[05:00] <Kellyni> What do you make of this?
[05:00] <Kellyni> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZvYglefsU
[05:04] <dax> i think this is not really on-topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> the new xenial wallpapers: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-default-wallpapers-revealed-gallery-502692.shtml
[06:26] <Ben64> hmm... i have an ssd in this machine now, just got a replacement
[06:27] <Ben64> 240 -> 500GB.... what's the easiest way to migrate?
[06:27] <Ben64> could dd the whole thing, but then i'd want to move partitions around a little
[06:28] <dax> dd and then do partition manipulation with gparted afterwards?
[06:28] <Ben64> i suppose, but there's got to be a better way
[06:29] <Ben64> make partitions, dd over grub, dd over sdx1, dd over sdx2, fsck?
[06:29] <dax> i usually just put in new drive and restore from backup tbh
[06:29] <dax> how is that easier than what i said
[06:29] <Ben64> well less writes
[06:29] <dax> is there stuff on the source disk other than sdx1 and sdx2
[06:30] <Ben64> nope
[06:30] <dax> how is that less writes :\
[06:30] <Ben64> if i dd'd the whole thing over, then i'd move sdx2 start position, that's like writing sdx2 all over again
[06:30] <dax> oh, you want to make sdx1 bigger
[06:30] <Ben64> yeah
[06:30] <dax> meh, it's not enough writes that i'd care personally
[06:30] <dax> i guess you could if you want
[06:30] <Ben64> i'm the guy who actually fills up the root partition somehow
[06:31] <dax> i just don't have a /home partition so *shrug*
[06:32] <Ben64> oh
[06:32] <Ben64> new ssd is rated for 1 Petabyte of writes
[06:33] <Ben64> yeah, i suppose that's fine
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: wich brand did you buy?
[06:35] <Ben64> samsung 850 evo
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> i bought the 850 pro 128gig few days ago :p
[06:36] <Ben64> fancy
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> 94 euro
[06:36] <Ben64> 850 evo 500GB $140
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> neat price
[06:37] <Ben64> yeah, my old 240GB one is going to my mom's computer which i'm going to revive the next couple days
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> also linux, or she on windows?
[06:37] <Ben64> after repeatedly having to fix the windows problems on her computer, ubuntu
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> nicee
[06:38] <Ben64> was working fine till the old 400GB sata drive died
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: wich brand died? im always curious
[06:40]  * Ben64 walks over to it
[06:40] <Ben64> ouch, seagate
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> oh oh
[06:40] <Ben64> 4th seagate to die for me in the past year?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> what the...
[06:40] <Ben64> i have lots of hard drives
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> i never had a dead seagate before weird
[06:40] <Ben64> what really
[06:41] <Ben64> and one folder i didn't back up properly and lost some stuff :(
[06:41] <dax> we stopped buying seagates at work
[06:41] <Ben64> although might be able to hack a fix
[06:41] <dax> apparently all of our seagates died so that lotuspsychje's didn't have to
[06:41] <Ben64> seems like a firmware/board/chip/something problem
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> dax: wich drives your company buys usually then?
[06:42] <dax> WD
[06:42] <Ben64> last two drives i bought were hitachi/hgst now
[06:42] <dax> enterprisy ones, i forget the exact model
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> i had many dead WD before, wd books, and old types wd's under 100gig
[06:43] <Ben64> yeah they seem to go in waves
[06:43] <elky> WD external stuff isn't enterprise
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> thats why i bought the 850 pro, 10 years warranty
[06:43] <Ben64> the problem is spinny drives are just bad
[06:44] <Ben64> but you can't beat that price/GB
[06:44] <dax> yeah, warranties on our WDs are 5 years. so we don't really care if they break
[06:44] <dax> plus we have more hot swaps than we can count so while they're busy overnighting to us we're fine
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> dax: how many gigs are those wd enterprise?
[06:45] <dax> 4TB
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> wows
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> big change against those oldskool wd raptors lol
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[08:01] <Ben65> :D 230MB/s dd from ssd1 to ssd2
[09:45] <Ben64> after a little boot-repair for some reason, it works!
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <Bashing-om> o/ BluesKaj . Top o' the morn'n to ya .
[13:10] <Bashing-om> !netflix
[13:10] <ubot5`> If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hey Bashing-om, how's things oday?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> today even :-)
[13:27] <Bashing-om> Here, and that is a good thing .. considering going back to bed and finish my nap .. that would be a good thing too .
[20:18] <DaniKitten> Hello
[20:20] <DaniKitten> Well, Tell me if this is true or false. My computer with 1 GB RAM runs Ubuntu 12.04. If I change to Lubuntu on April 2017, I will be good. True or false?
[20:20] <DaniKitten> With support
[20:20] <DaniKitten> "Good" means for me "with support"
[20:22] <Bashing-om> DaniKitten: " If I change to Lubuntu on April 2017," 16.04 ?
[20:22] <DaniKitten> The newest version on April 2017
[20:23] <Ben64> the newest version will probably be 17.04, but you'll probably want 16.04
[20:23] <Bashing-om> DaniKitten: Good chance good .. but need to ask that in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[20:23] <DaniKitten> LTS is better
[20:23] <daftykins> nothing will run well on 1GB RAM
[20:24] <DaniKitten> Why
[20:24] <daftykins> because that has been a poor amount of RAM for the last x years
[20:24] <Ben64> 1GB was kind of low 10 years ago
[20:24] <daftykins> *nod*
[20:24] <DaniKitten> I spend a lot of money buying a business 1 GB RAM laptop and someone says that "Nothing run well on 1 GB RAM"
[20:24] <daftykins> it's time to let the mini go
[20:25] <daftykins> a mini is *not* business.
[20:25] <DaniKitten> HP 2140
[20:25] <DaniKitten> Tell me about it
[20:25] <Ben64> oh that's slow
[20:25] <TJ-> depends what you want to do with it; I have perfectly usable Vaio notebooks with 384MB of RAM!
[20:25] <daftykins> that is a very bad netbook
[20:25] <Ben64> you should look to get a better computer by april 2017
[20:26] <DaniKitten> And I don't want a newer computer because some new laptops have compatibility issues with FreeDOS or DOS legacy functions
[20:26] <daftykins> there have been kernel regressions ruining the 945 express chipset for the last 3+ years, i don't think that machine will ever be usable again
[20:26] <daftykins> so keep that one around for DOS only.
[20:27] <DaniKitten> That's hard, because is too good for using only DOS, but is too slow to run modern OS
[20:27] <DaniKitten> 1 GB RAM
[20:27] <daftykins> yep time to retire it
[20:28] <DaniKitten> And was my favorite PC for a big time
[20:28] <DaniKitten> Except if I buy a new 2 GB RAM
[20:28] <DaniKitten> for my laptop
[20:28] <DaniKitten> Most laptops can be upgraded
[20:28] <Ben64> ram isn't the only problem with it
[20:29] <daftykins> no it's old DDR2 so it will be prohibitively expensive, plus as i said the kernel has regressed so the motherboard chipset inside it is now useless
[20:29] <DaniKitten> And the manual says: "The HP Mini 2133 can use from 512 MB to 2 GB RAM. The 2140 Ran use only 1 or 2 GB RAM"
[20:29] <DaniKitten> And the manual says: "The HP Mini 2133 can use from 512 MB to 2 GB RAM. The 2140 can use only 1 or 2 GB RAM"
[20:29] <Ben64> the cpu itself is slower than a pentium 3
[20:30] <DaniKitten> Yeah... the CPU
[20:30] <DaniKitten> My CPU
[20:30] <DaniKitten> the expensive CPU now is trash
[20:30] <Ben64> "expensive"
[20:32] <DaniKitten> About 450 US dollars
[20:33] <Ben64> in 2008?
[20:33] <daftykins> you have enquired about this same system multiple times - and multiple users have given the same advice each time, nobody can in good conscience suggest that keeping that system for Linux use is a wise decision
[20:33] <DaniKitten> That PC is 2008, is a big reason for still having it
[20:34] <daftykins> based on what?
[20:34] <DaniKitten> Someday, will be known as "One of the first laptops being Mini"
[20:34] <DaniKitten> Just think on those PCs with 1 MB RAM or less
[20:34] <daftykins> i disagree, i was supporting ultraportables from Sony for years before netbooks came out
[20:34] <Ben64> netbooks had a tiny window where they were worthwhile. before phones got really good, and before tablets existed
[20:35] <DaniKitten> Now the people spend a lot of money buying too new machines, while I better want to save money... maybe on a laptop
[20:35] <DaniKitten> A 2015 or older laptop because "Older is cheaper"
[20:35] <Ben64> laptops aren't really good choices on saving money
[20:36] <DaniKitten> Yeah
[20:36] <daftykins> however less than $200 US can buy a far more capable system than a netbook
[20:37] <DaniKitten> But, I will buy a laptop, because smartphones aren't IBM PC compatible
[20:44] <DaniKitten> Well, thanks for the info. Bye