[11:31] <bshah> ahoneybun: plasma mobile meeting in #plasma.. ;)
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:10] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[13:10] <clivejo> bit late today
[13:18] <clivejo> anyone know whats up with KCI?
 Ah ha can you not contact kce.pangea.pub
 I had that trouble 2 days ago,
 I don't know what is wrong
 yeah been down a while
 should read kci.
[13:19] <yofel> hm, doesn't respond to pings again..
[13:19] <yofel> starbuck11: ^
[13:19] <yofel> starbuck11: any guess at what's killing it? Harald said he experienced the server dying and lowered the job count, but it still happens it seems
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hey clivejo, how goes it today?
[13:26] <clivejo> so so
[13:26] <clivejo> getting fed up with this weather
[13:27] <BluesKaj> hmm, we got 8" of snow yesterday ...some spring this is...all the snow was gone then ...DUMP!
[13:28] <BluesKaj> just like Jan out there right now
[13:29] <clivejo> its all coming down as rain here
[13:30] <BluesKaj> sooner have the rain 
[13:30] <BluesKaj> ...no need to shovel 
[13:31] <BluesKaj> but the sun is out, should start melting soon
[13:31] <yofel> sitter: do you still have zabbix attached to kci and see something weird?
[13:32] <marco-parillo> Hmm, I thought the Canadi*ns went metric years ago (other than the CFL)?
[13:32] <clivejo> LOL Id rather have the snow!
[13:32] <marco-parillo> Whoops. I am in -devel
[13:33] <yofel> we have genuine april weather here these days - been a few years since that was the case
[13:34] <BluesKaj> you guys get so little of it there tho, it's like a novelty :-)  here it's a pita unless you're into winter sports which i can no longer do because of my poor knees, and my age I suppose
[13:35] <BluesKaj> marco-parillo, yeah we're metric, but I forgot to add the 20cm part ...I'm still old school measurement in some cases 
[13:54] <sitter> yofel: nope
[13:54] <sitter> we do not monitor it
[13:54] <starbuck11> yofel: should work again
 @Sick_Rimmit did you get a chance to upload Muon to your PPA?
[15:27] <clivejo> I think KCI is dead again :(
[15:30] <yofel> it's not
 No Muon to PPA yet, PBuilder doesn't work on my laptop, hardlinks across disk is a no no. I've got another build machine in the making, once I have that setup, I'll do the Moun thing,
[18:44] <yofel> Sick_Rimmit: the hardlinks messages are warnings (if you mean the package cache), not fatal
 No Pbuilder can't setup the environment in /var/ because it's on a different disk to my /home
[18:47] <yofel> that makes no sense... debootstrap runs on tmpfs if you would like that. And I have such a home partition split myself here
[18:48] <yofel> I know that pbuilder throws hardlink errors for the deb cache, but I haven't seen that for anything else
 Apparently the error says that it can't create hardlink across devices, a little google turned up some info about changing the pbuilder environment variables
 I had a muck about with it, but in the end I thought, Oh blow it I will just set up a build server in Virtual Box, on my main server machine here
 That way I can run the builds using my laptop as a client, and have the server which has more juice do the work.
[18:50] <yofel> right, as I said, that's the cache errors. You could just disable the cache by setting APTCACHE="" in pbuilderrc
[18:50] <yofel> but using the server would make sense - even if a container would be a better solution than virtualbox, but that's up to you
 Alright, you;ve convinced me, I'll give it a try
[18:53]  * genii-testing sips
 Ok attempting to create a xenial pbuild base
[18:57] <soee> https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/4JsmRQZhrQe
[19:10] <yofel> well that's a refreshing look
 ha ha well well, that worked 😃
 OK doing a test build of Muon with pbuilder
 Yuhuuu
 /me waves
 😉
 Hmm
 Pbuilder errors
 https://paste.kde.org/p3zf7cen2/zqc4iy
[20:03] <clivejo> I think KCI is dead again?
[20:05] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: that paste is password protected
 @Sick_Rimmit could you upload to LP
 we already know it builds, so pbuild is a waste of time in this case
[20:25] <soee> :)
[20:26] <valorie> so good to have you back, kubuntu-ci
[20:26] <valorie> especially with all that green!
[20:42]  * genii-testing makes more coffee
[20:42] <clivejo> valorie: you jinxed it!
[20:43] <valorie> bah!
[20:43] <valorie> still, that is far fewer red than we used to have
[20:44] <valorie> and isn't that new stuff?
[20:44] <valorie> plasma 5.6, etc.?
[20:49] <clivejo> Im not sure what version its configured to pull
[20:50]  * clivejo wonders why muon has no kubuntu_unstable branch
[20:52] <valorie> would be good to know -- because that is supposed to save us work
[20:53] <valorie> and so far, it seems we're not using it to save us work
[20:53] <valorie> for instance, why are we still building and testing wily stuff?
[20:54] <clivejo> well wily is still supported?
[20:54] <clivejo> we'll want to start backports after Xenial is released
[20:57] <clivejo> bring it up to Plasma 5.5 and Apps 15.12 I would think
[20:57] <valorie> bring wily up?
[20:57] <valorie> ot
[20:57] <valorie> oops, it's only support for a few more months
[20:58] <valorie> imo should only be security updates until then
[20:58] <valorie> unless it is literally no trouble at all to do the backports
[20:58] <clivejo> people like a release to settle in a few months before moving
[20:58] <valorie> sure, I get that
[20:59] <valorie> but our main energy should be improving the new release
[20:59] <valorie> not fixing the old one
[20:59] <valorie> imo
[20:59]  * clivejo shrugs
[20:59] <clivejo> I dunno, cant even get a green light for Muon
[21:00] <valorie> oh, I have a further report on muon
[21:00] <valorie> it sort of worked yesterday
[21:00] <valorie> let's check today
[21:01] <clivejo> I think your apt install is corrupt
[21:01] <valorie> that AND I still can't get rid of some old PPAs that should have been disabled in the upgrade
[21:02] <valorie> I wrote a long email which I need to finish, to kub-devel about it
[21:02] <clivejo> Ive washed my hands of it
[21:02] <valorie> I think those are the root of the problem, but I've never been troubled by old PPAs before
[21:02] <clivejo> release team havent even answered 
[21:03] <valorie> and I don't know why all my attempts to remove them have failed
[21:03] <clivejo> cant you remove them the old fashioned way?
[21:04] <valorie> I tried using kdesudo kate
[21:04] <valorie> I tried using ppa-purge
[21:04] <clivejo> use terminal?
[21:04] <valorie> I tried using sudo apt-add-repository --remove
[21:05] <valorie> the only way I didn't try was using vim or whatever
[21:05] <clivejo> what about software source tool in discover?
[21:05] <valorie> yes, that's what I tried first
[21:05] <valorie> oh, discover
[21:05] <valorie> I was trying it in muon
[21:06] <valorie> I guess I've not tried discover
[21:06] <valorie> I'll try that, just to be complete
[21:08] <valorie> muon seems to have done a large update successfully
[21:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://kiwiirc.com/embedding : https://trello.com/c/nlGPlNzT/48-embedded-irc-client-on-website
[21:36] <valorie> why not just use the inbuilt freenode webchat?
[21:38] <claydoh> so what have I missed the [ast few weeks? anything juicy ??
[21:38] <valorie> hi claydoh, back from downunder?
[21:39] <claydoh> ya :( Ive been back a few days, catching up with stuff at work :( :(
[21:40] <valorie> cool, welcome back
[21:40] <valorie> we're still waiting for action on our FFEs
[21:40] <valorie> which sucks
[21:40] <valorie> however, I've just been looking at the release-team list archives
[21:40] <valorie> and see nothing from us
[21:41] <valorie> which seems not OK
[21:43] <claydoh> hope we can kickstart that
[21:46] <valorie> yes, perhaps now that some of the team have had vacations, we can finish the LTS release with renewed energy
[21:46] <valorie> and some fun!
[21:46] <valorie> our packaging party was loads of fun
 The problem is the lack of packagers and this job sucks off energy from the few we have ;)
[21:52] <valorie> well, we have to start where we are, and build up the team
[22:04] <valorie> claydoh: do you have friends/family there in Oz?
[22:04] <valorie> or just seeing the sights
[22:04] <claydoh> valorie: my gf lives there
[22:05] <valorie> lovely!
[22:05] <valorie> so when are you moving there?
[22:05] <valorie> :-)
[22:05] <claydoh> the next step is deciding is I move there or she moves here
[22:06] <claydoh> or she moves here for a while to help save up so I can go there
[22:06] <valorie> I have a friend who was living here and in NZ every year
[22:06] <valorie> 6 mo each
[22:06] <valorie> so he had eternal summer
[22:06] <claydoh> visa applications are pricey
[22:07] <valorie> now he's moved there permanently
[22:07] <claydoh> as are plane tickets
[22:07] <valorie> yep
[22:10] <claydoh> after living with the regular sound of gunshots at my old apartment, as well as a murder almost in my front yard, followed by the shooting death of a coworker just last week it becomes clear which one of us is doing the emmigration
[22:12] <clivejo> where do you live?!?
[22:12] <clivejo> sounds like here during the troubles!
[22:14] <claydoh> beautiful Savannah, Georgia. 
[22:14] <valorie> yikes, claydoh
 Mm loving my machine is freezing shortly after boot after takes some updates
[22:14] <valorie> Murrica! guns for all!
[22:16] <claydoh> I don't mind guns at all, but they need to be the long barreled sort, not  handguns.