[00:59] <mk1048> HELP! My Nexus 7's on-screen keyboard is not popping up on login screen after update.
[01:51] <Acou_Bass> :O could it be
[01:51] <Acou_Bass> OTA-10 just popped up on my nexus 4? :D winner
[02:00] <mobile> test
[02:01] <mobile> hi 2 all
[02:02] <mobile> Есть русские на канале?
[02:02] <Acou_Bass> Ahoy
[02:03] <Acou_Bass> ota-10 seems to have gone into nexus 4 nicely
[02:27] <molavy_> hi
[02:28] <molavy_> i want help ubuntu-touch add persian(farsi) keyboard  support
[02:28] <molavy_> where is should i start and how can i do that
[02:28] <molavy_> ?
[02:38] <dobey> molavy_: lp:ubuntu-keyboard
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-phone-users-might-get-a-security-hotfix-soon-please-update-immediately-502750.shtml
[07:23] <luctius> Hello, is it possible to leave a message in the ubuntu-touch notification area for later review by the user from the command line. notify-send creates a temporary notification but nothing appears in the notification area .
[10:08] <jlkon13> hi, i have got some issues with my boot image and i hope somebody can help me; i tried booting my image with the android init binary and the ubuntu init.rc file, everything worked fine, i was able to run adb and use some commands (except ubuntu wasnt booting); as i switched to the ubuntu init binary the device turns on and off all the time; how can i fix this/where is the problem?
[11:43] <mike00> is right that after the update to OTA 10, the battery duration is reduced?
[12:13] <Acou_Bass> mike00: ive not noticed that, but then i only got the update last night... ill report back tonight hehe
[12:13] <mike00> ok
[12:48] <mcphail> popey: yes, not enjoying this ota much
[12:53] <popey> mcphail: oh?
[12:53] <mcphail> browsing is annoying witg lots of lag. lots of app crashes. generally painful
[12:55] <mcphail> Will file some bugs when I go back to work (and away from the puppy, which is consuming all my time) in a week
[13:41] <popey> mcphail: ok, thanks
[14:59] <ahoneybun> I know launchpad is the place for issues but what about UI stuff
[15:04] <ahoneybun> it does make any sense to not let the scopes rotate on the N7
[15:08] <dobey> ahoneybun: what do you mean "UI stuff" ?
[15:08] <ahoneybun> dobey, the scope
[15:08] <ahoneybun> it is stuck on landscape
[15:08] <dobey> you mean the dash
[15:09] <ahoneybun> the N7 is best held portarit
[15:09] <ahoneybun> yea
[15:09] <dobey> unity8 package is where to file bugs about unity8
[15:09] <dobey> but yes, the tablet layout being landscape is a design decision
[15:10] <dobey> you could also add a task to the bug for the ubuntu-ux project
[15:10] <dobey> hmm, i guess the 2012 n7 does not cultivate qi
[15:19] <zubozrout> This is interesting. Will join the discussion as I have Nexus 7 deb (LTE) and there the dash is on the other hand stuck in portrait even thought it is in most parameters the same device. What determines the dash to be in portrait or landscape? (PS. I would on the other hand welcome the device to be in landscape)
[15:20] <ogra_> it is a device specific setting shipped in the device tarball
[15:20] <ogra_> (and there is a bug open about it)
[15:21] <ogra_> bug 1465331
[15:21] <ubot5`> bug 1465331 in Ubuntu UX "[scopes] should Dash rotate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465331
[15:21] <luctius> How does one acces sources of apps and scopes in the ubuntu store for ubuntu-touch from open-sourced licensed projects?
[15:22] <zubozrout> ogra_ Well in that case it would be ideal to let user decide on how he would like to use the device :). Yes, thank for the link ... already subscribed to that but forgot about ti being open.
[15:22] <ogra_> zubozrout, dont tell me ... i'm not tthe design team ;)
[15:23] <ogra_> luctius, all of ubuntu is built from the ubuntu archive ... on an ubuntu desktop you can just "apt-get source <packagename>" to get the source for a phone package
[15:24] <luctius> I know that works for desktop programs, but that should also work for the scopes in ubuntu-touch? do I need to add a repository?
[15:26] <homa> hi my friends
[15:29] <ogra_> luctius, ah, scopes are different ... (as are apps) they dont come from deb packages like the rest of the system
[15:31] <zubozrout> ogra_ One other thing to the UI rotation. Is the bootscreen rotation determined the same way as dash? As I have bootanimation in landscape while the login screen and the dash are in portrait. Seems pretty inconsistent.
[15:32] <luctius> they are 'click' packages right. I assume there is a way to retreive those but haven't found it yet. Also, is uappexplorer.com is the only way to see the ubuntu ubuntu-touch store contents from the desktop?
[15:32] <ogra_> zubozrout, i think thats hardcoded in the recovery img
[15:33] <zubozrout> ogra_ ok :), makes sense
[15:42] <Acou_Bass> mcphail: which was the website that caused all your issues with the browser?
[15:45] <ogra_> Acou_Bass, almost every subpage of insights.ubuntu.com
[15:45] <Acou_Bass> alrighty, ima test it
[15:45] <ogra_> iirc the specific one hw complained abot was https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/ubuntu-is-everywhere/
[15:46] <Acou_Bass> hmm
[15:46] <Acou_Bass> seems OK to me actually
[15:46] <Acou_Bass> theres a bit of a problem with it being too big for the screen halfway down
[15:47] <Acou_Bass> but i zoom out and its all good
[15:49] <Acou_Bass> https://mediagoblin.piecemaker.rocks/u/piece_maker/m/bigger-than-the-rest/
[15:49] <Acou_Bass> see?
[15:49] <Acou_Bass> the page gets wayy bigger there, then shrinks back down after the 'about the author' part
[15:49] <ogra_> yeah, seems someone fixed the CSS ... works here too
[15:50] <ogra_> it definitely didnt last week
[15:50] <Acou_Bass> hehe
[15:50] <ogra_> (images vanished while scrolling etc)
[15:50] <Acou_Bass> weird ;0
[15:50] <ogra_> yep
[15:52] <Acou_Bass> OTA-10 has been fine for me, not much different from 9 apart from the calendar app (i already had dekko + unav installed anyway) XD
[15:54] <Acou_Bass> quick question - the ubuntu PPA for the scope generator scripts... i can stick that on a lightweight ubuntu (eg. lubuntu or even netinstall) right? its not gonna try dragging in unity desktop?
[16:46] <cirospaciari> hello people :)
[16:47] <cirospaciari> the performance in OPO after update to r11 is a lot better
[16:48] <Acou_Bass> cool ;D
[17:01] <cirospaciari> ubuntu touch will support android apps? i read about a android layer, support the most used social networks in all will be great
[17:02] <cirospaciari> able to run with archon its a great idea
[17:04] <ogra_> not planned, no
[17:13] <cirospaciari> i will try convert some apps built in cordova, and develop missing API xD
[17:39] <ahoneybun> any way to change the DPI or something?
[17:39] <ahoneybun> I can't seem to do it with DVI to HDMI
[17:40] <ahoneybun> I think you can rescan on the monitor but it has to be hdmi
[17:55] <zyixc__> Hello, Quick question: what happened to the meizu pro 5 ubuntu edition? Should have been released halfway through march?
[18:01] <dobey> luctius: you'd have to ask the developer of the app/scope in question where to get the source for it
[18:02] <dobey> luctius: you can run unity8 and the store scope on a PC too, but it won't show the same apps (different archs, etc…)
[18:03] <luctius> dobey, ok, thanks. A pity thought.
[18:03] <dobey> luctius: not really; we don't want to try to force everyone to use launchpad to host their code, and there is no explicit requirement that apps or scopes in the store be released under a license which requires publishing of source code as well
[18:04] <dobey> just as they aren't in the partner repository or old software-center based store
[18:04] <dobey> ie, "apt-get source steam" is not going to get you the source code for steam
[18:05] <dobey> it will get you a source package that has some bits to download and run the steam installer, when first launched by a user after installing the package
[18:06] <luctius> true, but that is because it is nothing more than the downloader. But I understand your point.
[18:07] <luctius> do you know btw if there is a commandline client of some sort for ubuntu-push notifications?
[18:08] <dobey> there is no cli tool to emit one, no.
[18:08] <luctius> and if I would like to make something like that, what would be the easiest option? would 'go' work?
[18:09] <luctius> I have a shell script which uses notify-send, but that only displays a temporary notification.
[18:09] <dobey> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide/
[18:09] <dobey> yes, i answered your question on askubuntu
[18:10] <luctius> ah yes, thanks btw :).
[18:10] <dobey> i don't know what exactly you're trying to do there, but i would advise against making / writable and installing extra things via apt that way; instead using a chroot under home (or on an sd card) if you really must install cli deb tools and run shell scripts requiring extra packages
[18:12] <dobey> anyway, must return to my weekend
[18:12] <dobey> later
[18:12] <luctius> sure, thanks!
[18:12] <Acou_Bass> dobey: is that the recommended way to access apt-get on ubuntu touch then, a chroot?
[18:13] <Acou_Bass> ive been wanting to install a couple of X/desktop applications to test with convergence, but dont really want to do the writeable root thing because i like auto updates XD
[18:13] <dobey> "recommended" is to not try to use apt-get at all. if you must compile things on a device or use some cli tools as such, you should use a chroot
[18:14] <dobey> Acou_Bass: the legacy application integration uses containers. i'd say just wait for that to be ready :)
[18:14] <dobey> if you want X apps anyway
[18:15] <Acou_Bass> yeah i mean, im not urgently needing it to happen right this second - just want to test how it works as a 'real desktop' - and unfortunately for now that does mean certain X apps :P
[18:26] <Acou_Bass> just doing some research on this legacy container thing - is it the 'libertine' thing im reading about?
[20:08] <ulrichard> Since two days when I try to start the browser, it quits immediately. Web apps that also use the browser in the background still work.