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bshahahoneybun: plasma mobile meeting in #plasma.. ;)11:31
BluesKajHiyas all13:06
clivejohi BluesKaj13:10
clivejobit late today13:10
clivejoanyone know whats up with KCI?13:18
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Ah ha can you not contact kce.pangea.pub13:18
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: I had that trouble 2 days ago,13:18
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: I don't know what is wrong13:18
telegram<Clifford>: yeah been down a while13:19
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: should read kci.13:19
yofelhm, doesn't respond to pings again..13:19
yofelstarbuck11: ^13:19
yofelstarbuck11: any guess at what's killing it? Harald said he experienced the server dying and lowered the job count, but it still happens it seems13:19
BluesKajHey clivejo, how goes it today?13:25
clivejoso so13:26
clivejogetting fed up with this weather13:26
BluesKajhmm, we got 8" of snow yesterday ...some spring this is...all the snow was gone then ...DUMP!13:27
BluesKajjust like Jan out there right now13:28
clivejoits all coming down as rain here13:29
BluesKajsooner have the rain 13:30
BluesKaj...no need to shovel 13:30
BluesKajbut the sun is out, should start melting soon13:31
yofelsitter: do you still have zabbix attached to kci and see something weird?13:31
marco-parilloHmm, I thought the Canadi*ns went metric years ago (other than the CFL)?13:32
clivejoLOL Id rather have the snow!13:32
marco-parilloWhoops. I am in -devel13:32
yofelwe have genuine april weather here these days - been a few years since that was the case13:33
BluesKajyou guys get so little of it there tho, it's like a novelty :-)  here it's a pita unless you're into winter sports which i can no longer do because of my poor knees, and my age I suppose13:34
BluesKajmarco-parillo, yeah we're metric, but I forgot to add the 20cm part ...I'm still old school measurement in some cases 13:35
sitteryofel: nope13:54
sitterwe do not monitor it13:54
starbuck11yofel: should work again13:54
telegram<Clifford>: @Sick_Rimmit did you get a chance to upload Muon to your PPA?14:59
clivejoI think KCI is dead again :(15:27
yofelit's not15:30
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: No Muon to PPA yet, PBuilder doesn't work on my laptop, hardlinks across disk is a no no. I've got another build machine in the making, once I have that setup, I'll do the Moun thing,18:38
yofelSick_Rimmit: the hardlinks messages are warnings (if you mean the package cache), not fatal18:44
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: No Pbuilder can't setup the environment in /var/ because it's on a different disk to my /home18:45
yofelthat makes no sense... debootstrap runs on tmpfs if you would like that. And I have such a home partition split myself here18:47
yofelI know that pbuilder throws hardlink errors for the deb cache, but I haven't seen that for anything else18:48
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Apparently the error says that it can't create hardlink across devices, a little google turned up some info about changing the pbuilder environment variables18:48
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: I had a muck about with it, but in the end I thought, Oh blow it I will just set up a build server in Virtual Box, on my main server machine here18:49
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: That way I can run the builds using my laptop as a client, and have the server which has more juice do the work.18:49
yofelright, as I said, that's the cache errors. You could just disable the cache by setting APTCACHE="" in pbuilderrc18:50
yofelbut using the server would make sense - even if a container would be a better solution than virtualbox, but that's up to you18:50
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Alright, you;ve convinced me, I'll give it a try18:51
* genii-testing sips18:53
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Ok attempting to create a xenial pbuild base18:57
soeehttps://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/4JsmRQZhrQe18:57
yofelwell that's a refreshing look19:10
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: ha ha well well, that worked 😃19:20
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: OK doing a test build of Muon with pbuilder19:25
telegram<ovidiuflorin>: Yuhuuu19:27
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: /me waves19:27
telegram<ovidiuflorin>: 😉19:28
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Hmm19:47
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Pbuilder errors19:47
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: https://paste.kde.org/p3zf7cen2/zqc4iy19:47
clivejoI think KCI is dead again?20:03
clivejosick_rimmit: that paste is password protected20:05
telegram<Clifford>: @Sick_Rimmit could you upload to LP20:21
telegram<Clifford>: we already know it builds, so pbuild is a waste of time in this case20:22
soee:)20:25
valorieso good to have you back, kubuntu-ci20:26
valorieespecially with all that green!20:26
* genii-testing makes more coffee20:42
clivejovalorie: you jinxed it!20:42
valoriebah!20:43
valoriestill, that is far fewer red than we used to have20:43
valorieand isn't that new stuff?20:44
valorieplasma 5.6, etc.?20:44
clivejoIm not sure what version its configured to pull20:49
* clivejo wonders why muon has no kubuntu_unstable branch20:50
valoriewould be good to know -- because that is supposed to save us work20:52
valorieand so far, it seems we're not using it to save us work20:53
valoriefor instance, why are we still building and testing wily stuff?20:53
clivejowell wily is still supported?20:54
clivejowe'll want to start backports after Xenial is released20:54
clivejobring it up to Plasma 5.5 and Apps 15.12 I would think20:57
valoriebring wily up?20:57
valorieot20:57
valorieoops, it's only support for a few more months20:57
valorieimo should only be security updates until then20:58
valorieunless it is literally no trouble at all to do the backports20:58
clivejopeople like a release to settle in a few months before moving20:58
valoriesure, I get that20:58
valoriebut our main energy should be improving the new release20:59
valorienot fixing the old one20:59
valorieimo20:59
* clivejo shrugs20:59
clivejoI dunno, cant even get a green light for Muon20:59
valorieoh, I have a further report on muon21:00
valorieit sort of worked yesterday21:00
valorielet's check today21:00
clivejoI think your apt install is corrupt21:01
valoriethat AND I still can't get rid of some old PPAs that should have been disabled in the upgrade21:01
valorieI wrote a long email which I need to finish, to kub-devel about it21:02
clivejoIve washed my hands of it21:02
valorieI think those are the root of the problem, but I've never been troubled by old PPAs before21:02
clivejorelease team havent even answered 21:02
valorieand I don't know why all my attempts to remove them have failed21:03
clivejocant you remove them the old fashioned way?21:03
valorieI tried using kdesudo kate21:04
valorieI tried using ppa-purge21:04
clivejouse terminal?21:04
valorieI tried using sudo apt-add-repository --remove21:04
valoriethe only way I didn't try was using vim or whatever21:05
clivejowhat about software source tool in discover?21:05
valorieyes, that's what I tried first21:05
valorieoh, discover21:05
valorieI was trying it in muon21:05
valorieI guess I've not tried discover21:06
valorieI'll try that, just to be complete21:06
valoriemuon seems to have done a large update successfully21:08
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: https://kiwiirc.com/embedding : https://trello.com/c/nlGPlNzT/48-embedded-irc-client-on-website21:26
valoriewhy not just use the inbuilt freenode webchat?21:36
claydohso what have I missed the [ast few weeks? anything juicy ??21:38
valoriehi claydoh, back from downunder?21:38
claydohya :( Ive been back a few days, catching up with stuff at work :( :(21:39
valoriecool, welcome back21:40
valoriewe're still waiting for action on our FFEs21:40
valoriewhich sucks21:40
valoriehowever, I've just been looking at the release-team list archives21:40
valorieand see nothing from us21:40
valoriewhich seems not OK21:41
claydohhope we can kickstart that21:43
valorieyes, perhaps now that some of the team have had vacations, we can finish the LTS release with renewed energy21:46
valorieand some fun!21:46
valorieour packaging party was loads of fun21:46
telegram<marcinsagol>: The problem is the lack of packagers and this job sucks off energy from the few we have ;)21:50
valoriewell, we have to start where we are, and build up the team21:52
valorieclaydoh: do you have friends/family there in Oz?22:04
valorieor just seeing the sights22:04
claydohvalorie: my gf lives there22:04
valorielovely!22:05
valorieso when are you moving there?22:05
valorie:-)22:05
claydohthe next step is deciding is I move there or she moves here22:05
claydohor she moves here for a while to help save up so I can go there22:06
valorieI have a friend who was living here and in NZ every year22:06
valorie6 mo each22:06
valorieso he had eternal summer22:06
claydohvisa applications are pricey22:06
valorienow he's moved there permanently22:07
claydohas are plane tickets22:07
valorieyep22:07
claydohafter living with the regular sound of gunshots at my old apartment, as well as a murder almost in my front yard, followed by the shooting death of a coworker just last week it becomes clear which one of us is doing the emmigration22:10
clivejowhere do you live?!?22:12
clivejosounds like here during the troubles!22:12
claydohbeautiful Savannah, Georgia. 22:14
valorieyikes, claydoh22:14
telegram<athoneycutt>: Mm loving my machine is freezing shortly after boot after takes some updates22:14
valorieMurrica! guns for all!22:14
claydohI don't mind guns at all, but they need to be the long barreled sort, not  handguns. 22:16

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