| HoloIRCUser3 | Stuck accessing this on phone, alas; have Lubuntu 15.10 install that has no 'net access and software center doesn't work, managed to manually install vlc and all dependencies but still can't play videos correctly | 01:17 |
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| === HoloIRCUser3 is now known as DoranPhone | ||
| DoranPhone | Audio works but video is blank | 01:17 |
| DoranPhone | Only other comps I have to work with here are sluggish windows ones - can use pkgs.org to find specific deb files but can't figure out what I need to get - looked up the same video in vlc on one of the other comps and it said mpeg4 (dx50) for video codec | 01:20 |
| === HoloIRCUser4 is now known as DoranPhone | ||
| DoranPhone | Heh, *finally* figured it out - had tried a million searches with no luck but at last stumbled across a forum thread discussing setting the video output to sthg else; hadn't even considered I'd need to do that - now it works great :D | 01:34 |
| liquidsnake | anyone here | 06:06 |
| hateball | !help | liquidsnake | 06:10 |
| ubottu | liquidsnake: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 06:10 |
| liquidsnake | what chat client does lubuntu use? | 06:10 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: Do you mean for IM networks? Any you like really | 06:11 |
| liquidsnake | what about for irc? | 06:12 |
| liquidsnake | is there access to the ubuntu software center? | 06:13 |
| liquidsnake | i'm thinking of switchingwhich is why i'm asking | 06:13 |
| liquidsnake | i had trouble accessing my phone's mobile hotspot with lubuntu for some reason too. With Mint and Manjaro it picks it up automatically | 06:15 |
| liquidsnake | hateball you there? | 06:18 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: I am | 06:19 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: And yes, you could run software center if you like | 06:19 |
| liquidsnake | cool | 06:19 |
| hateball | Or just straight up use apt-get | 06:19 |
| liquidsnake | ok | 06:19 |
| hateball | For IRC I think the prefered GUI client is Hexchat these days, unless you run KDE Plasma | 06:19 |
| hateball | !info hexchat | 06:19 |
| ubottu | hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB | 06:19 |
| hateball | So you'd install it by "sudo apt-get install hexchat" | 06:20 |
| liquidsnake | righton ty | 06:20 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: I am not sure about what options there are for IM clients, I don't use any myself | 06:20 |
| hateball | The general rule is you can run any you like, regardless of DE | 06:20 |
| hateball | It might look out of place at worst | 06:20 |
| liquidsnake | ok | 06:21 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: And you know you dont have to reinstall to test different DE's, right? | 06:21 |
| liquidsnake | any idea as to why i can't see my phone's mobile hotspot on lubuntu? | 06:21 |
| liquidsnake | yes i am aware | 06:21 |
| liquidsnake | i could run it in vm | 06:22 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: Can you see other networks? | 06:22 |
| liquidsnake | nope | 06:22 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: I mean, if you have installed vanilla Ubuntu, you can install the Lubuntu packages by "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" and then you can pick session during login | 06:22 |
| liquidsnake | ok | 06:22 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: Are you on a live-cd/usb? | 06:23 |
| liquidsnake | yeah | 06:23 |
| liquidsnake | maybe i need to run it in vm instead? | 06:23 |
| hateball | If you can't see any wifi networks there's probably an issue with wifi drivers | 06:23 |
| liquidsnake | oh ok | 06:23 |
| hateball | If you run in a VM your guest will use the hosts networking | 06:23 |
| liquidsnake | well its weird cuz under Mint and manjaro i can see my phone's mobile hotspot | 06:24 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: Some wifi chipsets arent allowed to have the drivers installed from the start for license reasons | 06:24 |
| hateball | !drivers | 06:24 |
| hateball | hmmm | 06:24 |
| liquidsnake | ahhh ok | 06:25 |
| liquidsnake | well ty for all your help much appreciated:) | 06:25 |
| hateball | liquidsnake: But you can enable "restricted" drivers post-install easily | 06:25 |
| liquidsnake | okie dokie | 06:26 |
| === calimero_82 is now known as calimlubb | ||
| calimlubb | hi guys | 15:29 |
| DOCtriN | hi | 15:29 |
| calimlubb | liferea doesn't work, can anyone help me? thanks | 15:29 |
| DOCtriN | what's wrong? any error message? | 15:29 |
| calimlubb | yes DOCtriN | 15:30 |
| calimlubb | ** (liferea:5694): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files | 15:30 |
| DOCtriN | what version? | 15:31 |
| calimlubb | how can i see it? | 15:31 |
| calimlubb | i've used apt-get install in lubu 15.10 | 15:31 |
| DOCtriN | liferea -v | 15:32 |
| calimlubb | Liferea 1.10.12 | 15:32 |
| DOCtriN | I also have similar error message (in my case liferea:3136) but Liferea still work. | 15:32 |
| DOCtriN | what happened after your run liferea? nothing opened? | 15:33 |
| calimlubb | yes DOCtriN , nothing | 15:33 |
| DOCtriN | have you re-install Liferea? | 15:34 |
| calimlubb | yes DOCtriN , i've also deleted directory in .config .share, nothing | 15:35 |
| calimlubb | any idea? | 15:37 |
| DOCtriN | check your /tmp/ any liferea file? | 15:38 |
| calimlubb | now i see | 15:38 |
| calimlubb | no | 15:38 |
| DOCtriN | if you found it, remove it and try to run liferea again | 15:38 |
| original | hello just installed lxle | 15:38 |
| original | when i try to intall new language | 15:39 |
| original | download package failed | 15:39 |
| DOCtriN | calimlubb what happened if you run liferea again in terminal? | 15:39 |
| original | any ideas | 15:39 |
| calimlubb | always the same answer in the terminal | 15:39 |
| DOCtriN | calimlubb, have you checked the task manager, any liferea there? | 15:40 |
| krytarik | original: LXLE is another distro, and not supported here - regardless of what they point you to. | 15:40 |
| calimlubb | yes DOCtriN | 15:40 |
| original | ok | 15:41 |
| original | it seems like a connection problem | 15:41 |
| DOCtriN | calimlubb, try these one, liferea -w shown | 15:44 |
| calimlubb | now starts | 15:45 |
| calimlubb | so i must do it always? | 15:46 |
| DOCtriN | I'm not sure, but it's look like you need to uncheck the "show icon in system tray" | 15:48 |
| calimlubb | where's this option? | 15:49 |
| DOCtriN | you can find it in Preferences > GUI | 15:49 |
| DOCtriN | Tool > Preferences > GUI | 15:50 |
| calimlubb | where is gui? | 15:51 |
| DOCtriN | beside Browser tab | 15:51 |
| DOCtriN | I think the "Show icon in system tray" is no longer available in your version. | 15:52 |
| calimlubb | i've 15.10 lubuntu | 15:52 |
| DOCtriN | It will be easier if you just change the Liferea command from menu | 15:53 |
| DOCtriN | Go to Internet menu and right click on Liferea, choose Properties | 15:53 |
| calimlubb | ok | 15:54 |
| calimlubb | done | 15:54 |
| calimlubb | i've only 2 option | 15:55 |
| DOCtriN | Go to Desktop Entry and on command section add "liferea -w shown" | 15:55 |
| DOCtriN | and everytime you want to run liferea you just need to do it from menu | 15:55 |
| calimlubb | thanks DOCtriN , can i uncheck this option (show icon) in lubuntu 1510? | 15:57 |
| DOCtriN | I've checked my Liferea option and can't found any "Show icon" uncheck option. I think the "Show icon" only available from previous version of Liferea | 16:01 |
| DOCtriN | anyway glad your liferea can work now. | 16:02 |
| DOCtriN | Hi all, anyone know when Lubuntu will use LXQT, and what is the big differences compare with current DE? | 16:02 |
| calimlubb | thanks DOCtriN | 16:03 |
| ChunkzZ | hi, is lubuntu moving over to lxqt? | 19:28 |
| === federales is now known as ^ | ||
| rumi | Hi everyone, recently, I ran a apt-get upgrade on my Lubuntu based chromebook Asus C-300, and the touchpad suddenly stopped working at all | 20:12 |
| rumi | I had to reinstall the OS, but now I fear that if I upgrade, it'll break again | 20:12 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: what release were you on and what did you upgrade to? | 20:13 |
| rumi | I was and still am on 15.10 | 20:13 |
| rumi | I just ran an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 20:13 |
| tsimonq2 | so what broke? | 20:13 |
| tsimonq2 | (BTW you can use apt instead of apt-get) | 20:14 |
| rumi | The touchpad stopped working, I had to move in the menus using the arrows | 20:14 |
| rumi | I don't know what package caused this | 20:14 |
| tsimonq2 | ChunkzZ: yep, we will have an image for 16.10 and we will encourage people to use it, and 17.04 will be default, at least that's what I've been hearing, wxl and/or phillw, you want to confirm? | 20:15 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: run the following for me: sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit && sudo apt update && apt list --upgradeable | pastebinit | 20:17 |
| tsimonq2 | then give me the link it produces, if you could | 20:17 |
| rumi | okay let's try that | 20:17 |
| tsimonq2 | (this will tell me what packages it's trying to upgrade, the | pastebinit will pipe it to pastebinit, which automatically uploads the output of that command to paste.ubuntu.com, which is really neat) | 20:18 |
| ChunkzZ | I'm having problems with lubuntu :( | 20:18 |
| tsimonq2 | ChunkzZ: state your problem and I can help :) | 20:18 |
| rumi | this pastebinit is quite neat | 20:18 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: it is :) | 20:18 |
| ChunkzZ | tsimonq2, the only way to get brightness working on my laptop is to modify grub with acpi_osi= but the battery is terrible...the fan is always on etc | 20:19 |
| rumi | :tsimonq here it is: paste.ubuntu.com/15697828 | 20:21 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: Tab autocompletion is a thing, but thank you :) | 20:21 |
| rumi | tsimonq2, haha | 20:21 |
| rumi | tsimonq2, first time on IRC since looong | 20:21 |
| DaniKitten | Does Lubuntu have support for GRUB multiboot? | 20:21 |
| DaniKitten | Like Ubuntu | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | ChunkzZ: this doesn't seem like a Lubuntu-specific thing, might want to try on #ubuntu-kernel and/or #ubuntu-devel, state to them that this is NOT support | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | Lubuntu is Ubuntu with a different desktop :) | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | DaniKitten: ^ | 20:22 |
| DaniKitten | Just this | 20:22 |
| tsimonq2 | DaniKitten: hm? | 20:22 |
| wxl | DaniKitten: tl;dr yes | 20:22 |
| DaniKitten | I have Windows XP, because Wine does not run very well my PC games... | 20:22 |
| rumi | I recommend Lubuntu for weak machines like Asus Chromebooks ;) | 20:23 |
| DaniKitten | Or an HP Mini Notebook 2140 with 1 GB RAM | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | DaniKitten: you look at virtualization ever? | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | it might help | 20:23 |
| tsimonq2 | and if you just have it on a different partition, you can emulate that | 20:24 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: sorry, reviewing now :) | 20:24 |
| wxl | and it has the added benefit of potentially sticking it in a jail | 20:24 |
| wxl | xp is a security issue waiting to happen | 20:25 |
| rumi | tsimonq, no problem, it's a long list because no upgrade since installation ! | 20:25 |
| wxl | (unless you disconnect the network) | 20:25 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: not really, I've seen larger ;) | 20:25 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: anything look awry? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15697828/ | 20:25 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: what am i looking at? | 20:25 |
| ChunkzZ | so much for helping -.- lol | 20:26 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: when he does an apt upgrade on his machine, his touchpad support breaks | 20:26 |
| rumi | wxl: my Asus Chromebook's touchpad stopped functioning after an upgrade, so this is pre-upgrade package list | 20:26 |
| tsimonq2 | maybe a package upgrade does it | 20:26 |
| wxl | ChunkzZ: pointing you to the people that can best help you *IS* helping :) | 20:26 |
| tsimonq2 | ^ | 20:26 |
| wxl | the touchpad is, assumedly, taken care of by synaptics | 20:27 |
| rumi | wxl: yes it is | 20:27 |
| DaniKitten | Virtualization? | 20:27 |
| tsimonq2 | DaniKitten: https://www.virtualbox.org/ or http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page :) | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | one is open source and the other isn't | 20:28 |
| wxl | DaniKitten: basically it's like running an opterating system within your operating system | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | but the latter is easier to use | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | and my explanation is how to do what wxl said ;) | 20:28 |
| wxl | right now i'm using a locked down xp to run access 2010 within my kubuntu | 20:29 |
| rumi | is kvm less resource hungry ? | 20:29 |
| wxl | basically i allot a certain amount of my system memory to the machine | 20:29 |
| wxl | and i can adjust how much cpu i let it use | 20:29 |
| wxl | though usually memory is the issue | 20:29 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: whatever you allocate to it is what you get :) | 20:29 |
| wxl | we run this same system on work with 3GB | 20:29 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: but KVM has built-in Linux support where VirtualBox uses a couple tricks that may break if you do a lot of kernel upgrades | 20:30 |
| tsimonq2 | s/upgrades/upgrades to unsupported kernels/ | 20:31 |
| wxl | rumi: i don't see anything directly related to synaptics unfortunately. even the xserver packages at the bottom | 20:31 |
| rumi | I'll try this, I was also interested with Xen, but seems harder to use | 20:31 |
| wxl | it's better to say that the linux kernel has built in kvm support :) | 20:31 |
| rumi | wxl: I'll try and upgrade again, to see. | 20:31 |
| tsimonq2 | yes what wxl said ;) | 20:32 |
| DaniKitten | Yeah, I known virtual machines, but my computer run a lot faster hardware than virtual machine | 20:32 |
| DaniKitten | I have Virtual Box | 20:32 |
| DaniKitten | But is slow | 20:32 |
| DaniKitten | At least is many times slower than direct hardware | 20:33 |
| tsimonq2 | DaniKitten: how old is your hardware | 20:34 |
| tsimonq2 | maybe it doesn't have virtualization support | 20:34 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: I think Xen is parallel operating systems as opposed to virtualized, am I wrong, wxl? | 20:34 |
| rumi | tsimonq2: from what I understood, there is sharing of resources, but not actually a guest and host OS | 20:36 |
| DaniKitten | 2008 | 20:36 |
| DaniKitten | HP Mini 2140 is from 2008/2009 | 20:36 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: i think that's right, but i'm not the xen master. | 20:36 |
| wxl | DaniKitten: is that because of memory or cpu? | 20:37 |
| DaniKitten | 1 GB RAM, Intel Atom Dual-Core @ 1.6 Ghz | 20:37 |
| DaniKitten | Some people claims that is old | 20:37 |
| DaniKitten | but I want to use the same PC for old and new things, I'm not rich | 20:38 |
| wxl | 1gb is barely enough to run windows xp | 20:38 |
| wxl | so i can see why that would be problematic | 20:38 |
| DaniKitten | and new computer have issued with 16-bit things | 20:38 |
| DaniKitten | *issues | 20:38 |
| wxl | if i were you, i'd give it 2-3GB more and you could virtualize fine | 20:38 |
| wxl | then you could game AND chat on irc XD | 20:38 |
| DaniKitten | For example: My dad have an Acer Aspire One from 2012, but I tried to run a DOS game (Alley Cat) and the screen looks garbled | 20:39 |
| DaniKitten | I want to buy better RAM cards | 20:39 |
| DaniKitten | Is DDR3 compatible with DDR2? | 20:39 |
| tsimonq2 | no, I don't think so | 20:39 |
| wxl | definitely not | 20:40 |
| DaniKitten | Or all the things are different now? | 20:40 |
| wxl | but DD2 is cheap | 20:40 |
| wxl | i think there's like DDR4 or 5 now | 20:40 |
| wxl | :) | 20:40 |
| DaniKitten | So, I need to buy DDR2 cards | 20:40 |
| wxl | i most use old stuff, so i don't know about this new fangled stuff | 20:40 |
| DaniKitten | Are cheaper and my laptop model still uses that kind of cards | 20:40 |
| DaniKitten | I'll check now | 20:40 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I thought DDR4 was the current one but I could be wrong | 20:41 |
| DaniKitten | I also use old stuff | 20:41 |
| wxl | i have a place that i can get DDR2 desktop in 2GB for like $10 | 20:41 |
| wxl | it's used but who cares | 20:41 |
| rumi | rebooting... | 20:41 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: you don't have to reboot for upgrades unless it's a kernel upgrade ;) | 20:41 |
| DaniKitten | but some trolls want to make me upgrade the entire laptop (instead of saving money upgrading only the oldest things) | 20:42 |
| rumi | tsimonq2, last time the touchpad stopped working after a reboot... | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | alright rumi :) | 20:42 |
| rumi | tsimonq2, aaaaaand, touchpad gone | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | :/ | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: you know where to start? dmesg? | 20:42 |
| rumi | good thing is, terminator opens at startup :) | 20:42 |
| wxl | yeah that's where i'd start | 20:42 |
| DaniKitten | I want to buy a BIG laptop, maybe 16" or more if available | 20:43 |
| rumi | pastebinit dmesg output ? or grepping something first ? | 20:43 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: could you run: dmesg | pastebinit ? | 20:43 |
| DaniKitten | The BIG things uses old (and cheap) things, and probably will be cheaper that BIG laptops | 20:43 |
| rumi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15698340 | 20:44 |
| rumi | [ 10.396296] atmel_mxt_ts: probe of i2c-ATML0000:01 failed with error -22 | 20:44 |
| tsimonq2 | rumi: what's your laptop model? | 20:44 |
| rumi | look tat that | 20:44 |
| rumi | atmel seems to be some touch driver | 20:45 |
| rumi | it's Asus Chromebook C200M | 20:45 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: anything? | 20:45 |
| rumi | wxl: line 640 | 20:46 |
| wxl | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit | 20:46 |
| rumi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15698417 | 20:47 |
| wxl | that's weird | 20:48 |
| wxl | i don't see any mention of the touchpad at all there | 20:49 |
| rumi | :/ | 20:50 |
| wxl | rumi: xinput list | pastebinit | 20:53 |
| rumi | okay | 20:55 |
| rumi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15698581 | 20:55 |
| wxl | rumi: cat /proc/bus/input/devices | pastebinit | 21:01 |
| rumi | alright | 21:01 |
| rumi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15698716 | 21:02 |
| wxl | rumi: it might also be valuable to see lspci -vv | 21:05 |
| rumi | okay | 21:05 |
| rumi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15698784 | 21:06 |
| wxl | rumi: can i make a dramatic suggestion? maybe it's unplugged? | 21:07 |
| rumi | wxl: what could be unplugged ? | 21:07 |
| wxl | rumi: the cable that connects the touchpad to the system board | 21:07 |
| rumi | but it worked 10 minutes ago, just before the upgrade | 21:08 |
| wxl | weird | 21:08 |
| rumi | wxl: beside, it's a tight notebook | 21:08 |
| rumi | wxl: this same problem happened twice before, in the previous weeks, it's repeatable | 21:10 |
| wxl | rumi: there's this but i'm not getting anywhere with it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection | 21:11 |
| rumi | I could upgrade each package after one another, to narrow the search to a specific package | 21:11 |
| rumi | external mouse works fine. | 21:12 |
| rumi | looks like a bug in the latest kernel image | 21:13 |
| rumi | Can I easily revert to the previous image ? | 21:14 |
| rumi | maybe with changing the symbolic link to vmlinuz ? | 21:14 |
| rumi | Actually, one need to relink initrd.img instead of vmlinuz | 21:23 |
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