[00:30] <diddledan> hah. "In this case the site owners did not update for some time and it resulted in world leaders being toppled and the largest data breach to journalists in history." patching your shiz is important, people! https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/04/mossack-fonseca-breach-vulnerable-slider-revolution/
[06:18] <mappps> hi all
[07:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <davmor2> Morning all you funky cyber hippies
[08:46]  * bashrc_ is more of a cyber punk
[08:47] <Myrtti> bllääähh.
[08:52] <popey> Myrtti! It's Friday!
[08:53] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:53] <Myrtti> but I've been awake since 0430
[08:53] <Myrtti> so I'm allowed to be a bit bllääähhh
[09:03] <davmor2> Myrtti: well if you will get up at OMG it's early O'clock you have no-one but yourself to blame ;)
[09:04] <Myrtti> I wish that were funny, but it's not
[09:04] <Myrtti> because I didn't choose to wake up at early o'clock
[09:06] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happyDraw a Picture of a Bird Day! 😃  🐦
[09:08] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrtFxd9u9Y
[09:10] <davmor2> JamesTait: and look he stole all our dance moves
[09:11] <JamesTait> Pffft!  He's a poor imitation. 😝
[10:03] <bigcalm> popey: have you completed Pixel Miner yet?
[10:03] <popey> hah, you can complete it?
[10:15] <bigcalm> popey: I'm leaving it in the fore ground to get lots of treasure to sell. Maybe one day
[10:17] <popey> hah
[10:17] <popey> it eats the battery
[10:20] <bigcalm> Yep
[10:21] <bigcalm> Somebody needs to buy me this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015ZEPSYI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=LXT6MFP2WUWA&coliid=IHS1CIMNMQ1CI
[10:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: you are somebody buy it
[10:24] <Myrtti> http://www.openculture.com/2016/03/software-used-by-hayao-miyazakis-animation-studio-becomes-open-source-free-to-download.html
[10:30] <foobarry> Myrtti: not linux yet though?
[10:30] <Myrtti> Didn't dig that deep, as I've got little skills for animation
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> i used to use autodesk 3d animation in late 80s to knock up animated customer logos for their computers... went down very well.  great software.  never ever crashed...
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> while i can't draw to save my life i could render a fairly mean animation of a scanned image/cobbled together image
[14:03] <foobarry> check the cassetteboy video
[14:03] <foobarry> https://www.facebook.com/boycassette/videos/470758526446422/?fref=nf
[17:55] <MooDoo> evening all
[17:55] <diddledan> morning
[17:57] <zmoylan-pi> merry christmas
[17:59] <daftykins> \o
[17:59] <daftykins> sad face, bits for my desktop PC upgrade only dispatched yesterday - and no motherboard as of yet
[18:00] <daftykins> i'm going through my Linux notebook right now to prune some old irrelevant stuff, page 1: "how to disable IPv6 in ubuntu 8.10"
[18:01] <daftykins> haha, re-enabling X.org zapping in 9.04
[18:02] <zmoylan-pi> is there a seperate notebook for pulse audio? :-P
[18:02] <daftykins> i don't run desktop Linux so no
[18:03] <daftykins> someone has asked me to look at some Apple toys, soon... >_<
[18:03] <zmoylan-pi> an apple newton? :-)
[18:04] <daftykins> they want to move away from an ISP email account (ugh) to an iCloud account (even more ugh)
[18:04] <zmoylan-pi> drone envy... http://www.gizmag.com/volocopter-manned-flight/42704/
[18:07] <ali1234> i finally got it to work
[18:07] <ali1234> all you have to do is echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf
[18:08] <daftykins> that seems like a bit of an oversighty
[18:08] <daftykins> -y
[18:08] <ali1234> yeah
[18:08] <ali1234> i also got usb working in virtualbox, but it turns out windows 10 doesn't have wifi drivers
[18:08] <ali1234> so that idea didn't work
[18:09] <daftykins> for your specific adapter? that's a surprise
[18:09] <ali1234> might go and troll ##windows with that one later
[18:10] <daftykins> doesn't hurt to check that 'checking windows update' for drivers is on, though it likely will be in 10
[18:10] <zmoylan-pi> you need a wifi cable... :-) http://www.mikeapollo.co.uk/geek-humour/can-you-spot-whats-wrong-here/
[18:10] <daftykins> start -> change device installation settings
[18:10] <ali1234> yes it is on
[18:11] <ali1234> but i don't need it to work at this point
[19:34] <ali1234> results so far: upstart doesn't work, sshd doesn't work, dbus doesn't work
[19:41] <ali1234> X11 doesn't work due to some kind of network error
[19:41] <diddledan> yeah MS hacked their own init
[19:41] <ali1234> basically nothing works
[19:42] <daftykins> what about the stuff they said it was meant for?
[19:42] <ali1234> bash runs
[19:42] <ali1234> you can run bash
[19:43] <ali1234> cupsd works somehow
[19:46] <ali1234> apache doesn't work, so forget about using this for webdev
[19:46] <daftykins> SSH client all good?
[19:47] <ali1234> yeah, as long as you only want to run bash on the remote server
[19:47] <ali1234> anything that uses ncurses doesn't work
[19:48] <ali1234> if you want to ssh out of a windows machine you're probably better off using putty
[19:48] <ali1234> it's certainly a lot easier to install
[19:49] <ali1234> still, this is slightly more useful than OS X shell
[19:49] <diddledan> really?
[19:49] <ali1234> yes. the selection of software that is available and works is roughly the same
[19:50] <ali1234> except unlike OS X, i don't have to put up with outdated BSD versions of tools like tar
[19:51] <ali1234> outside of coreutils nothing really works on either
[20:14] <ali1234> also the ability to use a keyboard with a sensible layout will be useful
[20:15] <ali1234> i won't need to keep a browser window open so i can copy&paste symbols like ~ and |
[20:16] <zmoylan-pi> isn't there a way to alt-nnn them with ascii value of character? used to love that in dos... probably unicode now
[20:16] <daftykins> that's still the only way i know to do some characters :(
[20:18] <zmoylan-pi> alt 156 for £ when keyboard driver not working/configured/installed
[20:18] <zmoylan-pi> fun and games...
[20:18] <daftykins> mmm prawn risotto
[20:22]  * zmoylan-pi has cheeses been chilled for tomorrows d&d game...
[20:22] <daftykins> ooh, are they fine foreign cheese?
[20:22] <daftykins> *cheeses
[20:23] <zmoylan-pi> nah, baby bel. but really nice to nibble on at games
[20:23] <daftykins> :)
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> that with pretzels from lidl, tesco branded plain chocolate and it'll be fine dining... :-P
[20:34] <mapps> hi
[20:34] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:35] <daftykins> allo
[21:43] <m0nkey|web> anyone else see spacex stick the landing?
[21:43] <diddledan> which one?
[21:43] <zmoylan-pi> https://twitter.com/j00zt1n/status/718542884836929536/photo/1
[21:43] <daftykins> indeedy
[21:43] <zmoylan-pi> the latest one tonight
[21:44] <diddledan> ooh, on a boat
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> one slightly scorched boat
[21:46] <Velus-universe> hello im folling this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto and i get to  this bit Make Dovecot listen for authentication requests and it says the code needs to be updated for newer version? can someone help me with this bit please?
[21:46] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server might be more useful
[21:47] <Velus-universe> ok thanks
[21:48] <diddledan> this is why we need a documentation guy
[21:48] <daftykins> mmhmm
[21:48] <diddledan> there's far too many out-of-date documents on ubuntu.com
[21:49] <Velus-universe> yeah
[21:49] <diddledan> some of them reference 09.04
[21:49] <daftykins> been a while since i checked out the community Unreal Tournament edition, downloading now \o/
[21:49] <diddledan> err, 9.04
[21:49] <daftykins> diddledan: wow that new? :)
[21:49] <diddledan> aye
[21:52] <Velus-universe> i think everyone in ubuntu-server is a sleep now
[21:52] <daftykins> is this a simple home mail setup?
[21:52] <Velus-universe> and i want to get this working asoon as atm
[21:53] <Velus-universe> yes and no, it si a simple mail setup but for a server not home
[21:53] <daftykins> so how many users?
[21:53] <Velus-universe> aprox will be about 10
[21:53] <daftykins> small business?
[21:53] <Velus-universe> yes
[21:54] <daftykins> i'd go google apps or office 365 personally.
[21:54] <Velus-universe> i would prefer it on my own server
[21:54] <daftykins> ok, but the cost in time will stack up when you're new to managing it :)
[21:55] <Velus-universe> i have done one before (used mysql for the db and users) but i just want this simple nto like befofre
[21:57] <Velus-universe> i do currently use zoho for my mail but im having to many problems with it
[21:57] <daftykins> never heard of that
[21:58] <Velus-universe> its like gmail apps
[21:58] <daftykins> google
[21:58] <Velus-universe> yeah
[21:58] <Velus-universe> zoho.com/
[22:00] <daftykins> are you sure you can't find an example dovecot configuration for your intended protocols of choice online in another guide?
[22:02] <Velus-universe> mi looking now
[22:33] <daftykins> hrmm ATA bus errors booting a Linux after UT made win10 BSOD - looks like my intel 160GB X25-M G2 has finally died
[22:35] <daftykins> mercy mercy me, she thinks she's 600PB :D
[22:37] <zmoylan-pi> delusions of capacity...
[22:37] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15700253/
[22:37] <daftykins> she's a beaut ;)
[22:52] <diddledan> :-o
[22:52] <diddledan> daftykins: wtf do you do to disks?!
[22:52] <diddledan> you're a bad omen
[22:52] <daftykins> ;_;
[22:53] <daftykins> it is a 7 year old SSD though
[22:53] <diddledan> lol
[22:53] <daftykins> my first ever!
[22:53] <diddledan> fair enough
[22:55] <daftykins> of course now the rest doesn't want to POST and has given up on life, too
[22:55] <daftykins> my own gear loves me so :)
[22:56] <diddledan> good job you're getting a new box
[22:57]  * diddledan finally finishing the night manager. ep 3 - there's nauthies
[22:58] <diddledan> naughties
[22:58] <daftykins> shame only half has been despatched by amazon!
[22:58] <daftykins> yay POST
[22:58] <diddledan> email
[22:58] <diddledan> nobody uses post anymore
[23:01] <daftykins> mmm that's true
[23:22] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mr6ahpmv86bh92j/IMG-20160409-WA0000.jpeg?dl=0
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> i have a grand isa vga card you can have... :-P
[23:30] <zmoylan-pi> i think i might be even able to lay my hands on a cga card if the new system is not up to it... :-P
[23:32] <daftykins> nothing wrong with the card, just can't get to the CMOS reset when it's in
[23:33] <zmoylan-pi> now that is annoying
[23:33] <zmoylan-pi> not even with a pen nib?
[23:33] <daftykins> nah, it's right under the card - and the angle of attack is blocked by the segment segregating the PSU
[23:34] <daftykins> little blighter won't POST again after changing card
[23:34] <daftykins> i don't have the patience for this age gear anymore :)