[00:13] <igor> Which option to use Netflix on Ubuntu 15.10 32bit ?
[00:14] <igor> Chromium not work but not like wine
[00:14] <igor> :(
[00:15] <igor> sorry my english.
[00:15] <Steven_M> Doesn't anyone have problems with sound not working during periods of very high disk activity?
[00:20] <Exagone313> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu from standard GUI installation without grub or at least to keep existing grub/boot manager for default boot, installed from another OS install?
[00:20] <Exagone313> I don't remember if it asks something about it
[00:24] <bossghetto> igor: chrome works if you don't mind proprietary.
[00:25] <igor> bossguetto: yes work for 64bits.
[00:30] <Rhorse> Hi, what dir are the kernels in on a grub-efi system?
[00:31] <Exagone313> on the EFI partition?
[00:33] <TiCPU> I usually have /boot ext4 containing kernels and grub files, and /boot/efi containing grubx64.efi and EFI stuff;  another way is to have the kernel directly bootable from EFI but that is unsupported in ubuntu (but it works on my laptop, I piggy backed GRUB to copy the kernel)
[00:45] <Rhorse> TiCPU: Isn't the default config /boot/grub/efi?
[00:46] <TiCPU> Rhorse, I'd be surprised since GRUB is not the only EFI bootloader
[00:46] <TiCPU> so EFI can't depend on GRUB
[00:50] <Rhorse> I thought that's how it is on my install - can't confirm right now.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Rhorse: /boot/efi/ , not /boot/grub/efi/
[01:03] <pfifo> Hello everyone
[01:05] <Rhorse> Jordan_U: ok.
[01:06] <Rhorse> !Hello
[01:06] <ubuntubuild> Hi. In the second I got my win 10 preview with linux subsystem. And ya, I wanted to try it. But I dont know if im doing something wrong, I seem to have no network connection. ifconfig claims that /proc/net/dev is missing. Ping does not work. apt does not work. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[01:07] <consolejazz> hi. Need to write a `*.img` file to SD card and am using 'dd'. Is there anything wrong with *not* specifying an explicity blocksize (i.e., just omitting the `bs=` option)?
[01:09] <SuperBOP> hey guys acer aspire s3 notebook ubuntu 14.04lts randomly shutting off. not overheating. no consistent cause. wondering if there are any log files or anything i could check to try to diagnose? any ideas on where I could start?
[01:09] <pfifo> consolejazz: not an issue
[01:09] <consolejazz> *an explicit
[01:09] <pfifo> ubuntubuild: is this a wired or wireless network?
[01:10] <Rhorse> SuperBOP: all your log files are in /var/log. I would grep around that dir
[01:11] <SuperBOP> Rhorse: thx
[01:17] <ubuntubuild> @pfifo wireless. I can see the adapter with cat if_inet6 -> "wifi1". But ifconfig wifi1 up did not do anything
[01:18] <poli> Hello all! In a VG with 2 LVs, identical, why would only one of them be activated under initramfs? And why would a lvm vgchange -a y hang right after a "resuming"  for the other one?
[01:20] <SuperBOP> Rhorse: any ideas on what i could grep or...
[01:21] <SuperBOP> nothings showing unusual in /syslog ......checking time stamps in others
[01:27] <pfifo> !highlight > ubuntubuild
[01:29] <tooryasnm> consolejazz, sometimes u can have corrupt data by not setting blocksize
[01:37] <croberts> has anyone got vcenter client to work with ubuntu 15.10 and wine
[01:38] <croberts> that webui is awful
[01:44] <SuperBOP> I heard the hard drive click when it shut itself off if that helps at all?
[01:51] <hk-1919> anyone here
[01:51] <hk-1919> asking for indonesia users
[01:52] <Bayangan> yup
[01:52] <Rhorse> SuperBOP: I'm kind of a non-expert in this stuff, but could be acpi related. Have you tried to disable acpi on the kernel command line?
[01:52] <hk-1919> @bayangan
[01:52] <hk-1919> @bayangan indo?
[01:52] <Bayangan> iya kaka
[01:53] <Bayangan> salah room kaka kalau mau cari user indonesia :)
[01:53] <hk-1919> pake ubuntu versi berapa?
[01:53] <hk-1919> gpp
[01:53] <hk-1919> emang sengaja
[01:53] <pfifo> SuperBOP: that was likely normal for an unexpected power off
[01:55] <Bayangan> 14.04
[02:03] <SuperBOP> Rhorse:  no i have not thanks for the suggestion :) thx also pfifo
[02:07] <Rhorse> SuperBOP: add 'acpi=off' to kernel command line.
[02:14] <SuperBOP> acpi can cause random poweroffs? it boots fine just seems to be if its left on for too long or wake suspends too often. i can try it i just wasnt sure how they are related
[02:18] <trevor_s> anyone know why cryptsetup luksAddKey and luksRemoveKey dont make you confirm the passphrase.... i only had to type once
[02:18] <trevor_s> thats terrible
[02:26] <xoke> anybody familiar with backbox
[02:26] <xoke> having issues updating
[02:26] <xoke> nvm
[02:26] <xoke> Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here.
[02:26] <xoke> sorry
[02:32] <Sputinik33> Hey Hey Guys
[02:36] <Zachary_DuBois> Hi, I am having issues with installing Ubuntu 14.04.4 server 32bit on one of (old) super micro's
[02:36] <poli> Hello all! What can I do if lvm and udev don't activate and map all my lvm lv's and I need one of the unmapped devices to boot? On the initramfs prompt, if I get udev up and vgchange -a y, then I have all the maps I need.
[02:38] <Zachary_DuBois> The issue being when I first boot to the USB (full) install image, it asks for language, I select English of course, and then select install (It hangs for 10min and than continues). Then it asks for language again, but this time, all keyboard input is ignored it appears to have not activity as the system isn't getting warm and my flash drive that normally runs hot is cool to the touch. I will take a picture in a second.
[02:39] <Zachary_DuBois> I have also tried the net boot image where it just claimed us.archive was down when I could load it fine from the command line
[02:39] <Zachary_DuBois> (over the same ethernet cable)
[02:41] <Zachary_DuBois> https://i.destroy.tokyo/IMG_1489.jpg
[02:42] <mfdl> just want to pop in and say that's the best website address ever
[02:42] <Zachary_DuBois> For reference, it is a single core intel pentium 4, 2GB DDR333, VGA graphics, 2USB ports, and 2 gigabit lans
[02:43] <Zachary_DuBois> mfdl: Thanks :)
[02:43] <Zachary_DuBois> *4  USB 2 ports
[02:45] <Zachary_DuBois> This is what I get for attempting an install on Friday .-.
[02:47] <Sputinik33> How its can be, my connection hasnt ssl scurity
[02:52] <Zachary_DuBois> So far, hardware is all passing checks... Hmmm
[03:04] <Zachary_DuBois> I'm trying a net boot again. Hopefully it works
[03:14] <Zachary_DuBois> So, it failed to fetch a package according to the error message but the syslog says it was a seg fault
[03:14] <Zachary_DuBois> https://paste.zacharydubois.moe/view/d92f834d#L974-L991
[03:14] <capocat> ./msg NickServ INFO capocat
[03:17] <Zachary_DuBois> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1546459/comments/10 Going to try this
[03:19] <ash_workz> can one list installed packages with the date they were installed?
[03:19] <ash_workz> (I know I asked that earlier, but I wasn't sure if I was connected or not)
[03:38] <Zachary_DuBois> Eyyy
[03:38] <Zachary_DuBois> It got further than it did last time :)
[03:46] <Zachary_DuBois> IT WORKED
[03:47] <Zachary_DuBois> :)
[03:53] <aneesh> nick
[04:24] <wsirccc__> can anybody help with preseed scenarios are possible. Managed install with local preseed.cfg and remote networking stall. Do not know if preseeding is possible with local iso and in front of a physical computer.
[04:24] <wsirccc__> tia
[04:25] <wsirccc__> using virt-install
[04:31] <Zachary_DuBois> wtf... it can't authenticate packages on the official ubuntu US mirror....
[04:37] <Zachary_DuBois> Anyone know a way to run apt-key update from the install image?
[04:37] <Zachary_DuBois> I am in the shell right now
[05:25] <Sayona> Hi :(
[05:25] <Guest26849> q
[05:25] <Guest26849> exit
[05:25] <Guest26849> quit
[05:28] <xMopxShell> hi, i'm having a strange issue with cron. I have this crontab entry on the root user: http://hastebin.com/eyositoges.mel
[05:29] <xMopxShell> If i copy paste the command into a shell, it's fine. But when cron runs it, the service command returns 'unknown service'
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  hi
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  anyone ther
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  there
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  i wanated some guidenace on how to start leearning the way ubuntu eorks form scratch
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  ie the kernel level
[05:36] <bash_turtle>  actually i wanted to start contributing to the same
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | bash_turtle
[05:37] <xMopxShell> hmm it works if i use /sbin/initctl restart <service> in cron. weird. I'll just use that but i'm still curious why the former doesn't work
[05:38] <bash> hi
[05:38] <bash> anyine there
[05:38] <bash_turtle> nlk
[05:38] <Guest89068> i wanted someones help plaese
[05:38] <Guest89068> actually i wanted to help develop ubuntu
[05:38] <Guest89068> i am insure fro m where to starat
[05:39] <Guest89068> can someone please giode me to the appropriate resources
[05:39] <Guest89068> thanks
[05:39] <Guest89068> please reply
[05:39] <Guest89068> i am waiting
[05:39] <bash_turtle> dsg
[05:39] <bash_turtle> yes
[05:39] <bash_turtle> i too have the same doubt
[05:39] <bash_turtle> someone please guide me
[05:39] <bash_turtle> also
[05:42] <networkhelp> hello, my intent is to emulate virtual hops to induce delay for a network simulation
[05:42] <networkhelp> the machine has 1 nic eth0
[05:42] <networkhelp> not knowing what to do, i added multiple virtual nics eth0:0 through 5 for addresses 192.168.{1..5}.10
[05:42] <networkhelp> for instance, ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.10         ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.2.10 etc.
[05:43] <networkhelp> my destination ip is 10.20.30.40 and i used the route command to add virtual hops as posted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/15703807/
[05:44] <networkhelp> when i do a traceroute to the destination ip 10.20.30.40 the request times out. any help or alternative technique is appreciated. thanks
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> networkhelp: something for  ##networking?
[05:55] <networkhelp> thank you lotuspsychje
[06:14] <BlankSpace> hello
[06:17] <BlankSpace> hello
[06:17] <DroWn> I can't join offtopic
[06:18] <BlankSpace> y cant i send msg to freenode
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> BlankSpace: what can we do for you?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !ot | DroWn
[06:18] <BlankSpace> msg not getting sent on freenode :\
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !freenode | BlankSpace
[06:19] <BlankSpace> i meant the channeel #freenode
[06:19] <BlankSpace> my msgs are not gettingsent thr when am msgin there
[06:20] <BlankSpace> it shows cannot send to channel
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> BlankSpace: try to register
[06:20] <BlankSpace> i have my nick regitered
[06:20] <BlankSpace> already
[06:21] <Shibe> How can I safely upgrade to mesa 11? Not with the oibaf ppa because that's bleeding edge and breaks nvidia card (with switchable graphics)
[06:21] <BlankSpace> and am logged in with that nick only
[06:21] <Myrtti> try speaking now
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Shibe: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset?
[06:22] <BlankSpace> yea now its getting sent.
[06:22] <Myrtti> you need to be voiced as the channel is moderated.
[06:22] <BlankSpace> thanks Myrtti.what did you do?
[06:23] <BlankSpace> Yea but how could i have asked for voice when my msgs were not gettin sent
[06:23] <Myrtti> magic.
[06:23] <Ben64> i think the admins are cool with getting PMs now
[06:24] <Myrtti> not really but I'm on mobile and full explanation is a bit difficult
[06:24] <[Saint]> They'ed better be, with a moderated channel.
[06:24] <Ben64> oh, thought i saw that in #freenode
[06:24] <Myrtti> yes
[06:24] <Myrtti> they are
[06:24] <Myrtti> (we are)
[06:25] <BlankSpace> thanks for the magic magician. xD
[06:25] <[Saint]> TL;DR: +m allows for moderators to still see your posts, while everyone else can't until you get +v
[06:25] <[Saint]> it is pretty much the one legitimate use case for voice.
[06:26] <Myrtti> not quite correct
[06:26] <[Saint]> yeah - there was a fair bit of hand-wavey oversimplification there.
[06:27] <Myrtti> no, it's not just over simplification
[06:27] <Myrtti> you'd need chanmode +z for ops to see the messages
[06:28] <Myrtti> and #freenode is not +z, and no human is opped
[06:29] <Myrtti> so people are actually getting a message that their messages aren't getting through when they're not voiced
[06:31] <ubuntu022> Trying to apt update xenial is throwing a lot of errors. Any pointers on how to fix this? (Behind a proxy btw)
[06:31] <dax> ubuntu022: /join #ubuntu+1 for pre-release ubuntu discussion/support
[06:32] <elGALL0> any recommended apps /tweaks for a 14.04 server?
[06:34] <elGALL0> also any tuts on being able to remotely log in to my server . not VNC exactly.. more of www.stupidwebnamebuntuserver.net:8081 to view my sickbear setup from outside my wifi network
[06:34] <ubuntu022> @dax thanks.
[06:36] <Ben64> elGALL0: ssh to log in remotely
[06:38] <cooro> For a better experience, switch to Arch! http://archlinux.org
[06:38] <Ben64> well that was weird
[06:46] <Babbe> hi
[06:50] <Redbeardt> hey all.. anyone know what might be causing these in my /var/log/syslog? http://pastebin.com/UJjTRF7T
[06:50] <Redbeardt> its spamming them every few seconds
[07:04] <zwl> clear
[07:09] <zwl> quit
[07:10] <guest_peep> So, my friend is on the Ubuntu CD helper right now, we were trying to do this, since we didn't have a actual disk to burn.
[07:11] <guest_peep> There seems to be a commandline, but it
[07:11] <guest_peep> cannot execute "ifconfig"
[07:12] <Redbeardt> what you tryin to do? :3
[07:12] <guest_peep> install Ubuntu
[07:12] <Redbeardt> oh
[07:12] <Redbeardt> just a command line eh?
[07:12] <Redbeardt> funny
[07:13] <guest_peep> without Disk. This dude has really crappy internet, and it cuts off a lot. He currently has Windows XP desktop.
[07:13] <auronandace> guest_peep: you don't need a cd, you can put it on a usb
[07:13] <Redbeardt> oh hah
[07:13] <Redbeardt> yea
[07:13] <guest_peep> auronandace, IF your motherboard can do othat
[07:13] <guest_peep> which it can't
[07:13] <Redbeardt> if he has windows xp it might be a bit old school
[07:14] <auronandace> guest_peep: i think you can use the plop bootloader on a cd to boot from the usb if the bios doesn't support it
[07:15] <guest_peep> yes, I'm trying to look for a good solution to put on this piece of crap
[07:15] <sad> Hi
[07:16] <sad> how can i unpak a tar.gz file?
[07:16] <guest_peep> sad, can you use Google?
[07:16] <sad> yes
[07:17] <guest_peep> auronandace, is there a command for pulling Ubuntu files off of the hard drive, and contuing installation?
[07:17] <guest_peep> the "shutdown" command works.
[07:17] <guest_peep> sorry, "poweroff"
[07:18] <guest_peep> sad, "tar -xzf <example_file_name>.tar.gz"
[07:19] <elGALL0> another issue, created user1 made /etc/fstab/ using UUID  which mounted all my internal drives
[07:19] <sad> thanks
[07:19] <elGALL0> created user2 and deleted user1 and now my drives wont mount
[07:19] <elGALL0> when i run $fdisk -l
[07:20] <elGALL0> i get "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. Disk Identifier: 0x00000000"
[07:20] <Ben64> fdisk -l doesn't mount anything
[07:20] <elGALL0> I but blkid gives me the correct UUID
[07:20] <elGALL0> that i have set up in /etc/fstab
[07:21] <Ben64> elGALL0: try "sudo mount -a"
[07:21] <elGALL0> i can "manually" mount with $sudo mount /dev/sdc1 etc for
[07:21] <elGALL0> hmmm
[07:21] <elGALL0> anyway i can get that to run while starting up and bypass fstab?
[07:21] <Ben64> that command reads fstab and mounts everything there
[07:21] <elGALL0> or ignore fstab, and run $sudo mount -a
[07:21] <elGALL0> once i log in?
[07:22] <Ben64> it's like you didn't see what i just wrote
[07:22] <elGALL0> my ubuntu box is server that i want to login withou
[07:22] <elGALL0> ah yes
[07:22] <elGALL0> i just saw when you pinged me.
[07:23] <Redbeardt> I swear every time I run apt-get update theres more stuff
[07:23] <elGALL0> when i restart though i have to type S to skip mounting all the drives
[07:23] <guest_peep> Redbeardt, do you have a solution for my problem?
[07:23] <Ben64> elGALL0: then maybe the drives aren't ready yet?
[07:23] <Redbeardt> sorry i had to reboot
[07:23] <Redbeardt> may have msised some details
[07:23] <elGALL0> they were working before i created the new user
[07:23] <guest_peep> can I get Ubuntu installation running by any commands?
[07:24] <elGALL0> acutally this problem started after i deleted user1
[07:24] <guest_peep> Like, pulling files from the hard drive?
[07:24] <Redbeardt> can't you install from windows using wufi?
[07:24] <Redbeardt> or whatever its called
[07:24] <Ben64> elGALL0: can you pastebin your fstab
[07:24] <Redbeardt> hha
[07:24] <auronandace> wubi is not supported and very much not recommended
[07:24] <Redbeardt> Wubi!
[07:24] <elGALL0> yes, standby
[07:24] <Redbeardt> ah ok auro
[07:24] <Redbeardt> i haven't tried it
[07:25] <Redbeardt> my system has eufi so i just formatted a fat32 partition about 2gb, copied the contents of the iso onto it and booted from it then installed from there
[07:25] <guest_peep> Redbeardt, bad internet. Disconnects a lot, so you have to COMPLETELY restart downloads OFTEN before they finish
[07:25] <Redbeardt> but im guessing your friend's compy with winxo has bios, not uefi
[07:25] <Redbeardt> that sounds painful
[07:25] <guest_peep> Bad_Dream, this is an old piece of crap. eufi is too new
[07:25] <Redbeardt> you ought to find some sort of download app that auto resumes
[07:25] <Redbeardt> or something
[07:26] <elGALL0> https://gist.github.com/elgallo/d01aaba83cb8da91d47de586b2d5799c
[07:26] <Ben64> elGALL0: really strange options you have there
[07:27] <guest_peep> Redbeardt, what commands are executable in the CD boot helper?
[07:27] <elGALL0> i was going off a askubuntu thing for 12.XX
[07:27] <Redbeardt> tbh im a bit perplexed as to why you only have a command line!
[07:27] <elGALL0> couldnt find anything that served what isseus i was having
[07:27] <Ben64> elGALL0: and those UUIDs don't seem long enough
[07:27] <elGALL0> https://gist.github.com/elgallo/ccd6de3dc9673126c705e36bc03906e0 theres my blkid if
[07:28] <Redbeardt> i'd imaigne a whole host of commands would be usable though
[07:28] <guest_peep> Redbeardt, there's other things shown, just I can only get vocal description of the screen from this friend.
[07:28]  * elGALL0 shrug
[07:28] <Redbeardt> oh man
[07:28] <Redbeardt> what a tough situation lol
[07:28] <elGALL0> just going off blkid output
[07:29]  * elGALL0 facepalm
[07:29] <elGALL0> i think the uid might be the issue
[07:29] <elGALL0> as thats the user i deleted
[07:29] <Ben64> maybe
[07:29] <elGALL0> and i am now "nasgallo"
[07:29] <Ben64> or any of the other weird options
[07:30] <elGALL0> what would one normaly use for a ntfs mount?
[07:30] <Redbeardt> sorry guest_peep but i'm not sure about your friend's situation.. I just went thru a tonne of install issues myself but your friend's soudsvery different
[07:30] <Ben64> defaults
[07:30] <elGALL0> i need it to be visibile/writable by OS X
[07:30] <elGALL0> thats it?
[07:30] <Ben64> this is ubuntu
[07:30] <elGALL0> i'm only about a month into ubuntu coming from over a decade of OS X and ocassionaly terminal usage
[07:31] <guest_peep> Redbeardt, can I install Grub, boot to XP then put all the files extracted from the ISO to the hard drive C:\ ??
[07:31] <guest_peep> Then, reboot and select "Ubuntu" on Grub?
[07:32] <Ben64> guest_peep: you need to boot the ubuntu iso, either from a written cd/dvd or from a usb drive
[07:33] <elGALL0> ok and one last thing, how do i get my box to automatically login without a password? theres only one user and no guests
[07:33] <kalexyco> re
[07:33] <guest_peep> Ben64, no CD/DVD, motherboard can't boot from flash drive. It boots from: "hard drive" "CD ROM" "floppy disk"
[07:34] <Ben64> i guess you could write the iso to a 2nd hard drive and install from that
[07:35] <guest_peep> There isn't a 2nd hard drive. There is a flash drive, thought, but the motherboard...
[07:35] <guest_peep> though*
[07:39] <guest_peep> Ben64, is there a command for executing a ISO file?
[07:40] <Ben64> iso files aren't executable
[07:41] <guest_peep> Ben64, how about establishing wireless connection to Wi-Fi and downloading from Archive server?
[07:41] <Ben64> to accomplish what
[07:41] <guest_peep> installing Ubuntu desktop
[07:41] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: I'm still unclear on your friends current situation. What are they booted into currently? Why aren't they in this channel themselves to avoid the game of telephone?
[07:41] <Ben64> i've already explained how to install ubuntu. you need to write the iso to something, and boot from that something
[07:42] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, they are booted from CD boot helper
[07:44] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: Ok, so you're at a command line. What is the prompt?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: And again, why isn't your friend in the channel themselves? (possibly with their phone or another computer).
[07:44] <guest_peep> using...Daemon tools
[07:45] <devslash> is there an easy way to share files between 2 Ubuntu desktops
[07:45] <guest_peep> and Team Viewer, I executed the Ubuntu installer from XP, installed CD Boot Helper, rebooted computer.
[07:46] <guest_peep> devslash, "wget" and "apache".
[07:46] <guest_peep> devslash, using the HTTP protocol.
[07:46] <devslash> apache ? i dont want to set up a server
[07:47] <Jordan_U> devslash: scp and sshfs are also easy to setup (but require that openssh-server be installed on at least one machine).
[07:47] <Ben64> devslash: sshfs, samba, nfs, flash drive
[07:47] <BlackRainbow_> *** Help me please *** I've tried asking on askubuntu.com and didn't get any answers: I'm trying to install NVIDIA driver to my Asus laptop, which has i3 4005u and GT840M. I've installed Ubuntu 14.04.04 and tried all available drivers in "Additional Drivers", but when I restart, I get black screen. If I start it in NOMODESET, I get a low resolution graphical login screen, but if I enter my password and log in, the screen blinks and
[07:47] <BlackRainbow_> I'm back to the login screen. I've included the Xorg.log here: http://pastebin.com/sTHZsZqG Please help, I've been searching for weeks now, and I cannot use my laptop.
[07:48] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, "What is the prompt?" What do you mean?
[07:50] <auronandace> guest_peep: thee prompt is where you input commands. are you looking at a terminal with a rompt ending in #
[07:50] <pflanze> Why is the Ubuntu file manager unmounting filesystems lazily?
[07:51] <pflanze> I click on the unmount button, it goes away immediately, I check on the command line and df doesn't show the filesystem anymore.
[07:51] <MonkeyDust> pflanze  define 'lazily' and which file manager
[07:51] <pflanze> But it's still writing.
[07:51] <pflanze> The default one.
[07:51] <Ben64> how can you tell it's still writing
[07:52] <pflanze> So I unplugged the drive because even though it was still blinking (not my drive, didn't know if that really meant it was unfinished), because normally when you don't see the filesystem in df then it's flushed.
[07:52] <pflanze> Ben64, it was blinking, and unplugging it made the kernel issue I/O errors.
[07:52] <guest_peep> auronandace, no, it does not end in "#"
[07:53] <guest_peep> or "$" or ">", apparently
[07:53] <pflanze> Another odd issue was, that I couldn't copy a file using drag& drop to the disk, the file manager said it was read only.
[07:53] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: The prompt is whatever is to the left of whatever commands you would enter. Possible prompts include "username@host:~$ ", "root@host:~#", "grub> ", "rescue> ", "busybox$ ".
[07:53] <pflanze> But I could open a terminal as normal user and "cp" the file there with no problem.
[07:54] <pflanze> I'm a Debian user normally, just using this shared Ubuntu station when necessary.
[07:55] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: You still haven't answered why your friend can't join the channel directly. It seems like there is a lot of delay getting answers to what should be quick questions.
[07:55] <pflanze> MonkeyDust, re definition of what I mean with lazily, what the "-l" option to the "umount" does. (man umount)
[07:55] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, "busybox"
[07:56] <guest_peep> "busybox" without dollar ("$")
[07:56] <pflanze> or, "man 2 umount": MNT_DETACH
[07:58] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: Great. That means that you've successfully booted the kernel (probably because "CD boot helper" copied the kernel to your Windows partition). This means that if you use unetbootin or a similar tool to get Ubuntu's installer onto a LiveUSB, the kernel and initramfs (which are loaded from your internal drive) should be able to find and boot from the squashfs image on the USB, because by that tim
[07:58] <Jordan_U> e the linux kernel will be using its own drivers to access the USB drive, so it doesn't matter that your BIOS doesn't support USB.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: And while it seems like this may work out for you this time, I strongly recommend against using "CD boot helper" in the future. It's a relic from the ugly hack that was Wubi, and hardly anyone is familiar with it.
[08:00] <guest_peep> What's the next move?
[08:01] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, thank you for that info.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: You're welcome. Do you understand what the "next move" is now?
[08:02] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, no.
[08:03] <pflanze> MonkeyDust,  about says "Files", in Unity, Ubuntu 14.04
[08:03] <pflanze> (LTS)
[08:04] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: Follow this guide to properly put the Ubuntu installer onto a USB drive: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows then try the entry that "CD boot helper" created again. This time the entry will likely work. (Again, I know your BIOS doesn't support USB, it doesn't need to for this)
[08:05] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, that's already done. Now, the part where I use both boot helper and the stick...?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: You already have a USB drive which has been prepared with "Universal USB installer"?
[08:06] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, yes.
[08:06] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: Was it plugged in when your friend booted and was dropped to a busybox shell?
[08:07] <guest_peep> aw crap!!!
[08:07] <guest_peep> I put Puppy Linux on it, then I put Linux CD boot helper.
[08:08] <guest_peep> No, Ubuntu's CD boot helper, sorry.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: It needs to be exactly the same version of Ubuntu from which you installed "CD boot helper".
[08:08] <BlackRainbow_> *** Help me please *** I've tried asking on askubuntu.com and didn't get any answers: I'm trying to install NVIDIA driver to my Asus laptop, which has i3 4005u and GT840M. I've installed Ubuntu 14.04.04 and tried all available drivers in "Additional Drivers", but when I restart, I get black screen. If I start it in NOMODESET, I get a low resolution graphical login screen, but if I enter my password and log in, the screen blinks and
[08:08] <BlackRainbow_> I'm back to the login screen. I've included the Xorg.log here: http://pastebin.com/sTHZsZqG Please help, I've been searching for weeks now, and I cannot use my laptop. Currently the NVIDIA 352 is installed.
[08:10] <alkisg> BlackRainbow_: in the login screen, type alt+ctrl+f1, login, then run sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bad
[08:10] <alkisg> Then reboot, you should then be able to go to the additional drivers dialog again...
[08:11] <BlackRainbow_> But the nouveau enabled?
[08:11] <alkisg> To reach the login screen, put nomodeset, while after removing xorg.con than yes nouveau will get loaded
[08:12] <alkisg>  (by rebooting without nomodeset)
[08:12] <BlackRainbow_> If I open the NVIDIA X Settings after driver install but before reboot and I try to enable the nvidia card I get a blank notification with a red sign on it and an OK button
[08:12] <BlackRainbow_> so I guess it cannot switch
[08:12] <BlackRainbow_> if I remove the nvidia driver in tty1 I get the desktop loaded with nouveau
[08:13] <alkisg> OK, yes I was talking about that part only
[08:13] <alkisg> I don't know which drivers will work for you
[08:13] <BlackRainbow_> apparently none of them, I also tried xorg-edgers ppa and tried all of them
[08:13] <BlackRainbow_> only 304 "works" but it's identified as nouveau and the performance shows it's the intel graphics working
[08:13] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: So are you currently setting up an Ubuntu USB?
[08:14] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, in the process... He's got to wait for it to load.
[08:21] <BlackRainbow_> alkisg: thank you anyways :)
[08:25] <zamba> i have a X session running on a machine.. how can i connect to the session remotely?
[08:25] <MonkeyDust> zamba  with ssh
[08:25] <zamba> MonkeyDust: the whole desktop session
[08:25] <zamba> windows has rdp, which is a pretty decent remote desktop experience
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> zamba  try remmina
[08:28] <zamba> MonkeyDust: remmina is a client
[08:32] <dcz> hello guys
[08:32] <dcz> i am trying to use vte terminal while learning vala. i created a window and vte inside of it , but i cant type anything, here is my code http://hastebin.com/erogihiros.avrasm
[08:32] <sad> Hi huys
[08:33] <sad> I am trying about 300 years to unpack a tar.gz file but...help me please!
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> dcz  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-app-devel
[08:35] <Jordan_U> sad: Why are you trying to unpack a tar.gz file? What is your end goal?
[08:36] <sad> to install and use a new theme from gnome look
[08:37] <uebera||> Hi! There's no mariadb-galera-server package for Xenial (it's said that only starting with v10.1 the server package includes this functionality, but Xenial only has v10.0) and "/usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown variable 'wsrep_provider=/usr/lib/galera/libgalera_smm.so'" tells me something is missing. What to install? Wily packages?
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> uebera||  #ubuntu+1 for xenial support
[08:38] <Jordan_U> sad: Is this a theme intended for use with Gnome Shell or Unity?
[08:38] <sad> xfce
[08:39] <Redbeardt> Ubuntu is so hard. I seem to constantly stuff up my system, have to find  my way to a terminal, and then google fixes. D:
[08:39] <Redbeardt> sure is educational though
[08:40] <Redbeardt> newest hurdle is why doesnt my touchpad scrolling work
[08:40] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: Still waiting for Universal USB Installer to complete?
[08:40] <guest_peep> yes.
[08:40] <MonkeyDust> Redbeardt  learning something new can be frustrating
[08:40] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, he wants to play minesweeper in the middle of it. xD one core processing RIP
[08:42] <Redbeardt> well to be honest, it's a little disheartening too. I understand Ubuntu is supposed ot be the best 'out of the box' free linux distro
[08:42] <Redbeardt> but man.. problems abound
[08:42] <Jordan_U> sad: How have you tried unpacking the tar.gz? "tar -xf /path/to/file.tar.gz" should do it.
[08:43] <sad> Thanks I go do it
[08:44] <Redbeardt> also I just noticed that the guys I bought the laptop off must have forced the base of it back on when they put in the SSD because the base is warped..
[08:44] <Redbeardt> doesn't sit flat
[08:44] <Redbeardt> bit annoying
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Redbeardt: Make sure that's not the battery expanding because if it is that could become dangerous.
[08:46] <Redbeardt> battery.. expanding?
[08:46] <Redbeardt> D:
[08:46] <Redbeardt> .. i better go find a screwdriver
[08:46] <ratrace> Hello. Alt-tab between windows. Which program/package is responsible for that behavior? Unity or Compiz?
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> ratrace  unity is a compiz plugin for gnome3
[08:48] <ratrace> MonkeyDust: so which of the three is controling what happens when you alt-tab?
[08:51] <ijul> hay
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> ratrace  had to switch to unity here ... in ccsm, there's Ubuntu unity plugin > Switcher
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> ccsm is compiz config settings manager
[08:54] <ijul> what should I ask about sorting?
[08:57] <guest_peep> It's too Early in the morning (as in so late, it's early); good night!
[08:57] <Redbeardt> bloody hell!
[08:57] <Redbeardt> cant even install synaptics D:
[08:58] <Ben64> install synaptics?
[08:59] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: 45 minutes later. Still waiting on Universal USB Installer?
[08:59] <Redbeardt> ah im trying to get my touchpad going
[08:59] <Redbeardt> ubuntu is detecting it as a plain old mouse
[09:00] <guest_peep> Jordan_U, I don't want to intrude my sleep any more. Kinda, yeah still waiting.
[09:00] <Ben64> well it is, pretty much
[09:00] <Redbeardt> well it is in the sense that's a device that supports clicking and moving a cursor yes :p
[09:00] <Redbeardt> but then there's multitouch functionality
[09:01] <Redbeardt> i'm mostly trying to get the two-finger scrolling going
[09:01] <Jordan_U> guest_peep: OK. I'm going to sleep soon myself, but I'm curious to see if this works. Please keep me updated (I'll look at the messages tomorrow).
[09:01] <Guest18509> Is it a good idea to initialize a new disk with GPT?
[09:01] <dcz> MonkeyDust : thank you i will try there
[09:01] <Guest18509> I'm seeing confusing content on the net
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> dcz  there's even a #vala channel, but it looks inactive   <-- FWIW
[09:03] <DirtyCajun> can someone look at this smartctl reading and tell me how bad it is? http://termbin.com/egxn
[09:03] <DirtyCajun> it looks like just the 1 drive is bad
[09:04] <GamesbydoTV> hi
[09:05] <DirtyCajun> it says that it passed but there a lot of flags...
[09:05] <GamesbydoTV> ???
[09:05] <dcz> yeah its inactive
[09:05] <Redbeardt> Can I turn off all the join messages in the freenode web client? :p
[09:05] <GamesbydoTV> ??
[09:06] <GamesbydoTV> How are you???
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Guest18509: I can't think of any reason not to use GPT unless you want to install BIOS based Windows on it (BIOS Based GNU/Linux will be fine on GPT), and if it's larger than 2 TiB then it should have come with a GPT label to begin with.
[09:07] <GamesbydoTV> is here trevor???
[09:07] <full_throttle> what is the mint support channel
[09:07] <Sayona> Hi :(
[09:07] <Jordan_U> !mint | full_throttle
[09:07] <Sayona> is anyone here how have problems with nvidia driver?
[09:07] <GamesbydoTV> hi
[09:07] <full_throttle> thanks
[09:08] <Jordan_U> GamesbydoTV: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[09:08] <GamesbydoTV> no
[09:08] <full_throttle> great that channel has like 2 people
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> Redbeardt  http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[09:09] <Guest18509> Jordan, I'm also going to use this drive among 3 others; one of which already contains windows 10 (the os I'm using currently)
[09:09] <Jordan_U> GamesbydoTV: This channel is only for Ubuntu support discussion, so please take any other messages elsewhere (like #ubuntu-offtopic ).
[09:09] <Guest18509> Is it still a good idea?
[09:09] <GamesbydoTV> I have slow internet
[09:09] <Redbeardt> ily monkeydust
[09:09] <Redbeardt> nice link too :o
[09:09] <GamesbydoTV> can i fix it???
[09:09] <Sayona> :(
[09:09] <Guest18509> If I want to do anything else with the GPT initialized drive, will I be up a creek?
[09:10] <Redbeardt> that little button in the topleft was very inconscpicuous
[09:10] <Redbeardt> huh I just noticed I can 'dock' windows in ubuntu by mashing them up against the far right of the screen
[09:10] <Redbeardt> would be nice if I could super+right for this like in windows 7+
[09:10] <Jordan_U> Guest18509: Yes, Windows can read from GPT drives just fine, and on UEFI machines Windows can even boot from GPT drives.
[09:11] <GamesbydoTV> This is not a normal chat???
[09:11] <Guest18509> Why do I see articles of people having trouble?
[09:11] <GamesbydoTV> :)
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> GamesbydoTV  type /topic
[09:11] <Jordan_U> GamesbydoTV: What version of Ubuntu are you using? Are you expecting your internet connection to be faster?
[09:11] <Guest18509> I'm getting so many conflicting standpoints that i want to be sure I won't regret this later.
[09:12] <GamesbydoTV> i dont know
[09:12] <Sayona> Hi, I install nvidia driver and give me blackscreen where is login screen...
[09:12] <Jordan_U> Guest18509: Give me any of the arguments against GPT (other than what I've already said) and I'll probably be able to refute them.
[09:12] <GamesbydoTV> type /topic
[09:13] <GamesbydoTV> I have maximum wifi
[09:13] <Guest18509> I'm happy I got some feedback from you Jordan. I don't think I want to link that here. Perhaps we can PM
[09:14] <Redbeardt> I have that problem too, Sayona
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Guest18509: I prefer to keep discussion in-channel and I'm not sure why you'd not want to post the links in the channel, but if you feel that's neccessary then OK.
[09:14] <Redbeardt> Still looking for a resolution
[09:14] <Sayona> Redbeardt: and how whe fix it?
[09:15] <Guest18509> No, I don't think that, but you asked me to show you. I don't mind that, since I'm merely looking for clarification. If everything should be okay, then I won't mind the other articles
[09:16] <Redbeardt> I've been reverting it with 'sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*' and then 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-common'
[09:16] <Redbeardt> but no idea how to actually make the driver work yet
[09:16] <Sayona> :(
[09:18] <Redbeardt> :<
[09:20] <Sayona> uff
[09:21] <guest1110101> I'm going to try and stay in touch while I do a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10
[09:21] <guest1110101> thanks jordan
[09:23] <guest1110101> hmm it's saying reboot and select proper boot device
[09:23] <guest1110101> I thought this would work
[09:24] <Sayona> I want to personalize my desktop, is a way to see a tutorial?
[09:24] <robattila256> yeah look up i3wm and conky
[09:25] <guest1110101> How do I format a secondary disk on Windows 10 so that when I unplug the Sata cable and boot from cd, it would work?
[09:25] <Sayona> what?
[09:30] <guest1110101> I'm having trouble finding the information I require to make this function..
[09:33] <guest1110101> I'm trying to install Linux on a blank hard drive.. any help?
[09:33] <EriC^^> guest1110101: make a live usb
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> guest1110101  create a live usb or dvd, boot from it and follow instructions
[09:34] <guest1110101> I'm using a cd I created by burning 15.10 on it. the DVD drive connects via USB and not sata
[09:35] <guest1110101> I disconnected all drives but the one I'm trying to load it on..
[09:35] <guest1110101> I have a current as rock mobo with all the right configurations..
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> guest1110101  can you boot from it?
[09:35] <guest1110101> I have win 10 on another ssd
[09:36] <guest1110101> when I try to boot
[09:36] <guest1110101> the blank ssd isn't recognized
[09:36] <guest1110101> I'm b
[09:36] <guest1110101> able to access it from disk management in Windows though
[09:36] <guest1110101> what am I missing?
[09:37] <EriC^^> guest1110101: so ubuntu boots but doesn't see the windows disk?
[09:37] <guest1110101> nah ubuntu won't even install
[09:38] <guest1110101> I disconnect the other sata cables so I don't accidentally overwrite
[09:38] <EriC^^> boot the live usb right now
[09:38] <guest1110101> my win 10 installation on another ssd that is
[09:38] <guest1110101> on what usb lol
[09:38] <guest1110101> that's why I'm going DVD route
[09:38] <EriC^^> and type sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:39] <EriC^^> ok live dvd then
[09:39] <guest1110101> that's great.. I wish I had a prompt to do that in :S
[09:40] <EriC^^> i wish you'd be more clear concise and coherent while speaking
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> guest1110101  are you now in ubuntu?
[09:40] <coolwindy> :S
[09:40] <guest1110101> I don't get far enough to do anything because the output I get after my initial post is that I need to load a valid drive or something
[09:40] <EriC^^> maybe all our dreams will come true one day
[09:41] <guest1110101> I'm confused Eric.. I'd laid everything out..
[09:41] <EriC^^> guest1110101: i thought you said it booted but didn't show the windows install
[09:41] <guest1110101> I wish I could lay out my custom system and show you my disks
[09:41] <guest1110101> I have 4..
[09:41] <EriC^^> "when I try to boot, the blank ssd isn't recognized"
[09:41] <EriC^^> ok
[09:42] <guest1110101> yeah.. essentially it says boo.. try again
[09:42] <EriC^^> how did you create the live dvd?
[09:42] <dcz> i am trying to use vte terminal while learning vala. i created a window and vte inside of it , but i cant type anything, here is my code http://hastebin.com/erogihiros.avrasm
[09:42] <guest1110101> by burning 15.10 ubuntu to a dvd
[09:42] <EriC^^> how?
[09:43] <guest1110101> I downloaded the .iso
[09:43] <guest1110101> I right xlicked
[09:43] <guest1110101> I selected burn to disc
[09:43] <EriC^^> ok
[09:43] <guest1110101> it loaded a prompt and burned it to my disc in my DVD drive
[09:43] <EriC^^> guest1110101: is the dvd first in the boot order in the bios?
[09:44] <guest1110101> yes
[09:44] <guest1110101> I even manually selected it..
[09:44] <EriC^^> what happens when you manually select it
[09:44] <guest1110101> nothing different
[09:45] <EriC^^> are you using uefi?
[09:45] <guest1110101> like I said.. if I can see it and format it in win 10 disk management, did I simply format it wrong? yes I am
[09:45] <EriC^^> secureboot enabled?
[09:45] <guest1110101> when I initialized it I used the
[09:45] <EriC^^> format what? the ssd is not important at this point
[09:45] <guest1110101> alright
[09:46] <EriC^^> try to disable secureboot
[09:46] <guest1110101> shutting down.. going to boot into bios
[09:46] <EriC^^> ok
[09:47] <EriC^^> try with csm legacy enabled as well if turning secure boot off doesn't work
[09:47] <guest1110101> hmm I'm in the boot tab on my nice as rock gui, but I can't see secure boot or legacy
[09:49] <guest1110101> are all bios' supposed to have jt?
[09:49] <Sayona> Can anyone help me with something... I install Zukitwo theme and i want to put the bar from the left in bottom... how i do that?
[09:50] <mohanadvoxo> hello
[09:50] <mohanadvoxo> #debian-offtopic
 hello
 i need some help on my system plz !!
 i have problem when i type on terminal $ sudo apt-get update say
 E: GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org trusty InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> Sayona  gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom
[09:51] <guest1110101> found secure boot in security, and it's already disabled
[09:52] <mohanadvoxo> ok Thanks
[09:52] <guest1110101> csm is also enabled
[09:52] <EriC^^> guest1110101: ok, can you enable csm legacy or disable uefi?
[09:52] <guest1110101> now what?
[09:52] <EriC^^> guest1110101: was it already enabled?
[09:53] <guest1110101> yes
[09:53] <EriC^^> disable it then
[09:53] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: that a 16.04 feature?
[09:54] <guest1110101> it's now defaulting back to the bios settings page after I reboot
[09:54] <bkleef> anybody who knows what happend with php 5.6 in ubuntu 16.04, looks like only php 7 is available atm?
[09:55] <guest1110101> says same error message: no boot device detected
[09:55] <guest1110101> only now it's fancy gui
[09:55] <EriC^^> guest1110101: can you make a live usb?
[09:55] <guest1110101> if I had one
[09:55] <guest1110101> would it change things? my cd drive is usb
[09:55] <guest1110101> it's not sata at all
[09:56] <EriC^^> yeah it could
[09:57] <guest1110101> darn..
[09:57] <guest1110101> what are the chances I didn't format my drive correctly?
[09:58] <guest1110101> it has to be able to write right?
[09:58] <guest1110101> and read
[10:13] <EriC^^> guest1110101: the drive shouldn't matter
[10:38] <varaindemian> Can we talk about something similar to Arch's AUR in the next ubuntu release (16.04)?
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> varaindemian  #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <mintux> i face to strange thing i im in root user but i cant create directory or make file it said Permission denied why?
[10:42] <DeathMD> Hey! Is it possible to install a Vivid package under Wily? If so, how? Thx
[10:43] <Shibe> how can I upgrade to mesa 11 on ubuntu 14.04
[10:43] <Shibe> without using the oibaf ppa
[10:45] <mintux> it's permission of parent directory: drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 Mar 26 20:59 web18 then i cd to web18 and try to make directory: # mkdir test > Permission denied
[10:56] <bekks> mintux: Unless you are root, you dont have permissions to change content in that directory.
[10:56] <mintux> bekks: how does it possible ? and where rule defined ?
[10:56] <mintux> bekks: also im in root user
[10:57] <bekks> mintux: whats the output of "whoami"?
[11:00] <UbuntuDude> Do I have to restart the machine for new keyboard shortcuts to take effect? I setup few key combinations on the keyboard navigation shortcuts but they never work!!
[11:01] <bekks> UbuntuDude: Because those keys are in use already, most likely.
[11:03] <mintux> bekks: root
[11:03] <bekks> mintux: And whats the output of "cat /etc/issue"?
[11:04] <mintux> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[11:04] <bekks> mintux: And whats the full path of that "web18" directory?
[11:05] <mintux> bekks: /var/www/clients/client3/web18
[11:05] <Shibe> !hwe
[11:08] <bekks> mintux: And whats the output of "mount"? Can you please pastebin it and provide the URL to your paste?
[11:22] <Redbeardt> I've progressed from nvidia drivers giving me a black screen, to causing a login loop ;p
[11:22] <Redbeardt> syslog says gnome-session has critical failure
[11:23] <Redbeardt> so bleh!
[11:23] <bekks> Redbeardt: And at the black screen, you used nomodeset?
[11:23] <Redbeardt> correct!
[11:23] <Redbeardt> did i choose unwisely?
[11:24] <bekks> Redbeardt: So what did you do from that point?
[11:25] <Redbeardt> well since i couldnt login I did the old ctrl alt f1 and purged the drivers again
[11:25] <Redbeardt> and here i am
[11:25] <bekks> How did you install the drivers then?
[11:25] <Sayona> pff
[11:25] <Redbeardt> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[11:25] <Sayona> I burn a dvd with photo and I want 2 hours and not finished
[11:25] <Sayona> wtf
[11:26] <bekks> Redbeardt: And which version of that package? And which GPU do you have?
[11:26] <Sayona> brasero burn
[11:26] <bekks> Sayona: USe a sane dvd burning application instead of brasero.
[11:26] <Redbeardt> nvidia 940m is the gpu
[11:26] <Redbeardt> as for the version.. i uh.. dont know D:
[11:26] <Sayona> bekks: this problem with nvidia I have too
[11:26] <bekks> Redbeardt: That heavily sounds like a Optimus card, doesnt it?
[11:26] <bekks> Redbeardt: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[11:26] <Redbeardt> i tried installing drivers via the aditional drivers gui thing earlier, that was my first attempt
[11:26] <Redbeardt> 14.04 LTS
[11:27] <Redbeardt> I dont think its optimus? might be
[11:27] <Redbeardt> I only learnt that optimus existed about 2 hours ago
[11:27] <Redbeardt> oh
[11:27] <Redbeardt> http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-940m/specifications
[11:27] <Redbeardt> apparnetly it has optimus support
[11:28] <Redbeardt> does this mena I should use that 'bumblebee' thing?
[11:30] <sine0> Ubuntu 15.10 apt-get updated, pc tower with lan cable on eth0. I have a problem with web browsing where the browser hangs upon requests to sites. it happens with any browser. if i close down the browser and restart another one it goes straight to the site. its not the internet or hardware as i dualboot and win7 is fine
[11:30] <sine0> it works for a minute or so then i have to restart it
[11:30] <mufy> hey all
[11:30] <sine0> is there a way where i can watch whats going on with the traffic or the latency. I think its the dns somehow.... locall
[11:31] <Sayona> whay burn app i need to install
[11:31] <bekks> Redbeardt: bumblebee is deprecated, nvidia-prime is the way to go.
[11:31] <Sayona> what
[11:32] <bekks> Sayona: so check the DNS. Watching traffic will not help you at all.
[11:32] <bekks> Sayona: k3b
[11:32] <Sayona> thanks
[11:32] <Sayona> :*
[11:33] <dean_> Hey I'm having a problem where my shift is being pressed randomly by itself. Anyone know what this is?
[11:33] <Redbeardt> oh
[11:33] <Redbeardt> roger that bekks!
[11:33] <onatbas> I'm developing a thrift application using openSSL, and the server I'm tryng to connect apparently has unrecognised certificates, I'M getting this expection : terminate called after throwing an instance of 'apache::thrift::transport::TSSLException'
[11:33] <onatbas>   what():  SSL_get_verify_result(), unable to get local issuer certificate.
[11:34] <onatbas> I don't know what kind of setup I have to do on an ubuntu machine to allow connections with that certificate.
[11:34] <onatbas> CAn you help me?
[11:34] <onatbas> I'm stanger to an ubuntu machine :)
[11:37] <PETsounds> Hi. How can i get the actual battery capacity ? i tried running upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 but the results is inconsistent, sometimes i get 94% and the other time i get 92%
[11:38] <Shibe> PETsounds: acpi?
[11:38] <Redbeardt> bekks: people on google are saying that bumblebee offers much better battery life because it switches the device used contextually, whereas nvidia-prime always uses the discrete gpu
[11:38] <Redbeardt> maybe not deprecated?
[11:39] <PETsounds> Shibe: Yes but acpi doesn't print details
[11:40] <bekks> Redbeardt: Using the nvidia GPU is what you actually want, isnt it?
[11:40] <onatbas> Any thoughts on my issue ?
[11:40] <Redbeardt> well sure, when i'm doing 3D
[11:40] <bekks> Redbeardt: Why not always?
[11:40] <Redbeardt> anyway I just installed an nvidia driver, and at the very end it goes "** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no"
[11:41] <Redbeardt> power usage
[11:41] <bekks> Redbeardt: For power usage, you want to either use nouveau or intel.
[11:41] <Redbeardt> exactly
[11:42] <bekks> Redbeardt: Then why do you want to install nvidia, when you dont want to use nvidia?
[11:42] <Redbeardt> but I do
[11:42] <Redbeardt> when it's needed
[11:43] <bekks> Redbeardt: then you have to use bumblebee.
[11:43] <Redbeardt> so it isn't deprecated?
[11:54] <buu> At the risk of being stupid, how do I install https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/bsnes/ ?
[11:55] <buu> Oh, it's called higan now
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:11] <Guest88915> I can't get the steam deb to work..
[12:12] <Guest88915> It's outputting a message
[12:12] <Guest88915> error contact tech support any one else have this problem?
[12:12] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: why dont you use the deb from repositories =
[12:13] <Guest88915> I'm not sure what you mean, however if you mean the software center.. the webpage redirected me to the software center
[12:13] <Guest88915> Before this I tried the normal "steam"
[12:14] <Guest88915> at least i could uninstall that
[12:14] <Guest88915> I can't purge or uninstall this one
[12:14] <micael> how to install .tgz in Ubuntu
[12:14] <Guest88915> It's giving me unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so errors
[12:14] <Guest88915> It looked like it installed just fine at first
[12:15] <Guest88915> So did the previous install though
[12:15] <Guest88915> Neither work, and this one won't be uninstalled
[12:17] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: yeah You cant autoremove steam, if you have downloaded the dep-file from Steam's website. You have to manually remove it. Unfortunately I don't know how to help you with that one :(
[12:17] <Guest88915> argh :(
[12:18] <Guest88915> There has to be something i can do though..  your contribution has given me something to work with
[12:18] <Guest88915> I know less than you though, so I still can't solve my problem
[12:18] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: you can check /usr/sbin/ directory
[12:19] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: there should be binary file named Steam
[12:19] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: you can remove that one but I dont think so that would be all the steam files
[12:20] <Guest88915> Unfortunately, there isn't one in the sbin :(
[12:20] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: okay.... how about /usr/bin ?
[12:21] <Guest88915> Does anyone know how to get steam working on 15.10?
[12:21] <Guest88915> nope
[12:23] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: enable ubuntu extra software repositories from the settings -> Software and udates . And then I think the command should be: sudo apt-get -f install steam-client
[12:24] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: but you have the Steam deb file installed and that should be removed first
[12:24] <Guest88915> unable to locate package steam-client
[12:24] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: try to cmd: which Steam
[12:25] <Guest88915> command not found
[12:25] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: yeah u havent enable ubuntu-extra repos
[12:25] <Guest88915> where do I do that
[12:27] <Guest88915> yeah in software and settings there isn't "extra-w/e"
[12:27] <l0ll1p0p> Settings -> Software and Updates -> Other software -> Partners of Canonical
[12:27] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: sry for the brogen enlgish
[12:28] <Guest88915> in other software I do see repo.steampowered.com/steam/precise steam
[12:28] <Guest88915> and another
[12:28] <Guest88915> (source code)
[12:28] <Guest88915> Not at all, you're English is fine
[12:28] <Guest88915> your*
[12:29] <Guest88915> mine on the other hand requires work :(
[12:29] <Guest88915> okay apparently my software is out of date and is redownloading
[12:29] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: try on cmd: which steam
[12:29] <Guest88915> user/bin/steam
[12:30] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: okay so there is the binary version
[12:30] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: u can remove that one (if you havent installed steam yet in right way)
[12:31] <Guest88915> I don't know how :)
[12:31] <Guest88915> purge won't work, neither will uninstall
[12:31] <Al_tr> Ïðèâåòèê. Òóò ïî ðóññêè ïèñàòü ìîæíî?:)
[12:32] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: yeah because you have installed it Manually not through software repositories
[12:32] <Guest88915> What do I do about it?
[12:33] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: like I said you have to find the steam files manually and then simply remove them
[12:33] <Guest88915> that's it?
[12:33] <Al_tr> Who knows Russian ? .. :(
[12:34] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: one of them is your user/bin/steam
[12:34] <Guest88915> I can't find them
[12:34] <Guest88915> yes, but I don't recognize it
[12:34] <DJones> !ru | Al_tr
[12:34] <Guest88915> it's not named "steam"
[12:34] <Guest88915> I don't want to just randomly delete files
[12:34] <Al_tr> ubottu ty
[12:35] <l0ll1p0p> Guest88915: well ... That's the best advice I can give it to you :(
[12:35] <Guest88915> Someone help meeeee T^T
[12:35] <Guest88915> I have a faulty steam.deb install..
[12:36] <Guest88915> I can't even remove it cause I don't even know where the files are..
[12:36] <EriC^^> dpkg -L
[12:36] <Guest88915> Eric!!
[12:36] <EriC^^> dpkg -L package
[12:36] <Guest57584> hello! I set my ubunt use server to auto update using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates, but now I can't download any updates any more. http://hastebin.com/kuxokotuze.sm <- error, http://hastebin.com/kuxokotuze.sm, start of config file that gives error: http://hastebin.com/uwatubejep.vhdl
[12:36] <Guest88915> We we're talking earlier about installing ubuntu
[12:36] <hexedit> how is it that ubuntu is installed on 60 million devices....where did all that user base come from...or is that a false statistic being reported
[12:36] <Guest88915> I finally installed it
[12:36] <Guest88915> Now I have another problem D:
[12:36] <Guest88915> Steam!
[12:36] <Guest88915> everythings else installed fine
[12:37] <EriC^^> ok
[12:37] <Guest88915> is that command for me?
[12:37] <Guest88915> dpkg -L package?
[12:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:37] <Guest88915> thank you <3
[12:37] <hexedit> is this 60 million ubuntu installations a lie?
[12:37] <Guest88915> no?
[12:37] <Guest88915> I've used it in the past
[12:37] <Guest88915> it most certainly is NOT
[12:37] <Guest88915> . . if anything else it's quite low in comparison to the millions that use Windows and Mac
[12:38] <Guest88915> hundreds of millions
[12:38] <Guest88915> They dominate the market
[12:38] <ikonia> does it really matter ?
[12:38] <hexedit> Guest...you must be out of your mind...60 million is nothing to sneeze at
[12:38] <Guest88915> To that other person
[12:38] <ikonia> I suggest dropping this topic please
[12:38] <Guest88915> ?
[12:38] <ikonia> there is no real sane way to track install numbers, so it's a pointless discussion
[12:38] <Guest88915> I have nothing against Ubuntu nor do I Sneeze at it
[12:38] <Guest88915> Perhaps now though
[12:38] <Guest88915> I have the sniffles :3
[12:39] <Guest88915> itchy nose
[12:39] <EriC^^> *cough* amazon lens *cough*
[12:39] <hexedit> ikonia..well even considering a 20 % margin of error ..that is still a gigantic number
[12:39] <EriC^^> Guest88915: bless you
[12:39] <ikonia> I don't think so
[12:40] <Guest88915> Eric, i can't seem to uninstall the package because I don't have it's name D:
[12:40] <Guest88915> I thought it was steam but no packages found matching steam
[12:41] <hexedit> i noticed ubuntu wants $15 per install now that it is the most popular distro....what do people get for $15
[12:41] <Guest88915> Oh noooo D: Not even the steam_latest can be found
[12:41] <EriC^^> Guest88915: how did you install it?
[12:41] <Guest88915> that's the file too
[12:41] <Guest88915> I got it directly from steam themselves
[12:41] <Guest88915> the download redirected me to the software center
[12:41] <Guest88915> The only option is to "reinstall"
[12:41] <Guest88915> not uninstall
[12:41] <EriC^^> hexedit: where did you notice that?
[12:41] <hexedit> what do people get for the $15 ubuntu
[12:42] <ikonia> hexedit: what $15 ?
[12:42] <hexedit> EriC..the 60 million users is posted on major slashdot news around the world...and the $15 price tag is on ubuntu's download website p
[12:42] <Guest57584> lol "the 15$ ubuntu"
[12:42] <EriC^^> Guest88915: download the .deb file to your pc
[12:42] <Guest57584> maybe a CD?
[12:43] <ikonia> hexedit: there is no price tag
[12:43] <Guest88915> okay
[12:43] <EriC^^> Guest88915: type dpkg -l | grep steam | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:43] <ikonia> hexedit: please don't give miss-information
[12:43] <EriC^^> hexedit: maybe you mean elementary?
[12:43] <hexedit> ikonia it is not miss information...let me give you the link
[12:43] <Guest88915> http://termbin.com/gfzy
[12:44] <ikonia> hexedit: this is miss information
[12:44] <EriC^^> hexedit: nothing here about $15, just download for free
[12:44] <saunamees> Hey, where could I find information on OpenStack alternatives for Ubuntu? They only talk about OpenStack ... Or can you tell me alternatives ?
[12:44] <EriC^^> Guest88915: looks to be installed
[12:44] <EriC^^> Guest88915: did you try it?
[12:44] <ikonia> you are offered the chance to make a donation - the suggested default ammount is $15
[12:44] <hexedit> Eric...no ubuntu asks for a $15 donation....why would anyone deny them this? but what do people get for the $15
[12:44] <LibertyWeNeed> Does anyone know of an IRC channel to discuss political issues regarding Racism and other forms of discrimination?
[12:44] <ikonia> you don't have to pay anything
[12:44] <LibertyWeNeed> I have a friend who is studying this as part of their university course
[12:44] <Guest88915> @saunamees Try Arch
[12:45] <Guest88915> Yes, I did eric
[12:45] <Guest88915> I pasted the link
[12:45] <Guest88915> look up
[12:45] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: Canonical doesn't try to monetize on the desktop, and instead focusses on cloud and cloud services
[12:45] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ http://termbin.com/gfzy
[12:45] <armin> wow, people recommend arch in #ubuntu, not bad.
[12:45] <armin> :)
[12:45] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: for instance I believe they are the most popular distro on azure cloud and maybe amazon cloud too
[12:45] <Guest88915> I've used it
[12:45] <saunamees> Why would I try arch ?
[12:45] <EriC^^> Guest88915: i know, i said it looks installed fine, did you try launching it?
[12:45] <armin> saunamees: too much spare time, for example
[12:45] <Guest88915> I have :(
[12:45] <ikonia> hexedit: you don't have to donate, and you can donate as much or as little as you want
[12:46] <ikonia> hexedit: the fact that it's a donation says what you get
[12:46] <ikonia> I suspect you're trying to troll here - unless you don't understand the meaning of the word donation
[12:46] <Guest88915> I don't even have an icon and can't search for it
[12:46] <saunamees> We are getting offtopic, not what I asked at all.
[12:46] <Guest88915> Eric, why is it hanging like this :(
[12:46] <Guest88915> It won't even launch.. I'm so confuzzled
[12:46] <hexedit> jonathan...well i don't know anything about cloud stuff...nor do i care about cloud stuff....but uh i was just wondering what people get for $15.
[12:46] <jonathan_zz> LibertyWeNeed: no clue if irc is used by non-tech-people. But apart from IRC, I would in that sense recommend Quora
[12:46] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: they get a few beers and pizza.
[12:46] <EriC^^> Guest88915: open the terminal and type steam
[12:46] <saunamees> I am writing a thesis and I use Openstack with Ubuntu to build a private cloud. I have to write about alternatives. What would be these alternatives ?
[12:47] <wodim> Guest88249: Denunciado lince, despedite de tu cuenta maquinola
[12:47] <ikonia> saunamees: that is not what this channel is for
[12:47] <Guest88915> I got erros
[12:47] <ikonia> saunamees: try ##linux
[12:47] <EriC^^> Guest88915: pastebin them
[12:47] <saunamees> Well they will just get angry that I use Ubuntu ... :D
[12:47] <Guest88915> how?
[12:47] <LibertyWeNeed> jonathan_zz, Thanks for your reply :)
[12:47] <jonathan_zz> saunamees: how can you write a thesis if you are not even aware of the landscape yet?
[12:47] <Guest88915> I don't remember how to output them
[12:48] <EriC^^> Guest88915: highlight them, then middle mouse button to paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <Guest88915> http://pastebin.com/uHFsLqKh
[12:48] <Guest88915> got it
[12:48] <age43> afternoon chaps
[12:48] <Guest88915> hello there
[12:49] <ikonia> saunamees: they don't care what you use
[12:49] <age43> is there a command i can use to update the whois server list or do i have to manually edit the config file?
[12:49] <saunamees> Well openstack is quite popular and so is Ubuntu. These were obvious choices for me. Now doing some research into some alternatives.
[12:49] <saunamees> Wanted to try openstack, taht is basically it
[12:49] <hexedit> does ubuntu have liborcus for example
[12:51] <hexedit> i am just wondering if $15 gets them liborcus
[12:51] <Guest88915> stop trolling
[12:51] <toe_> ?
[12:51] <hexedit> Gues88915..it is not a troll it is a question...do you even know what liborcus is used primarily for?
[12:51] <EriC^^> Guest85072: try rm ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/{libstdc++.so.6, libgcc_s.so.1}
[12:51] <Guest88915> I said stop.
[12:51] <Guest88915> Bad
[12:52] <Guest88915> *slaps you on nose*
[12:52] <Guest88915> bad scruffy
[12:52] <EriC^^> Guest85072: try rm ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/{libstdc++.so.6,libgcc_s.so.1}
[12:52] <General_Sle1n> hey
[12:52] <Guest88915> they're both the same eric
[12:52] <Guest88915> Any reason you posted it twice?
[12:53] <General_Sle1n> what I?
[12:53] <EriC^^> yeah there was a typo in the first
[12:54] <Klasser> Gonna throw a question out here ; What if you have a user with a "-" in the name, how do you add this user to the Sudoers group?
[12:54] <Klasser> Sudoers file does not like a - in the username
[12:54] <Guest88915> no such file or directory
[12:55] <hexedit> Guest88915..you mean you don't have liborcus on your system
[12:56] <EriC^^> Guest88915: type find ~/.local/share/Steam -type f -iname "lib*" | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:57] <Myrtti> hexedit: probably not by default, but it is one command away to install, with 0 cost.
[12:57] <hexedit> Myrtti..oh i see...with that apt-get stuff and dpkg-reconfigure stuff
[12:58] <Myrtti> Yeah.
[12:59] <Guest88915> http://termbin.com/h16n
[13:00] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: you don't have to put direct users in sudoers file. I'm sorry it is this way, but the sudoers GROUP (sudo) is used to easily add people without changing that file.
[13:00] <EriC^^> Guest88915: rm /home/anthony/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.18
[13:00] <hexedit> jonathan...what if the sudo group doesn't exist by default..can you just let wheel users use sudo
[13:01] <EriC^^> Guest88915: rm /home/anthony/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
[13:01] <Klasser> jonathan_zz: What if I wish to restrict a certain user to only being able to restart a certain service. Do I not need to specify this in the Sudoers file?
[13:01] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  it did nothing but repeate that back to me
[13:02] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: oh probably yes, you asked about the sudoers group though. But you could equally create a group for that person to get around it, put the group in the file, and add the user the group.
[13:03] <hexedit> jonathan...what if you uncomment allowing wheel users to use sudo if they have the password
[13:03] <EriC^^> Guest88915: what do you mean?
[13:03] <EriC^^> it should just return an empty command line after each one
[13:03] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ The terminal outputted what I typed in
[13:03] <hexedit> jonathan..so you don't have to create all kinds of extra groups
[13:03] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try type find ~/.local/share/Steam -type f -iname "lib*" | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:03] <EriC^^> again
[13:04] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: then you'll have to edit the hex of two ascii characters and still fail.
[13:04] <jonathan_zz> now shoo :p.
[13:04] <Guest88915> http://termbin.com/uk1g
[13:04] <hexedit> jonathan...wouldn't visudo easily let you allow wheel users to use sudo
[13:05] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/uk1g
[13:05] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try launching steam again
[13:05] <hexedit> jonathan...so you don't have to keep track of all kinds of groups
[13:05] <Guest88915> it's downloading an update, but it's done this before and still hasnt' launched
[13:05] <Guest88915> I'll just wait and see i guess
[13:06] <sam__> hi all
[13:06] <Guest88915> The update is  already 1/2 done
[13:06] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: and what is so special about wheel Might I ask?
[13:07] <hexedit> jonathan...wheel is used for lots of other things so it is a basic group..so why add all kinds of extra groups and then have to keep track of all that mess
[13:07] <jonathan_zz> that's not what I asked. You are avoiding the question.
[13:07] <hexedit> jonathan..do you have visudo on ubuntu
[13:07] <jonathan_zz> The question is not on me, it is on you. And that's the end of it for now.
[13:08] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ I'm recieving an error
[13:08] <EriC^^> what's the error
[13:09] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ http://pastebin.com/a3UVmr0y
[13:09] <Guest88915> the same libGL error as before
[13:10] <Redbeardt> I think my GPU has vanished from device listing since I installed bumblebee D:
[13:12] <Redbeardt> oh.. looks like that's what it's supposed to do.
[13:12] <jonathan_zz> hexedit: fyi, "wheel" has the exact same function as "sudo", it is not used for "lots of other things" and therefore, being a basic "sudo" group, cannot be used to restrict access to users based on specific use cases. But you knew that.
[13:13] <hexedit> jonathan..it doesn't really matter to me whether you have visudo or not....i am trying to work on free software not the $15 ubuntu
[13:13] <jonathan_zz> fine.
[13:13] <hexedit> jonathan...ok fine
[13:14] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ http://pastebin.com/a3UVmr0y
[13:14] <Guest88915> Please don't leave me Eric :(
[13:15] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:16] <hexedit> jonathan...and it also doesn't matter if ubuntu lets you use groupadd sudo or whatever whenever you want
[13:16] <hexedit> jonathan...and it doesn't matter if they let you user usermod -a -g stuff either
[13:16] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <EriC^^> hexedit: usermod -a -G *
[13:17] <Redbeardt> whoa I actually got dota 2 to load up using m GPU D:
[13:17] <Redbeardt> crashed 5 seconds later  though ._.
[13:17] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <Guest88915> @EriC^^  http://termbin.com/467n
[13:17] <Redbeardt> I saw the logo and everything!
[13:17] <hexedit> EriC....right
[13:17] <EriC^^> just fyi, cause -G erases the main group
[13:18] <arthur_> exit
[13:18] <EriC^^> i mean -g
[13:18] <Liddybug> sup
[13:18] <arthur_> H
[13:18] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[13:18] <hexedit> EriC..you mean ubuntu doesn't supply the man pages like "man usermod" fyi
[13:19] <EriC^^> hexedit: it does
[13:19] <hexedit> EriC..oh ok
[13:20] <jonathan_zz> Redbeardt: runs fine here it seems :p.
[13:20] <Guest88915> @EriC^^ install is done
[13:20] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try to reboot
[13:20] <Guest88915> But then I'll miss you terribly :(
[13:21] <EriC^^> Guest88915: first type apt-cache policy linux-generic
[13:21] <Guest88915> Promise me you're love me tomorrow?
[13:21] <Guest88915> apt-cache policy linux-generic
[13:21] <Guest88915> linux-generic:
[13:21] <Guest88915>   Installed: 4.2.0.35.38
[13:21] <Guest88915>   Candidate: 4.2.0.35.38
[13:21] <Guest88915>   Version table:
[13:21] <Guest88915>  *** 4.2.0.35.38 0
[13:21] <wodim> this guy is a gold mine
[13:22] <EriC^^> Guest88915: try rebooting
[13:22] <Guest88915> Alright
[13:24] <Guest25007> @EriC^^ I'm back
[13:24] <Guest25007> Did yew miss meh
[13:25] <Guest25007> D: Steam works!!!!
[13:25] <EriC^^> great
[13:25] <Guest25007> Eric, i owe you something
[13:25] <Guest25007> Whattya want
[13:25] <EriC^^> i'm good
[13:25] <EriC^^> have fun
[13:25] <Guest25007> Are you telling me to "beat it"
[13:25] <Guest25007> :(?
[13:27] <Guest25007> @EriC^^ i have one more question. Since I have Windows on another SSD, what should I expect when I plug the sata cables back in?
[13:28] <Guest25007> @Eric^^ When I boot up again, will I be given the option to choose which I boot into or does that require more work?
[13:28] <aruns> Hi there.
[13:28] <hexedit> Eric...if you think wheel is the same as sudo...try taking someone out of sudo group but leave them in wheel...and then comment out allowing wheel users to use sudo....and then just try to use sudo with that user
[13:28] <hexedit> EriC...just fyi
[13:29] <aruns> I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS running on a Dell Latitude D610.
[13:29] <aruns> My dad wants me to install Ubuntu on a spare Dell Latitude E5400 running Windows 7 Professional.
[13:30] <aruns> I am looking to dual boot this: Ubuntu ignores the file system the partition is formatted in, is what I've heard. Is that true?
[13:30] <aruns> So even if I have exFAT or FAT formatted partition, Ubuntu installer ignores it?
[13:31] <Fuchs> aruns: I wouldn't recommend installing Ubuntu on (ex)FAT. Make sure you have an unformatted empty space on the hard disk to create the 2-3 partitions for Ubuntu in file systems it likes
[13:31] <Fuchs> shrink the Windows NTFS (backup first)
[13:35] <akik> aruns: ubuntu installation in incompatible with the fat/exfat/ntfs partitions
[13:35] <aruns> akik: I realise that, but I thought that any Linux distribution in general would overwrite the existing file systems and replace it with their own?
[13:36] <baizon> aruns: no, only if you set it to do that
[13:36] <LTCD> Hey.  I have a motion detector, when it detects movement I want to turn off screen saver.  What command in Linux would do this?
[13:37] <hexedit> EriC...after you have done that little exercise with a extra user...then see if you have learned anything...and be sure to use visudo to comment out wheel users
[13:42] <hexedit> EriC..and to simple create an extra user for testing...just use useradd or adduser...i forget which one
[13:43] <hexedit> EriC...and passwd extra_user_name
[13:45] <RolleyPoley> I'm unable to get back into Windows on my other SSD.. how do I change this?
[13:46] <hexedit> EriC..but i really don't have time to discuss whether ubuntu can do this or that....i am trying to work on free software...so that everyone can use it if they want
[13:47] <RolleyPoley> Can someone help me set up something so I can boot into my other OS on another Disk?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> RolleyPoley, sudo os-prober, then sudo update-grub
[13:48] <RolleyPoley> Thanks
[13:48] <darkblue330> Hi
[13:48] <RolleyPoley> So if I reset I should be find BlueKaj?
[13:49] <RolleyPoley> fine*
[13:49] <noel> halo
[13:50] <Redbeardt> im just about stumped on this login loop problem .__.
[13:51] <aruns> Is it better to use a USB disk formatter to format a new volume as ext4 on Windows than to use a live installation disc for a Linux distro?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Rondom, those commands should find grub and add windows to it
[13:53] <Redbeardt> if you have uefi you can just shove it on a fat32 partition in a usb drive and uefi might detect it
[13:53] <Redbeardt> and then boot from that
[13:54] <BluesKaj> thoght gri=ub would be seen in th euefi boot if the OS was installed with the uefi boot methos
[13:54] <BluesKaj> scuse the typos
[13:55] <Redbeardt> should be
[13:55] <aruns> Redbeardt: No, I think it's BIOS Revision A18.
[13:56] <aruns> Redbeardt: It's a Dell Latitude E5400, about 120 GB of free space.
[13:56] <Redbeardt> oh butts
[13:56] <ManicPanic> i want to install Ubuntu 14.04 on USB drive from Windows. I got "ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso" and a 8GB USB drive. How do i install it and persist the data written to the OS. ?
[13:57] <darkblue330> You need to use a program called pen drive linux
[13:57] <darkblue330> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[13:58] <darkblue330> I believe windows has got some inbuilt ISO burning software, I doubt if it'll create the persistence you need
[13:58] <darkblue330> or want rather
[13:59] <ManicPanic> darkblue330: but i dont want the data to disappear when the USB OS reboots
[13:59] <akik> ManicPanic: you can install ubuntu to an usb stick but then you would need another usb stick to hold the installation
[13:59] <FManTropyx> hi
[13:59] <ManicPanic> akik: no idea what that means
[14:00] <akik> ManicPanic: writing the iso file on the usb stick doesn't count as installation
[14:00] <Redbeardt> Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? After installing nvidia drivers and rebooting, logging in just kicks me back out to the login screen. syslog shows that gnome-session is crashing so that might have something to do with it?
[14:00] <FManTropyx> why do I have files that do not exist?
[14:01] <akik> ManicPanic: you could put the iso file on stick 1 and then install it to stick 2
[14:01] <ManicPanic> akik: but the OS is installed on the USB drive. Why can not save files on it too ?
[14:01] <darkblue330> ManicPanic pen drive linux allows you to define how much disk space is reserved for your apps data etc
[14:02] <ManicPanic> darkblue330: okay i will read more if its really possible to persist data with installed OS on USB drive
[14:03] <ManicPanic> akik: thats just not gonna happen
[14:03] <akik> ManicPanic: when you write the iso file on the usb stick you will get the options for live session and ubuntu installation
[14:04] <ManicPanic> akik: no, i want the OS extracted/installed onto the USB drive. And use it like a normal harddrive
[14:04] <tonyt> you can put ubuntu onto a usb stick and make it persistant using unetbootin
[14:04] <akik> ManicPanic: yes you can do it but just writing the iso image to the usb stick does not count as "installation"
[14:05] <FManTropyx> is it possible to get a message about a file not existing, because a library it needs does not exist?
[14:05] <ManicPanic> akik: i know, thats why i want the right program to extract/install the OS onto the USB drive from windows
[14:06] <tonyt> ManicPanic use unetbootin
[14:06] <auronandace> ManicPanic: you don't install ubuntu from windows, you boot the media to install ubuntu onto whatever you choose (be it a harddrive or a usb stick)
[14:06] <pc-admin_> Hi i have a question i have this problem just installed ubuntu mate and installed all drivers + updates but i can only uncrypt my drive when i boot with ´nomodeset´ is this bad or is tis a problem and if so how can i fix it?
[14:07] <tonyt> auronandace not entirely true. older versions ubuntu could be installed from with in windows
[14:07] <ManicPanic> auronandace: install i said install ubuntu from windows onto the USB drive
[14:08] <tonyt> using wubi
[14:08] <auronandace> tonyt: wubi is a hack at best and no longer supported
[14:08] <ManicPanic> tonyt: i dont want it as LIVE CD
[14:08] <tonyt> agreed
[14:08] <tonyt> k
[14:09] <auronandace> ManicPanic: i know you don't want it as a livecd, but you need to use a livecd/liveusb to make a proper installation to another usb
[14:10] <ManicPanic> i want to use the USB drive when there is no harddrive. The USB drive has to have data saved on it
[14:10] <ManicPanic> auronandace: i got the iso "ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso"
[14:11] <tonyt> ManicPanic you need 2 usb sticks. put the iso onto one then boot off that, and have the other usb stick in and install to it
[14:11] <tonyt> its simple
[14:11] <auronandace> ManicPanic: not sure how much simpler i can put it, make a livecd/liveusb and boot from that, THEN you can install a proper insstall to a different usb stick
[14:12] <tonyt> and what auronandace said. basicaly what i just said
[14:12] <ManicPanic> tonyt: what ? NO, i want to use ONE USB drive
[14:12] <ManicPanic> this makes no sense at all
[14:12] <tonyt> ManicPanic not possible
[14:12] <akik> ManicPanic: i've heard that you can use the live usb with persistent data. haven't used it myself
[14:12] <tonyt> you need to usb sticks to do what you want to do
[14:13] <FManTropyx> why do I have stuff in /etc/alternatives that is linked to from /usr/bin?
[14:13] <tonyt> or a dvd/cd and a usb stick
[14:13] <tonyt> you have to have 1 instalation media wether it be a dvd or a usb stick
[14:13] <ManicPanic> that sucks
[14:13] <tonyt> then you can install it to your other usb stick
[14:13] <akik> :)
[14:13] <ManicPanic> akik: how ? thats the only way i guess
[14:14] <akik> ManicPanic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:14] <Haris> hello all
[14:14] <tonyt> akik he said he doesnt want to boot off the livecd and use that
[14:14] <Haris> can php 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9 communicate with mysql 5.0.95 ?
[14:15] <tonyt> i already mentioned he could make a livecd persistant using unetbootin
[14:15] <akik> tonyt: but he also said he only has one usb stick and wants to store data on it for persistent usage
[14:15] <ManicPanic> tonyt: i alreay have a running OS on the pc. It can install the OS to the USB drive. Thats how its supposed to work
[14:15] <tonyt> ok as i said, he can use unetbootin to do that
[14:15] <tonyt> its simple
[14:15] <ManicPanic> akik: okay, will try that option
[14:15] <akik> ManicPanic: do as tonyt suggested if he says it's the best way
[14:16] <tonyt> im not saying its the best way but its pretty simple
[14:16] <akik> i have only tested the full ubuntu installation on an usb stick and know that it works
[14:16] <tonyt> whats best is relitive to ones opinion :)
[14:17] <akik> that LiveUsbPendrivePersistent doc is huge
[14:17] <ManicPanic> okay will try unetbootin too. So frustrating!
[14:19] <akik> tonyt: does unetbootin let you create the persistent data partition at the same time?
[14:19] <hicoleri> I'm trying to use a wifi dongle on my desktop: 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter. I have the 4.2 kernel which supposedly has MT7601U drivers. I can detect the dongle from lsusb. Now how do I use the dongle to connect to wifi networks?
[14:19] <tonyt> akik yes. there is a check box to tick and place to put in how much space to use for persistance
[14:20] <tonyt> in the unetbootin app
[14:20] <akik> that's handy if you only have one usb stick
[14:20] <tonyt> it always worked for me when using ubuntu. im not sure for any other distro
[14:20] <akik> yes it says ubuntu only
[14:21] <tonyt> k
[14:22] <phaze75> hi
[14:22] <phaze75> i use ubuntu 15.10 and have issues to start my sabnzbd service via systemctl.
[14:24] <phaze75> i used the sabnzbd@.service file and copied it to /lib/systemd/system and tried to start it with systemctl start sabnzbd@user.service.
[14:24] <Five> Hola
[14:25] <phaze75> i also tried to enable it, but nothing
[14:26] <phaze75> there is no error message, syslog tells me the service is started
[14:26] <Five> Does anyone know how to host a remote mcpi server through console?
[14:26] <Redbeardt_> ffs
[14:26] <Redbeardt_> this goddamn login loop
[14:26] <Five> lolz
[14:27] <Redbeardt_> at this rate ill have to switch distro, or even retreat back to windows
[14:34] <zb_> hi
[14:36] <jamesl> When I start my live USB of ubuntu 12.04, created from an ISO image, the screen hangs at the splash screen, dispalying "ubuntu" and a progress bar that is frozen, several seconds into lading. It does this regardless whether I select tyr ubuntu live, or install ubuntu.
[14:36] <jamesl> how to fix?
[14:39] <EriC^^> jamesl: try pressing esc and see what happens
[14:40] <jamesl> EriC^^: when it's on the option select screen or when it freezes when loading? Does ESC activate a debug mode, allowing me to see the console output? That would be nice.
[14:40] <zol1> Heya, my LAN stopped receiving IP addresses from my local router running dnsmasq. I've been trying to debug/troubleshoot this for a few hours now and I'm stuck. I think it might be the firewall rules that is messing things up.
[14:41] <EriC^^> jamesl: yeah, while it's loading esc shows the console output
[14:41] <jamesl> okay.
[14:41] <EriC^^> jamesl: you could also press e over try ubuntu
[14:42] <EriC^^> and remove quiet splash in the linux /vmlinuz ....line and press ctrl+x
[14:42] <EriC^^> might give more info
[14:42] <octo8> hello, i run this into a connected aws server, ..... sudo yum install -y httpd24 php56 mysql55-server php56-mysqlnd ... but it gives  .... No package x available. .... where x is all the package names... help ?
[14:42] <EriC^^> yum install
[14:43] <EriC^^> ?
[14:43] <EriC^^> wrong channel?
[14:44] <aruns> Hi, I have installed MiniTool Partition Wizard and have an unformatted 100GB partition, do I need to format the partition or would a live Ubuntu install write the relevant file systems onto the partition?
[14:44] <aruns> I am running Windows 7 Professional on a Dell Latitude E5400.
[14:44] <jamesl> EriC^^: how to edit the kernel command line parameters?
[14:44] <FManTropyx> octo8, did you do apt-get update?
[14:44] <jamesl> to remove quiet and splash?
[14:45] <EriC^^> jamesl: as usual
[14:45] <jamesl> EriC^^: I don't know how.
[14:45] <akik> aruns: you don't need to format the partition. the installation will take care of it
[14:45] <octo8> FManTropyx: so i do [ sudo yum apt-get update] ????
[14:45] <EriC^^> press e over try ubuntu then edit
[14:45] <jamesl> okay
[14:45] <FManTropyx> no yum, that's on CentOS
[14:45] <EriC^^> ctrl+x to boot
[14:46] <FManTropyx> not sure if it will help, but "apg-get update" will update the package informations
[14:46] <FManTropyx> apt*
[14:46] <aruns> akik: Ah OK, thanks. Are there any good tutorials or documentation I can look at if I want to learn more about Linux file systems?
[14:46] <octo8> FManTropyx: update apt-get ..... apt-get update ..... both are unkown commands
[14:47] <FManTropyx> wait, what? what OS are you using?
[14:47] <EriC^^> aruns: file systems or file system hierarchy?
[14:47] <EriC^^> aruns: oh, nevermind
[14:47] <aruns> EriC^^: Both, to be honest.
[14:47] <wamoyo> My system crashed : ( and I'd love some help getting up and running again.
[14:48] <wamoyo> I'm on this chat with a different laptop, painfully adjusting to old keyboard...
[14:48] <EriC^^> aruns: in a nutshell ubuntu uses ext4, and the efi partition if you're using uefi uses fat32
[14:48] <EriC^^> !hier | aruns this has info about the file system hierarchy
[14:51] <sailendra> hello there
[14:51] <wamoyo> Hi
[14:51] <Boxx> hello
[14:51] <sailendra> i am trying to open port 53 on my ubuntu server so i tried ufw allow 53
[14:52] <sailendra> but port 53 is still closed
[14:52] <sailendra> any help
[14:52] <wamoyo> not sure. I'm here for help too, my laptop crashed : (
[14:52] <FManTropyx> not sure what you are trying to do, but you need something to listen to the port
[14:53] <sailendra> FManTropyx: i am trying to install bind server using webozu control panel
[14:54] <sailendra> problem is i cannot install bind
[14:54] <FManTropyx> sorry, can't help you with that, possibly someone else knows
[14:55] <wamoyo> Anyone out there willing to help me recover from crashing?
[14:55] <aruns> ubottu: Thank you, I am going through it now :D
[14:55] <aruns> Oh, I assumed this was a real person :P
[14:57] <sailendra> wamoyo: what happened to your laptop :)
[14:57] <FManTropyx> lol
[14:57] <FManTropyx> hi, ubottu
[14:58] <wamoyo> sailendra: I dropped it in a campfire... haa, I jest. So, I just done 'apt-get autoremove' after installing docker, and stepped away from my laptop...
[14:58] <sailendra> wamoyo: lol
[14:59] <wamoyo> sailendra: When I got back, and tried to resume, the machine was rapidly pressing 'enter' and trying to submit my password on it's own, then it crashed.
[14:59] <wamoyo> When I boot up I get stuck on this screen:
[14:59] <guest1110101> I'm unable to boot into Ubuntu.. it's saying "Welcome to emergency mode!"
[14:59] <guest1110101> I'm staring at that prompt right now
[14:59] <wamoyo> sailendra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/755415/help-stuck-on-boot-on-ubuntu-gnome
[15:00] <nomic> use life disk as rescue
[15:00] <guest1110101> before this happened it booted but only showed files on my desktop..
[15:00] <nomic> klive
[15:00] <bjornar> How do I reload apparmor profile after dropping a file in /etc/apparmor.d ?
[15:00] <nomic> you can boot from the live cd / usb , then gain access to files on a  borked system
[15:00] <nomic> possibly fix it
[15:01] <guest1110101> I don't need to gain access to files.. it's a new installation I didn't expect to fail so quickly
[15:01] <sailendra> wamoyo: did you tried to use advanced recoverymod and drop to root and revert back the changes
[15:01] <nomic> is it on what -- micro usb?  usb?
[15:01] <nomic> what did you do
[15:01] <guest1110101> a hard drive
[15:01] <nomic> does the hard  drive have a nything elsee on it
[15:01] <nomic> anything
[15:02] <nomic> was the hard drive reliable before
[15:02] <guest1110101> I did nothing but force power it off when it showed nothing but the desktop files upon login
[15:02] <wamoyo> sailendra: I dropped to root, but get stuck there as well....
[15:02] <guest1110101> it wouldn't respond.. I had no choice
[15:02] <nomic> you should not "force poer it off2
[15:02] <nomic> ok
[15:02] <nomic> re-install
[15:02] <nomic> what specification system is it .. is it slow
[15:02] <nomic> specification computer hardware
[15:02] <nomic> what linux are you installing
[15:03] <guest1110101> greeeeaaat.. I had fantastic fun installing steam, and a video driver
[15:03] <nomic> have you done this before
[15:03] <wamoyo> sailendra: 'thinkpad-ec initial ec test failed' or something like that, is the last line in the terminal.
[15:03] <guest1110101> I was doing it for 6 houts
[15:03] <guest1110101> and installation? sure
[15:03] <guest1110101> linux, and windows
[15:03] <guest1110101> linux because it likes to fail and win blows be a use of virus
[15:04] <sailendra> wamoyo: hmm one way to recover is to boot from live cd then revert the changes
[15:04] <nomic> it does not "like to fail"
[15:04] <wamoyo> sailendra: Hmmm.... how do I revert 'apt-get autoremove?'
[15:04] <guest1110101> well the cd is right next to me.. I haven't even had the chance to pit it away yet
[15:05] <guest1110101> yes nomic.. I've used Linux ubuntu off and on for the last 6 years
[15:06] <guest1110101> you have to tweak it..both it and windows suck.. so does Mac though.. oh well.. if I want it I have to make do
[15:06] <guest1110101> things break and don't play nice on all systems thiugh.. it's a nightmare when you have to get work done
[15:07] <aruns> EriC^^: Hi, sorry, another silly question...so, to confirm, if I have an unformatted partition on Windows, I can load the Ubuntu installer and choose it to use the unformatted partition?
[15:07] <Pazooza> Just wondering, why is there little black squares with numbers 1-9 and 0, on top of my icons in the menu bar?
[15:07] <Pazooza> Something new?
[15:09] <sailendra> why do you want to do auto remove it will just remove the un necessary package which system think you can remove, try to remove the docker file and repair file system
[15:09] <hggdh> Pazooza: not new. You can use Super/Shift/[1-9] to directly start them
[15:10] <Pazooza> Never saw that before today.
[15:10] <Pazooza> I have many more than 10 icons.
[15:10] <hggdh> and the first nine can be used this way
[15:10] <wamoyo> sailendra: okay, I can remove docker.
[15:11] <tripelb> enchi: are you in Australia?
[15:11] <enchi> Yes
[15:11] <wamoyo> sailendra: How do I 'repair the file system?'
[15:11] <sailendra> using fsck
[15:11] <Pazooza> If it's not new why am I seeing it for the first time today, hggdh.
[15:12] <EriC^^> aruns: yeah, from the Something else option you can choose it and select the mountpoint it'll use and filesystem
[15:12] <hggdh> Pazooza: I do not know. I have seen them around since (I am guessing) 12.04. Anyway, a long time
[15:12] <sailendra> enchi: just a question how is easy is it to find open source or linux related job in australia
[15:12] <enchi> sailendra: I have no idea, sorry :(
[15:12] <hggdh> Pazooza: if you press Super (and keep it pressed) you will see all the shortcuts
[15:12] <sailendra> enchi: no problem
[15:12] <Pazooza> What is super, windows key?
[15:13] <hggdh> yes
[15:13] <guest1110101> yes
[15:13] <sailendra> wamoyo: using fsck tool to repair the file system
[15:14] <wamoyo> sailendra: I can run that from advanced boot options, (recovery mode) but it seems to stall.
[15:15] <sailendra> you need to unmount the file system if you need to check file system
[15:16] <sailendra> wamoyo: you do not want to run fsck tool while file system is mounted it can cause severe damage ( as per documentation). please unmount your file system
[15:17] <sailendra> wamoyo: i will suggest you to use live usb to maintain and repair
[15:18] <wamoyo> I'm making a bootable usb now.
[15:18] <willington>  /join #vim
[15:18] <snowcatman> problem http://pastebin.com/kHRFPrK3  system http://pastebin.com/BSnvf08c ubuntu willy 15 any help would be appreciated. thank you.
[15:24] <nareshnk> hi i am trying to install cakephp3 on ubuntu . but issue coming  " Cannot create cache directory /home/naresh/.composer/cache/repo/https---packagist.org/, or directory is not writable. Proceeding without cache"
[15:27] <homa> hi my friends
[15:29] <wamoyo> sailendra: Okay! So, it says, "the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present.
[15:30] <wamoyo> sailendra: Does that mean..... something?
[15:31] <sailendra> wamoyo: it just says you have not enabled swap
[15:31] <sailendra> wamoyo: doesnot matter much if you dont care about performance much
[15:31] <wamoyo> Well, when it says press s to skip
[15:32] <wamoyo> it doesn't skip
[15:33] <wamoyo> sailendra: Well, it won't let me continue : ( Oh, sweet, bootable USB is ready.
[15:34] <drose379> Hey guys, I am running Ubuntu MATE, and I installed the cinnamon DE, now when I try to boot into mate it gets stuck and tons and tons of windows keep opening up
[15:34] <drose379> Not sure whats wrong, but I think I need to remove the MATE DE, is there a way I can do that from cinnamon
[15:34] <sailendra> wamoyo: its because you have choosen to encrypt your home directory
[15:35] <wamoyo> sailendra: right, that makes sense.
[15:37] <wamoyo> sailendra: booting from bootable usb, hmmm... never done this before....
[15:37] <sailendra> wamoyo: good luck :)
[15:38] <wamoyo> sailendra: Hey, don't bail on my now! : )
[15:38] <sailendra> wamoyo: lol
[15:43] <wamoyo> sailendra: Alright, I picked 'try ubuntu' but what the hell do I do now?
[15:43] <sailendra> wait
[15:43] <xilus> Try ubuntu
[15:44] <sailendra> wamoyo: wait it will load ubuntu from there you can acces your physcially installed ubuntu and remove docker file from there
[15:44] <sailendra> wamoyo: then reboot your ubuntu and get back your system (if everything goes alright)
[15:45] <wamoyo> sailendra: I'm in a terminal, but it seems I only have access to the bootable USB
[15:45] <sailendra> are you using server edition wamoyo
[15:45] <wamoyo> No
[15:45] <wamoyo> Ubuntu Gnome
[15:46] <wamoyo> 14.04
[15:46] <sailendra> wamoyo: then wait it will load desktion in any minute
[15:46] <wamoyo> sailendra: I am in the desktop, I just don't know what to do : )
[15:47] <sailendra> ok go to file manager and locate the your drive where you installed ubuntu physically
[15:50] <wamoyo> sailendra: Yeah, according to Disks it's at /dev/sda but I'm not seeing that in the terminal or file manager
[15:50] <sailendra> use file manger gui to access not from terminal
[15:53] <mekhami_> anyone know why i can't disable suspending? i change the settings but it still suspends when i leave it for a few minutes
[15:53] <mekhami_> i changed it in the power settings
[15:55] <wamoyo> sailendra: okay, got the file system...
[15:56] <wamoyo> sailendra: So, do I just poke around and delete docker files, that seems reckless. I normally enjoy being reckless, but somehow I feel I should restrain myself in this instance.
[15:56] <sailendra> wamoyo: if you go to /var/lib you will find docker  i guess
[15:56] <sailendra> wamoyo: choice is yours
[15:57] <wamoyo> sailendra: nope, it's not there.
[15:57] <wamoyo> How do I run apt-get for that file system?
[15:57] <sailendra> you cant
[15:58] <sailendra> wamoyo: search for docker file it should be some where there
[16:03] <wamoyo> sailendra: Strange, it's not letting me do things. I used chroot to get in to the disk on the terminal, so I could run apt-get, but it fails most commands.
[16:04] <sailendra> wamoyo: you are running with live usb so whenever you do apt-get command it will install on you usb disk not to your hard disk it wont change your hard disk, what i am trying to do here is wipe off your docker folder then boot into normal ubunu then use apt-get remove to remove docker and its configuration file
[16:05] <rakmaq> Hi. I face a problem with a deb package. If I install the deb package foo with dpkg it works fine, but the next time I try to install an application using "apt-get install" it complains that I have to run "apt-get install -f". If I do this it will get the latest version of foo from debian's repositories. I tried pinning the version of foo by using "apt-mark hold foo", but that didn't seem to fix th
[16:05] <rakmaq> e problem. Does anyone have an idea how I might fix this?
[16:05] <wamoyo> sailendra: I followed some instructions online, I had to mount the disk first, and then I could easily cd into it. I'll try your approach : )
[16:06] <sailendra> if you use gui file manger on your left hand side you can see your disk and access to it which you will mount automatically when you click on them
[16:08] <voltbot> ciao
[16:09] <voltbot> help ....whats opened files.run?
[16:12] <adamsmd> Where do I report the following bug?  In the kernel for 16.04, code to support "Lenovo y700" was backported from the upstream kernel version 4.6, but similar code for "Lenovo y700 touch" was not.  I'd like to get the "Lenovo y700 touch" code backported into the kernel Ubuntu uses.
[16:18] <wamoyo> sailendra: There's no docker file in the var directory
[16:18] <sailendra> wamoyo: which docker did you install can you look at their documentation, mine was in /var/lib directory
[16:22] <NotMargaretThatc> hi, will unity 8 be included with the 16.04?
[16:25] <elhe_> hello is there a chance i can dual boot win8.1 with ubuntu next to it, the windows bootloader is a pain in the ass
[16:25] <Klasser> So heres a question.
[16:25] <Klasser> I've added a new user, which is my user for running wordpress
[16:26] <Klasser> it is a part of the www-data group, nothing else
[16:26] <Klasser> But for some reason, I am refused access to grant this user anything in the Sudoers file
[16:26] <Klasser> It is greyed out and will not apply.
[16:27] <Klasser> ' <Username> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL ' will not apply on the user.
[16:27] <Klasser> Even when running a command as sudoers, i get the message "user is not apart of the sudoers"
[16:28] <Klasser> Any takers on why this is?
[16:29] <ratrace> Klasser: well, is the user part of the sudoers group?
[16:29] <jonathan_zz> what do you mean greyed out?
[16:30] <Klasser> (I am using VIM, so when I edit the sudoers file it shows me as grey instead of red)
[16:30] <Klasser> ratrace : I ran "groups" and the only one listen is www-data
[16:30] <Klasser> listed#
[16:30] <jonathan_zz> so you think your syntax is wrong?
[16:30] <rakmaq> I would not recommend running wordpress with a user that can easily acquire root access
[16:31] <ratrace> what rakmaq  said
[16:31] <rakmaq> If you use "visudo" to edit your sudoers file it will alert you if you have any syntax errors
[16:31] <Klasser> I am running this purely as a experiement locally, but I will be restricting the access to only being able to restart one service.
[16:32] <Klasser> I am running Visudo (using VIM)
[16:32] <blabla> hi guys, having some problems with termite. could anyone help?
[16:33] <ratrace> Klasser: btw that syntax seems wrong. You need   user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/to/bin/or/ALL
[16:33] <link0802> Hello. I am using ubuntu 15.10 on my laptop. Recently my usb mouse stop response (but it has power becouse mouse light is on). I try boot to another karnel version but it didn't help. Somebody have clue how I can solve this? (I try different usb ports, usb hub and mouse on other pc work perfect)
[16:33] <rakmaq> Klasser, you might want to try to run "sudo -l" to see what sudo permissions the user has.
[16:35] <Klasser> ( I have changed the line in sudoers to : ' Commandman ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service ts3 * ')
[16:37] <jonathan_zz> I don't know I don't want to get into this syntax right now but just typing a user in visudo using vi, does not grey it out with me.
[16:37] <jonathan_zz> unless I add a dash to the name
[16:37] <link0802> any help please? I run out of ideas :(
[16:37] <jonathan_zz> vi is not checking your actual users or anything, it is just syntax.
[16:38] <Klasser> Hm..
[16:38] <jonathan_zz> also changing the syntax as ratrace indicated gave me save error
[16:38] <mguy> how much longer is 12.04 lts supported
[16:38] <ratrace> link0802: anything in dmesg when it stops working?
[16:38] <Klasser> Alright jonathan, thanks for clarifying that.
[16:39] <ratrace> mguy: until this time next year
[16:40] <ratrace> jonathan_zz: what do you mean save error? that's a valid syntax. user host=(user:group) NOPASSWD: /path/or/ALL
[16:40] <mguy> And when does 16.04 officialy release
[16:40] <mguy> 12.04 version of php is ancient I wish my apps could magically fix themselves
[16:40] <link0802> retrace > pastebin.com/YgGinyCz
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> mguy  april 21
[16:41] <ratrace> mguy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:42] <wamoyo> Would love some help recovering my system (Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 laptop)
[16:42] <wamoyo> I've got a live CD booted, but I running apt update just yields a stream of errors.
[16:42] <wamoyo> Any help would rock!!! : )
[16:42] <jonathan_zz> ratrace: oh yeah it works now.
[16:43] <link0802> but this errors only after boot. If I clear dmesg and then disconnect and then connect mouse - dmesg still clear.
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> wamoyo  why run an update of a live cd? when you shutdown it will all be gone
[16:44] <ratrace> link0802: well frankly, I don't know what causes it, but I've had bad luck with some cheap chinese mice. I fixed it by buying quality genius or logitech mice.
[16:44] <wamoyo> MonkeyDust: I'm using chroot to run the update inside the proper install, not the live cd, unless I think I'm doing something I'm really not.
[16:44] <jonathan_zz> ratrace: it still asks me for my password though, even though sudo -l gives me the new permission
[16:44] <ratrace> link0802: and those cheap chinese mice would act just that, suddenly just stop working
[16:45] <link0802> ratrace understand :(. But the most weired thing - on other pc it works fine
[16:45] <ratrace> link0802: those other PCs are also Ubuntus? or an other Linux distro?
[16:45] <link0802> ubuntu 15.10 too
[16:46] <ratrace> link0802: that means your USB hub is fried.
[16:46] <darkblue330> hi
[16:46] <Klasser> I'm having the same issue right now Jonathan. It has the new permission, but still wants sudo password
 one more weired thing :) just one second ago I take mouse from desktop, connect to same usb port and it work.......this situation just have no sense
[16:49] <kalexyco> bonsoir
[16:49] <ratrace> link0802: it could be that both the mouse and your USB ports or hub have flaws that, only when combined, experience those errors.
[16:49] <link0802> maybe I can completely remove all usb ports (in software level) and reinstall it drivers or etc?
[16:50] <ratrace> link0802: I doubt that would help.
[16:51] <link0802> but it appear even when I connect direct to laptop port. But I understand this through...Maybe my usb ports and this mouse can't work fine together :)
[16:52] <ratrace> link0802: from what I gather from what you said, this mouse X stops working on computer x, but mouse Y from computer Y works fine on computer x, and mouse X works fine on computer y. Correct?
[16:52] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: it appears you cannot have passwd and nopasswd at the same time for the same user and expect different results based on the command you run
[16:52] <link0802> yes, correct
[16:52] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: but I don't know why that would apply to you
[16:52] <ratrace> link0802: so the only logical solution is to change the mouse.
[16:53] <link0802> you are definitely right :) big thank you for help! just for curiosity I will boot in safe mode and try this mouse :) will write in few minutes ) once more thnx :)
[16:56] <gustav___> Hi, why's there no lowlatency kernel for Trusty?
[16:57] <Klasser> Ugh.. I hate looking for the reason behind this. This user should only have that one permission.. so.. yeah.
[16:58] <jonathan_zz> still doesn't work for me
[17:00] <gustav___> Found an old version.
[17:03] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: it works the moment all my entires have NOPASSWD
[17:03] <skinux> How do we turn off Ubuntu's Spyware functionalities?
[17:03] <skinux> LIke tieing internet search into Dash
[17:03] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: I cannot specify a single NOPASSWD because apparently it keeps credentials for everything indiscriminately
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> skinux  there is no spyware, what option are you talking about
[17:04] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: that would mean I would get NOPASSWD for my single command, but after I would be able to run anything since I would have been authenticated
[17:04] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: so it really sucks.
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> skinux  system settings > privacy
[17:04] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: but it should work if your user only has that one permission when you run sudo -l ?
[17:07] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: yes, the moment I remove sudo group priviledges, it works
[17:08] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: so I don't know why it shoudln't work for you
[17:08] <jonathan_zz> Klasser: my own user is now capable of executing "sudo su" but nothing else.
[17:09] <buharin> hi
[17:09] <buharin> some c++ developers here?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> buharin  ##c++
[17:12] <darkblue330> buharin: ask you question, see if I could answer it for you
[17:12] <buharin> I am intresting how many euros earn russian developers?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> buharin  also not for thisz channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:13] <buharin> ok
[17:13] <darkblue330> buharin: who knows, I'm  sure it depends on many factors
[17:13] <darkblue330> try #programming
[17:14] <darkblue330> try ##programming *
[17:14] <buharin> ok
[17:17] <jsw_> I need to build an upstream kernel.  It's been about 15 years since I've done this, and initrd / initramfs is a new thing since then.  Where can I read up on how to produce the initrd.img file so things like udev won't break when I try to boot my new kernel?
[17:17] <wamoyo> Hi, anyone willing to help me recover my system.
[17:18] <wamoyo> Booting up stalls here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/755415/help-stuck-on-boot-on-ubuntu-gnome
[17:18] <wamoyo> I've got a live cd running, but I don't really know what to do from here.
[17:20] <Guest24980> 我来聊
[17:20] <tonyt> good luck guest. english is spoken here
[17:21] <akik> !cn
[17:21] <maimster> Good Day all.
[17:21] <sam__> hi
[17:22] <mintux> bekks: sorry . mount is: http://codepad.org/OuBkCDYF
[17:22] <pxn> someone here who has an  idea how to change screen color on ubuntu mate ?
[17:22] <akik> jsw_: i'm not 100% sure but look into dracut
[17:23] <akik> !info dracut
[17:24] <jsw_> akik: google has some interesting hits for that; thanks
[17:24] <Bubble_Gum> Why is steam struggling to download software at 100 kilobytes per second when I have literally 30 times that in speed test.net
[17:24] <ratrace> Bubble_Gum: because that particular server you're downloading from dictates the speed?
[17:24] <Bubble_Gum> Does it really?
[17:24] <ratrace> Bubble_Gum: aparently.
[17:24] <Bubble_Gum> I've downloaded from the same on windows.. it's not this slow
[17:25] <Bubble_Gum> Why do you think I'm here
[17:25] <ratrace> Bubble_Gum: each connection is separate and may go to different server. Steam is not behind ONE single machine.
[17:25] <FManTropyx> because it is Ubuntu's fault?
[17:25] <ratrace> also offtopic.
[17:28] <guest1110101> cute..
[17:29] <guest1110101> I'd appreciate you not dosing me.. I have my routers console open..
[17:30] <ratrace> so you had to mention it and basically invite every troll to dos you. sigh....
[17:30] <guest1110101> yep
[17:30] <guest1110101> I need money
[17:30] <ratrace> do you need help with ubuntu?
[17:30] <guest1110101> I do.. but I can't do much about it with my router down
[17:31] <guest1110101> I can log the i.p. though and trace through to source.. I doubt it'll come to much depending on who it is..
[17:31] <ratrace> shoot the question when you're ready. ;)
[17:31] <guest1110101> I already asked as bubble gum
[17:31] <guest1110101> scroll up
[17:32] <ratrace> guest1110101: so the same answer applies. if your test.net shows 30x greater speed, then something's up with that particular connection to Steam.
[17:32] <ratrace> also check Steam settings, maybe you imposed download limits.
[17:32] <guest1110101> I can't figure out why steams servers run 10 times more slowly than on windows.. I figure it's a configuration somewhre
[17:32] <wamoyo> Recovery status: incomplete. Time on Task: much too much. Alert Level: Redish Orange. Hope: all but lost..... help? Is anyone out there?
[17:32] <guest1110101> I don't see It though
[17:33] <ratrace> guest1110101: there's download rate limiting section. How is that configured?
[17:33] <guest1110101> sure go ahead wamoyo..
[17:34] <wamoyo> guest1110101: installed docker, did apt-get autoremove, locked screen, returned, couldn't enter password, it seemed like the machine was hitting enter rapidly on it's own. system crashed....
[17:34] <guest1110101> there isn't a limit specified in my do res
[17:34] <guest1110101> download restrictions
[17:34] <guest1110101> it's blank
[17:35] <wamoyo> Went into recovery mode, can't seem to mount filesystem, booted live cd (usb) and tried running apt update through chroot, but failed.
[17:36] <suvrat_> hello
[17:36] <suvrat_> i need help
[17:40] <sjh> 有人吗
[17:40] <kitsos> does ubuntu support the ARM CPUs used in Raspberry Pi?
[17:40] <kitsos> or any ARM for that matter?
[17:40] <Bubble_Gum> I think so
[17:40] <reisio> kitsos: the newer raspberry pis
[17:40] <reisio> kitsos: >=2
[17:40] <Bubble_Gum> the 3rd
[17:41] <reisio> for <2, you need 3rd party builds of Ubuntu
[17:41] <Bubble_Gum> I'd go for 3rd depending on whether or not you want it on ethernet
[17:41] <Bubble_Gum> It's slightly more powerful too
[17:41] <kitsos> I see.
[17:41] <reisio> sjh: /msg alis list *ubunt*cn
[17:41] <reisio> kitsos: you got an rpi?
[17:42] <Bubble_Gum> Would you like me to link you to install files?
[17:42] <reisio> it should actually already be harder to find the <2 rpi models than the newer ones, supply & demand, etc.
[17:42] <Bubble_Gum> hmm.. I think that might be against the rules
[17:42] <kitsos> reisio Not yet. I'm just wondering.
[17:42] <reisio> Bubble_Gum: I think thinking about whether things might be against the rules might be against the rules :p
[17:42] <Bubble_Gum> ._. . .
[17:42] <kitsos> Another qustion: how can you install ubuntu with a minimal terminal-like interface? Do you need the entire Xorg and related packages? Are there any builds for this?
[17:43] <reisio> kitsos: well, if you want to be part of the rpi community, obviously you'd want an rpi; but if you just want what the rpi provides, there are better alternatives
[17:43] <reisio> cheaper/more efficient/more open
[17:43] <Bubble_Gum> I'm in someone elses house reisio.. I respect their rules
[17:43] <Bubble_Gum> house/server
[17:43] <reisio> Bubble_Gum: nope, you respect the possibility of the idea of there possibly being a rule :p
[17:43] <reisio> that's different
[17:43] <reisio> kitsos: Debian keeps a nice list: https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TargetedHardware
[17:44] <reisio> kitsos: and you might also keep in mind that at this point, x86 single-board computers are /really/ close in price, much closer than they were a year ago
[17:44] <Bubble_Gum> I only believe in absolutes unless I'm deliberately trying to break the rules.
[17:44] <reisio> there are even some amd64 boards listed at that link I gave, the price is _very_ close
[17:44] <Bubble_Gum> You have to know them thoroughly to exploit them
[17:44] <reisio> and going with x86 over arm avoids lots of /potential/ issues you might encounter
[17:44] <Bubble_Gum> I have nothing to gain exploiting them though so :\
[17:45] <reisio> all the hardware guys tell me ARM is a lovely arch, and I believe them, but I'm not sure it's lovely enough to deal with things not being made for it :p
[17:45] <reisio> Bubble_Gum: I guess I just meant there's not point conjecturing
[17:45] <reisio> the rules are listed someplace
[17:45] <Bubble_Gum> that's true.. I wouldn't put anything other than what the manufactures recommend
[17:45] <Bubble_Gum> It's possible though to put ubuntu onto the raspberry pi 3
[17:45] <reisio> and you /can be sure/ if you actually approached breaking one that anybody cared about, some clown op would harass you for it :p
[17:46] <Bubble_Gum> oh.. now you're making fun of me :(
[17:46] <Bubble_Gum> wait.. you said OP
[17:46] <reisio> no, not at all :)
[17:46] <Bubble_Gum> nvm
[17:46] <reisio> I said clown op
[17:46] <reisio> which is distinct from op :)
[17:46] <reisio> (sometimes :p)
[17:46] <mintux>  it's permession of directory drwxr-xr-x and im in root user but i cant create directory inside it said  Permission denied
[17:47] <reisio> mintux: what's the command you ran?
[17:47] <mintux> mkdir test
[17:47] <reisio> mintux: inside the dir in question?
[17:47] <mintux> yes
[17:47] <reisio> is it a network share?
[17:47] <reisio> or a FUSE mount?
[17:47] <reisio> (hint: it is)
[17:48] <reisio> such things by default operate only via the user you've configured for them, excluding even root (though obviously root can always gain access, if it wants)
[17:48] <kitsos> reisio yeah debian has a surprisingly long list supported ARM chips. And while I like the idea of small x86 computers AFAIK they're all make by intel. Which is partially good because I guess they're more stable than RPi, and partially bad because you're supporting a monopoly..
[17:48] <mintux> reisio: how can i ensure it?
[17:49] <reisio> mintux: 'mount' will tell you what's mounted
[17:49] <reisio> mintux: if your dir is inside a mounted path for something like FUSE or NFS, that's probably the reason
[17:49] <mintux> reisio: it's mount output: http://codepad.org/OuBkCDYF
[17:49] <reisio> kitsos: mmmm, well, the arch is all controlled by intel
[17:49] <ratrace> Bubble_Gum: so did your connection pick up speed?
[17:50] <reisio> kitsos: which isn't the same, but is close to the same problem
[17:50] <reisio> kitsos: Intel actually owns an ARM manufacturer now
[17:50] <reisio> I'm all for supporting the superior underdog
[17:50] <reisio> but only if it's actually superior :p
[17:50] <mintux> reisio: and it's my path /var/www/clients/client3/web18
[17:50] <reisio> my applications for SBCs tend to be media centers... where things like Netflix working out of the box is much preferred
[17:50] <zyixc_> Hello, what happened to the meizu pro 5 ubuntu edition? Should have been released halfway through march?
[17:51] <reisio> I'm willing to pay an extra measly $40 for an x86 box so I can give someone a box that does Netflix simply
[17:51] <Bubble_Gum> @ratrace that's a good question.. i'm not paying attention
[17:51] <reisio> if I were making a battery powered widget, I might well use a stripped down ARM
[17:51] <kitsos> reisio wow, I didn't know that
[17:51] <reisio> kitsos: yeah... it's hard to fight intel, they are enormous
[17:51] <reisio> kitsos: I mean, even without buying an existing ARM manufacturer, they're so rich, and so enormous, at any moment they could've made their own fabrication facilities from scratch, and still beat out almost all the competition
[17:52] <ratrace> reisio: Netflix on Linux requires DRM stuffs present only in the Google Chrome browser which is not availale on Ubuntu "out of the box", you have to manually install it, preferably by configuring the official google repo.
[17:52] <reisio> probably the only people who can really compete with them easily ATM is Samsung :p
[17:52] <reisio> ratrace: google chrome isn't in the ubuntu repos?
[17:52] <nauticalnexus> hi, how come I can mount my Mac's partition(HFS+ I believe) but I can't read my users folder on Ubuntu GNOME 14.04
[17:52] <ratrace> reisio: nope. Chromium, the open source upstream of Chrome, is though.
[17:53] <reisio> nauticalnexus: ...from Mac OS, you mean?
[17:53] <nauticalnexus> I can read it if I'm root
[17:53] <nauticalnexus> no
[17:53] <reisio> ratrace: that's an odd choice
[17:53] <Exagone313> firefox has a drm player, no?
[17:53] <ratrace> reisio: it isn't. Chrome is not open source.
[17:53] <reisio> google chrome is in most distro's repos, anyway, I dare say
[17:53] <ratrace> reisio: chromium or chrome?
[17:53] <reisio> ratrace: both
[17:53] <nauticalnexus> I'm dual booting OS X 10.11 and Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, I want to read my Users folder on the OS X partition because it has all my music on it
[17:53] <Exagone313> large part of chrome is chromium
[17:54] <ratrace> except the proprietary drm part
[17:55] <reisio> eh
[17:55] <reisio> whether or not the software you're using to access your DRM'd media is open or closed is sorta academic
[17:55] <reisio> you are given the access the provider wants and nothing more
[17:55] <reisio> the software's kinda secondary
[17:55] <reisio> poor internet :/
[17:55] <ratrace> Anyway, Netflix requires the closed source code that's in Chrome but not in Chromium.
[17:55] <reisio> luckily Netflix isn't real great anyway :p
[17:56] <reisio> you can use chrome's drm stuff with chromium, of course
[17:56] <Exagone313> on http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/watch-netflix-natively-linux-easy-way/ it is said it runs on chromium now
[17:56] <reisio> it's just less straightforward
[17:56] <Exagone313> not sure
[17:56] <reisio> Exagone313: yes it has for some time I'm sure
[17:56] <link0802> so I manage how back to life my mouse)1. reinstall & purge compiz. It's first thing and this can bring back you mouse to work (but I don't know why it happen). 2. Try remove or install irqbalance. (if mouse keep freeze when you pc have big CPU %). 3. And last possible solution paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error.
[17:56] <reisio> I wouldn't call it easier than using chrome
[17:56] <reisio> but preferable
[17:56] <reisio> as chromium > chrome
[17:56] <kyle> sup
[17:56] <reisio> suppah
[17:56] <ratrace> Exagone313: nope, read again.
[17:56] <Guest89324> hows it going
[17:57] <reisio> no really, you can use chrome's binary drm nonsense with chromium
[17:57] <reisio> on Gentoo it's as simple as toggling a USE flag (sometimes :p)
[17:58] <ratrace> reisio: are you referring to pepperflash?
[17:58] <reisio> Guest89324: super good, but send this for me: /nick kyleguy
[17:58] <reisio> ratrace: nope
 but I think it's happen (and I need do all this pain) because my mouse have some weired chines staff inside)
[17:59] <reisio> boy that's hard to parse
[17:59] <nauticalnexus> reisio: I just checked, I can read my users folder, go to my OS X username, but I can't access my Music folder at all, which is the folder I want to access.
[18:00] <ratrace> reisio: oh you mean widevine
[18:00] <nauticalnexus> says I don't have the permissions necessary to view the contents
[18:01] <reisio> ratrace: I mean what we were talking about, yup
[18:01] <ratrace> reisio: yes. the widevine thing and widevine use flag on Gentoo's chromium package.
[18:01] <mintux> reisio: any problem with my mount ?
[18:01] <reisio> nauticalnexus: so 'mount' says what about your Mac OS partition/s?
[18:01] <ratrace> reisio: so I guess chromium on ubuntu could be recompiled with that to allow Netflix.
[18:01] <reisio> ratrace: yeah on Gentoo that's the USE flag, at least sometimes
[18:02] <reisio> ratrace: oh I imagine it's already enabled for Ubuntu
[18:02] <nauticalnexus> reisio "ro,nosuid,nodev uhelper=udisks2"
[18:03] <ratrace> reisio: frankly, I don't know, but I tried Netflix few weeks ago with Chromium, didn't work. Works only with Chrome.
[18:03] <reisio> ratrace: it's not fun playing with netflix regardless :p
[18:04] <nauticalnexus> reisio: I can read them as root, but I'd rather not
[18:04] <reisio> nauticalnexus: no there should be more output than that
[18:04] <nauticalnexus> reisio: you want the whole mount output? Anywhere I can paste that?
[18:05] <reisio> nauticalnexus: dpaste.com
[18:05] <reisio> nauticalnexus: but just the lines dealing with the partition/s in question would suffice
[18:05] <Guest89324> <how did you get chrome?
[18:06] <nauticalnexus> reisio: http://dpaste.com/12TG4GT
[18:06] <reisio> it's weird there's such a chrome blockade
[18:07] <nauticalnexus> reisio: like I said, I can read everything on the root of it, but I can't read my Music folder at all
[18:07] <reisio> there's still a wiki item on installing Skype, after all
[18:07] <reisio> nauticalnexus: as user 'absynthesyne'?
[18:07] <reisio> nauticalnexus: what does trying to read Music say? (ls, file, etc.)
[18:07] <riqj> hello everyone, I'm installing 15.10. and the progress of install is not shown at the bottom of the install window, as it used to be. is it something that has changed with 15.10?
[18:07] <ratrace> Guest28258: https://dpaste.de/wWdi
[18:08] <nauticalnexus> reisio: yes that's my username on Ubuntu. It's different on OS X but the partition is mounted as read only so I should be able to read everything on it shouldn't I?
[18:08] <ratrace> Guest28258: oh and prefix apt-get with sudo, of course
[18:08] <reisio> nauticalnexus: what does trying to read Music say? (ls, file, etc.)
[18:08] <reisio> riqj: dunno, but might I suggest instead at this point to install 16.04 beta 2
[18:08] <nauticalnexus> reisio: how do I get to the partition in terminal? I've no idea
[18:09] <reisio> nauticalnexus: I want the output of a command similar to this: ls /media/absynthesyne/Seagate/path/to/Music/
[18:09] <reisio> nauticalnexus: with the error
[18:09] <riqj> reisio, in all respect, no, you may not :) it is 'beta' and there are 12 more days to go..and even then, often it is recommended to wait until first upgrade for changes, fixes etc..
[18:10] <reisio> waiting is silly
[18:10] <nauticalnexus> reisio: http://dpaste.com/3AD5N6P
[18:11] <reisio> nauticalnexus: how about 'file' instead of 'ls'
[18:11] <reisio> nauticalnexus: might be some silly HFS+ specific symlink on Mac OS, and your actual music is in another dir
[18:11] <nauticalnexus> reisio: if I run my file manager as root I can read it
[18:12] <riqj> hurrying might be sillier
[18:12] <reisio> nauticalnexus: okay, then it's just a permission issue after all
[18:12] <newdimension> Quick question: I dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu. I started my PC and selected Ubuntu at the boot loader. However, it turned out that I forgot that it wasn't off. It was hibernating from windows. So now I have Ubuntu running but Windows 10 hibernating. How do I "turn off" ubuntu to go back to Windows 10 ? If I simply turn off the PC wouldn't that damage the windows image ?
[18:12] <reisio> riqj: being less silly _might_ be sillier :p
[18:12] <nauticalnexus> reisio: yeah I don't know how to fix it. Probably something I have to do in OS X?
[18:12] <reisio> nauticalnexus: no
[18:12] <KomputerKid> #spatry
[18:12] <KomputerKid> whoops
[18:12] <KomputerKid> fale
[18:12] <reisio> nauticalnexus: you could add the specific permissions options you'd want/need into /etc/fstab
[18:12] <reisio> nauticalnexus: and that'd fix it for future mounts
[18:13] <reisio> nauticalnexus: might need to seek out a mac os + /etc/fstab writeup for GNU/Linux to get the permissions you'd want
[18:13] <riqj> anyway..does anyone have any information on my question?
[18:14] <reisio> riqj: I doubt that has changed, but I don't recall clearly
[18:14] <reisio> probably your progress is b0rked
[18:14] <reisio> the minimalcd image installer is probably more reliable, fwiw; it's just uglier
[18:15] <riqj> no, the install has just been completed
[18:15] <reisio> ah, then what's it matter? :)
[18:15] <reisio> if you perceive a bug, file a bug report
[18:15] <riqj> I asked before it was complete
[18:15] <reisio> if it's not actually a bug, no big deal
[18:15] <ratrace> newdimension: it wouldn't as long as you do not mount or touch windows' partitions
[18:16] <riqj> ok, thanks..ciao
[18:16] <nauticalnexus> reisio: where would I find that? I don't exactly know what to google
[18:16] <newdimension> ratrace: So I can just restart my PC and select windows ?
[18:17] <ratrace> newdimension: yes.
[18:17] <reisio> nauticalnexus: probably something like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mac%20os%22%20%22%2Fetc%2Ffstab%22%20%22permissions%22%20%22hfsplus%22
[18:17] <reisio> sorry, gtg :D g'luck
[18:17] <newdimension> ratrace: thank you
[18:26] <escobar> I wonder if you can use zfs ootb on ubuntu on windows 10 ;p
[18:26] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[18:26] <escobar> hi O
[18:26] <OnkelTem> I wonder where can I get Cairo Composite Manager for 14.04?
[18:26] <escobar> might check launchpad for a ppa
[18:27] <OnkelTem> I can't find it
[18:27] <escobar> might just upgrade, if a newer version has it
[18:27] <Ben64> https://launchpad.net/~shnatsel/+archive/ubuntu/cairo-compmgr
[18:27] <escobar> seeya, Fleuv!
[18:27] <Ben64> 5 secs googling. keep in mind ppas are unsupported
[18:28] <ratrace> escobar: as long as installing zfsutils-linux is sufficiently ootb :)
[18:28] <escobar> ratrace: heh
[18:28] <OnkelTem> Ben64: is it for 14.04?
[18:28] <ratrace> escobar: and uhm... I'm assuming you mean running ubuntu under a VM :)
[18:28] <ratrace> not this latest ubuntu under windows natively bash thingy.
[18:28] <Ben64> ooh, google said it was, but apparently not
[18:28] <OnkelTem> that's the thing
[18:29] <escobar> ratrace: oh, no; Microsoft and Canonical have partnered to have Ubuntu userland on Windows 10
[18:29] <OnkelTem> I always feel sick when something good just go away in history
[18:29] <Ben64> thats up to the devs
[18:29] <ratrace> escobar: Yes, I know.
[18:30] <escobar> ah, you're assuming for your response, gotcha
[18:30] <escobar> OnkelTem: tends to suggest it has superior alternatives
[18:30] <escobar> though obviously not _always_
[18:31] <eelstrebor> anyone know of a way to import databases from keepassx 0.9 to keepass2? i haven't been successful so far - maybe i'll have to manually recreate the database for keepass2?
[18:31]  * escobar would check keepass2 site
[18:32] <ratrace> eelstrebor: import, don't open directly?
[18:33] <eelstrebor> ratrace, yeah - import gives an incompatibility error message
[18:34] <eelstrebor> it opens in keepassx but won't import into keepass2
[18:35] <eelstrebor> got a lotta username/password combinations to keep track of
[18:36] <jason__> I used a tool to delete some temporary files and I think I deleted my search index for the launcher. Is there a way to rebuild it?
[18:36] <ratrace> eelstrebor: well, I don't know then, sorry. When upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04, I just used the import function of keepassx2 and it worked.
[18:37] <jiffe> is it possible to be able to pull up the main graphical display fron a running ubuntu desktop on multiple remote computers simultaneously?
[18:37] <eelstrebor> no help at keepassx.org
[18:40] <Jordan_U> jiffe: Yes. And I think most VNC servers also have a "view only" option that you would probably want to use along with that.
[18:40] <nauticalnexus> this is probably a dumb question but how do I upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04
[18:41] <Ben64> nauticalnexus: honestly, you should wait for 16.04 to come out, then you can upgrade directly to 16.04
[18:42] <ratrace> nauticalnexus: I don't think you can.
[18:43] <nauticalnexus> Ben64: I know but this is killing me. GNOME 3.10 doesn't have a lot of support for themes(such as arc, which I love and want to use)
[18:43] <\ni> nauticalnexus, I wold wait for 16.04. You can check this link as well: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[19:02] <toker> hi
[19:02] <toker> im new to linux so wondered if anyone can help
[19:03] <Guest49833> hello
[19:05] <toker> anyone there
[19:06] <\9> !ask |toker
[19:06] <[yas]> !ask
[19:06] <BlankSpace> !PATIENCE
[19:06] <[yas]> cool! :-)
[19:08] <BlankSpace> !patience |[yas]
[19:11] <jiffe> so I've got tightvnc server running and I can connect to it, it looks like it is creating its own display as opposed to displaying the real display as if I was looking at a connected monitor
[19:11] <jonathan_zz> toker: what can I help you with, toker?
[19:11] <jiffe> is there a way to do the latter?
[19:13] <Jordan_U> !vnc | jiffe
[19:13] <jiffe> :0 is probably what I am looking to view
[19:14] <Jordan_U> jiffe: Vino is installed by default and is very easy to configure.
[19:14] <toker> well i need to make it more secure
[19:16] <jiffe> with vino if someone wants to connect to this thing, every time I'm going to have to pull it up and enable remote desktop?
[19:17] <noobOne> hi..my ubuntu freezes after some time.. what is the solution?
[19:17] <jiffe> it sounds like what I want except for this manual nonsense
[19:18] <ioria> jiffe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#tightvncserver      tight creates a new session  and vino can be set to confirm or not each session
[19:18] <jiffe> ioria: I want to be able to allow anyone to connect to the existing session at any time
[19:19] <ioria> jiffe, so type vino in Dash and go Security
[19:19] <noobOne> hi..my ubuntu freezes after some time.. what is the solution?
[19:19] <jiffe> cool, I don't have a monitor on this machine, I'm going to have to pull this one to play with it
[19:20] <hilx> .oO(heater)
[19:21] <Nairwolf> hi, do you know how I can type chinese character on Ubuntu ?
[19:22] <hilx> Nairwolf, https://askubuntu.com/questions/59356/how-do-i-get-chinese-input-to-work
[19:22] <Nairwolf> thanks ;)
[19:22] <jonathan_zz> toker: if you reply to someone, perhaps type their name first, this way a person will be notified you have talked to them.
[19:22] <jonathan_zz> toker: I don't think "making it more secure" is going to happen unless you know a lot about a system.
[19:23] <jonathan_zz> toker: in terms of data security, and encryption, there is not much choice in Linux.
[19:23] <BlankSpace> what can i do with ubuntu.I have got it
[19:24] <jonathan_zz> toker: both options - encrypt the entire system using LUKS - and encrypting your home directory with eCryptFS, were already presented to you when you installed.
[19:24] <BlankSpace> i mean how do i start learning ubuntu
[19:25] <Bashing-om> BlankSpace: What ever your imgigination will allow .. It is wide open .
[19:25] <jonathan_zz> BlankSpace: read a general book on Linux commands. Everything else that is in the GUI is going to be self-evident.
[19:26] <Bashing-om> !manual | BlankSpace
[19:26] <jonathan_zz> BlankSpace: you want to learn more about linux right?
[19:26] <BlankSpace> I know basic commands
[19:26] <BlankSpace> What now?
[19:26] <BlankSpace> what do i learn now
[19:26] <jonathan_zz> what do you want to know?
[19:27] <BlankSpace> I just want to learn something interesting in computing
[19:27] <jonathan_zz> like what?
[19:27] <jonathan_zz> building a rocket navigation system, or building a web page?
[19:27] <BlankSpace> like doing ddos attacks.
[19:27] <\ni> BlankSpace, find something you want to automate. and learn bash scripting
[19:27] <jonathan_zz> learning how to use GIMP ...... aha.
[19:27] <EriC^^> :O
[19:28] <_RadioHead> what is the best to use in linux for backup?
[19:28] <hilx> .oO( muha )
[19:28] <nauticalnexus> how can one person do a ddos attack?
[19:28] <nauticalnexus> that'd be a dos attack
[19:28] <jonathan_zz> that is no general linux knowledge I will say
[19:28] <consolejazz> nauticalnexus: botnet?
[19:28] <_RadioHead> backup example data folder
[19:28] <jonathan_zz> and it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:28] <BlankSpace> yes automation.automate of like what?
[19:29] <BlankSpace> Yes I know.I want to learn to intrude into someone;s system.
[19:29] <BlankSpace> so what actually do i need to learn to do that?
[19:29] <jonathan_zz> you know.... that's really a kind of facepalm statement you konw.
[19:29] <nauticalnexus> BlankSpace: you won't find any info here. This is Ubuntu support IRC. Not "how to hack someone IRC"
[19:29] <BlankSpace> from where do i begin?
[19:29] <hilx> we don't support crime :)
[19:30] <aka> begin with HelloWorld
[19:30] <BlankSpace> helloworld?
[19:30] <\ni> BlankSpace,  well. I use simple bash scripts to mass crop images/ put a water mark
[19:30] <BlankSpace> in whichc language?
[19:30] <jonathan_zz> that's like going to an architect's office and saying "how can I create a skyscraper?"
[19:30] <ioria> _RadioHead, i use tar + ssh to transfer a folder to another pc
[19:30] <BlankSpace> how do you do that?
[19:31] <BlankSpace> I guess i'l learn bash script.
[19:31] <BlankSpace> can you share your script?
[19:31] <aka> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Hello,_World!"_program
[19:31] <BlankSpace> I know helloworld
[19:31] <aka> so why you ask?
[19:31] <jonathan_zz> If you want to hack.... first just start reading about exploits. Learn about stack overflow exploits, code injection exploits, and those kinds of things.
[19:32] <_RadioHead> ioria, and something that sync two folders automaticly on file/folder change?
[19:33] <jonathan_zz> I would suggest you spent at least 20 hours just READING before you go and do ANYTHING.
[19:33] <BlankSpace> do i have to be good at programming..........for doing stackoverflow exploits.
[19:33] <consolejazz> BlankSpace: try #r_netsec
[19:33] <BlankSpace> console whats that for?
[19:33] <aka> jonathan_zz: i guess he should learn network basics like tcp protocolls before exploits ;)
[19:33] <Jordan_U> BlankSpace: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is a great guide to learning to use bash *properly* (there are a lot of guides that encourage bad practices).
[19:33] <consolejazz> BlankSpace: also, irc://irc.snoonet.org/#PenTesting
[19:33] <jonathan_zz> for creating them, yes. For using them, maybe not, but I'm not going to say much else.
[19:33] <robb_nl> another bashguide: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[19:33] <consolejazz> BlankSpace: i.e., you're in the wrong channel. These are other places to learn more about what you're asking about
[19:34] <jonathan_zz> aka: that will be a too long roundabout before he finds something interesting.
[19:34] <jonathan_zz> aka: you can better start with what catches your attention, and then learn how to do it.
[19:34] <BlankSpace> join #r_netsec
[19:34] <ioria> _RadioHead, well, i did my own script ... maybe give a look and adjust to your own use (but bear in mind that is home-made)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15721774/
[19:36] <_RadioHead> ioria, thank you
[19:36] <robb_nl> jonathan_zz, ... I disagree.... knowing networking/subnetting etc is a must before doing anything.... I can recommend http://www.ipprimer.com/
[19:36] <ioria> _RadioHead, have fun
[19:36] <BlankSpace> consolejazz y you gave me ircchannel link where no one is present.
[19:37] <jonathan_zz> robb_nl: I never said he could start doing anything. If you start with exploits, you will quickly bumb into protocols, so your learning takes you there. If you start the other way around, you will never get anywhere until you have finished university.
[19:37] <consolejazz> BlankSpace: which channel?
[19:37] <consolejazz> I provided you with two.
[19:37] <robb_nl> if you _start_ with exploits, you will never grow over 'script-kiddy' stage...
[19:38] <aka> jonathan_zz: tell someone how to hack without basics maybe can produce a little or big disaster ;)
[19:38] <EriC^^> if he really likes computers he'll get over it
[19:38] <jonathan_zz> that's what he is right now, not even that. And I was not talking about ready made exploits, but the general knowledge about them. LIke what they call 101 in the states.
[19:39] <jonathan_zz> aka: reading up on general exploits is not being taught how to hack.
[19:39] <BlankSpace> what did you say jonathan what sd i begin reading first?
[19:39] <BlankSpace> i mean from where?
[19:39] <jonathan_zz> general concepts about hacking
[19:39] <jonathan_zz> anywhere
[19:39] <EriC^^> ssh level1@io.smashthestack.org is fun
[19:39] <jonathan_zz> if you want to become a car mechanic, you first need to know what an engine is right? So read up on engines first.
[19:40] <aka> jonathan_zz: ...what an engine is? thats my way. ;)
[19:41] <robb_nl> EriC^^, try Telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl :)
[19:41] <EriC^^> the starwars?
[19:41] <jonathan_zz> BlankSpace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_(computer_security) is an easy start, although it is a bad article and becomes very practical very soon.
[19:42] <EriC^^> robb_nl: it's pretty awesome
[19:42] <jonathan_zz> aka: no if you take the analogy, you wanted thim to learn about designing engines first ;-).
[19:42] <robb_nl> yeah
[19:42] <Jordan_U> jonathan_zz: BlankSpace: aka: This channel is not for helping people become crackers. Please take such discussion elsewhere.
[19:43] <vervet> robb_nl: I remember that, good stuff :D
[19:43] <BlankSpace> JOrdan they were just being helpful
[19:43] <nauticalnexus> robb_nl: That's still up? Awesome
[19:43]  * EriC^^ stops watching now
[19:43] <robb_nl> yes it's still up....
[19:43] <\9> !cracking
[19:43] <EriC^^> i plan to watch all the episodes some day and then watch the latest one
[19:43] <BlankSpace> I always wished to know and didnt know whom to ask.
[19:44] <jonathan_zz> don't even respond to the jealous people man ;-).
[19:44] <robb_nl> would blinkelights be considered pirated video?
[19:44] <EriC^^> robb_nl: lo
[19:44] <EriC^^> lol
[19:44] <EriC^^> i dont think so
[19:44] <vervet> i wish this still worked http://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/star-wars-easter-egg-hidden-in.html
[19:44] <jonathan_zz> just start reading wikipedia, not much else you can do. Good luck.
[19:45] <vervet> you'd think with ipv4 addresses running out... lol
[19:45] <robb_nl> here is another oldie: www.digitpress.com/videos/pongmovie.swf
[19:45] <nauticalnexus> I never watched the whole blinkenlights thing
[19:47] <EriC^^> robb_nl: lol it's hilarious
[19:48] <aka> Jordan_V: sorry bout that, it was more philosophical. I didnt really want to help him to hack
[19:48] <jiffe> alright so I'm connect via vnc through vino and I can see the desktop, nothing seems to change when I do things with the mouse/keyboard, but if I kill the connection and reopen I can see that those changes actually were made, the screen just isn't updating
[19:48] <jiffe> I tried 2 different viewers
[19:50] <Jordan_U> jiffe: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:54] <jiffe> Jordan_U: 14.04
[19:57] <alkisg> jiffe: in my experience, vino is slow and not very well maintained; I prefer x11vnc
[19:58] <jiffe> alkisg: will that let me share the main display :0 ?
[19:58] <alkisg> Sure
[19:59] <ioria> jiffe, vino is working good for me with tightvncviewer
[19:59] <James123_> Any good problem solvers for nagios?
[19:59] <jiffe> well its not for me
[20:00] <jiffe> seemed like a good solution
[20:00] <jiffe> I see similar problems but they're for 12.04- and the solutions don't seem to apply
[20:01]  * alkisg is using x11vnc over ssh + xvnc4viewer for forward connections, and xvnc4viewer -listen + x11vnc for reverse connections
[20:01] <James123_> I have several versions of contacts.cfg and i think its causing issues?
[20:01] <James123_> because i get "Error: Could not read object configuration data!"
[20:01] <ioria> jiffe, fw, encryption ... stuff like that ?
[20:02] <jiffe> ioria: I turned encryption off and no fw, it connects, I can see the screen, it just doesn't update
[20:02] <jiffe> I see the mouse move, I don't know if that's client or server side
[20:03] <ioria> jiffe, both
[20:03] <FManTropyx> I finally did dist-upgrade to apply the new kernel packages and I got no message about rebooting, but should I do that anyway?
[20:03] <ioria> jiffe, it's mirroring
[20:04] <Bashing-om> FManTropyx: Yes, rebbot to load the new kernel image .
[20:05] <FManTropyx> ok, tnx
[20:06] <ioria> jiffe, but you can try x11vnc like alkisg said, iy experienced issues
[20:06] <ioria> *if
[20:06] <jiffe> guess thats what I'll have to do
[20:07]  * alkisg got vino working both with and without encryption, and it was 10 times slower than x11vnc, and never used vino again...
[20:07] <alkisg> Back in 10.04 it was ok though
[20:13] <nauticalnexus> If I upgrade to 15.10(or 16.04 when it comes out), will stuff made specifically for 14.04 work? I have a few music related things that only work on 14.04 at the moment
[20:13] <nomic> yes it should work
[20:13] <nomic> absolutely, so
[20:13] <nauticalnexus> Thank you
[20:14] <nomic> nothing really changes -- it's not like windows
[20:14] <nomic> things are built upon
[20:14] <geenie> Werewolf is cool though
[20:14] <alkisg> Except for proprietary drivers built for specific kernel versions :)
[20:14] <Myrtti> I wouldn't trust it to work
[20:15] <nauticalnexus> nomic, I thought you had to have a specific version of Ubuntu to use the stuff. That's what I've been told at least. Like that a package that could install on 14.04 can't be installed on 15.10 or so on
[20:15] <nomic> well there will be extreme points of incompatibility, if developers are trying to use the latest or "beta" drivers etc
[20:15] <Myrtti> for example Python upgrading to a higher version might cause issues.
[20:15] <alkisg> And .deb dependencies etc :)
[20:15] <Jordan_U> nauticalnexus: What "music related things" are you talking about specifically?
[20:15] <nomic> was going to ask that
[20:16] <nomic> there is python 2 vs python 3, although both are present on any recent ubuntu
[20:16] <nauticalnexus> Jordan_U, anything on kxstudio's repository. I have Cadence from there. KxStudio is based on 14.04 iirc
[20:17] <geenie> 16.02 beta is out ryt? Anyone tried?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> geenie: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04.
[20:18] <nauticalnexus> I also have Ardour from there as well
[20:19] <Mitchell92> Hello... I'm having an issue with docky. I add things to it, but then when I reboot they disappear.
[20:20] <Mitchell92> or example I dragged in XChat and something else, and I also tried opening it and right clicking and addking to dock. I reboot, it's gone
[20:22] <Jordan_U> nauticalnexus: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories claims to support "14.04 and above" but you'd need to ask them to be sure.
[20:22] <andoni> hola
[20:22] <nauticalnexus> Jordan_U: thank you
[20:23] <dcz> hello guys , i accidently run dd command to /dev/sdb drive, i want to recover files from there, how can i do that ?
[20:24] <n-iCe> you can't :D
[20:25] <ioria> !info testdisk | dcz
[20:26] <Bleg> Hi guys, can anyone tell me how to mount/access a .vmdk file mounted in VMware on a Ubuntu vm? I've mounted the .vmdk as a second hard disk in VSphere but I don't know how to actually browse its contents
[20:27] <AHemlocksLie> Is there a way I can get a list of packages installed post-installation? Or maybe all those installed by a given user? I've seen a couple ways, but they include all the system packages, I think, since I know I didn't install most.
[20:27] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to plan a migration and basically want a list of packages I've added myself so I can reinstall them on the new system.
[20:28] <jiffe> so the gpu load on one of my amd 7970's shoots up to 66% when I connect vnc
[20:28] <hggdh> AHemlocksLie: perhaps dpkg--get-selection would help?
[20:28] <alkisg> jiffe: gpu load? do you mean cpu load?
[20:29] <hggdh> AHemlocksLie: uh.  dpkg --get-selection
[20:29] <ioria> !info aptoncd | AHemlocksLie
[20:29] <jiffe> alkisg: no gpu load
[20:29] <alkisg> jiffe: and how are you monitoring that? with what command?
[20:29] <nauticalnexus> I'm curious too
[20:29] <jiffe> alkisg: aticonfig --odgc --adapter=all
[20:30] <alkisg> Thanks, I didn't know ati had such a tool
[20:30] <nauticalnexus> neither did I
[20:30] <alkisg> What bandwidth are we talking about? localhost? gigabit? fast ethernet?
[20:30] <AHemlocksLie> hggdh: That still seems to include a lot of the extras and dependencies. I can go through it, I just figure there's probably an easy way to generate the list I don't know about
[20:31] <jiffe> yeah gigabit lan
[20:32] <hggdh> AHemlocksLie: get-selections (with no pattern) will write out all packages installed
[20:32] <hggdh> AHemlocksLie: that means what you (or an user) asked for install plus all dependencies
[20:32] <mlvmhn> can someone plz help me with my OpenVPN?
[20:33] <AHemlocksLie> hggdh: Right, I just hoped there was a way to get the list without all the extras
[20:33] <alkisg> jiffe: it doesn't sound surprising that reading the screen contents to decide the .diff to send in a gigabit connection would occupy the gpu a lot...
[20:33] <hggdh> AHemlocksLie: then, perhaps, aptoncd as suggested earlier
[20:33] <mlvmhn> OpenVPN experts?
[20:34] <jiffe> the connection is quite slow actually, it takes about 5 seconds for anything I do to actually happen
[20:34] <alkisg> jiffe: which viewer are you using?
[20:35] <AHemlocksLie> hggdh: yeah, now that I'm looking at it, it looks more helpful than I expected. Thanks for the suggestion, ioria
[20:35] <jiffe> alkisg: both tightvnc and realvnc viewers are about the same
[20:35]  * alkisg is using xvnc4viewer
[20:36] <alkisg> I can almost watch youtube video in gigabit with those
[20:38] <AHemlocksLie> Found a rather complex but effective command to get the list
[20:38] <bst1> Im having a little problem chating in a irc channel i had already registered it returns the message "cannot send message to channel"
[20:38] <AHemlocksLie> ( zcat $( ls -tr /var/log/apt/history.log*.gz ) ; cat /var/log/apt/history.log ) | egrep '^(Start-Date:|Commandline:)' | grep -v aptdaemon | egrep '^Commandline:'
[20:38] <AHemlocksLie> Lists all instances of apt-get install/remove/etc.
[20:39] <bst1> Im having a little problem chating in a irc channel i had already registered it returns the message "cannot send message to channel"
[20:39] <bst1> any help
[20:39] <alkisg> AHemlocksLie: you can also dpkg -l in both the systems, and subtract them to see the ones you installed
[20:40] <jiffe> I guess another question would be, this machine has an onboard graphics chip + 2 gpus, and when I hook up a monitor I have to use one of the gpus, is there a way to set the default display on the integrated graphics chip?
[20:41] <jiffe> I suppose that's not really an OS thing
[20:42] <AHemlocksLie> alkisg: That's a good idea, definitely would have worked without much trouble. I thought about that, but I'm still waiting on the installation, so I figured I'd get ahead of the curve
[20:48] <JazzBot> if I wanted to use the list command using two wildcards how do I do that?
[20:48] <JazzBot> need to use *sample* and *.csv
[20:50] <alkisg> JazzBot: ls *sample* *.csv
[20:50] <JazzBot> that yields the results for either or
[20:50] <alkisg> Either
[20:50] <JazzBot> I need results for both yeilding true
[20:51] <alkisg> I don't understand what you mean by that
[20:51] <alkisg> It will list all the files that match any of those patterns
[20:51] <JazzBot> That would list all TEXT files OR all files that contains SAMPLE
[20:51] <alkisg> JazzBot: did you run it to see?
[20:52] <JazzBot> I need list all files that CONTAINS SAMPLE AND is TEXT
[20:52] <JazzBot> yes I tried that, your suggestion is what I thought at first too
[20:52] <alkisg> Ah, *sample*.csv?
[20:52] <JazzBot> correct
[20:52] <alkisg> That's what you need?
[20:52] <alkisg> ok
[20:52] <alkisg> `ls *sample*.csv` then
[20:53] <alkisg> Note that if no such files exist, it will complain. You might want to use find instead of ls.
[20:53] <JazzBot> that didn't work either
[20:53] <JazzBot> and I can't use find command unfortunately
[20:53] <alkisg> find . -iname '*sample*.csv'
[20:54] <alkisg> I'm not sure I understand both what you're asking and your constrains...
[20:54] <JazzBot> How would you use the ls command to display all of the files/directories in your current directory that contain the word ‘sample’ somewhere in the name and end with ‘.csv’?
[20:54] <alkisg> ls *sample*.csv
[20:54] <\9> ls *sample*.csv
[20:55] <JazzBot> yea I'm trying that and it's not matching
[20:55] <alkisg> Is the case of your files correct? E.g. .csv instead of .CSV?
[20:56] <JazzBot> Interesting I thought file names were not case sensitive
[20:56] <thakyZ> Hey does anyone know for sure if the Xpad driver works with a Xbox One controller on Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:56] <alkisg> In Linux, they are
[20:56] <\9> the linux shell is case sensitive
[20:56] <\9> well bash shell rather
[20:56] <\9> if you want a case-insenstive match you'll need to use find
[20:56] <alkisg> That's what find -iname above was addressing, i = insensitive
[20:56] <JazzBot> This is for my unix class
[20:56] <akshay_> hm
[21:01] <JazzBot> OK cool thank you very much!
[21:01] <mitchell92> Hey all... I got a nice laptop I installed ubuntu on. It has a touch pad similar to those macbooks. I would really love it that instead of left clicking on the left and right clicking on the left, to right click I just click regularly but with two fingers. Any way to set that up?
[21:02] <AHemlocksLie> I'm in the process of formatting my external hard drive, but there's no window for it, it seems. Is there some way I can check the progress?
[21:02] <sheguo> huhu
[21:04] <AHemlocksLie> Ah, I managed to find it in gnome-disks
[21:05] <secureme> Hello, I want to secure my Ubuntu laptop before I connect to public WiFi. What must I do to make sure other users on the same network can't compromise me?
[21:05] <secureme> I have GUFW set to Incoming:Deny and Desktop Sharing is disabled, anything else?
[21:07] <sheguo> uhuuh
[21:08] <Ycarene> I'm trying to run a wine program using an updated version of gnutls in my /usr/local/lib folder, 64 bit is in x86_64-linux-gnu and 32 in i386-linux-gnu, when I use LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/$LIB/gnutls.so.28 (or LD_PRELOAD=/usr/loal/lib/$PLATFORM/gnutls.so.28) it's not expanding the variable at all, leaving it empty so it tries to load /usr/local/lib//gnutls.so.28.
[21:10] <Lusosec> whats new?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Ycarene: Where are you settting $LIB and $PLATFORM? Is this all being done in a bash script?
[21:11] <atom_> Hi there
[21:12] <Ycarene> Jordan_U - ld.so is supposed to expand these variables on it's own.
[21:13] <octavian_> why I don't have green colors in the terminal (user@laptop:~$)?
[21:13] <wodim> Ycarene: try with \$LIB
[21:13] <k1l> octavian_: enable it in .bashrc
[21:13] <l0ll1p0p> octavian_: you have to uncomment #forcecolours from .bashrc file
[21:14] <octavian_> force_color_prompt=yes?
[21:14] <l0ll1p0p> octavian_: yes
[21:14] <l0ll1p0p> octavian_: and then restart your terminal emulator
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Ycarene: But if you are making that assignment via bash, as you've posted it, then it's bash that will first try to interpret the $LIB, and if it hasn't been set in bash's environment then it will be replaced with nothing.
[21:14] <octavian_> yeah, that worked. ty
[21:19] <jiffe> ok, so I switched my primary graphics device from my amd gpus to the onboard graphics, the ubuntu desktop doesn't want to come up anymore now, just sits in the ubuntu splash screen
[21:21] <Lusosec> ubuntu runs like shit on my dell
[21:21] <jiffe> looking at dmesg I'm seeing a bunch of vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device at the end
[21:22] <Elektro> ciao a tutti
[21:23] <stacy-> if it is a salted password encription in phpmyadmin..how do i change it?
[21:23] <Elektro> !list
[21:23] <Lusosec> when are ubuntu phones and tablets coming out, its about time
[21:24] <k1l> Lusosec: this channel is for real ubuntu technical support. for your rantings please use your own blog.
[21:24] <varaindemian> Does ubuntu have anything other site for searching packages than http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[21:26] <minitrue> varaindemian: I use apt-cache search
[21:26] <k1l> varaindemian: or launchpad.net
[21:26] <k1l> varaindemian: what do you need?
[21:27] <varaindemian> something related to 8086 assembler
[21:27] <dn5> is there a way to replace unity "Ubuntu Dekstop" with an image or icon?
[21:29] <varaindemian> k1l, an emulator/compiler for 8086 microprocessor
[21:30] <varaindemian> k1l, but it looks like there is nothing..
[21:30] <dbarros> hi. I started to work on a educational LAN with 20 computers. All Win7. There is an issue that I always see - the kids turn off the computer directly from the power/reset button. Then you get that message "Start Windows Normally", in black. We are changing this, implementing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on all machines - but I'm thinking on something here... how to handle that kind of behaviour in Ubuntu?
[21:31] <seeit> hi guys when i push up on a putty sessions in ubuntu 14.04 i get ^[[A what config is incorrect that is causing this?
[21:32] <akik> seeit: if you run bash and try it again, does it work?
[21:32] <jiffe> so in /etc/X11 I see a number of xorg.conf.* files, how can I tell what is being used?  there's no file just called xorg.conf
[21:32] <seeit> yeah, ty
[21:33] <akik> seeit: sh = dash which works that way for some reason
[21:33] <k1l> varaindemian: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8555094/8086-88-emulator-for-ubuntu
[21:34] <NegativeFlare> dbarros: not sure how off the top of my head, but I know there is ways of telling acpi to shut down when the power button is pressed
[21:38] <gferg> hello
[21:39] <will> s
[21:39] <will> sup niggas
[21:39] <will> whats diggin my main bitches
[21:40] <nicomachus> ಠ_ಠ
[21:40] <nicomachus> !language | will
[21:41] <UbuntuDu1e> I downloaded and install wily, started using firefox then I found out that it's using system proxy settings ... is this normal and default setting or could something else I've installed has altered the browser's settings?
[21:41] <dbarros> NegativeFlare, I see... what I really want to achieve is that the power off button has no effect in turning off the machine --- only through the Unity interface.
[21:42] <NegativeFlare> dbarros: yeahh, see that's a problem. If you hold the button down, no matter what the machine. Its going to shut down.
[21:43] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone here had a problem installing Ubuntu on an M.2 drive alongside Windows 10? Just done an install of 15.10, and it doesn't seem to have installed to the disk (no option to boot it from efibootmgr). If Ubuntu can't be installed to an M.2 drive, then I'll get a slower SSD to put it on.
[21:43] <dbarros> NegativeFlare, no matter what you set on the bios or Uefi bios?
[21:45] <Smashcat> Haven't used Linux on desktop for around 10 years (use it on servers every day) and seems like the Linux/Windows booting issues are still as bad as ever :)
[21:45] <sine0> I am having problems with dns requests from my ubuntu installation, when i restart the browser it works immediatly
[21:48] <NegativeFlare> dbarros: as far as I know, yes. Its a hardware thing that's literally a standard. The only thing I can tell you to do, is tell the little kids to not hold the power button down.
[21:53] <marcony> hello, i have a problem.in my country some of betting sites like bet365.com is blocking.maybe somebody can help me? how i can to enter in? maybe there is something like pirat browsers?
[21:56] <sine0> marcony: it could be many reasons. maybe there are laws in your country for betting which they have to adhere to. maybe you are using an ip from a block they dont like
[21:56] <nicomachus> !vpn | marcony
[21:56] <nicomachus> but also, gambling is bad mmmkay?
[21:57] <freaj> nicomachus: nicogarrison
[21:57] <freaj> is that you!?
[21:57] <nicomachus> no...?
[21:57] <marcony> sine0, yes it hapens few days ago
[21:57] <marcony>  there are laws in your country for betting
[21:57] <jiffe> alright getting closer, so my xorg.conf is setup with default information so I can boot up and display from the onboard graphics
[21:58] <jiffe> but now amdconfig complains that there's no devices in xorg.conf
[21:58] <marcony> sine0, so it`s not posible to enter with something like pirate browser?
[21:59] <sine0> whats a pirate browser. you need a vpn like nicomachus suggested
[21:59] <freaj> nicomachus: omg sorry, it's mackey.. not garrison :(
[21:59] <sine0> virtual private network. you have to pay a small amount but i guess if your gambling that might not be an issue
[21:59] <freaj> nicomachus: (the one who says mmmkay in southpark..)
[22:00] <nicomachus> yep, that's the reference...
[22:00] <k1l> marcony: use a proxy, vpn or tor. but if its against the law in your country you should take that into account.
[22:00] <nicomachus> marcony: your question is not related to Ubuntu. perhaps try #security.
[22:00] <aman2071> So I was wondering if someone could help me with a secondary monitor problem. When I plug in a second monitor to my laptop, my main display just flickers on and off and nothing is displayed on the 2nd monitor. I have a dedicated and a discrete graphics card in my system. I do have the nvidia display driver installed. Anybody got any tips on how to troubleshoot?
[22:01] <sine0> k1l: i disagree. as long as your not hurting anyone, f8@k the government. its not like they are law abiding themselves
[22:02] <bipul> aman2071, Just check at display setting option.
[22:03] <k1l> sine0: that is your personal opinion.
[22:03] <aman2071> bipul: I can't see anything on either screen when I plug in the second monitor though.
[22:03] <sine0> sure
[22:07] <bipul> aman2071, I see, try detecting your device.
[22:26] <mrrobot_> In this world nothing is solved
[22:35] <nauticalnexus> Hi, I'm about to upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04 and I have a few questions. Is there a low latency kernel for 15.10? I use it on 14.04 and I really need it as I produce music and it's a huge help. Also is there going to be one on 16.04 when it releases?
[22:36] <nicomachus> nauticalnexus: why upgrade to 15.10? why not just wait for 16.04?
[22:37] <bazhang> !15.10
[22:37] <nauticalnexus> nicomachus: because I'm impatient.
[22:37] <nicomachus> it'll be released in like 2 weeks...
[22:37] <nicomachus> You've waited almost 2 years already.
[22:37] <ratrace> Can you even upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04? Aren't you missing unsupported 14.10 and 15.04 steps?
[22:38] <nauticalnexus> nicomachus: actually I recently got Ubuntu. Like a month ago.
[22:38] <nicomachus> ratrace: it's possible, but not as easy as normal.
[22:38] <nauticalnexus> ratrace: as far as I know yes you can.
[22:38] <k1l> nauticalnexus: then reinstall a 15.10
[22:38] <badp> if you HAVE to upgrade, upgrade straight to 16.04. I and my coworkers have been experiencing hard system freezes involving Chrome. Upgrading to 16.04 fixed it for me
[22:39] <nicomachus> yes, you can upgrade to 16.04 beta now.
[22:39] <badp> (the freezes involed 15.10)
[22:39] <nauticalnexus> Is it stable?
[22:39] <k1l> nauticalnexus: you need to upgrade to 14.10, then 15.04 then 15.10. and since 14.10 and 15.04 are dead you need to change the repos manually first like explained in !eolupgrade
[22:39] <nicomachus> runs smoothly here, but it's not officially stable.
[22:39] <ratrace> runs smoothly here too.
[22:39] <ratrace> after a few initial bumps that is :)
[22:39] <nauticalnexus> I'll install that then. How do I do that, in that case
[22:39] <k1l> if you need a working system dont use alpha/betas
[22:39] <badp> the upgrade TO 16.04 was not smooth for me, so I had to pull some wires
[22:39] <nicomachus> there have been a few repos (Chrome....) that have been troublesome. and some PPAs that don't have support yet.
[22:39] <nauticalnexus> Also is there a low latency kernel for it because that's kinda necessary
[22:40] <badp> but I upgraded pretty early in order to stop the pain, so eh
[22:40] <badp> ymmv
[22:40] <badp> I'd rather mess about with aptitude than have chrome freeze my computer to death every couple of hours
[22:40] <nicomachus> !releases | nauticalnexus check for low-latency kernels on the official release page:
[22:54] <aruns> Hi, quick question. Does Ubuntu 15.04 need to be installed on a pre-formatted partition?
[22:54] <nicomachus> 15.04 shouldn't be installed at all anymore.
[22:54] <NegativeFlare> aruns: not really
[22:54] <aruns> Why not?
[22:54] <k1l> aruns: dont install 15.04. that is already dead
[22:54] <nicomachus> !15.04
[22:54] <k1l> aruns: install 14.04 or 15.10
[22:54] <aruns> Dammit I just installed it xD
[22:54] <aruns> I mean, burned it to disc.
[22:55] <nicomachus> time to burn a supported release instead.
[22:55] <aruns> So Ubuntu 14.04 is the way to go?
[22:55] <nicomachus> or 15.10, yes
[22:55] <aruns> Oh wait, I mean Ubuntu 15.10.
[22:55] <aruns> Sorry, it's because I already have Ubuntu 14.04 :P
[22:56] <aruns> But 15.10 can automatically detect an unformatted partition?
[22:56] <k1l> aruns: the ubuntu live-desktop has a partitioning tool. and the installer can make partiitons too
[22:56] <aruns> Ah, OK.
[22:57] <aruns> k1l: So on Windows, you don't particularly need to shrink an existing volume for the new partition?
[22:57] <aruns> As I am intending on using this as a dual boot.
[22:57] <aruns> Windows 7 & Ubuntu 15.10.
[22:57] <k1l> i suggest to use the windows build in shrinking tool to do the shrinking of windows. but the ubunt partitioning tool can do that too
[22:58] <aruns> Ah, OK.
[22:59] <EriC^^> aruns: boot into windows a couple times after shrinking so it registers the changes
[22:59] <aruns> EriC^^: Ah OK, so it will then detect the unformatted partition?
[23:00] <EriC^^> yeah it will add the changes to it's stuff
[23:00] <EriC^^> dont know the specifics to be honest, it's in the wiki though
[23:01] <nicomachus> just do like me: install ubuntu alongside Windows and then never boot Windows again...
[23:05] <aruns> EriC^^: Still a lot I need to know, wish I'd done more IT-wise when I was at school :P
[23:10] <sudosuminus> root@ubuntu-studio:~# apt-add-repository ppa:sunab/kdenlive-release
[23:10] <sudosuminus> Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:10] <sudosuminus>   File "/usr/bin/apt-add-repository", line 95, in <module>
[23:10] <sudosuminus>     sp = SoftwareProperties(options=options)
[23:10] <sudosuminus>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 109, in __init__
[23:10] <sudosuminus>     self.reload_sourceslist()
[23:11] <calamari> I'd like my system to boot up and run a console program in the foreground, without having to log in. Is this possible with systemd? note that this is console, X is removed
[23:11] <EriC^^> sudosuminus: does sudo apt-get update work?
[23:12] <alkisg> calamari: if you put it to /etc/rc.local, I don't think you'd care about the init system then...
[23:12] <calamari> alkisg: I put it in rc.local, but nothing happened. I guess that doesn't show up on the terminal
[23:13] <alkisg> calamari: did you put it before "exit 0"?
[23:13] <calamari> it only showed me the login prompt
[23:13] <calamari> yes
[23:13] <EriC^^> it would run in the background with rc.local
[23:13] <alkisg> OK, then how about `openvt program` from rc.local...
[23:13] <calamari> I want it to run in the foreground. if possible, I would like to have the other vt's still work
[23:14] <calamari> alkisg: I'll try it, thanks!
[23:15] <EriC^^> calamari: maybe you can autologin root or another user in a tty using systemd and have it in ~/.profile if that doesn't work https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/automatic_login_to_virtual_console
[23:16] <EriC^^> something like if [ "$(tty)" == "/dev/tty1" ]; then <program>; fi
[23:16] <calamari> it didn't work, I will try your suggestion, thanks!
[23:17] <alkisg> calamari: openvt doesn't automatically switch vt unless you also specify -s or something, are you sure it's not running now on vt9?
[23:17] <alkisg> ...vt8
[23:17] <calamari> ah, maybe I was too hasty
[23:17] <calamari> I will verify that
[23:18] <manfred> Helloo
[23:18] <calamari> alkisg: it doesn't show up in ps ax, I guess it exited
[23:19] <alkisg> Its output should still be in the vt it ran
[23:19] <alkisg> Try `openvt -s bash -l &` in rc.local
[23:20] <calamari> hmm, something else may be happening, the mount didn't happen either
[23:20] <calamari> and that needs no terminal
[23:21] <calamari> alkisg: thansk for your help. looks like I need to figure out my rc.local problem then I can resume working on this terminal issue
[23:22] <braderhart> In Ubuntu 16.04 Beta 2 my external display shows as disconnected. Doesn't happen in earlier versions... can someone please help me gather the necessary information for a bug report?
[23:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 braderhart for that
[23:26] <braderhart> bazhang: thanks
[23:32] <cyber> Boa Noite
[23:33] <cyber> alguém tem informações sobre o Back Box
[23:34] <k1l> cyber: backbox is not a support linux in the ubuntu channels. ask in ##linux or the backbox support
[23:35] <bazhang> !backbox
[23:39] <ubuntulgn> after doing 'sudo passwd root' and changing password . I can't log to user root, how to solve it?
[23:42] <Zren> Is there a cron.hourly/ etc in the users home dir that automatically runs all scripts inside?
[23:43] <EriC^^> Zren: no
[23:43] <EriC^^> cron for users is in /var/spool
[23:46] <Jordan_U> .
[23:47] <Jordan_U> !noroot | ubuntulgn
[23:49] <\9> ubuntulgn: don't set a root password, you're better off using sudo
[23:49] <\9> you can use 'sudo su' if you need an actual root shell
[23:50] <wodim> sudo -i
[23:53] <whitebeard> hello
[23:53] <whitebeard> Is anyone there ?
[23:53] <whitebeard> hello ?
[23:54] <seeit> no, no one is home
[23:54] <whitebeard> Right , so you are here
[23:54] <whitebeard> EHhhm Iam new On Backbox , I want to learn this distribution
[23:55] <seeit> I maybe, was around
[23:55] <whitebeard> how can do some tests
[23:55] <whitebeard> ?
[23:57] <whitebeard> i tried to make a test , but nothing is working v_v
[23:57] <whitebeard> Anyone for help ?
[23:57] <bazhang> whitebeard, backbox support i s not here
[23:58] <bazhang> !backbox | whitebeard
[23:59] <whitebeard> OKay i will try
[23:59] <whitebeard> thanks for your reply !
[23:59] <newmember> uuugh, I cant get ubuntu 15.x to start on a HS22 blade
[23:59] <newmember> when it goes to boot, the screen is just black