look at packages.ubuntu.com20:36
reisiomeh20:36
reisioannoying when packages change their versioning scheme20:36
Bashing-omSayona1: ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' Let's see what is not going on .20:37
dm_compk1l_ it showing older version ... wow this is a game why would they include the latest release :(20:37
dm_comp3.420:37
reisioyou'll be able to install it regardless20:38
Nairwolfk1l_ : Do you see something weird with this log ?20:38
reisiounless it's an incredibly poorly conceived distribution20:38
hMelissaBashing-om: I already have that ppa20:38
k1lNairwolf: what hardware is that?20:38
dm_compwouldn't*20:38
k1ldm_comp: there is 3.4 in 16.0420:39
Bashing-ommhh: then let;s see what is installed . ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; sudo lshw -C display ' .20:39
Nairwolfhttp://termbin.com/mrez : It's an Asus laptop. Most of chips are from Intel20:39
Sayona1Ufff20:39
Sayona1Black screen here after that command20:40
k1ldm_comp: well, the last release prior to this 2016.1 was feb.2015 (3.4).20:40
dm_compk1l : 3.4 was released on feb 17, 2015 FlightGear changed the version system so current release is 2016.1 released feb 17, 1620:40
dm_compk1l why isn't 2016.1 in 16.04?20:41
hMelissaBashing-om paste.ubuntu.com/15678808 and paste.ubuntu.com/1567881520:41
k1ldm_comp: so it was the date of the debian import freeze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule20:41
Bashing-omSayona1: ?? .. Fron the terminal ( ctl+alt+F1 ) . execute ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' . So we see that log file .20:41
hMelissaUuh crap20:41
k1ldm_comp: ask the game makers and game maintainers why they didnt package it for debian and ubuntu for the repos on time.20:42
Sayona1Uff i ise my phone to connect here20:42
hMelissaoh no wait that was the right link okay20:42
Bashing-omhMelissa: looking .20:42
Sayona1Give me the command to create a short url paste20:43
dm_compk1l :(20:43
dm_compthere is a PPA, might have to go with that :)20:43
TUVIEJAwhat is the diference between run a daemon and run systemd as well?20:43
Bashing-omhMelissa: " ii  bumblebee " Is ther a reason for BumbleBee ? Or is depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .20:43
Nairwolfk1l : Do you think on something specific ?20:43
hMelissaBashing-om i dunno i had it a while ago.  i can remove it if you want20:44
NairwolfMaybe, I just need to admit that my computer doesn't work with this kernel version...20:44
mjoelnerubuntu is wonderful!20:44
Bashing-omhMelissa: Your call as to which you want to use .. BumbleBee OR nvidia-prime .. BUT can not have both . Bumblebee is depreciated .20:45
hMelissalets say nvidia-prime Bashing-om20:45
Sayona1Http://paste.ubuntu.com/15678867  Bashing-om20:45
aluthe best ubuntu version to upgrade to 16.0420:46
aluis 15.10 right20:46
alunot 14.0420:46
TUVIEJAcan anyone tell me how set up the auto start ODOO using systemd?20:46
k1lalu: if you plan to upgrade use 15.1020:46
hMelissaBashing-om apt-get purge bumblebee right?20:47
k1lNairwolf: that doesnt make sense. and i cant find anything to find a reason20:47
AeonBearMy touchscreen stops working on suspend, can anyone help me fix this issue?20:48
Bashing-omhMelissa: ' sudo apt-get purge bumble* ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia-* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot'.20:49
Sayona1Bashing-om is the same for me?20:49
Bashing-omSayona1: reading.20:49
hMelissaBashing-om k one sec20:50
Sayona1I need to read? Sorry i use my phone to chat here ; not see correctly the text20:50
Sayona1Is so ugly irc on phone :))20:51
akira_Hello. How can I save brightness and volume levels between shutdowns...?20:53
hMelissaBashing-om nothing happened i still get kicked to the tty.  :((20:54
Nairwolfk1l: yes, that doesn't make sense...20:54
NairwolfI don't understand, so maybe, I will stop to use this kernel version20:55
Nairwolfor maybe, I could install the xenial kernel20:55
reisioakira_: should really do that by default; if you get tired of looking for ways to fix it, you can just make an autostart script to re-set them20:55
akira_reisio20:55
Bashing-omSayona1: " 30.446] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module x11glvnd " do not know if this is relevant yet or not ???20:55
Sayona1No know20:56
reisioakira_: KANEDAAAA20:57
Sayona1:(*20:57
Bashing-omhMelissa: Are "you" authorized to access your desktop " what returns ' ls -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority ; ls -al /home ; ls -al /home/<username> '.20:57
akira_Is /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode  supposed to be 1 or 2?20:58
karab44hello! any ideas how to fix vm open tools for ubuntu?20:59
hMelissaBashing-om paste.ubuntu.com/1567901020:59
Sayona1Nvidia drivers are ugly20:59
hMelissai know right?  next time i get a computer i wont get hybrid gfx21:01
Bashing-omSayona1: Are you fully updated ? see: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48053 .21:02
Sayona1Uff i think I will delete21:02
Sayona1Update the distro?21:02
hMelissaBashing-om what do you think?21:04
Bashing-omhMelissa: So far so good, but how about the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files ? WHO owns them ?21:05
hMelissaBashing-om theyre in the list.  i own them.21:05
Sayona1Is not any sokution for me no?21:06
Sayona1:(21:08
Bashing-omhMelissa: Yeah. sorry .. scatter brained there for the moment . KDE for the desKtop ? and I do not know how to start that DE from terminal - sorry .21:09
Bashing-omSayona1: what returns ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' from the F1 console ?21:10
hMelissaBashing-om: yes i use kde (because kubuntu)21:10
hMelissasddm is the login manager right?21:10
k1lfor kubuntu 15.10, yes21:10
hMelissak1l: thats what i use, so cool21:11
n-iCehi21:11
Sayona1Bashing-om, all are 0 to upgrade21:11
Bashing-omhMelissa: Seems sddm .. but I do not 'know' for sure .. have not seen KDE since release 9.04 .21:11
Sayona1Uff21:12
hMelissak1l do you know  how to start kde?21:12
k1lhMelissa: start the ssdm21:12
hMelissak1l sudo sddm?21:12
k1lno21:12
Sayona1Init.d21:12
k1lsudo systemctl start sddm.service21:13
bprompthMelissa:     if you're dropped to the tty, that means X-server isn't loading, no? if X isn't loading, kde will be nowhere near sight21:13
k1lits systemd since 15.0421:13
hMelissak1l, bprompt, Bashing-om no output no errors.  so weird21:13
Sayona1Uff the same here21:14
bprompthMelissa:    tried "startx" ? =) maybe21:14
k1ldont use startx21:14
karab44so nobody here uses ubuntu as vm guest?21:14
hMelissak1l so what do i use??  sudo systemctl start sddm.service didnt work21:14
Sayona1Mda, i will delete ubuntu21:15
k1lhMelissa: so i guess there is some video driver issue that stops xserver from starting21:15
hMelissak1l: i already purged everything nvidia and reinstalled nvidia-361 and nvidia-prime21:15
akira_Hello, my /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/usb-autosuspend.conf file is blank.21:16
k1lhMelissa: and what does the Xorg.0.log say?21:16
hMelissak1l: paste.ubuntu.com/1567919921:17
k1lhMelissa: werent you here with issues the last days?21:17
k1lhMelissa: or even some hours ago?21:18
Sayona1K1l me too21:18
Sayona1Black screen21:19
Bashing-omSayona1: Let's redo the xorg.conf file ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' . reboot again to see if there is an effect .21:19
Bashing-omhMelissa: Let's look at the log file of X abd see what we can see ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .21:20
hMelissaBashing-om paste.ubuntu.com/1567919921:21
Bashing-omhMelissa: reading.21:22
hMelissaty21:22
Bashing-omhMelissa: " Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf " let's also fir you too rebuild that config file . ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo nvidia-xconfig '. Reboot to see the effect .21:24
akira_Where is the brightness slider?21:24
k1lsounds like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/148523621:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485236 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Wily) "gpu-manager generates an invalid xorg.conf file" [High,Triaged]21:24
Bashing-omk1l: reading ! ^21:25
hMelissaBashing-om no change, same problem21:26
hMelissak1l uuuuuugh fuck21:26
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hMelissaso it looks like based on that bug report the problem is in ubuntu-drivers-common.  its fixed in 1:0.4.14 but i only have 1:0.4.11.21:31
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hMelissahow do i upgrade it?  im on kubuntu 15.1021:31
Flabber324Hi Guys, does anyone know the network daemon running on ubuntu server 15.10, and any documentation for it?21:32
k1lyou dont. its only in 16.0421:32
hMelissak1l: what!?!21:32
k1lbut important would be the issue that crashes the driver in the firstplace21:32
Bashing-omhMelissa: That is the way I read it too .. No known fix for the earlier releases (???).21:32
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hMelissaso what can i do!?  i cant just sit here with my thumb in my ass and do nothing!21:33
k1lget your system working again. then inspect why it crashes in the first place. then look if we can fix that.  and what about using original ubuntu drivers and not crashing 3rd party ones?21:34
hMelissak1l i need the nvidia drivers. :( i can install nouveau to get going again i gues but that won fully help me21:35
sebsebsebhi21:36
hMelissawhats tge nouveau package name again?21:36
k1lhMelissa: not using the 361 or whatever you use. but the 352 from ubuntu21:36
hMelissai tried 352 but that borked my lappy too21:37
k1lwhat video card is it?21:37
hMelissanvidia gefore 520m/intel hd 5000 thru optimus21:38
hMelissabut up until last night i was using 358 just fine21:38
k1li dont find anything for issues with the original ubuntu driver21:39
hMelissak1l: original being 352??21:40
k1lyes21:40
hMelissaok so what would you suggest21:40
k1ltrying to get to know if it works with the original driver from ubuntu21:41
hMelissai did that last night and it didnt21:41
TJ-Flabber324: daemon for what service?21:41
k1lget your system into a working state again. then see if it crashes again. and fix the reason why its crashing.21:41
hMelissaok.  im instaling 352 again, gonna reboot21:42
Flabber324@TJ- i'm just trying to figure out why my networking defaults to dhcp on reboot on 15.10, is it networkd that i need to be configuring?21:42
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TJ-Flabber324: It is managed by NetworkManager; in GUI there's a taskbar applet for that, or in a terminal there is "nmcli"21:44
hMelissak1l: nope.  352 still doesnt work.21:45
TJ-hMelissa: use the logs! /var/log/Xorg.0.log for starters21:45
sine0ARRRR21:46
sine0im sick of this.21:46
hMelissaTJ- i dont know how to read the logs.  i just want to fix my computer.  :(21:46
sine0my browser keeps lagging with website requests21:46
sine0there is nothing wrong with anything else21:46
sine0it works for a while and then lags, there is something wrong with the dns in the browser.... firefox, can anyone think what could be the issue ?21:46
Flabber324TJ-: yeah but this is for ubuntu 15.10 server, which uses systemd, and i can't see that network manager is installed21:46
hMelissaall i know is that it looks pretty much EXACTLY the same, and ive gotten NOWHERE for the past TWELVE HOURS21:47
UmeaboyHi!21:47
Flabber324TY-: i can install it, however i don't know if something might still mess with the dhcp settings21:47
UmeaboyUbuntu 15.10 could really make use of a newer ffmpeg version.21:47
Umeaboy2.7.6 is old.21:48
sebsebsebsine0: with website requests how so?21:48
UmeaboyI'm not using Backported or similar medias.21:48
sebsebsebUmeaboy: hej san21:48
Umeaboysebsebseb: Hej! :)21:48
UmeaboyHow are you?21:48
UmeaboyLong time no seen.21:48
UmeaboyHope you're fine.21:48
sebsebsebUmeaboy: ok you21:48
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UmeaboyI'm somewhat OK.21:48
hMelissak1l TJ- what do i do???21:48
UmeaboyCan't really complain.21:48
sebsebsebsine0: Firefox  can get slow with Linux, but I haven't had that for quite a long time now21:49
k1lhMelissa: really. that is not easy to help you.you insist on fixing a symptom while we have no clue what the real issue is (the crashing when you have a working desktop).21:49
Rellcan any1 point me in the direction of where i may learn about cloud computing21:50
hMelissak1l: i dont know what the real issue is either21:50
sine0sebsebseb: ubuntu 15.10 firefox will load pages ok for a minute or two, then it will hang on page request, the circle will spin as if its searching but it wont load the page I have to hammer the request and maybe it will come through or i have to close firefox and start again and it will always work first time, so its not an issue with my internet or dns servers its something to do with the browser21:50
sebsebsebRell: cloud computing is a big  thing, various types21:50
sine0locally... what could it be!21:50
sebsebseb!cloud21:50
ubottuUbuntu Cloud Infrastructure is a ready to deploy Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) based on OpenStack. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure for further details.21:50
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k1lhMelissa: so make the steps with stoping syslog again, then reinstall the driver. then boot the working desktop.21:50
k1lhMelissa: after the next crash we need to inspect the old logs from that crash to think about a solution.21:51
sebsebsebsine0: how much RAM you got?21:51
RellIf i was interested in researching it as a whole, including all of these differences21:51
hMelissak1l thing is i dont even know how to trigger that crash21:52
sebsebsebsine0: do you have a swap partion as well if so how much?  also how many tabs do you generally have open with Firefox21:52
sebsebsebsine0: I am rather loyal to Firefox :), but have you tried any other browsers as well?21:52
sebsebsebRell: you should GOogle for some cloud stuff I guess for a start21:52
sebsebsebRell: it's off topic for this channel in general21:52
sebsebseb!ot21:53
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:53
hMelissak1l ok now i just removed /var/log/syslog and rebooted but still cant even boot to desktop21:53
Rellit does seem to have a lot of different definition depending on where you look, thank you sebsebseb21:54
TJ-Flabber324: if network-manager isn't installed it'll be using ifupdown and /etc/network/interfaces, or for IPv6 possibly RA and SLAAC21:55
sebsebsebRell: yeah just do it the LInux way :)21:55
k1lhMelissa: i am at another device now. but take a look at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/%23ubuntu.html  to see what exact steps worked last time21:55
sebsebsebRell: and there are a few Linux cloud programs etc21:55
Rellalways21:56
sebsebsebUmeaboy: you still connecting weird things into TV's etc?21:57
Flabber324TJ-: aah, it does look to be using that yeah, and i've found the man page and conf for that now, thanks alot for your help :)21:58
nomichttp://i.imgur.com/Muon7Cv.jpg22:02
Umeaboysebsebseb: Weird things?22:02
UmeaboyAnd YES, I love breaking them.22:03
cfhowlettnomic, do not spam this channel please22:03
UmeaboyWhy?22:03
sebsebsebUmeaboy: pm me I have a device you might be interested in, crowd funded thing, still need some more people to pay for it, so close to it's goal22:03
shadw_itmanis it possible to boot ubuntu minimal iso in legacy(bios) mode but install it in efi mode on the hard drive?22:08
shadw_itmani'm not able to boot the usb drive unless i enable legacy mode22:08
sebsebsebshadw_itman: yeah maybe, but  running it with legacy mode is just more like the old bios set up then a uefi one really22:09
sebsebsebshadw_itman: but you will need to disable secure boot to boot up the USB drive anyway22:09
sebsebsebas far as I know22:09
sine0sebsebseb: sorry afk. I have 32GB of ram22:09
sine0im not sure about the swap, would that matter with that much ram22:10
sebsebsebshadw_itman: secure boot stops loads of Live Medias'' etc even from loading up22:10
TJ-shadw_itman: Yes22:10
sebsebsebsine0: well you so wudn't need one I think with 32gb ram and that's a lot of ram22:10
shadw_itmansebsebseb: the full liveCD boots fine even with secure boot and eufi enabled22:10
shadw_itmansebsebseb: its the minimal iso that wont boot for some reason... even with secure boot disabled22:10
sebsebsebshadw_itman: why use the minimal that lacks lots of things22:11
sine0I use this machine in music creation and having GB of samples loaded into memory for use with minimal latency instruments22:11
shadw_itmanTJ-:  so just because i boot the minimal iso setup in legacy i can still install in efi mode?  anything to consider while doing this?22:11
shadw_itmansebsebseb: minimal allows me to create encrypted volumes while dual booting with windows 1022:12
TJ-shadw_itman: before rebooting you'd have to drop to the shell, remove grub-pc, grub-pc-bin, and replace them with grub-efi, grub-efi-amd64, grub-efi-amd64-bin and possibly grub-efi-amd64-signed (for Secure Boot support)22:12
shadw_itmansebsebseb:  full live cd doesn't allow this unless ubuntu is the only OS on the drive22:12
shadw_itmanTJ-: before rebooting after the install?22:13
stacy-can somebody please help me with opencart access problem?22:14
TJ-shadw_itman: this assumes you've created an EFI-SP on the install drive. There is also one *BIG* workaround you have to do to enable the first boot in UEFI mode. That is, you need to *copy* GRUB's core.img to the EFI (Simple) Removable Media path: as in "cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI"22:14
TJ-shadw_itman: yes, before rebooting22:14
wyrehi guys! I'm with ubuntu Gnome 14.04 and I cannot use proprietary Nvidia driver22:14
wyrebecause gdm wont start22:14
sebsebsebstacy-: what is open cart?22:14
wyreis there any reported issue with that?22:15
shadw_itmanTJ-:  is this documented anywhere? seems very complicated22:15
shadw_itmanTJ-: have you done this?22:15
TJ-shadw_itman: the reason for the BOOTX64.EFI is at first boot in EFI mode Ubuntu will *not* have an entry in the system's EFI boot menu. So by copying GRUB's loader to the simple removable media boot path the system can find it without a menu entry. Once Linux starts in EFI mode from that, you immediately do "grub-install" to cause efibootmgr to add Ubuntu to the system's boot menu.22:15
TJ-shadw_itman: Yes, I've done it :)22:16
TJ-shadw_itman: it is complicated - you're trying to install an EFI-mode system in Legacy BIOS mode :)22:16
TJ-shadw_itman: it's actually only 4 groups of commands at different times, 3 before rebooting, 1 after22:17
Mathisenhello folks, so i dont know if this is offtopic here.. but bash is a thing in windows now.. so im trying to figure out a way to run rsync everday.. but crontab dont work in our version.. any other things i could use to do this ?22:17
TJ-Mathisen: is the 'at' command available?22:18
MathisenTJ-, looks like it yes22:19
TJ-Mathisen: the big question is... does it work as expected? :)22:19
shadw_itmanTJ-:  would it be easier to find a way to reinstall windows 10 in legacy mode so both can boot that way?22:19
shadw_itmanusing grub?22:19
MathisenTJ-, well i dont know  :) crontab command is there also but if i do " service crontab start " it bugs out..22:19
shadw_itmanin the situation we were initially talking about...is grub taking care of the boot menu?22:20
TJ-shadw_itman: er, you jest? 4 commands vs reinstalling Windows?22:20
MathisenTJ-, how does at work ?22:20
shadw_itmanlol22:20
TJ-shadw_itman: in UEFI mode the motherboard firmware (UEFI) has the system's boot manager and maintains a boot menu in its non volatile RAM22:20
TJ-Mathisen: try "man at"22:20
shadw_itmanTJ-: you going to be around for a while?  i'd pay you help me through this as it happens.  this is a huge deal to get this working.22:21
TJ-shadw_itman: when the UEFI boot manager boots GRUB, you then get GRUB's boot menu potential, too22:21
shadw_itmanTJ-: this is great info... i'm documenting this22:21
stacy-mathisen.. i have tried the "forgotten password" also in opencart but it did not email to my email22:22
TJ-shadw_itman: if you want more background: "Illustrated Guide to GRUB and Linux Boot Process on BIOS and UEFI PCs" https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/22:22
shadw_itmanTJ-:  thanks a lot man22:24
shadw_itmanunfortunately i have to reinstall win10 on this box since it came with the HOME version that doesn't have bitlocker22:24
shadw_itmanthats a big piece of shit22:24
shadw_itmanboth OS's need full disk encryption22:25
Derunihow can I change my nickname guys?22:25
TJ-shadw_itman: LUKS/dm_crypt for Linux, with LVM inside22:26
EriC^^Deruni: /nick <nick>22:26
Derunithanks22:26
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shadw_itmanTJ-: i got all of that worked out last night... i have it working on windows10(bitlocker) and ubuntu(luks) dual booting on one drive22:26
shadw_itmanTJ-:  without UEFI or TPM though22:26
shadw_itmanTJ-:  today i'm i need to do the same thing using EUFI and TPM because i knew it would cause problems22:27
EriC^^is windows uefi?22:27
shadw_itmanEriC^^:  yes22:27
shadw_itmanwell, windows 10 at least22:27
shadw_itmani suppose you CAN install it in legacy... which may be a viable option for me when i do this for clients22:27
Mitchell92Hi all... I just ordered a notebook computer to run linux on, choosing ubuntu... intel proset wireless is what reviews say it has... i'm hoping that it has good compatibility? I've never worried about wifi in the past, but I just wanted to make sure22:28
Deruni34<operation> <account> <key> what i22:29
Deruni34what is oparation?22:29
Mitchell92I ask as many reviews I've read, their only negatives are in relations to wifi, but thats on windows 1022:29
sebsebsebMitchell92: Intel ok :)22:29
shadw_itmanTJ-:  i am just now booting the windows10 usb and had the option of running it in eufi mode or legacy and uefi mode wouldn't boot... interesting22:29
sebsebsebMitchell92: it's 2016, not 2004 for example when wireless had a lot of issues with Linux since comapnies who didn't release their drivers etc22:30
sebsebsebMitchell92: in the past few years or so, most wireless devices have just worked with Linux  newer enough ones etc,  in other words you will probably be ok :)22:30
sebsebsebMitchell92: if not though can probably get a driver or something, but you did say Intel wireless? you sure it's really Intel?  for graphics Intel is actsaully good with Linux since their support is open source22:31
wyreIs there any known ? issue with gdm and nvidia proprietary driver?22:31
wyreI cannot start Gnome with that display driver22:31
sebsebsebwyre: tried anther dm ?22:31
l7CDmpMy laptop died, so I tried to put the hard drive from it into a Macbook Pro. I can get it to boot, but then don't have any graphics unless I launch an X server with the fbdev driver. Is this to do with the fact that the macbook has hybrid graphics and my previous laptop didn't? I could also detect devices I could install proprietary drivers for (the nvidia card, broadcom wireless) but now nothing shows up in additional drivers. halp?22:31
HesulanMitchell92: Studies I've seen actually show that Linux has far better out-of-the-box hardware support than even Windows these days. It's only when hardware requires custom or proprietary drivers that we have issues.22:31
Mitchell92sebsebseb thanks... its a Dell Inspiron i7359-2435SLV, for the price and the specs I really think it'll be nice, although on amazon the negative reviews im reading... they surround wifi and graphics but both are software wise with windows... it has 3.5 out or 5 stars.22:31
Mitchell92ahh thanks22:31
wyresebsebseb, I've installed directly Ubuntu Gnome22:32
Mitchell92the computer I ordered about an hour ago, should come Saturday... http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i7359-2435SLV-Touchscreen-Generation/dp/B015PYZWKI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF822:32
wyrebut after install Nvidia proprietary driver it crashes22:32
Mitchell92I hope I didn't make a mistake. Every computer I always buy online, I see many negatives but usually more postiives.22:32
sebsebsebMitchell92: apparnatly Dell is going to sell one or so of their Linux based business type lap tops, and wold wide to hmm22:32
sebsebsebMitchell92: with Ubuntu yeah22:32
stacy-please ...somebody help me with a passord problem in opencart!!!22:32
wyresebsebseb, and yes, I've tried lightdm but either Gnome loads22:32
sebsebsebstacy-: what is open cart?22:32
TJ-shadw_itman: some UEFI firmware's require you to go into Setup and specifically choose and TRUST a boot-loader on the boot media, even when Secure Boot is disabled22:32
stacy-sebesbseb.. its a cms22:33
Mitchell92sebsebseb, if you could, could you take a look at that link I had provided to the amazon website with the computer... I think its good quality but I haven't owned one before, I just wanted your (or someones) opinion to confirm to myself I didn't just make a costly mistake22:33
shadw_itmanTJ-:  in bios settings? i didn't see this22:34
sebsebsebMitchell92: There's a offical Dell Ubuntu lap top that's apparnatly going world wide, might have happended already22:34
sebsebsebMitchell92: but it will be there in the background etc, not all over their site,  Dell recommends Windows after all or so they say, all those companies uh HP Leonvo etc to22:34
sebsebsebMitchell92: they have played around a bit with Ubuntu  pre installed lap tops in the past a bit though in America Dell has22:34
TJ-shadw_itman: some UEFI have it, some don't. If it's there, it is usually on the Security menu, and if I recall, the lower half of the screen.22:35
Mitchell92sebsebseb i saw but i am on a fixed income / budget and am also a student... those were significantly more. This was $500 those started at like twice that... if you could, could you check that link I had provided? I am hoping it'll work great. I saw complaints were about video and wifi drivers22:35
stacy-sebesebseb.. please help me with a opencart login issue..i think it has to do with some kind of directory permission22:35
sebsebsebMitchell92: you can also buy Linux based computers from smaller busineseses, depending on where your from, but they usually cost a bit more than the brand names22:35
stacy-127.0.0.1 takes a long time too22:35
sebsebsebstacy-: sorry I don't knjow what open cart is22:36
sebsebsebsome kind of networking thing?22:36
sebsebsebyou gave the local host ip address22:36
stacy-opencart is a cms22:36
l7CDmpAnyone have any advice on how to force jockey/additional-drivers to recognize the nvidia card in a macbook pro?22:36
Mitchell92I understand. I'm just hoping that the dell i had mentioned would meet my expectations. It has a dual core i5 and 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD. At the same time, sebsebseb, does ubuntu now come with wifi drivers on the install image? There isn't a LAN port, so if not, I'll need to copy from a flash drive or something.22:36
naccstacy-: i believe you're the same person who has come here a few times over the past few weeks asking for helping with setting up various LAMP stacks, CMS, etc.?22:37
stacy-sebeseb.. 127.0.0.1 is used to login to the adnistration panel22:37
sebsebsebMitchell92: which wireless and graphics card?22:37
sebsebsebMitchell92: that's the two possible things that might cause some issue yes22:37
naccstacy-: are you using an ubuntu package of opencart?22:37
stacy-nacc.. LAMP is installed22:37
Mitchell92It'll be a Intel HD something, and i think its intel wifi.22:37
stacy-nacc... i think so22:37
sebsebsebMitchell92: find out which ones  more exact?22:37
sebsebsebMitchell92: if I'ts Intel things generally work with LInux though, or so it seems these days22:37
naccstacy-: what is the package name? which version of ubuntu?22:38
stacy-nacc.. can you please check what is wrong?22:38
stacy-nacc...i have ubuntu 15.1022:38
l7CDmpMitchell92: intel wifi and intel graphics are generally very well supported by Ubuntu, it would be very surprising for that to not be the case22:38
Mitchell92Okay. Thanks. I'm going to google a spec sheet to see if it is indeed intel wifi22:38
naccstacy-: i don't see opencart in the archives?22:38
stacy-nacc.. opencart was downloaded from a website22:39
naccstacy-: i just asked if you are using an ubuntu package of opencart, to which you said yes. You are not, so you should contact that website's owner for help with configuring their software.22:39
stacy-nacc.. its the login permission ..my ubuntu directories are messedup22:40
stacy-nacc... www.opencart.com22:40
ralbeserhello everyone having a problem getting my wireless work on a Hp Stream working22:40
dr_feelgoodappearently, it's gonna be tough for me to incure a trained chimp or dolohin, but I've frozen and restored 3 mice so far, gonna do six more, even if I don't do, will be able to do the german sheperd soon, scheduled for apr. 21st. Hopefully a human soon. ~ H.22:43
nacc!pm | stacy-22:44
ubottustacy-: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.22:44
naccstacy-: i don't know what you mean by "my ubuntu directories are messed up"? as i said, that's some random software, for which you should contact the vendor for support?22:44
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Mitchell92sebsebseb, information for the wifi card - Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 + Bluetooth 4.0   --- should that work out of the box, when i install ubuntu? Or will I need to get a USB ethernet adapter and install it and let it download drivers via wifi?22:45
TJ-Mitchell92: the Linux kernel (v4.5 here) has support for 7 variations of the 3165 device22:47
TJ-Mitchell92: then same for v4.2 in Ubuntu 15.1022:47
Mitchell92TJ- thats great! I was going to load up Ubuntu 15.1022:48
sebsebsebMitchell92: it will probably be ok since Intel,  and I am saying more so since what TJ- p ut22:48
sebsebsebMitchell92: if not you can ethernet and install a driver or should be able to22:48
TJ-sebsebseb: no; there's no wired Ethernet22:48
sebsebseban adapter or whatever was pupt earlier then22:49
stacy-is there nobody here who can help me with permission errors in ubuntu22:49
Mitchell92sebsebseb, I'd have to somehow put the driver on the flash drive and then compile and install or whatnot and put it on there, as I do not have a USB ethernet adapter and would rather not get one last minute. I do not drive, so I'd have to order and... wait... and I'd be on the edge of my seat for two days.22:49
TJ-Mitchell92: the Ubuntu Live ISOs have all the same drivers the installed will have, so it will work if the driver is available22:49
Mitchell92Great!!22:50
wyresebsebseb, xfce4 works22:50
wyreand I think Unity also22:50
wyrebut Gnome doesn't22:50
sebsebsebwyre: the dm you mean or?22:50
UmeaboyI'm hoping that 16.04 will have a updated ffmpeg version.22:50
wyresebsebseb, yes22:50
wyrexfce422:50
MathisenTJ-, no luck with at :( same with watch .. is it posible to make some kind of bash script for it ?? i dont know that so good but ...22:50
TJ-Mitchell92: the only thing that can catch you out is if the device revisions requires a firmware blob that hasn't been distributed to (older) releases22:50
UmeaboyUbuntu is behind many releases.22:50
sebsebsebwyre: I presonally prefer GNOME,  and that's been uhmm let's see since 2004 :)22:50
sebsebsebwyre: however22:50
Mitchell92It has intel hd 530 if that makes sense... should I be able to load up gnome 3, sebsebseb, or will gnome 3 perform very poorly?22:50
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Mitchell92TJ-, okay.22:51
wyresebsebseb, yes, I also but it doesn't work with nvidia proprietary drivers :(22:51
Mitchell92TJ-, I'll be running latest ubuntu.22:51
sebsebsebwyre: however the old GDM that's long gone was quite good I guess, the newer GNOME 3 GDM, isn't so good, so persoanlly out of the supported ones or that are known about I prefer lxdm usaully22:51
TJ-Mathisen: no idea; You'd need to ask Microsoft, or contact Canonical directly since it's not an official Ubuntu flavour at this time22:51
UmeaboyMitchell92: If it performs poorly you can make it better by helping out to solve the software bugs.22:51
Umeaboy:)22:51
sebsebsebwyre: it's a dm main thing is being able to log in, which one you use after that is your own personal choice :)22:51
MathisenTJ-, yeah will do thx anyway for the sugestion22:51
sebsebsebwyre: it should work with propritayr nvidia driver though22:51
stevildeadneed help playing a game22:52
Majora320Hello22:52
wyresebsebseb, but it doesn't22:52
wyreboth, gdm and gnome22:52
Mitchell92Well, I guess I could just try out gnome 3 and then if it doesn't work well, revert to mate or unity22:52
wyrelightdm does it and xfce422:52
sebsebsebwyre: why are you on 14.04 you should upgrade to 16.04 towards the end of this month really :) the next LTS22:52
TJ-Mathisen: might be worth pinging kirkland on IRC22:52
stacy-mathisen... please look at my ubuntu just this once... i beg of you22:52
stacy-its the permissions errors22:52
TJ-Mitchell92: I think it was Dustin that blogged about it, wasn't it?22:52
MathisenTJ-, okej :)22:53
Mitchell92hmm TJ- I really dont know22:53
Mitchell92I'll try things out. I could get used to unity I just didn't give it a chance.22:54
Umeaboystevildead: Which game?22:54
stacy-mathisen... please.....22:54
SaraKnoodlei hope that someone can help me to fix this... i have a problem that is making my booting time much longer.... i have a pc with ubuntu 15.10. the disk has 3 partitions: 1 for Ubuntu, 2 for Debian, 3 for data... i installed Ubuntu first... without LVM and with uefi and GRUB... later i installed Debian... when it asked me if i want to install grub.. i said no cause grub is installed already... so.. then i had to restart with Ubuntu (because Debian transition w23:01
SaraKnoodleas not visible to grub) then i updated the grub from Ubuntu.. and then i restarted.. and i could chose the Debian option at boot... afterward i realized my installation of Debian was wrong so i had to install it again.. and i chosen not to install GRUB once again for the same reason... but this time when i restarted grub recognized Debian... because it was set to do it before.. but with the previous installation... that's why every restart i make... there is23:01
SaraKnoodle something wrong going on in the check sum of devices recognition... or something like that... and the start up takees too long... do you understand what i mean?23:01
stevildeadcan someone help me run a game23:02
autrewhat game23:02
SaraKnoodlei hope someone can help me with that23:03
stevildeadblack and white 223:03
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: hmm23:05
SaraKnoodleevery time i start up i have this line: "A start job is running for dev/disk-by\x2duuid-e964fa69\xxxx\xxxx\xxxxx\xxxxxxx\xxxxx.device (48s / 1min 30s) so every booting i waste 2 minutes like that23:05
SaraKnoodleSebsebseb do you see what i mean?23:05
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: sort of23:05
sebsebsebthat's a lot of info though to take in23:05
TJ-SaraKnoodle: it's a common Systemd issue23:06
SaraKnoodleyea23:06
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: as for Grub make sure your using the one for the like main distro to boot everything else, and things should go ok :) I guess23:06
TJ-SaraKnoodle: what you're seeing is systemd (the init system) trying to find a block device it knows was there at a previous boot, and it 'waits' for the device to appear23:06
SaraKnoodlegimme the command23:06
SaraKnoodlewhat's the systemd or systemctl command?23:07
SaraKnoodlesorry but i am a kind of beginner... so how can i check the version of grub for ex?23:07
Bashing-omSaraKnoodle: Maybe something like ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' . Where 'sda' is the drive containing ubuntu.23:07
SaraKnoodleubuntu sda2 debian sda423:08
brianxhow do i get the startup messages to scroll by on startup instead of just a purple screen?23:09
TJ-SaraKnoodle: Bashing-om the issue is with systemd, and its 'generator's23:09
SaraKnoodleit's installing23:09
SaraKnoodleInstallation finished. No error reported.23:09
TJ-SaraKnoodle: do you get a result for "ll /dev/disk/by-uuid/e964fa69*" ?23:09
SaraKnoodlesystemd -> Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.23:09
[Saint]How would one go about sanely debugging why ~/.bashrc isn't being run at login but runs fine if a bash shell is called thereafter?23:10
k1lbrianx: remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line in grub. press "e" in grub, edit it, press ctrl+x to boot23:10
TJ-[Saint]: is bash the user's login shell?23:10
[Saint]TJ-: Yes.23:11
briaperrythis is a test23:11
whiskey26this is a response23:11
SaraKnoodlels: cannot access /dev/disk/by-uuid/e964fa69*: No such file or directory23:11
stevildeadautre: i have the game installed on my windows 10 partition but cant get it to run. also tried to run it on ubuntu but the discs wont mount23:11
shadw_itmanTJ-: if i decide to go with disabling uefi for win10 AND ubuntu, how does ubuntu's /boot need to be paritioned and where does grub get installed to?23:11
TJ-SaraKnoodle: right, so it no longer exists, but systemd has a reference for it23:11
TJ-SaraKnoodle: does this affect the Ubuntu startup, or the Debian startup?23:12
SaraKnoodleboth actually23:12
SaraKnoodlethey re stuck for a minute or 223:12
TJ-SaraKnoodle: that suggests the /etc/fstab has a reference to the missing file-system. can you "pastebinit /etc/fstab" ?23:13
SaraKnoodledo you need the code?23:14
[Saint]TJ-: bah - sorry to bother you - idiot user fault.23:14
TJ-SaraKnoodle: you need to share the URL with us23:14
SaraKnoodleyes i got error there23:15
SaraKnoodleok gimme a sec23:15
[Saint]I forgot the order of execution for bash-ism control files.23:15
[Saint]I forgot that .bashrc is ignored if you don't explicitly source it from .bash_profile23:15
SaraKnoodledo i have to register?23:16
[Saint]the ways the various applicable dotfiles can govern bash and each other is a veritable minefield.23:16
SaraKnoodlehttp://pastebin.com/hznB19UN23:16
TJ-SaraKnoodle: there you go; it is the UUID for a swap partition23:17
[Saint]So, sorry I wasted your time TJ-. I shall now slink away in despair over my own idiocy.23:17
TJ-SaraKnoodle: can you "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda? )"23:17
SaraKnoodlegenius!23:17
SaraKnoodle:)23:17
TJ-[Saint]: hey, you're not the last one to have that get you :D23:17
SaraKnoodlewhich sda?23:17
TJ-SaraKnoodle: issue the command exactly as I typed it23:18
SaraKnoodleok23:18
SaraKnoodleno need pastebin.. just one line: /dev/sda: PTUUID="8d7734ca-969e-4811-b768-56ac553efede" PTTYPE="gpt"23:18
TJ-SaraKnoodle: that wasn't the command I gave you23:21
TJ-SaraKnoodle: "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda? )"23:21
SaraKnoodlehold on23:21
TJ-SaraKnoodle: There's a "?" in there23:21
SaraKnoodleoh sorry23:21
SaraKnoodlei lost the ? :)23:22
* TJ- noticed :p23:22
TJ-Good job "?" != "plot" :D23:23
SaraKnoodlehttp://pastebin.com/FjWd9uPY23:23
TJ-SaraKnoodle: you see how the swap UUId has changed due to reinstalling Debian? "/dev/sda3: UUID="72b18fd9-e2e3-415c-8a29-29bb9a8a98f6" TYPE="swap""23:24
SaraKnoodleyes23:24
SaraKnoodlewhat you suggest to fix it?23:25
TJ-SaraKnoodle: fix it by doing "sudo sed -i 's/e964fa69-6ece-4b65-8662-52d181434453/72b18fd9-e2e3-415c-8a29-29bb9a8a98f6/' /etc/fstab " -- copy/paste everything between the "  " marks  *exactly* as I've given it23:25
SaraKnoodlei trust you :)23:26
SaraKnoodledone23:26
SaraKnoodlehow may we know that it's fixed? just rebooting?23:26
TJ-SaraKnoodle: then do "cat /etc/fstab" and you should see the last line now reads "UUID=72b18fd9-e2e3-415c-8a29-29bb9a8a98f6 none swap sw 0 0"23:27
SaraKnoodleyes.. that's the line23:27
TJ-SaraKnoodle: OK, it's fixed23:27
SaraKnoodleand i guess that is the right id of the swap partition.. right?23:28
TJ-SaraKnoodle: depending on what you've done with/in the other OS installs, it may need a similar change doing there23:28
TJ-SaraKnoodle: yes23:28
SaraKnoodleok let me reboot... and i ll be back23:28
TJ-SaraKnoodle: strictly an entry for swap is not required in /etc/fstab, since when a swap partition is detected it is automatically activated23:29
SaraKnoodlei see23:29
SaraKnoodlelet me restart23:29
brianxi'm migrating from fedora and not having much luck.  it booted and ran, but after running a dist upgrade, all i get is a purple screen.  ssh connections refused, no startup messages, no ctrl alt f2 for a console.  how do i get startup messages so i can debug?23:30
k1lbrianx: remove "quiet splash" form the kernel line in grub.23:31
k1lbrianx: that makes the eyecandy go away at startup and show the messages23:31
gde33noob question, what is the difference between doing ./startYaCy.sh and clicking it in the file browser?23:32
brianxk1l: did that.  no joys. :-(23:32
k1lbrianx: what exactly?23:32
reisiogde33: usually not much, as far as the end result23:32
brianxk1l: edited a grub file in etc to remove "quiet splash"23:33
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reisiogde33: ./startYaCy.sh asks the shell you're using to decide how to run it23:33
reisiogde33: clicking asks the file manager to ask23:33
k1lbrianx: you can do this right in grub itself at startup23:33
SaraKnoodlesebseb23:33
SaraKnoodlelooks fixed to me23:33
reisiogde33: they both have the same potential; the former is probably going to tend to be more reliable, as most shell scripts aren't designed for file managers, but command lines23:33
TJ-SaraKnoodle: good23:33
gde33reisio: ah23:34
SaraKnoodlenow i try to boot into debian23:34
k1lbrianx: so a little more info on what you did and what didnt work would help us help you23:34
gde33reisio: the file browser only knowns how to open it in the text editor :/23:34
brianxk1l: the grub prompt is hidden.  how do i get the grub prompt?23:34
DirtyCajunTJ-: setting up ubunu as dhcp server it only needs 1 nic right? its not the router just the DHCP. Illustration -> https://i.imgur.com/8A9GEVi.png23:34
k1lbrianx: press left shift (direct after bios) on bootup23:35
brianxk1l: thanks...  trying that23:35
reisiogde33: you can tell the file manager to open it however you please23:35
TJ-brianx: that 'purple' background shows that the plymouth boot-splash manager has initialised. If the PC hasn't frozen, pressing Escape should toggle it off/on23:35
gde33reisio: not me :P23:36
TJ-DirtyCajun: as long as the DHCP is on the same Ethernet segment it'll be fine (since it uses broadcasts). Otherwise, you'd want a dhcp-relay on the border of 2 segments23:36
brianxTJ-: must be frozen then.23:37
DirtyCajunyou are saying i need like an ip-helper if i have vlans. got it.23:37
TJ-brianx: right; those kernel command-line options being removed will help, or using GRUB's Advanced > Recovery option for the kernel.23:38
DirtyCajunsomeone told me that the dhcp server had to do the routing and i couldnt wrap my head around that.23:38
TJ-DirtyCajun: DHCP doesn't 'do' routing!23:38
TJ-DirtyCajun: but a dhcp-relay on the border might be incorrectly described that way23:38
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb got it23:38
reisiogde33: oh? :p23:38
SaraKnoodlebooting was quite quick... but i had this line:23:39
shadw_itmanTJ-:  is it true that if i accidentally install linux using BIOS when win10 is uefi, i can change linux to uefi after the fact?23:39
squintygde33,  if using nautilus  edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Executable Test Files23:39
shadw_itmanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:39
TJ-shadw_itman: Is this deja-vu?  I'm sure I answered that a few hours ago!23:39
shadw_itmanTJ-:  before you told me how to do it BEFORE installing linux23:40
SaraKnoodle"disk/by-uuid/74f3a4e1-6754.... etc" invalid path for logical23:40
sebsebsebshadw_itman: if your dual or multi booting with Windows, and Windows is UEFI which it will be, then Linux should be in UEFI mode to23:40
shadw_itmanTJ-:  not after i already messed itup23:40
SaraKnoodlefsck from util linux 2.xxx23:40
gde33squinty: oh! nice!23:40
sebsebsebshadw_itman: if you put some old version of Windows on such as XP, then sure you don't need UEFI so can use the legacy options23:40
gde33squinty: takes the training wheels off :P23:40
sebsebsebshadw_itman: or if it was just Linux on there then legacy is good to23:41
shadw_itmanTJ-:  apparently i cant even install a fresh copy of windows10 in eufi mode since it will only read the Windows10 usb in Legacy mode23:41
stacy-are you there nacc?23:41
shadw_itmani'm updating the bios now23:41
TJ-shadw_itman: well you can do it *afterwards* too, but telling the system to boot in legacy/CSM mode and picking the hard disk where grub is installed23:41
sebsebsebshadw_itman: once installed you can't just change the type  of OS that it is23:41
sebsebsebshadw_itman: you can23:41
sebsebsebshadw_itman:  if you disable secure bo ot, the Windows 10 USB should load up23:42
sebsebsebshadw_itman: secure boot stops USB sticks etc from loading up23:42
shadw_itmansebsebseb: its disabled man... wont boot23:42
FLinux291yeah23:42
FLinux291check again the settings dude23:42
shadw_itmanmaybe its my iso23:43
FLinux291probably23:43
shadw_itmanits supposed to be an untouched iso23:43
shadw_itmanbut was from a torrent23:43
FLinux291what is your ISO version?23:43
iffjoin #ubuntuserver23:43
sebsebsebshadw_itman: piracy naughtey naughtey23:43
iffuups23:43
TJ-SaraKnoodle: 74f3a4e1-6754... is the /dev/sda4 ext4 file-system23:43
SaraKnoodleyes23:44
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TJ-SaraKnoodle: well, the message is truncated but looks to be talking about LVM: "...invalid path for logical" ... 'volume' is what I'd guess, and I think you said earlier you'd initially had an LVM install23:45
shadw_itmani'm grabbing a win10 enterprise evaluation iso now to see if thats different23:45
FLinux291try grabbing a W7 ISO23:45
SaraKnoodleit says for logical fsck from util-linux 2.2723:45
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: I think TJ- is your best bet here for now23:46
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: so no need to pm me :d23:46
SaraKnoodlesorry for that23:46
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: I am probably  leaving the channel soon as well23:46
SaraKnoodleu been so kind23:46
SaraKnoodlefor a beginner like me23:46
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: I am gnerally ok with pm, your issue is a a bit complex though23:46
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: since UEFI and multi booting and uh23:47
SaraKnoodlei guess23:47
SaraKnoodleboring stuff23:47
sebsebsebboring stuff not really23:47
SaraKnoodlei wonder if i should fix this23:47
sebsebsebbut stuff that want to just work sure23:47
DirtyCajunlast question that is separate to my other thing. if you install ubuntu-desktop and the only login is ssh is it using desktop amounts of resources or server amounts of resources?23:47
DirtyCajun(other than more space to install)23:48
DirtyCajun(ram /cpu wise)23:48
sebsebsebDirtyCajun: well ssh won't load up anythuing graphical23:48
SaraKnoodleTJ i should fix that thing?23:48
sebsebsebDirtyCajun: so if all that's running is sssh it would be like you were running it on a server with no graphical stuff at all sure23:48
DirtyCajuncool. wondered if it was a "if a tree falls and no one is around" kinda question haha23:49
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: why were you jmutli booting with Debian?23:49
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: muli booting distros with a UEFI system can make things a bit more complex23:49
brianxk1l: still no boot messages, but it came up this pass.  i got to the grub menu and was able to edit the startup in grub by holding shift, removing "quiet splash" had no impact.  ran update-grub and will see what that does.23:49
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb i dont get the question23:49
TJ-SaraKnoodle: "invalid path for logical" suggests there's a reference to an LVM LV that has been deleted. Try to see if you can find a reference to it in the system config: "sudo sh -c 'grep -rni 74f3a4e1 /etc/*'  "23:49
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle:  well you mentioned Debian as well earlier so23:49
shadw_itmanFLinux291: why would i grab a W7 iso?23:49
SaraKnoodleyep... cause i m a beginner.. and i wanted to check wich distro i prefere23:50
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: ah right I see23:50
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: do you know about virtual machines?23:50
SaraKnoodleyes23:50
SaraKnoodle:)23:50
SaraKnoodlebut i prefere the real ones :)23:50
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: it's easieer to just put one on some sort of Linux distro or at first, and try others out in vms23:50
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: vm for most things works like a real install23:50
k1lbrianx: did it show the purple boot screen even you removed quiet and splash? did you press ctrl+x to boot?23:50
SaraKnoodleyou re right23:51
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: espeicallyo n a uefi system, uh,  grub and uefi and uh23:51
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: your issues basically that your mentining23:51
FLinux291GRUB and UEFI is a bad combo, in simple things23:51
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: yeep what FLinux291 put basically23:51
SaraKnoodleTJ - /etc/fstab:9:UUID=74f3a4e1-6754-4616-9094-f15adf65cdbe /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       123:52
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb you re right i deserve that mess23:52
brianxk1l: it did, and just sat there.  i did press ctrl x to boot after editing.23:52
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: no not really your learning :)23:52
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: it just would be eaiser to multi boot on a old bios system, UEFI changes stuff here and there it really does23:52
TJ-SaraKnoodle: OK, so you can ignore the message, I *think* it is the block device auto-detect logic testing if there's an LVM in that partition23:52
brianxk1l: running update-grub does seem to have fixed it.  i now have boot messages, but of course it is booting clean now. :-\23:52
k1lbrianx: strange. removing those should just show the messages23:53
shadw_itmanso maybe i should just stick to legacy/bios for what im doing23:53
brianxk1l: thank you for the help.23:53
SaraKnoodlewell on my first install i had to choose if i wanted to use uefi or not... and i chose UEFI23:53
sebsebsebshadw_itman: I think you cant use legacy really with WIndows 1023:53
DANtheBEASTmansebsebseb: shadw_itman: I think you cant use legacy really with WIndows 1023:53
FLinux291UEFI messes up the GRUB code internally so....23:53
brianxk1l: maybe a bug in 16.04, it is beta223:53
TJ-FLinux291: what?23:53
SaraKnoodlethanks TJ23:53
sebsebsebshadw_itman: as far as I know Windows 10 will require it to be in uefi mode so it can boot, like Windows 8.1 before it23:53
shadw_itmaninteresting23:53
shadw_itmanwe will see soon enough23:54
nauticalnexusI used 8.1 in legacy23:54
sebsebsebshadw_itman: legacy is for  oses that don't need uefi23:54
sebsebsebshadw_itman: and if you have one system that's in uefi mode, tehn the others should be as well really from what I have read23:54
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb.. consider it took me 1 week to fix a problem with my lenovo.. cuase it used to freeze at shutdown and reboot... then it came out that i had to update the kernel... which is nt so easy to do in ubuntu23:54
TJ-UEFI is a great solution for the mess of legacy multi-boot issues, where you've got multiple OSes all over-writing each other's boot-strap and hidden core23:55
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: well you usually just install a later kernel from the repos and done :)23:55
shadw_itmanso TJ- says its good23:55
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb and i still should make a bios update... which is almost impossible to do from linux.23:55
FLinux291TJ- You think so? UEFI messed up my first time installin Ubuntu :V23:55
reisioU/EFI? Helps vendors control you, and little else23:55
sebsebsebTJ-: yes over writing each others  boot loaders, I thought  that was partly SaraKnoodle 's issue23:55
SaraKnoodlecause it's not supported by Lenovo23:55
reisioit's easy to do with GNU/Linux, it's just not as easy23:56
TJ-FLinux291: the problems are due to very bad implementations by the motherboard/system manufacturers23:56
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: yes for  some silly reason still need Windows usually to update  bioses or uefi bioses, but I think that is slowly changing23:56
FLinux291TJ- Exactly23:56
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb i have a weird version of Ubuntu.. so there was no new kernel in repo23:56
TJ-FLinux291: no different to the early days of BIOS systems; and those you had no fallback to a shell like you have with UEFI23:56
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: the bios that came with your computer is probably good enough though and not really need updating23:56
shadw_itmani'm trying to implement dual booting win10 and ubuntu both encrypted... need it to be stable as possible23:56
shadw_itmani cant be configuring this for them and then have it blow up in a couple of weeks23:57
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: what version of Ubuntu?23:57
reisiofinally, a boot system that fails... to a shell23:57
SaraKnoodlesebsebseb you're right but i couldnt fix that annoying problem.. and somebody on the internet wrote that it would be a solution23:57
TJ-FLinux291: any problems, install the Tianocore EDK shell v2 to the simple removable media path /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI and use it to bootstrap the system23:57
SaraKnoodleshame on me i dont remember the name of the version... Wufy.. Wify... something like that :)23:57
shadw_itmanTJ-:  i wsa reading about that in your illustration document you gave me23:58
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: that's the latet 15.123:58
sebsebseb023:58
SaraKnoodle15.10 yea23:58
shadw_itmaninterested in that for if things go bad23:58
sebsebseb!15.1023:58
ubottuUbuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10 - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/wily23:58
FLinux291TJ- i have it but it doesnt make any changes, my computer still doesnt load my USB, but i repaired that a long time ago.23:58
SaraKnoodleWily yes23:58
SaraKnoodleand Wily support only old kernel23:58
TJ-FLinux291: that's down to missing drivers; if you can find the UEFI driver modules for the chipset, you can load them via the shell23:59
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: when you install 15.10 adn insall the updates, you get the current latest kernel update at the time23:59
SaraKnoodleso i had to download and build 4.623:59
SaraKnoodleno way23:59
TJ-SaraKnoodle: v4.2 kernel isn't that old!23:59
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: its just security updates for the kernel in 15.10 though23:59
SaraKnoodlebut i had the 2.x or something like that23:59
sebsebsebSaraKnoodle: compiing your own kernel you say, and you said yo uwere beginner to hmm23:59
sebsebsebcompileing or installing23:59

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