[11:31] ahoneybun: plasma mobile meeting in #plasma.. ;) [13:06] Hiyas all [13:10] hi BluesKaj [13:10] bit late today [13:18] anyone know whats up with KCI? [13:18] : Ah ha can you not contact kce.pangea.pub [13:18] : I had that trouble 2 days ago, [13:18] : I don't know what is wrong [13:19] : yeah been down a while [13:19] : should read kci. [13:19] hm, doesn't respond to pings again.. [13:19] starbuck11: ^ [13:19] starbuck11: any guess at what's killing it? Harald said he experienced the server dying and lowered the job count, but it still happens it seems [13:25] Hey clivejo, how goes it today? [13:26] so so [13:26] getting fed up with this weather [13:27] hmm, we got 8" of snow yesterday ...some spring this is...all the snow was gone then ...DUMP! [13:28] just like Jan out there right now [13:29] its all coming down as rain here [13:30] sooner have the rain [13:30] ...no need to shovel [13:31] but the sun is out, should start melting soon [13:31] sitter: do you still have zabbix attached to kci and see something weird? [13:32] Hmm, I thought the Canadi*ns went metric years ago (other than the CFL)? [13:32] LOL Id rather have the snow! [13:32] Whoops. I am in -devel [13:33] we have genuine april weather here these days - been a few years since that was the case [13:34] you guys get so little of it there tho, it's like a novelty :-) here it's a pita unless you're into winter sports which i can no longer do because of my poor knees, and my age I suppose [13:35] marco-parillo, yeah we're metric, but I forgot to add the 20cm part ...I'm still old school measurement in some cases [13:54] yofel: nope [13:54] we do not monitor it [13:54] yofel: should work again [14:59] : @Sick_Rimmit did you get a chance to upload Muon to your PPA? [15:27] I think KCI is dead again :( [15:30] it's not [18:38] : No Muon to PPA yet, PBuilder doesn't work on my laptop, hardlinks across disk is a no no. I've got another build machine in the making, once I have that setup, I'll do the Moun thing, [18:44] Sick_Rimmit: the hardlinks messages are warnings (if you mean the package cache), not fatal [18:45] : No Pbuilder can't setup the environment in /var/ because it's on a different disk to my /home [18:47] that makes no sense... debootstrap runs on tmpfs if you would like that. And I have such a home partition split myself here [18:48] I know that pbuilder throws hardlink errors for the deb cache, but I haven't seen that for anything else [18:48] : Apparently the error says that it can't create hardlink across devices, a little google turned up some info about changing the pbuilder environment variables [18:49] : I had a muck about with it, but in the end I thought, Oh blow it I will just set up a build server in Virtual Box, on my main server machine here [18:49] : That way I can run the builds using my laptop as a client, and have the server which has more juice do the work. [18:50] right, as I said, that's the cache errors. You could just disable the cache by setting APTCACHE="" in pbuilderrc [18:50] but using the server would make sense - even if a container would be a better solution than virtualbox, but that's up to you [18:51] : Alright, you;ve convinced me, I'll give it a try [18:53] * genii-testing sips [18:57] : Ok attempting to create a xenial pbuild base [18:57] https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/4JsmRQZhrQe [19:10] well that's a refreshing look [19:20] : ha ha well well, that worked 😃 [19:25] : OK doing a test build of Muon with pbuilder [19:27] : Yuhuuu [19:27] : /me waves [19:28] : 😉 [19:47] : Hmm [19:47] : Pbuilder errors [19:47] : https://paste.kde.org/p3zf7cen2/zqc4iy [20:03] I think KCI is dead again? [20:05] sick_rimmit: that paste is password protected [20:21] : @Sick_Rimmit could you upload to LP [20:22] : we already know it builds, so pbuild is a waste of time in this case [20:25] :) [20:26] so good to have you back, kubuntu-ci [20:26] especially with all that green! [20:42] * genii-testing makes more coffee [20:42] valorie: you jinxed it! [20:43] bah! [20:43] still, that is far fewer red than we used to have [20:44] and isn't that new stuff? [20:44] plasma 5.6, etc.? [20:49] Im not sure what version its configured to pull [20:50] * clivejo wonders why muon has no kubuntu_unstable branch [20:52] would be good to know -- because that is supposed to save us work [20:53] and so far, it seems we're not using it to save us work [20:53] for instance, why are we still building and testing wily stuff? [20:54] well wily is still supported? [20:54] we'll want to start backports after Xenial is released [20:57] bring it up to Plasma 5.5 and Apps 15.12 I would think [20:57] bring wily up? [20:57] ot [20:57] oops, it's only support for a few more months [20:58] imo should only be security updates until then [20:58] unless it is literally no trouble at all to do the backports [20:58] people like a release to settle in a few months before moving [20:58] sure, I get that [20:59] but our main energy should be improving the new release [20:59] not fixing the old one [20:59] imo [20:59] * clivejo shrugs [20:59] I dunno, cant even get a green light for Muon [21:00] oh, I have a further report on muon [21:00] it sort of worked yesterday [21:00] let's check today [21:01] I think your apt install is corrupt [21:01] that AND I still can't get rid of some old PPAs that should have been disabled in the upgrade [21:02] I wrote a long email which I need to finish, to kub-devel about it [21:02] Ive washed my hands of it [21:02] I think those are the root of the problem, but I've never been troubled by old PPAs before [21:02] release team havent even answered [21:03] and I don't know why all my attempts to remove them have failed [21:03] cant you remove them the old fashioned way? [21:04] I tried using kdesudo kate [21:04] I tried using ppa-purge [21:04] use terminal? [21:04] I tried using sudo apt-add-repository --remove [21:05] the only way I didn't try was using vim or whatever [21:05] what about software source tool in discover? [21:05] yes, that's what I tried first [21:05] oh, discover [21:05] I was trying it in muon [21:06] I guess I've not tried discover [21:06] I'll try that, just to be complete [21:08] muon seems to have done a large update successfully [21:26] ovidiu-florin: https://kiwiirc.com/embedding : https://trello.com/c/nlGPlNzT/48-embedded-irc-client-on-website [21:36] why not just use the inbuilt freenode webchat? [21:38] so what have I missed the [ast few weeks? anything juicy ?? [21:38] hi claydoh, back from downunder? [21:39] ya :( Ive been back a few days, catching up with stuff at work :( :( [21:40] cool, welcome back [21:40] we're still waiting for action on our FFEs [21:40] which sucks [21:40] however, I've just been looking at the release-team list archives [21:40] and see nothing from us [21:41] which seems not OK [21:43] hope we can kickstart that [21:46] yes, perhaps now that some of the team have had vacations, we can finish the LTS release with renewed energy [21:46] and some fun! [21:46] our packaging party was loads of fun [21:50] : The problem is the lack of packagers and this job sucks off energy from the few we have ;) [21:52] well, we have to start where we are, and build up the team [22:04] claydoh: do you have friends/family there in Oz? [22:04] or just seeing the sights [22:04] valorie: my gf lives there [22:05] lovely! [22:05] so when are you moving there? [22:05] :-) [22:05] the next step is deciding is I move there or she moves here [22:06] or she moves here for a while to help save up so I can go there [22:06] I have a friend who was living here and in NZ every year [22:06] 6 mo each [22:06] so he had eternal summer [22:06] visa applications are pricey [22:07] now he's moved there permanently [22:07] as are plane tickets [22:07] yep [22:10] after living with the regular sound of gunshots at my old apartment, as well as a murder almost in my front yard, followed by the shooting death of a coworker just last week it becomes clear which one of us is doing the emmigration [22:12] where do you live?!? [22:12] sounds like here during the troubles! [22:14] beautiful Savannah, Georgia. [22:14] yikes, claydoh [22:14] : Mm loving my machine is freezing shortly after boot after takes some updates [22:14] Murrica! guns for all! [22:16] I don't mind guns at all, but they need to be the long barreled sort, not handguns.