| rustybofh | hi folks | 01:43 |
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| rustybofh | anybody could tell me where could i find info about install ubuntu 16.04 on nexus 4? | 01:43 |
| rustybofh | nobody? | 01:52 |
| k1l | ota10 is still based on 15.10 iirc. | 01:53 |
| rustybofh | yeah i know | 01:54 |
| rustybofh | but i can see at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ there are images for mako | 01:54 |
| rustybofh | and i believe that i could flash it on nexus 4 | 01:55 |
| rustybofh | maybe i'm wrong.. | 01:55 |
| k1l | looks like automated builds. if you want you could try that but i dont know if that will work at all :) | 01:57 |
| rustybofh | hehehe ok | 01:57 |
| rustybofh | maybe its better to wait to ota-10 tomorrow | 01:57 |
| rustybofh | :) | 01:57 |
| rustybofh | so, anybody try yet ota-10? | 02:10 |
| k1l | i did not get offered to upgrade yet on mako, due to the bug blocking it still | 02:11 |
| rustybofh | yeah, i readed about that | 02:34 |
| rustybofh | readed that tomorrow will be available, isn't it? | 02:34 |
| k1l | last info i saw in here was: we are working on it and hope to push it tomorrow | 02:39 |
| streondj | hey whats the best way to upgrade to ubuntu touch? I think I'm running trusty taher. | 02:53 |
| streondj | am getting issue: | 02:54 |
| streondj | gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad-videoparsers : Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 (= 1.2.4-1~ubuntu1) but 1.4.0-1 is to be installe | 02:54 |
| k1l | streondj: ubuntu and ubuntu-touch are two different systems right now. | 02:55 |
| streondj | oh, well I have a touch screen.. is there any way I can use it? | 02:56 |
| k1l | ubuntu-touch is about the os running on the smartphones (and tablets). if you talk about the desktop ubuntu better ask in #ubuntu | 02:57 |
| streondj | oh okay thanks | 02:58 |
| streondj | I'm running on an odroid | 02:58 |
| streondj | anyways seems like I installed ubuntu-touch-session I'll go try it out laterz | 02:59 |
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| Smurphy | I have ota-10 running on my BQ-4.5. Works nice so far :D | 05:01 |
| anddam | Smurphy: how reactive is the E4.5? | 06:49 |
| zoidburg | hello | 07:53 |
| Simounet | Hi there. I'm really impressed by Ubuntu Touch but I miss Whatsapp. Do you know any workaround to make it work? | 08:03 |
| mcphail | Acou_Bass: thanks. I'm finding quite a few performance issues with OTA10. If I was you, I'd stick with OTA9.1 for now | 11:04 |
| Acou_Bass | well im on an N4 anyway | 11:05 |
| Acou_Bass | so wont get 10 yet ;) | 11:05 |
| mcphail | Acou_Bass: aah. Does the N4 lag behind? | 11:05 |
| Acou_Bass | not usually, but theres a bug in the N4 build thats stopped them pushing it out yet | 11:06 |
| mcphail | Acou_Bass: when you finally get OTA10, would you be kind enough to append a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1555674 to state whether the browser regresses from OTA9.1 to 10? Although, to be honest, I'm not sure this is a browser-specific issue. I seem to be getting a lot of performance regressions across apps | 11:12 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1555674 in Oxide "Rendering is very slow when scrolling on ubuntu.com" [High,New] | 11:12 |
| Acou_Bass | sure :P | 11:12 |
| mcphail | ta! | 11:12 |
| mcphail | popey: do you have a link to the neat screencasting script? Does it use much CPU/memory on the device? I'm trying to track down an issue with the phone which may be memory related, and would like to have a video of the steps | 11:23 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15685457/ | 11:24 |
| mcphail | popey: Ta! | 11:24 |
| popey | np | 11:24 |
| popey | i dont see any issue scrolling ubuntu.com on my ota-10 phone | 11:24 |
| mcphail | krillin? Or something with more memory? | 11:26 |
| mcphail | popey: in particular, the page at http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/ubuntu-is-everywhere/ has been giving me problems with graphics popping in and out when scrolling | 11:27 |
| popey | hm | 11:28 |
| popey | krillin | 11:28 |
| popey | lemme try that page | 11:28 |
| popey | mcphail: that page scrolls fine for me | 11:30 |
| mcphail | hmm. Have you been getting a lot of app crashes (? OOM) when switching between them? Or very slow performance of media-hub using apps? | 11:31 |
| popey | not that I have noticed | 11:33 |
| popey | you use it more than I do though right now I imagine | 11:33 |
| mcphail | I've had problems from day 1 with the Gallery app performance, but this is now being duplicated in the music app. And podbird is getting killed if I get a text or phonecall. I don't know if my harware is dying... | 11:33 |
| mcphail | (presumably I'll have a 1 year warranty, and my phone is 1 year + 1 week old...) | 11:34 |
| popey | scrolling is slow for me in the messaging indicator | 11:35 |
| popey | wonder if it uses the old list view | 11:35 |
| popey | get about 5fps | 11:35 |
| popey | 4 days of notifications... takes a while to get to the bottom to clear them | 11:35 |
| mcphail | I think I might reflash 9.1 to see if things improve | 11:37 |
| jgdx | pete-woods, hey, could you comment on bug 1567389 and say whether or not connectivity is gtg for user/pass for openvpn connections? | 11:44 |
| ubot5` | bug 1567389 in ubuntu-settings-components (Ubuntu) "OpenVPN connections should allow username and password" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1567389 | 11:44 |
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| === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | https://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-aquaris-m10 | http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet | OTA-10 out (BQ and Meizu), mako/flo phasing | ||
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| PaulePanter | Hi! | 14:02 |
| PaulePanter | We just introduced S/MIME certificates for emails. | 14:03 |
| PaulePanter | Does the Ubuntu phone support that? | 14:03 |
| PaulePanter | Dekko is the mail client, right? | 14:03 |
| PaulePanter | On Apple stuff you can import certificates. | 14:03 |
| PaulePanter | On the Jolla phone it’s not supported by the default email application. | 14:04 |
| PaulePanter | No idea on Android. | 14:04 |
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| homa | hi my friends | 14:06 |
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| bumblefuzz | so, how close is ubuntu to BetterTouchTool for mac? | 14:42 |
| bumblefuzz | lack of gestures is the only reason I haven't switched yet | 14:42 |
| ogra_ | funny statement to make in the touch OS channel (which works *only* through gestures) | 14:47 |
| dobey | lack of gestures? huh? | 14:51 |
| dobey | PaulePanter: i don't think dekko supports gpg or smime yet; they also have a #dekko irc channel i think :) | 14:52 |
| bumblefuzz | ok, sorry | 14:53 |
| bumblefuzz | it's been a while since I checked in on this stuff | 14:53 |
| bumblefuzz | the last time I tried converting to ubuntu, lack of gestures was why I switched back | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | well, the touch OS only operates with gestures | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | (or the touch UI i shoudl say ... its the same OS after all :) ) | 14:55 |
| bumblefuzz | ok then | 14:55 |
| bumblefuzz | how close is Touch OS to bettertouchtool for mac? | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | dunno, never used a mac :) | 14:55 |
| bumblefuzz | that's what I've been waiting for essentially | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | but it was designed for tablets and phones mainly | 14:56 |
| bumblefuzz | ahhh | 14:56 |
| bumblefuzz | so am I looking for multitouch or similar? | 14:56 |
| bumblefuzz | this is my system: https://support.apple.com/kb/SP704?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US | 14:56 |
| rdp5008 | Hi guys, I'm curious about ubuntu touch. My use case involves about 75% of the time without wifi/data. How does that work with ubuntu touch and webapps? | 15:03 |
| PaulePanter | dobey: Understood. Thank you for the confirmation. | 15:05 |
| PaulePanter | For business use case (and Apple parity) that’s a crucial feature in my opinion. | 15:05 |
| dobey | rdp5008: webapps don't work without network. they are just confined browsers showing a web site | 15:07 |
| dobey | bumblefuzz: if you want regular ubuntu, the support channel is #ubuntu, btw | 15:10 |
| dobey | and there are certainly touchpad gestures in unity7 | 15:10 |
| rdp5008 | dobey so it wouldn't be a great choice for me? How about simple apps like ereader or video player? | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | rdp5008, there are a good bunch of native apps (the two are among them) | 15:11 |
| dobey | rdp5008: native apps should work fine | 15:11 |
| dobey | as long as they don't require talking to a web service or such | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | you can install uappexplorer from the store, that aloows you to filter out webapps (unlike the installed ubuntu store) | 15:12 |
| rdp5008 | okay cool. I need to give it a go. | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | in case you want to make sure to have only native ones installed | 15:12 |
| dobey | how does it know what apps are webapps? | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | i think it checks for "webapp-container" in the .desktop or some such | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | there are definitely false positives for things that just use a WebView inside a QML wrapper | 15:13 |
| dobey | well i guess it doesn't do that for $$$ apps | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | it does it as good as it can :) | 15:14 |
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| dobey | downloading every app and parsing things sounds nasty | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | well, thats just an assumption. ask the author how it actually does it in reality | 15:15 |
| dobey | well, the info isn't indexed in the store; so it's either manual data entry, or lots of extra work downloading things. either way is not fun :) | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:16 |
| rdp5008 | how is the native ereader app? I really like fbreader on android. something comparable that can accesss my personal opds catalog? | 15:18 |
| popey | what are opds? | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | rdp5008, https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll.beru | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | or alternativealy: https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.docviewer | 15:20 |
| dobey | other peoples' documents ? | 15:20 |
| rdp5008 | Hi popey! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPDS | 15:20 |
| rdp5008 | I have my ebooks on owncloud and access them with an opds plugin for owncloud | 15:21 |
| rdp5008 | nothing fancy. just a feed of ebooks really | 15:21 |
| popey | oh, I'd not heard of that format | 15:22 |
| popey | dunno if it's supported | 15:22 |
| popey | unlikely, but you could always file a bug and we can take a look | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | likely needs some backend | 15:22 |
| popey | yeah | 15:22 |
| rdp5008 | I think it might be similar to how ebook apps access feedbooks. I'm not sure how much work is done by the app or if you just need a way to plug-in a link to a url with the feed | 15:23 |
| * ogra_ curses about firefox updates recnetly killing the whole session history | 15:23 | |
| dobey | rdp5008: what format are the books actually in? epub? pdf? | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | after an FF restart i end up with 200 "New tab" things :/ | 15:24 |
| rdp5008 | dboey they are mostly epub | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | you can definitely download them to the device then and view them locally | 15:25 |
| dobey | rdp5008: ok, they should mostly work fine in beru i guess; i don't think it or docviewer support OPDS though. there isn't special owncloud integration yet | 15:25 |
| rdp5008 | dobey I think OPDS feeds can be generated using Calibre too. I'm new to this ebook world. I used to just use Kindle | 15:27 |
| dobey | rdp5008: i don't think it matters how the feeds are generated. i don't know if either support OPDS :) | 15:28 |
| dobey | but i guess if you don't have network most of the time, the books need to already be on the device anyway | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:28 |
| rdp5008 | yes, I grab wifi and download books as I can. I work offshore :( | 15:32 |
| rdp5008 | away from home for months at a time. so cloud stuff is nice | 15:32 |
| rdp5008 | thanks though. I think it wouldn't be too hard to implement. sounds like a fun project. | 15:33 |
| dobey | yeah, sounds like a nice feature | 15:37 |
| Smurphy | anddan: With ota-10, very. Smoother than with 9.1 | 15:42 |
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| pixel__ | hello! welp :D | 18:24 |
| pixel__ | any store people arround? :D | 18:25 |
| pidave | hi all | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | pixel__: you are probably best to just ask your question then anyone about that can help will | 18:26 |
| mike00 | hi, is right that in the today scope I can't see any more the time of sunset and sunrise ? | 18:27 |
| pidave | does anyone know if ota 10 for nexus 4 has been released yet? | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | davmor2, i can't push an update i get "Status | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | Manual review pending" | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | but Automated review for version 0.195: passed | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | 0 Fails | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | 0 Warnings | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | 115 Passes | 18:27 |
| pixel__ | https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4490/rev/195/ | 18:27 |
| davmor2 | pixel__: might be a permissions thing if someone is being asked to review it | 18:28 |
| davmor2 | sil2100: if you are about question on mako above | 18:29 |
| pixel__ | davmor2, it didn't asked before :D | 18:30 |
| pixel__ | thanks :D popey is helping me on telegram | 18:30 |
| popey | it's in hand | 18:30 |
| davmor2 | popey: I was going to say your name as someone who might be able to help but thought it was friday night let him drink beer till he can't stand | 18:31 |
| pixel__ | popey yay :D it's just a silly update, nothing important | 18:31 |
| sil2100 | pidave: hey! It's released but in the phased update stage | 18:31 |
| sil2100 | pidave: all users should get it around tomorrow | 18:31 |
| pidave | ok that's good to hear - thank you | 18:32 |
| pidave | I'm also getting download errors when I try to download Core Apps from the store | 18:35 |
| pidave | is this a known issue? | 18:35 |
| pidave | I've even Erased and Reset - really odd - all other apps download fine | 18:38 |
| sil2100 | huh | 18:39 |
| sil2100 | pidave: which apps are those? | 18:43 |
| pidave | Calendar and Document Viewer | 18:43 |
| mike00 | where have I report a OS bug? | 18:44 |
| popey | mike00: depends which bit of the OS | 18:44 |
| popey | mike00: whats the issue? | 18:44 |
| sil2100 | pidave: hm, ok so that's strange, I thought it might be related to us locking down certain clicks in staging, but we didn't do anything with the doc-viewer... | 18:45 |
| mike00 | translation | 18:45 |
| sil2100 | pidave: could you file a bug? | 18:45 |
| popey | mike00: can you elaborate? :) | 18:45 |
| dobey | pidave: no, it works for me | 18:45 |
| pidave | I've got to go now but yes I will look into that when I'm back online - Thanks for your time | 18:46 |
| dobey | sil2100: locking down clicks in staging? | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | dobey: that's how I call it, basically locking certain clicks in the upload queue and on snakefruit for click-sync to pick up | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | Well, anyway, unrelated | 18:47 |
| mike00 | popey: what do you mean with "elaborate"? | 18:47 |
| dobey | sil2100: yeah, i don't think that's related to the problem | 18:47 |
| dobey | the scope certainly doesn't show you any apps which aren't published :) | 18:48 |
| popey | mike00: where is the translation issue? | 18:49 |
| dobey | pidave: is your storage space full? | 18:49 |
| mike00 | popey: notifications drop down menu | 18:49 |
| dobey | mike00: state the exact issue please | 18:49 |
| pidave | hi dobey - no lots of space - just completed an erase and reset as well | 18:49 |
| pidave | could it be ubuntu account related? | 18:50 |
| dobey | pidave: no, from your previous description it fails after the download finishes | 18:50 |
| popey | mike00: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bugs | 18:50 |
| popey | thats probably the best place then | 18:50 |
| mike00 | popey: when I try to close a notification I see "delete" and not "Elimina" in Italian | 18:50 |
| pidave | ah ok that makes sense | 18:50 |
| popey | mike00: oh, thats somewhere else | 18:51 |
| mike00 | popey: so the link is wrong? | 18:51 |
| pidave | i wonder it its the image version that i have flashed to the phone? | 18:51 |
| jibel | mike00, file a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug | 18:51 |
| popey | yeah, thats easier :) | 18:51 |
| dobey | pidave: no, shouldn't be. but i need to see the download manager logs | 18:51 |
| jibel | mike00, and add a screenshot showing where the translation is incorrect | 18:52 |
| pidave | ok sir - i'll try and get a hold of them for you | 18:52 |
| jibel | mike00, it's a general issue apparently, the string is not translated in French either. Likely something in the sdk | 18:53 |
| mike00 | where have I add the screenshot? here or in the bug report? | 18:53 |
| mike00 | *Italian | 18:53 |
| jibel | mike00, in the bug report | 18:54 |
| mike00 | and what link shall I click? | 18:54 |
| popey | mike00: the one from jibel | 18:55 |
| mike00 | ok | 18:55 |
| dobey | mariogrip: hey. any news? :) | 19:00 |
| mariogrip | dobey: I did some modifying, i'm now testing if there battery is better or just the same | 19:04 |
| mariogrip | from what I have tester so fast, it seems to be better | 19:04 |
| dobey | cool | 19:05 |
| mariogrip | far* | 19:05 |
| dobey | can you update the recovery too? :) | 19:05 |
| mariogrip | yeah :) | 19:06 |
| dobey | yay | 19:06 |
| dobey | i wonder wtf is causing content-hub and thumbnails to be broken for me though | 19:09 |
| mike00 | I submit it | 19:10 |
| pidave | hi dobey - apologies i got impatient and re-flashed the phone which dropped ota 10 on it - core apps now install from the store ok now | 19:12 |
| pidave | FYI the image i downloaded that had the issue was 28 | 19:12 |
| dobey | ok | 19:12 |
| pidave | ubuntu-touch/stable channel | 19:13 |
| pidave | a quick thanks to all - oobe is much improved and i'm noticing a speed increase and new sharpness to the display | 19:13 |
| pidave | thanks to all involved in this update | 19:13 |
| mike00 | bye | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | anyone get the Microsoft Designer mouse to work? | 19:55 |
| ahoneybun | it works on Android | 19:55 |
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| ahoneybun | mm that was weird | 19:59 |
| dobey | indeed | 20:00 |
| ahoneybun | dobey, any reason why a bluetooth mouse works in Android but not Ubuntu? | 20:00 |
| dobey | ahoneybun: i'm certain there is a reason, but i don't know it | 20:01 |
| ahoneybun | right | 20:01 |
| dobey | my jawbone era earpiece doesn't seem to get picked up by ubuntu phone either | 20:01 |
| dobey | but i can pair it just fine to my laptop with ubuntu | 20:02 |
| ahoneybun | but does that uses 3rd party software no? | 20:02 |
| dobey | not for pairing | 20:02 |
| dobey | they have a fancy app that shows upcoming events and such | 20:02 |
| dobey | but has nothing to do with basic bluetooth operation | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 20:03 |
| pat__ | ahoneybun, does that mouse say it has "smart technology" | 20:03 |
| dobey | it works fine on webos on my pre3 too :) | 20:03 |
| * ahoneybun looks | 20:03 | |
| pat__ | which is code for low energy, which does not always work right now | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | pat__, says something about BlueTrack technology | 20:04 |
| dobey | that's their magic lasers thing | 20:04 |
| dobey | nothing to do with bluetooth | 20:04 |
| * ahoneybun should move to stable channel | 20:04 | |
| dobey | but it could be a BLE device | 20:04 |
| ahoneybun | I'm using a N7 if that matters | 20:05 |
| dobey | oh | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | I was just trying to find some bluetooth mouse | 20:05 |
| dobey | i've seen people complaining about issues with bt on flo | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | "stable" = 9.1 was just soooo bad | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | moved to rc-proposed and worked much better | 20:05 |
| dobey | ahoneybun: fwiw, lots of things that are "Bluetooth 4.x" devices, may be BLE, and i don't think will necessarily work with ubuntu phone currently | 20:06 |
| ahoneybun | yea I've found that out the hard way lol | 20:06 |
| dobey | eh, i use rc-proposed on my n5 | 20:06 |
| ahoneybun | I need to ask people what they use | 20:06 |
| dobey | it works great until one time you update and then it doesn't work so great :P | 20:06 |
| ahoneybun | I kinda want to try it on my OPO but major things don't work yet | 20:07 |
| pat__ | ahoneybun, that mouse is smart, le | 20:07 |
| dobey | but should be much better now that mariogrip has one and images are on ubports | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | yea but I like a kinda working phone | 20:07 |
| dobey | i don't know about opo | 20:08 |
| dobey | but n5 kinda works | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | OnePlus One | 20:08 |
| dobey | has been kinda working for like 2 years :P | 20:08 |
| dobey | yeah, i know what it is. i don't have one. :) | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | switching tasks on the N7 is so hard | 20:08 |
| dobey | so i can't say how well it works for using as a phone or not | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | it keeps going back to the home screen | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | *home scope | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | camera, video decode, gps, and bluetooth do not work YET | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | important things to me | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | at least the GPS anyway | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | that is life and death for me | 20:09 |
| dobey | ah, i can't play local videos on n5 either | 20:10 |
| dobey | and no bt | 20:10 |
| dobey | but camera works and gps does now too | 20:10 |
| mariogrip | ahoneybun: I'll try getting GPS working for you in a short time :) | 20:10 |
| dobey | but content-hub doesn't work for me and i have no idea why | 20:10 |
| mariogrip | Also bt for you dobey | 20:10 |
| dobey | i can take pictures all day. just can't see thumbnails or upload them in the browser | 20:10 |
| ahoneybun | mariogrip, I know your working super hard on all your devices :) | 20:11 |
| ahoneybun | so don't feel like I'm pressuring you | 20:11 |
| mariogrip | ahoneybun: ah, don't worry about that ;) | 20:12 |
| ahoneybun | my Spigen R12E work fine dobey | 20:13 |
| ahoneybun | mariogrip, :) | 20:13 |
| mariogrip | dobey: I'll debug the content-hub part now, have you seen any error that I can go from | 20:13 |
| dobey | mariogrip: only errors i've seen have been about the thumbnails. but if you just create a fake contact and try to set the picture to any random picture, it just fails and returns to the "select the app you want to use a picture from" window. don't know if you see the same or not | 20:15 |
| mariogrip | dobey: OH! apparmor="DENIED" | 20:18 |
| dobey | mariogrip: ? | 20:18 |
| mariogrip | that's why, | 20:18 |
| dobey | mariogrip: but why would unconfined apps have an apparmor denial for something they clearly have access to? | 20:20 |
| dobey | and is that actually why content-hub is failing, or is that just the thumbnailer disallowing the image? | 20:20 |
| dobey | i couldn't find why that denial was happening at all, as it makes absolutely no sense | 20:21 |
| mariogrip | dobey: I have no idea. yes, apparmor is disallowing access to the images yes | 20:21 |
| mariogrip | the same thing happens on my opo | 20:21 |
| dobey | ok | 20:22 |
| dobey | hmm. my jawbone is LE it seems :-/ | 20:23 |
| mariogrip | this is weird, why is apparmor denying it? | 20:25 |
| dobey | something with the kernel maybe? | 20:27 |
| dobey | though the rest of the apparmor-related stuff seems to be working ok | 20:28 |
| dobey | pat__: make LE devices work! :) | 20:28 |
| popey | mariogrip: what's the command to flash opo with ota-10? | 22:02 |
| mariogrip | popey: sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable --device=bacon --bootstrap | 22:10 |
| popey | mariogrip: thanks | 22:10 |
| mariogrip | np :) | 22:10 |
| popey | i find it hard to get my opo to retain a charge | 22:10 |
| popey | is the battery life better now? :) | 22:11 |
| mariogrip | popey: oh, my opo seems to be holding 2-3 days no problem, but mine has no sim | 22:12 |
| popey | wow, the screen on my opo is knackered | 22:12 |
| mariogrip | popey: the 5.1 images is really bad battery life, are you using them? | 22:13 |
| popey | no | 22:13 |
| mariogrip | is there a sim in it? | 22:14 |
| mariogrip | how bad is the battery life? | 22:14 |
| popey | no | 22:14 |
| popey | less than a day | 22:15 |
| mariogrip | what channel are you on? | 22:15 |
| popey | same one you originally helped me install | 22:15 |
| popey | never had any updates | 22:15 |
| mariogrip | oh? | 22:15 |
| mariogrip | that's stable channel then? | 22:16 |
| popey | channel: ubuntu-touch/stable | 22:16 |
| popey | version version: 9 | 22:16 |
| mariogrip | could you update to v10 and see if the update to v11 works (v11 is OTA-10) | 22:17 |
| mariogrip | (if you have time) | 22:17 |
| popey | sure | 22:17 |
| popey | sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable --device=bacon --revision=10 | 22:18 |
| popey | ^ ? | 22:18 |
| popey | also, why sudo? | 22:18 |
| mariogrip | yes, and due to fastboot | 22:18 |
| mariogrip | udev rules | 22:18 |
| popey | k | 22:18 |
| popey | downloading now | 22:19 |
| mariogrip | awesome, thanks :) | 22:19 |
| Acou_Bass | hey guys, slightly dumb question possibly... is it possible to package a webapp on ubuntu touch and *not* submit it to the store? | 22:22 |
| popey | sure | 22:22 |
| popey | you can sideload clicks | 22:22 |
| Acou_Bass | ahh, so just make a click but then dont submit it :D | 22:22 |
| popey | ya | 22:22 |
| Acou_Bass | cool thanks :D its not that i dont want to share the love, its just a very specific app for a small community and so doesnt really make sense to publish it | 22:22 |
| popey | sure | 22:23 |
| popey | i have webapps on my device that i never pushed to the store | 22:23 |
| popey | wish the browser let us make them on-device without making a click | 22:23 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah thatd be great, firefox os-style | 22:23 |
| popey | mariogrip: how long should I expect it to sit at the oneplus logo? | 22:24 |
| mariogrip | max 20 seconds | 22:24 |
| popey | been a couple of mins | 22:25 |
| mariogrip | oh, wait it's flashing issint+ | 22:25 |
| popey | its in recovery mode | 22:25 |
| mariogrip | then give it 7 mins | 22:25 |
| mariogrip | the all new recovery is coming when i release 5.1 btw :) | 22:26 |
| mariogrip | then this issue will be fixed | 22:26 |
| popey | adb shell in and it doesnt appear to be doing much | 22:26 |
| mariogrip | then just reboot it | 22:27 |
| popey | ok | 22:30 |
| popey | it rebooted into recovery again | 22:31 |
| mariogrip | popey: then it didn't flash finish i guess | 22:34 |
| mariogrip | I think you need to redo it then | 22:34 |
| popey | k | 22:34 |
| popey | didnt bootstrap, wanted to keep stuff | 22:35 |
| popey | do i have to bootstrap? | 22:35 |
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| mariogrip | popey: no, it should work without | 22:35 |
| mariogrip | dobey: I think I found the issue with the n5 on why it uses so much battery, it tries to suspend but it immediately wakes up again (or it fails to suspend) | 22:39 |
| popey | -rw------- 1 system system 160389198 Jan 7 09:58 log | 22:44 |
| popey | in cache/recovery, ran out of space | 22:44 |
| popey | guess thats why | 22:44 |
| mariogrip | popey: oh, just wipe that | 22:46 |
| popey | right, better this time, i see it unxzing stuff | 22:47 |
| popey | mariogrip: channel: ubuntu-touch/stable | 22:51 |
| popey | version version: 10 | 22:51 |
| popey | :) | 22:51 |
| mariogrip | yey :D | 22:51 |
| mariogrip | now, does it update ;) | 22:51 |
| popey | yes | 22:51 |
| mariogrip | yey :) | 22:51 |
| mariogrip | version version :P | 22:51 |
| popey | 11 | 22:52 |
| * popey hits restart & install | 22:53 | |
| mariogrip | btw, do you know why AppArmor policy forbids access to images (gallery) | 22:53 |
| popey | well, you dont want rogue apps from getting access to your photos and uploading them to the web do you? | 22:53 |
| mariogrip | or more specific the Thumbnailer | 22:54 |
| popey | not sure i understand | 22:54 |
| mariogrip | also, com.ubuntu.gallery_gallery wants to access images to show thumbnails | 22:54 |
| popey | mariogrip: after doing the ota to 11 it's sat at the 1plus logo again | 22:55 |
| mariogrip | popey: it's in the recovery to flash probably | 22:56 |
| popey | I adb shelled in and its doing nothing | 22:56 |
| dobey | mariogrip: ah. do you know how to fix it? | 22:57 |
| mariogrip | popey: humm, give it a minute and try to reboot it | 22:58 |
| mariogrip | I need to update the recovery asap | 22:58 |
| mariogrip | I probably can do it now, yeah sure why not | 22:59 |
| mariogrip | dobey: not yet, I need to find where the issue lays first | 22:59 |
| popey | rebooted and it's fine | 23:00 |
| mariogrip | ota 11= | 23:00 |
| mariogrip | ? | 23:00 |
| mariogrip | (version 11) | 23:00 |
| popey | mariogrip: http://imgur.com/J9IqzL8 | 23:02 |
| mariogrip | popey: \o/ | 23:02 |
| popey | Nice work mariogrip ! | 23:02 |
| mariogrip | Thanks :) | 23:02 |
| popey | mcphail: I'm seeing what you mean about the browser - on the oneplus which is super fast and has tons of ram | 23:04 |
| popey | mcphail: images disappearing during scrolling | 23:04 |
| popey | mcphail: looks to me like it's doing some kind of tile based rendering as individual squares appear and disappear | 23:04 |
| mariogrip | popey: do you recommend an bt keyboard that works perfectly with Ubuntu touch? (I need to do some testing with bt, but I have no bt devices) | 23:07 |
| mariogrip | also, thinking that some cheap chines keyborads might not works with ubuntu touch | 23:07 |
| Acou_Bass | surely bluetooth is bluetooth? its not like ubuntu actually needs to support the kb, just the bluetooth spec? | 23:08 |
| mariogrip | i dunno, never had a keyboard mouse or keyboard so | 23:09 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe me neither... im just making assumptions, probably bad ones :P | 23:09 |
| Acou_Bass | im interested too though - id like a keyboard with it at some point, not too bothered about a mouse though if i can just use the phone as a touchpad when in desktop mode | 23:10 |
| mariogrip | this seems pretty cool, with track pad http://eud.dx.com/product/ultra-thin-bluetooth-v3-0-59-key-keyboard-w-touch-mouse-for-android-windows-devices-black-844386275#.Vwg6n3V953A | 23:11 |
| mariogrip | says for Android so, then it has to work with ubuntu :P | 23:12 |
| Acou_Bass | 8x5 in roughly... trying to think how big that is | 23:13 |
| Acou_Bass | when i first got my ubuntu touch phone i was considering something like those flippy-case keyboards you can get for ipads (but smaller), and y'know basically have a mini 5" laptop-type thing | 23:14 |
| Acou_Bass | but now im thinking...t he touch keyboard is good enough, and when in desktop mode id want a 2-handed keyboard i can touch type on xD | 23:15 |
| mariogrip | Acou_Bass: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/image20160408_231450241.jpg | 23:15 |
| mariogrip | pretty small | 23:16 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah thats pretty cool | 23:16 |
| Acou_Bass | sort of halfway between my two above choices... XD | 23:16 |
| Acou_Bass | not quite phone-size but smaller than desktop size... fun | 23:16 |
| mariogrip | 21 usd is not bad | 23:17 |
| Acou_Bass | heh, looking at that site you linked... didnt know those lazer keyboards were still a thing | 23:18 |
| mariogrip | im at the EU version, but the main site has much more | 23:19 |
| mariogrip | main side sends world wide, but EU sends just to eu | 23:20 |
| mariogrip | + it has free shipping | 23:20 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe EU + free shipping sounds good, though ill check the main site too | 23:23 |
| Acou_Bass | http://www.dx.com/p/rechargeable-bluetooth-v3-0-wireless-slide-out-50-key-keyboard-hard-case-for-iphone-5-black-162431 | 23:29 |
| Acou_Bass | see, i wanted something like that... but obviously not for an iphone :P | 23:29 |
| mariogrip | someone needs to drag me off this site, everthing is so cheap... | 23:34 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 23:35 |
| Acou_Bass | beware the crap thatll break after two uses :D | 23:35 |
| mariogrip | :P | 23:37 |
| popey | mariogrip: logitech k480 | 23:37 |
| popey | mariogrip: it is switchable, so can be associated with 3 devices | 23:37 |
| popey | which is helpful if you have more than one device, which I suspect you do | 23:38 |
| mariogrip | :D | 23:38 |
| mariogrip | thanks :) | 23:38 |
| popey | np | 23:39 |
| popey | ooh, bed time! I'll turn into a pumpkin! | 23:39 |
| mariogrip | popey: me to, it's 01:41 | 23:42 |
| mariogrip | here | 23:42 |
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